View Full Version : SH22 is crap
haydes55
25th April 2014, 20:59
I avoided SH22 between tuakau and raglan all summer because it was pretty much a river the entire time it was that melted! Now it's a bit cooler, I decided to have a little fang up SH22. There was a sheep on the road..... The same place where I have encountered sheep on 3 other occasions (so I think the sheep or the farmer need a bullet). Then there were 3 separate sections on road of a couple hundred meter lengths that looked like mint road, but had a dusting of gravel over it, I found out it was covered in gravel about the time both wheels were sliding towards the ditch. Ass puckering over, what used to be small bumps, are now massive hills in the middle of the lane.
At least the one jogger I saw had a nice ass. I'm going Te Kauwhata way north from now on, that road is a fucking joke.
DamianW
25th April 2014, 22:35
Hmm, and I was thinking about heading down to Raglan on the 22 this weekend too.
I did a few good runs on it last year without any hazards but maybe I was just lucky.
Thanks for the heads-up.
tigertim20
26th April 2014, 00:37
so I think the sheep or the farmer need a bullet .
Id shoot the sheep - will probably taste better than a tough old farmer.
dinosaur
26th April 2014, 03:37
You could wrap yourself up in bubble wrap and cotton wool, stick to all the main roads, only ride on days when the temperature is not too hot that it melts tar and not wet or cold enough to be slippery ...... Actually I'd avoid roads with traffic on them as well: they can be awfully unpredictable and such a hazard.
One of my favourite rides is Kawhia Harbour, because its nearly always a mess of unmarked road works, loose crap on the road, shiny bits, wet bits, pot holes in unexpected places and the odd tourist coming at you in the middle of the road, the odd bit of diesel or oil dropped here and there ..... You just never know what you'll get
It teaches you how to ride and expect and cope with the unexpected
And that can be a lesson that will teach you how to ride safe - you just never know what's coming at you on even the best of roads
Just my view
unstuck
26th April 2014, 06:43
There was a sheep on the road..... The same place where I have encountered sheep on 3 other occasions (so I think the sheep or the farmer need a bullet).
Your the muppet that needs a bullet, any decent bloke would of gone and knocked on the farmers door and made him aware of his stock wandering. You sound like a whiney little boy today. Disappointed.:facepalm:
haydes55
26th April 2014, 09:56
Your the muppet that needs a bullet, any decent bloke would of gone and knocked on the farmers door and made him aware of his stock wandering. You sound like a whiney little boy today. Disappointed.:facepalm:
I have done that twice. But it was apparently the neighbours sheep (no idea) but he went and told the neighbour. The second time no one was home so I rang *555. The third and 4th times I've just given up. The sheep looks feral, like it's been wondering the road for months.
slofox
26th April 2014, 11:35
I rode various parts of SH22 this summer without finding anything untoward. Road was in pretty good condition and no loose stock - although I have met plenty at other times.
Perhaps I was riding at the times you were avoiding.
At any time, I treat that road with a mix of respect and suspicion. You never know what's 'round the corner.
Gremlin
26th April 2014, 12:23
I ran from Raglan up to Mercer on Easter Monday, and couldn't help but think the Waikato region needs to look at itself, when it keeps asking why there are so many crashes.
Two sections of new seal, unswept, unmarked. Multiple pieces broken up, unmarked. Sections that looked more like a patchwork quilt, and while I actually enjoyed the bumps (long travel suspension means I love that stuff) there was one piece that was quite gnarly. That said, SH22 has always been known as the goat track, and isn't often "in great nick". You just ride the road you're presented with, it ain't a race track.
The only thing that really pissed me off, was an older Ducati (MH sign thing on the side?) that almost tried to finish off my trip early (after I'd done more than 2000km during the preceding 5 days). Coming into a tight 35 left hander, I'm roughly middle of lane, and oncoming (right for him) his fucken wheels are in my lane, let alone his head which was close enough... fucken idiot.
SPman
26th April 2014, 12:33
You mean to say, it's got worse in the last 8 yrs.........:killingme
haydes55
26th April 2014, 12:57
You mean to say, it's got worse in the last 8 yrs.........:killingme
Yup, I used to go between pukekohe and Hamilton every couple of weekends down SH22. And yea there always were some dodgy patches. But it seems that lately, every single section of the road is just utter crap. They have road works in various places, replacing seal etc. That just make the road worse and worse. They almost would be better off ripping it up and leaving it entirely gravel.
slofox
26th April 2014, 14:36
They almost would be better off ripping it up and leaving it entirely gravel.
Or they could resurface it all with asphaltic concrete...:devil2: :whistle:
MotoKuzzi
26th April 2014, 14:52
I'm a regular rider on that road too and it's definitely worse this year, more vertical drops in the seal and a heap of loose gravel in unexpected places, pays to treat it with respect.
swbarnett
27th April 2014, 15:12
I just got back from a run down H22 and I'd have to agree with both sides. There are three sections of fresh seal with no signs and a lot of drops and tar snakes around the Nikau caves turnoff. Overall though I'd say it's still a good ride if you're not a Rossi wannabe. As has been said, ride to the conditions. If you see anything that looks like it might be new seal treat it with the utmost respect and you can't go wrong.
skinman
27th April 2014, 18:28
notice the green srips are beginning to make an appearance too, must be winter
Eddieb
29th April 2014, 18:09
You need the right tool for the job, something with knobbly wheels
rocketman1
1st May 2014, 20:23
I have not been up there for a few months, but previously have ridden often up to Nikau café and up to Port Waikato.
What I can tell you irrespective of variable road conditions, is that there is a lot of livestock on the road,
On separate occasions:
My riding buddie hit a bunch turkeys, killed one but the farmer grapped it before we could.
I rode through a bunch of goats, now they run every where, if their on the left they go right, and vice versa.
I was confronted by a horse running towards me up the road, I just stopped and let it go past.
I also met a longhorn bull standing in the middle of the road, this huge lump of meat would not move.
Rabbits and opposums are fairly rare to see.
I have only seen a few sheep normally they stay on the side of the road.
If you ride this highway and up to port Waikato expect to meet some critters.
ie slow down.
dinosaur
2nd May 2014, 02:17
I ran from Raglan up to Mercer on Easter Monday, and couldn't help but think the Waikato region needs to look at itself, when it keeps asking why there are so many crashes.
Yeah, but most accidents have been on the main highways! And not many locals; they're normally JAFFAS coming down this way for a ride on our awesome roads
tri boy
2nd May 2014, 19:05
Ride to the conditions
ride to the con
ride to th
.........................
Waihou Thumper
3rd May 2014, 05:17
I ran from Raglan up to Mercer on Easter Monday, and couldn't help but think the Waikato region needs to look at itself, when it keeps asking why there are so many crashes.
Are the fatalities people from the Waikato or the causes from the roads in the Waikato, huh?
I think you will find that the statistics show people from all over the region including your constituents from north of the Bombays contributing....
Maybe some need to take it easy and ride to the conditions instead of treating the likes of Shwy22 and the Coro loop like race tracks! because they can't get over 30 kph on Auckland roads! and feel the need to over use their right wrist....:(
Gremlin
3rd May 2014, 08:11
Are the fatalities people from the Waikato or the causes from the roads in the Waikato, huh?
I think you will find that the statistics show people from all over the region including your constituents from north of the Bombays contributing....
Maybe some need to take it easy and ride to the conditions instead of treating the likes of Shwy22 and the Coro loop like race tracks! because they can't get over 30 kph on Auckland roads! and feel the need to over use their right wrist....:(
It's actually irrelevant where the people come from, the crashes occur in the Waikato. Of course there are multiple reasons why someone might crash, I'm simply observing the roads are in poor condition, and that can contribute to incidents.
Completely agree that you don't treat any road like a race track.
insomnia01
3rd May 2014, 09:35
I'm simply observing the roads are in poor condition, and that can contribute to incidents.
I've noticed over the years that in the Waikato it always seems to be the same roads that are ripped up requiring new seal :oi-grr: thank god it dont happen in the SOUTH WAIKATO much :dodge:
unstuck
3rd May 2014, 09:43
I've noticed over the years that in the Waikato it always seems to be the same roads that are ripped up requiring new seal :oi-grr: thank god it dont happen in the SOUTH WAIKATO much :dodge:
Just wait, the cancer that is Auckland will spread throughout the whole of the North Island, then your roads will be fucked too.:wait:
tri boy
3rd May 2014, 11:09
Tanker trucks and stock trucks are heavy users of 22.
Rural area, go figure.
Include difficulte ground to prep a road surface on, and 22 starts looking more like
a rural road to be cautious on, 9loose stock etc) than ever before.
It never was a suitable scratchers road, (limited run off etc), and hopefully the weekend warriors and squids
will realise soon, and head back into town to check themselves out in the shop windows as they ride past.:love:
At least the one jogger I saw had a nice ass.
Well, with the jogging he probably keeps himself in good shape . . .
Tanker trucks and stock trucks are heavy users of 22.
Rural area, go figure.
Te Akau transport...based in, Te Akau. Most of these roads used to be gravel, and were basically sealed in a couple of days - clean them up, roll them flat and seal. They can't make too use...and sealing a road makes more traffic.
When I lived on Waiheke Island most of the roads were loose metal, and I often walked to work over Seaview Rd....3km. I wouldn't see a single car most days until I got to the intersection at the main road. Waiheke became part of Auckland and sealing of roads began in earnest. After Seaview Rd was sealed I stopped walking to work - it was a narrow road and now I would come across at least half a dozen or more cars on my way to or from work....and half, or all of those cars would stop and offer me a lift.
trustme
3rd May 2014, 17:04
Was not so long ago that parts of SH22 were gravel. They seal the whole thing & you girls still bitch.
Stick to the bloody motorway
trustme
3rd May 2014, 17:14
It's actually irrelevant where the people come from, the crashes occur in the Waikato. Of course there are multiple reasons why someone might crash, I'm simply observing the roads are in poor condition, and that can contribute to incidents.
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It's called demographics , The greatest concentration of NZ's population is in the triangle Ak, The Tron, Tauranga, had a run of fine weather in the weekends so a high number of riders on the road in that area. The weather goes south , the Sunday Softies park up , the statistical blip returns to normal.
swbarnett
4th May 2014, 11:21
I've noticed over the years that in the Waikato it always seems to be the same roads that are ripped up requiring new seal :oi-grr:
I think the reason that H22 (note people, no S) needs continual maintenance is that a lot of it is on a narrow ridge and is subject to subsidence (hence all the elevation changes and tar snakes).
Voltaire
4th May 2014, 12:07
Lets all write to the Govt and ask for the rego and tax on petrol to increase so the roads can be better :rolleyes:
insomnia01
5th May 2014, 09:57
Just wait, the cancer that is Auckland will spread throughout the whole of the North Island, then your roads will be fucked too.:wait:
Nah !! doubt very much they will move this far down the Waikato, there's no cafes to feed them :no:
Voltaire
5th May 2014, 12:05
Nah !! doubt very much they will move this far down the Waikato, there's no cafes to feed them :no:
Dunno, thanks to the Coffee Finder App, us Jaffas can now go over the Bombays :rolleyes:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brennasoft.findastarbucks&hl=en
insomnia01
5th May 2014, 19:41
Dunno, thanks to the Coffee Finder App, us Jaffas can now go over the Bombays :rolleyes:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.brennasoft.findastarbucks&hl=en
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