Poll- Torque or Biker Boyz

[Lord Pac]

For those that have seen these two movies- Which would you say had your undivided attention?

Cheers

Lol- thanks for the 3rd option- forgot that!

[wkid_one]

I have seen the making of Torque - and fuck the CG looks shit....gr8 for those that though the MI2 stoppy was possible.....but generally 'arcade style' stunts

[matthewt]

but generally 'arcade style' stunts

Well it was probably aimed at the "Playstation" generation and not actual bikers.

I liked it in MI2 when the tires changed from roads to knobblys and back again all over the place.

[Motoracer]

One thing that pisses me off over and over again when they make racing simulation games or bike movies is the the lack of attention to detail!!! Why the F would they go through all the trouble and not do it right? I simply can't understand it. Maybe its the perfectionist me talking...

[wkid_one]

Well it was probably aimed at the "Playstation" generation and not actual bikers.

I liked it in MI2 when the tires changed from roads to knobblys and back again all over the place.
EXACTLY!!!

Or how you sit down to watch Matrix and feel like you should be watching the movie holding an X Box Controller!!

Torque looks exactly like that - impossible stunts, ridiculously unsafe stunts at that. As for the whole back flip, kick the chick off the bike stunt - well come on!

Why do they waste their money producing movies that are like watching video games - with a plot that describing as unsubstantial is being kind, stunts that involve more computer power than mechanical power, character depth exceeded by comic book characters???

Makes no sense to me.......but hey, I suppose I am of the generation that stupidly appreciates a good story line, real action sequences, real actors/actresses, value for money and a lasting experience. Silly me.

[Hitcher]

Anything that keeps teenage boys away from porn can't be a bad thing...
:sleep:

[k14]

I voted for Torque cause i dont think it is possible to get worse than Biker Boyz. Although i could be wrong :shifty:

[750Y]

perhaps we should make our own movie? lol.

[Big Dog]

EXACTLY!!!

Or how you sit down to watch Matrix and feel like you should be watching the movie holding an X Box Controller!!

Kinda the point! If you ever get to see the directors notes the whole point was to make the impossible parts "look" cgi to add to the sense of the matrix bing computer generated fiction. :rolleyes:

I haven't seen either but want to see both, maybe its the pragmatist in me but in action flicks I look for a little unreality. If they only showed the credible it would not be entertainment so much as the evening news with the plays of the week thrown in. :sneaky2:

[wkid_one]

Anything that keeps teenage boys away from porn can't be a bad thing...
:sleep:
Blasphemy - copious amounts of porn made me the person I am today and I will say no more

[Big Dog]

Blasphemy - copious amounts of porn made me the person I am today and I will say no more So your against teenage porn abuse then?
:lol:

[Indiana_Jones]

I've always wanted to be in a great escape re-make and I wanted to play Cpt. Hilts (Steve McQueen) Of course you know all about him :2thumbsup

*also I an't seen Biker boyz, my lil pic is the only moving one i could find :D*

-Indy

[Nouseforaname]

Well i just came back from watching Torque at the movies. My O My. Martin Henderson and the blonde chick ( forgot her name already ) were there, they gave a lil intro and did a few Q&A's with the crowd. Man that chick is smokin, she looks ok in the movie, but in real life :2thumbsup.

With the movie, i thought i was watching a playstation game.

My opinion of the movie, save ya money and use it for gas instead.

[Indiana_Jones]

lol Come on it wasn't that bad, what were you expecting? Ben Hur on motorcycles. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, the stupid parts were the train and jet bike bit :eek:

-Indy

[Lord Pac]

In the end its all entertainment, good or bad!

[Nouseforaname]

O cant forget the girls doing standstill wheelies while using there front wheels to kung-fu kick each other :brick:

The only redeeming feature of the movie was the fact that they got jesse james and a few of his west coast choppers in there :cool:

[Marmoot]

Anyway, I miss the whole idea of what's so bad of Torque being aimed at Playstation generation. (err.....so what's so bad about it?)

I mean, if you want realistic bike action, you can get it from racing vids (motogp? superbike? etc). If you want total stunts, there are more than 1000gigabytes of vids of those yankees in the internet for free download. Right? So, a vids for playstation games I consider to be filling in the gaps :)

I mean: great! :) A Playstation Movie! :)

Euh.....I think I'd better shut up now....

[wkid_one]

In the end its all entertainment, good or bad!
Ummm - for something to be entertaining - by its very definition doesn't it have to be enjoyable?

[Marmoot]

But of course free-will, free-speech, open-mind and different-taste will put people into different boxes regarding enjoyment, wouldn't it? :D

[Big Dog]

Well having finnally seen both....
Biker Boyz was a better story / production.
Torque was more entertaining.

compared with mainstream movies they are both shite but they are not mainstream movies, and if we do not support them they will stop making the genre. On the other hand if we take them for what they are and support them there will be more. If they become bankable then they will start making them with bigger budgets and better scripts. I bet there are hundreds of excellent scripts out there that require fast powerful bikes. But no-one bank rolls anything on that level unless there is a guaranteed return.

[DEATH_INC.]

We went along to see torque knowing that it would be heaps of cg crap, and really enjoyed it,it was one of the funniest movies I've seen in a while.
Just don't expect a serious flick all the time and you may find some entertainment in these things.
And anything that puts bikes in front of the general public (that isn't the news promoting how many of us get killed,how dangerous we are,etc)in a positive light can't be all that bad.....

[Drunken Monkey]

I have Judgement Day 2 on DVD, now that's a kick arse sportbike vid. No CGI. No blue screens. Just real stunts.
Maybe I should pickup a projector and setup a screening w/ beers sometime...

[wkid_one]

And anything that puts bikes in front of the general public (that isn't the news promoting how many of us get killed,how dangerous we are,etc)in a positive light can't be all that bad.....
Think about it before you say - no one was killed so it was positive?? Not dangerous?? Look at the moves in the movie.......yeah - REAL SAFE RIDING THAT WAS.:no::no::no:

Having seen the movie - the stunting etc could be seen to do more harm to the average biking stereotype than good. Whilst no one was killed - it hardly represented safe and appropriate street riding.

This movie did as much for biking as Fast and the Furious did to boy racing!

I don't think it was a 'positive light' as you say........try the moves in the movie on the road and then explain your way out of it in court? The movie most likely did more to reinforce to non-bikers that those riding bikes are nutters with no respect for other road users, than have any positive result. All it did was cement stereotypes!

Plus - I would guess that 99.99% of the people who went to see the movie were ALREADY IN TO BIKING - therefore the exposure to the 'general public' was very limited anyway

[PeteThePom]

Why is it that as bikers we dont seem to be allowed to have fun because we are too worried about what joe public thinks of us?


I haven't seen either of these films but regardless of that they ARE JUST FILMS!
They are not a political or social statement and believe it or not the cinema going public know this, no really they do, they have brains too you know?

They are far more likely to have their stereotypical view of bikers reinforced by some prat carving them up on his bike.

I spent over 10 years heavily involved in MAG(Motorcyle Action Group) in the UK and yes we did a lot and brought bikers rights into the political arena and made them sit up and take notice and after the animal rights movement the bikers rights lobby groups became one of the most respected because we comported ourselves professionally (not blowing things up probably helped as well)BUT I did not lose sight of the fact that I was a biker first and foremost and thats what I enjoyed the most and I didn't give a toss what joe public thought of bikers or me as long as I could go on doing that which I love.

It's very easy to get drawn into the mindset that says everthing we do reflects on bikers, no it does not, we are not the centre of everyone elses world, ordinary people do not have discussion groups about the 'biker threat' they are more concerned with their lives and what that consists of by and large is how much money they have, where they live, who their friends are and how much money they owe, bikers are just a sideline that they are aware of in a detached way be it' Wish I rode a bike' or 'I'm not letting that biker past' or complete indifference. To anyone who thinks we are the centre of attebtion I say this 'Get over yourselves and give your ego a rest and just go and ride your damn bike' after all, isn't that why we are all here?

[madandy]

:yeah: agree with that, Pete

[Coldkiwi]

on ya pete

[wkid_one]

Why is it that as bikers we dont seem to be allowed to have fun because we are too worried about what joe public thinks of us?


I haven't seen either of these films but regardless of that they ARE JUST FILMS!
They are not a political or social statement and believe it or not the cinema going public know this, no really they do, they have brains too you know?

They are far more likely to have their stereotypical view of bikers reinforced by some prat carving them up on his bike.

I spent over 10 years heavily involved in MAG(Motorcyle Action Group) in the UK and yes we did a lot and brought bikers rights into the political arena and made them sit up and take notice and after the animal rights movement the bikers rights lobby groups became one of the most respected because we comported ourselves professionally (not blowing things up probably helped as well)BUT I did not lose sight of the fact that I was a biker first and foremost and thats what I enjoyed the most and I didn't give a toss what joe public thought of bikers or me as long as I could go on doing that which I love.

It's very easy to get drawn into the mindset that says everthing we do reflects on bikers, no it does not, we are not the centre of everyone elses world, ordinary people do not have discussion groups about the 'biker threat' they are more concerned with their lives and what that consists of by and large is how much money they have, where they live, who their friends are and how much money they owe, bikers are just a sideline that they are aware of in a detached way be it' Wish I rode a bike' or 'I'm not letting that biker past' or complete indifference. To anyone who thinks we are the centre of attebtion I say this 'Get over yourselves and give your ego a rest and just go and ride your damn bike' after all, isn't that why we are all here?
Some issues with your logic...Joe Public holds more votes than us, therefore his opinion DOES COUNT....and we should be concerned about it.

This movies does nothing to change the perception of motorcycling, and the only thing in its favour is that it is soooo aimed at bikers - Joe Public won't go see it.

Reinforcing this image also does nothing to support a decreased focus on bikers by the legislating bodies - esp ACC.

Whilst I agree with your comments on the whole - you are neglecting to cater to the lowest denominator

It is interesting how, after both the F&F movies, boy racers got laws passed to prevent all sorts of issues....yet boys have been doing up cars.

Happy Day's didn't have this affect on the Government of the time?? Why, it was portrayed in a family manner.

I ask you a question.....as part of MAG...did the stunting on Torque have any place or need on the road???

There are idiots out there that will go and emulate the stunts featured in the movie.....which will then reflect on the biking community as a whole......

Just food for thought.....roll on increased ACC premiums I say

[Storm]

How about we all just enjoy the movie for a good giggle and ride our bikes safely and respsonsibly in the real world, and thus correct the images that are stereotyped onto us as bikers. Remember, people go to the movies to escape reality for a little while. Case in point, LOTR was a complete fantasy movie with no relavance to everyday life, but millions went and watcged it anyway. The movie screen and real life roads are a whole different kettle of fish

[aff-man]

Torque because of 3 reasones
1- it actually had some decent un-f$@cked with bling bling bikes
2- Bikerboyz tried making it look hard to ride in a straight line and you could tell they wern't really pushing it.
3- A line from torque (probably will get it wrong so forgive me but) "what is it about driving cars that makes you such assholes" hahahahahah replayed that a couple of times

[avgas]

In TRON did they ride honda's
Oh yeh - if you really want to see bikes in the future, get out a MOvie called THX 1138
:laugh: :laugh: :lol: :lol: :p :no:
you'll know what i mean when u see these 'future bikes'

[limmy]

hmm...i feel almost embarrased to say i didn't mind either although Torque was a little rediculous. But like one of the guys said....i don't mind stuff that is a bit over the top in movies. Not every movie has an aim to be a realistic depiction.

[Big Dog]

hmm...i feel almost embarrased to say i didn't mind either although Torque was a little rediculous. But like one of the guys said....i don't mind stuff that is a bit over the top in movies. Not every movie has an aim to be a realistic depiction.
I own both. They are both good if viewed as entertainment.

Biker Boys stands up to multiple viewings better. :wari:

[Pwalo]

They're both shite. But I actually enjoyed watching Torque with my younger son.

Must go and practice my rolling stoppies, and changing my body work really,really, really quickly so that no one notices that my bike is actually a KTM when I'm riding off road.

[**R1**]

Anything that keeps teenage boys away from porn can't be a bad thing...
:sleep:
Whats wrong with PORN???
I love bikes but after seing those movies, porn is for sure the way to go, some good clean lezbo action i say..... :yeah:

[magnum]

both shit,biker boyz was more shit

[White trash]

OK. I just watched Torque for the third time. Look closely and the whole movie is one big piss take of boys in cars! Everywhere!

Like the street signs that when spinning in opposite directions read "cars suck"

Or the "I live my life a quater mile at a time" quote.

Fucken brilliant. Love it.

BikerBoyz has some very cool riding in it, just not enough of it.

[Midnight 82]

For those that have seen these two movies- Which would you say had your undivided attention?

Cheers

Lol- thanks for the 3rd option- forgot that!

Tourqe for me. Bit far fetched but still not to bad ay :yeah:

[Waylander]

The only redeeming feature of the movie was the fact that they got jesse james and a few of his west coast choppers in there :cool:
And yet they blew those up. So we have shyte acting, shyte riding, and lousy CG. Then there is Bikerboys wich has all of the above just geardmore twords the hip hop group.
If some others on here like them more power to them, but I have seen them both once and that was enough.

[White trash]

And yet they blew those up. So we have shyte acting, shyte riding, and lousy CG. Then there is Bikerboys wich has all of the above just geardmore twords the hip hop group.
If some others on here like them more power to them, but I have seen them both once and that was enough.

The thing that I particulary loved about Torque was the hard arsed bikie/bad dude riding a Road Warrior!

[Waylander]

The thing that I particulary loved about Torque was the hard arsed bikie/bad dude riding a Road Warrior!
Yea till you figure out that he was the same actor that played the guy that nearly got his arm torn off in the first fast and the furious. Best movie I have seen that guy in was the transporter where he played the wallstreet type bad guy.
(edit) And he could have done without the mullet.

[gav]

Havent seen Torque yet, heard it was so bad I'm waiting for it to appear on Sky, next month I think. Biker boys was a shocker, if you compare it to Fast and The Furious, thought the car one was real good. BB was just so lame. I'm waiting for this to hit the big screen, wonder if we'll get it here?
http://www.fastermovie.com/

[inlinefour]

Might as well not bothered. Hopefully thry'll put dickheads off motorcycling...

[MiXeR]

Hey Paco:
You've left out:

4. Have seen neither, I don't have a DVD player on my RT.

[Pixie]

EXACTLY!!!

Or how you sit down to watch Matrix and feel like you should be watching the movie holding an X Box Controller!!

Torque looks exactly like that - impossible stunts, ridiculously unsafe stunts at that. As for the whole back flip, kick the chick off the bike stunt - well come on!

Why do they waste their money producing movies that are like watching video games - with a plot that describing as unsubstantial is being kind, stunts that involve more computer power than mechanical power, character depth exceeded by comic book characters???

Makes no sense to me.......but hey, I suppose I am of the generation that stupidly appreciates a good story line, real action sequences, real actors/actresses, value for money and a lasting experience. Silly me.
This all stems from Hollyweirds obscession with sfx.Why write a good screen play when you can make something explode.It's gotten to the point that the ignorant public think that what they see is real,as is evidenced by the comments you get from bystanders at car accidents: " we had to run in case the car exploded"
The Simpsons never fail to take advantage of an opportunity to take the piss out of this,they have had shopping trollies,rubbish bins,kids trollies and a milk tanker explode. :rofl:

[Waylander]

The Simpsons never fail to take advantage of an opportunity to take the piss out of this,they have had shopping trollies,rubbish bins,kids trollies and a milk tanker explode. :rofl:
Tonights "Futurama" had a slinky explode.:rofl:

[Big Dave]

I thought they were both complete.....

[inlinefour]

I thought they were both complete.....

and they could not ride bikes for shit :motu:

[Indiana_Jones]

Both films combined are nothing to McQueen's bike chase in 'The Great Escape'

But out of the two, Torque is better. It's a popcorn flick and doesn't take itself seriously, unlike biker boyz, which is just gay cause it has a Z in it lol :rofl:

-Indy

[froggyfrenchman]

amagine makin the KBer movie.. alot of people in this site would really do some amazing stunts 2 b in a movie and out do ur mates...

Including me!!!! refer to http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=1669 :Punk: :devil2: