California superbike school November Schools limited spots left

[neil_cb125t]

Wanna ride safer, or race faster ........ Here’s the deal: I don’t know everything there is to know about riding, no one can claim they do because our understanding of the sport is still evolving. At the Superbike School we are certain that what we do works and I back that up with a genuine guarantee of improvement. . —Keith Code quote from the CSS USA website.


Black Crow promotions are running 2 days of Schools at Taupo Motorsports park on Monday the 10th and Tuesday 11th of November. These two days are booking up fast!

With 6 months to go there are only 15 spots left on Monday, and just over 30 left on the Tuesday........:gob:

For information on the school, the levels, the entry requirements etc jump onto http://www.californiasuperbikeschool.co.nz/ or ask away and ill happily answer the questions.

[angle]

If the spots are filling up so fast why is there a need to advertise? What's the catch?

[neil_cb125t]

If the spots are filling up so fast why is there a need to advertise? What's the catch?

hahaha funny old thing we haven't advertised for the schools in November at all!! unfortunately I get heaps of people trying to book around a month out........we typically are full 3 months out.

No catches, catching or cats at all;)

[wynw]

Im keen, registered online but havnt heard anything. Is it possible to pay a deposit and rest on the day or pay it off?

[sil3nt]

Why is it not run more often?

[ckai]

Why is it not run more often?

I may be completely wrong but I'd say it'll probably come down to expenses and/or track bookings. I can't imagine they'd be cheap to run.

[Grubber]

Level 4 all booked.
Making a long weekend of it so should be awesome.
Been about a year since i did Level 3 so looking forward to this.:headbang:

[neil_cb125t]

Im keen, registered online but havnt heard anything. Is it possible to pay a deposit and rest on the day or pay it off?

Good good - yep registering is the first step. Damian is the main man to talk to for this sort of thing...the total payment is required quite a bit before the actual day. This is because the days fill up so early. Basically those who have paid are locked in. Those who have not paid will be contacted some time before the school to chase up/confirm, we can only hold un paid spots for so long...... every day thus far has had people turning up on the day just incase someone doesn't arrive!!

Damian is the main man for this types of deals his email is damian@blackcrow.co.nz

[wynw]

Thanks for that, have already booked the time off work.:scooter:

[neil_cb125t]

Why is it not run more often?

Really keen to make this happen!! The bottom line is we are not a CSS franchise, Black Crow is a promotion company that was created by the handful of Kiwi coaches to bring it back to NZ. Every NZ school is actually a Australasian CSS event, we hire the Aussies to come on and put on the School.....so we cover everything at each school, flights, accommodation, insurance, bikes, and it goes on.

The schools have to be full to ensure all costs are covered and can keep coming back - we are very lucky to have Nationwide sponsor us with awesome Pirelli Tyres, Kiwbike insurance help us with cover, not to mention Lee, Ash and Damian using their own motorcycles if needed as coach bikes!

We have tried to keep them "summer-ish seasoned"- do you think punters would be keen on a mid year school......June/july??

[neil_cb125t]

I may be completely wrong but I'd say it'll probably come down to expenses and/or track bookings. I can't imagine they'd be cheap to run.

Yes fella, bit of costs to cover - see my other replies.....also its quite a bit of work to organise the schools, we pretty much need to be totally sorted/orginised for the Nov school.....when we are running the March one!

[neil_cb125t]

Level 4 all booked.
Making a long weekend of it so should be awesome.
Been about a year since i did Level 3 so looking forward to this.:headbang:

level 4, you now know everything......now its time to master it :-) as a level 4 student you will get not 1 but 2 coaches dedicated to work with you to get you learning!

[neil_cb125t]

Thanks for that, have already booked the time off work.:scooter:

Awesome fella that's the spirit! what level fella?

[wynw]

Doing 1 and 2

[neil_cb125t]

Doing 1 and 2

BOOM!! let the addiction begin - Level 1 we will work you out on the bike, recommend hot pools to let the body relax before the next day.....level 2 we will expand your mind.....you will become a NEO rider

[wynw]

yeah, been addicted for years unfortunately. Could be worse though, i could have lots of money and then have to buy all those bikes and bits i like. Done the Playday sth island tour and had an absolute blast.

[ckai]

BOOM!! let the addiction begin - Level 1 we will work you out on the bike, recommend hot pools to let the body relax before the next day.....level 2 we will expand your mind.....you will become a NEO rider

hahaha so totally true. Once you start you can never stop (unless you have to do something stupid like feed the kids).

[SPP]

Reg for L4 again. Something to look forward to through winter. mint.

[Bikemad]

does the bike have to have a current wof and rego?.......or could i bring a track bike?

[Voltaire]

does the bike have to have a current wof and rego?.......or could i bring a track bike?

I've done 2 levels on a track bike.

[Bikemad]

I've done 2 levels on a track bike.

cheers..........might give it a crack then

[neil_cb125t]

yeah, been addicted for years unfortunately. Could be worse though, i could have lots of money and then have to buy all those bikes and bits i like. Done the Playday sth island tour and had an absolute blast.

Nice - im sure you met the team down there then!! look forward to seeing you at Taupo

[neil_cb125t]

Reg for L4 again. Something to look forward to through winter. mint.

WICKED WICKED - even I wish I could do a level 4 as a student!

[neil_cb125t]

hahaha so totally true. Once you start you can never stop (unless you have to do something stupid like feed the kids).

Carbon fibre and titanium parts for my race bike are my kids.......

[neil_cb125t]

cheers..........might give it a crack then

Yep all bikes are checked at tech inspection - basically looking at tires and general bike condition, making sure you have brakes and nothing will fall off. None of the levels require tire warmers - infact they would be a waste of your time. I can explain that one more if you require.

We will make you faster and safer than you have ever been..... that is certain.

[Bikemad]

booked for both days L1 and L2

[neil_cb125t]

booked for both days L1 and L2

Great stuff!! all the info should be on the website but as I said just sing out - my personal email is neil.chappell@ymail.com if that's easier.

[neil_cb125t]

So as i was saying a day or two ago - spaces fill up quickly ..........

Monday 10th November:
Level 4 is SOLD OUT
5 SPOTS REMAINING total for Level 1,2,3


Tuesday 11th November:
Level 2 is SOLD OUT
Level 4 has 1x spot remaining
30x Spaces available for Levels 1 & 3

Get booking people!!!

[marine0089]

Hey all,

For the organisers or anyone who has attended a day at the CSS, I know the website states this training is for anyone/everyone but I was just wondering if the people that do this are mainly those that actually race bikes or more at those who do the odd track day here and there? Any idea of the ratio generally?

I've done a few track days (which cater for all levels) but also a rider training where I was the only one who actually rode to the event and had a street legal bike :facepalm: Felt slightly out of place without a dedicated race bike, tyre warmers etc etc.

Any insight would be great.

Cheers.

[SPP]

Hey all,

For the organisers or anyone who has attended a day at the CSS, I know the website states this training is for anyone/everyone but I was just wondering if the people that do this are mainly those that actually race bikes or more at those who do the odd track day here and there? Any idea of the ratio generally?

I've done a few track days (which cater for all levels) but also a rider training where I was the only one who actually rode to the event and had a street legal bike :facepalm: Felt slightly out of place without a dedicated race bike, tyre warmers etc etc.

Any insight would be great.

Cheers.
CSS isn't like a test day (mostly race bikes). Is a mix of road and track bikes (mostly road bikes like your average organized training/track day) except everyone is doing actual training drills not just fanging around.

Your day to day bike is perfect.

[DamianW]

Hey all,

For the organisers or anyone who has attended a day at the CSS, I know the website states this training is for anyone/everyone but I was just wondering if the people that do this are mainly those that actually race bikes or more at those who do the odd track day here and there? Any idea of the ratio generally?

I've done a few track days (which cater for all levels) but also a rider training where I was the only one who actually rode to the event and had a street legal bike :facepalm: Felt slightly out of place without a dedicated race bike, tyre warmers etc etc.

Any insight would be great.

Cheers.

The UK franchise of CSS have six episodes posted on YouTube that show you first hand what riding drills they teach from level 1 to level 4.

Here's the links to the first couple of episodes:


http://youtu.be/2YIOxOaaVPE

http://youtu.be/RQioNoxK9oM

[neil_cb125t]

Hi there fella,

The school is for everyone and anyone on two wheels - the typical break down of the NZ schools is around a 80/20 split - 80% road bikes 20% track bikes. Im surprised more racers/track day goers DONT try the school as the skills naturally will make a huge difference to them. However as the ratio shows most people who attend our schools are road riders / road bike owners who are after some knowledge and confidence.

Tire warmers are not really required at the school. The training program that's been developed is 100% focussed on learning and guarantees improvement. Best setup to have is a bike with treaded tires - this is what all the coaches have.

Last November my mum attended the school on her Suzuki 650 burgman scooter - loved it.

If you have any questions happy to help - just pm me

Chappy - Australasian CSS coach.






Hey all,

For the organisers or anyone who has attended a day at the CSS, I know the website states this training is for anyone/everyone but I was just wondering if the people that do this are mainly those that actually race bikes or more at those who do the odd track day here and there? Any idea of the ratio generally?

I've done a few track days (which cater for all levels) but also a rider training where I was the only one who actually rode to the event and had a street legal bike :facepalm: Felt slightly out of place without a dedicated race bike, tyre warmers etc etc.

Any insight would be great.

Cheers.

[kiwi cowboy]

Good good - yep registering is the first step. Damian is the main man to talk to for this sort of thing...the total payment is required quite a bit before the actual day. This is because the days fill up so early. Basically those who have paid are locked in. Those who have not paid will be contacted some time before the school to chase up/confirm, we can only hold un paid spots for so long...... every day thus far has had people turning up on the day just incase someone doesn't arrive!!

Damian is the main man for this types of deals his email is damian@blackcrow.co.nz

$525 per day?.
that's 2g for the 4 levels:eek:.

Would love to do the days though.

[marine0089]

Hi there fella,

The school is for everyone and anyone on two wheels - the typical break down of the NZ schools is around a 80/20 split - 80% road bikes 20% track bikes. Im surprised more racers/track day goers DONT try the school as the skills naturally will make a huge difference to them. However as the ratio shows most people who attend our schools are road riders / road bike owners who are after some knowledge and confidence.

Tire warmers are not really required at the school. The training program that's been developed is 100% focussed on learning and guarantees improvement. Best setup to have is a bike with treaded tires - this is what all the coaches have.

Last November my mum attended the school on her Suzuki 650 burgman scooter - loved it.

If you have any questions happy to help - just pm me

Chappy - Australasian CSS coach.

This is exactly the info I was after! Cheers for that neil_cb125t =)

I'm actually booked for levels 1&2 this coming March so was just curious. Will see you then!

[Voltaire]

$525 per day?.
that's 2g for the 4 levels:eek:.

Would love to do the days though.

I did it over a couple of years to get into a bit of classic racing, The CSS saved me a lot of learning by mistake, learning off others mistakes, things you would never think of.

You don't even need a fast bike, I used a mix of a Triumph Thruxton, a R90 BMW track bike and when that got a flat tyre a stock std 1976 BMW 900 :2thumbsup.

For road use its good as you learn to anticipate the corners, braking techniques, bike dynamics etc. Good mix of track and class time.

I could do with a refresh :niceone:

[kiwi cowboy]

I did it over a couple of years to get into a bit of classic racing, The CSS saved me a lot of learning by mistake, learning off others mistakes, things you would never think of.

You don't even need a fast bike, I used a mix of a Triumph Thruxton, a R90 BMW track bike and when that got a flat tyre a stock std 1976 BMW 900 :2thumbsup.

For road use its good as you learn to anticipate the corners, braking techniques, bike dynamics etc. Good mix of track and class time.

I could do with a refresh :niceone:

Yer the price is ok really but my problem is the dates being so far out from when you have to book and with my work I may not get the time off when it comes to that date so I would lose my money if I couldn't attend.

[neil_cb125t]

$525 per day?.
that's 2g for the 4 levels:eek:.

Would love to do the days though.
Yeah its steep....I know, all coaches have to go through the levels as a student. I raced competitively for 5 years, won 3 classes at club level then did level 1 and by lunch time had learnt more about riding than the 5 years of racing.......

Levels 1-3 contain the instruction phases. Level 4 is 100% catered to the students improvement and is driven by them, they have 2 coaches, one on track and one off track just for them to work on what ever the student wants. Also level 4 students get more track sessions to hone their skills.

The levels in NZ are the cheapest globally, have a quick look online.......in the US the 2 day camps are $2100 US........!!!!

There is a total of 5 NZ based coaches, 4 of us got together to bring it back to NZ - we are technically Aussie based coaches but started the Blackcrow company up to promote an Aussie school day......... in NZ. We run them literally for the love of having it back in nz. We are bringing the school to Ruapuna in April 15 - come along if you can even for only 1 level.

How much does you average crash cost you - we can help you save thousands :-)

[neil_cb125t]

This is exactly the info I was after! Cheers for that neil_cb125t =)

I'm actually booked for levels 1&2 this coming March so was just curious. Will see you then!

Awesome man! you will have a blast and you will improve - guaranteed!

[kiwi cowboy]

Yeah its steep....I know, all coaches have to go through the levels as a student. I raced competitively for 5 years, won 3 classes at club level then did level 1 and by lunch time had learnt more about riding than the 5 years of racing.......

Levels 1-3 contain the instruction phases. Level 4 is 100% catered to the students improvement and is driven by them, they have 2 coaches, one on track and one off track just for them to work on what ever the student wants. Also level 4 students get more track sessions to hone their skills.

The levels in NZ are the cheapest globally, have a quick look online.......in the US the 2 day camps are $2100 US........!!!!

There is a total of 5 NZ based coaches, 4 of us got together to bring it back to NZ - we are technically Aussie based coaches but started the Blackcrow company up to promote an Aussie school day......... in NZ. We run them literally for the love of having it back in nz. We are bringing the school to Ruapuna in April 15 - come along if you can even for only 1 level.

How much does you average crash cost you - we can help you save thousands :-)

As I stated in a post after the one you quoted I cant commit to that far out with my job as im likely to be busy and not make it resulting in mucking you guys around and losing my money paid.

The cost is steep but would be value and wasn't implying anything.

[neil_cb125t]

I hear that fella, im one of the black crow members and I have only made 1 out of the 4 schools so far - stupid work getting in the way of motorbikes!

Enjoy your riding fella - that's what its all about!


As I stated in a post after the one you quoted I cant commit to that far out with my job as im likely to be busy and not make it resulting in mucking you guys around and losing my money paid.

The cost is steep but would be value and wasn't implying anything.