Ethical question

[North island falcon]

What do you do if you see a bike for sale on TM that you know is being misrepresented?

Is it “anything goes” and buyer beware?

Or, is there a moral obligation to ask a couple of questions that may make potential bidders cautious?

I am not talking about opinions of a bike or its worth, I am talking about a bike that I know, that has been bought by a backdoor dealer, re registered and advertised with 80.000kms less on the clock than it previously had.

In a situation like this it can be a little harder for potential buyers to check the bikes history, so If motorcyclists are a community that need to support each other should I do something or not?

I am undecided myself but am interested in others opinions.

[bogan]

Yeh dob the cunt in. Assuming you are 100% sure it is a deliberate act by that dude, rather than him getting fucked over by someone else.

[TheDemonLord]

a few thoughts -

when you say it is a Bike you know - how well do you know it - well enough that you would stake your house/life on it?
As for the Mileage - has anything been done that would justify such a claim - for example replacing the engine with one that has done lower Kms (although if this where the case, it should be made clear)
The person that is selling this, presumably you have some form of relationship with them in order to know the bike - would you be at a great loss if you lost this?
Is there anyway this could be an honest/careless mistake as opposed to deliberate deception?

Finally - the correct way would be to lodge something to TM helpdesk about this - as opposed to being a dick asking questions (which can always be unanswered by the sellers)

[imdying]

As for the Mileage - has anything been done that would justify such a claim - for example replacing the engine with one that has done lower Kms (although if this where the case, it should be made clear)lol wut? Then it's the same mileage with a (maybe) lower km replacement engine, not lower kms.

[TheDemonLord]

lol wut? Then it's the same mileage with a (maybe) lower km replacement engine, not lower kms.

What I meant was - I have seen people on TM (not that I 100% agree with this practice) advertise the lower KM in the KM section of Trademe and then in the body of the auction mention that the engine was replaced and using that to justify their advert.

[Akzle]

go and burn his house down.

[awa355]

There are enough self righteous PC police around now, trying to run everybody elses lives. :argh: If it doesn't involve you, let the buyer beware.

[Nat]

Definitely tell the seller to pull his head in at least. Dishonest sellers are c*nts.

Especially if there's any safety implications (maybe if it's a crashed bike being put back on the road or poorly repaired etc)

[Big Dog]

Don't want repercussions but want him stopped? Let IRD know he is operating as a dealer. :rofl:


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Erelyes]

Don't want repercussions but want him stopped? Let IRD know he is operating as a dealer. :rofl:

http://www.ird.govt.nz/online-services/service-name/services-a/online-anonymous-info.html

[roy.nz]

Dob him in. Some poor fella will pick that crap up and hate bikes

[awayatc]

There are enough self righteous PC police around now, trying to run everybody elses lives. :argh: If it doesn't involve you, let the buyer beware.


You only care about things that involve you....?

what you gonna do when you grow up?

[sharp2183]

Had the same thing happen with one of my old crashed bikes. Tried to intervene but it still sold for 7 grand (I bought it mint for 8). The buyer sold it on for 3 when he realised how bad it was...

[skippa1]

You have to ask.......?

[buggerit]

Is it a Harley?:shifty:

[Juniper]

Dob him in and then let trademe know. I'd hate to get duped in a sale.

[MVnut]

So if this was one of the 100,000 or so cars with clocked odometers would any of you give a rat's arse???? Tell TM if you feel the need, this is the best way to handle the situation....and it is 'Buyer Beware' however unfortunate that is

[Big Dog]

LMVD would take a dim view but can't do shit unless they are also a dealer. They will however point you to how you can legitimately have the VIR record updated.
This will only help those who help themselves by paying $12-15 depending on vendor to get and actually read the report.


If the vendor becomes aware of this change they can have that removed, for a fee. Mind you who VIRs their own vehicle?

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[BigAl]

Def dob him in and share the TM link here so we can be forewarned.