Have thick winter gloves, fingers still effing cold

[TheDemonLord]

So my Winter Gauntlets aren't keeping my finger tips warm - They are old, so it may be a case a new set will be better, or I was thinking of getting an el cheapo set of wollen gloves and wearing them underneath my gauntlets to give another layer of insulation

Also info for reference - I am all good with cold, so the first person to call me a pansy or suggest heated grips gets a slap

[Stirts]

So my Winter Gauntlets aren't keeping my finger tips warm - They are old, so it may be a case a new set will be better, or I was thinking of getting an el cheapo set of wollen gloves and wearing them underneath my gauntlets to give another layer of insulation

Also info for reference - I am all good with cold, so the first person to call me a pansy or suggest heated grips gets a slap

:psst: Silk is apparently betterer at providing that extra layer of insulation...and will pansy to your pansy-ism. :whistle:

[Big Dog]

Nonsense. Heated grips rock. As do hand guards. If your to soft to fit either you may need to just add layers to your core.
Improving insulation to your core increases blood flow to your extremities.

If your gloves used to cut it but they don't anymore snow seal helps.
As do oxford chill outs if your gloves seem loose because you have worn down your lining.

To recap:
You can cut wind.
You can warm your core.
You can heat your hands.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Banditbandit]

So my Winter Gauntlets aren't keeping my finger tips warm - They are old, so it may be a case a new set will be better, or I was thinking of getting an el cheapo set of wollen gloves and wearing them underneath my gauntlets to give another layer of insulation

Also info for reference - I am all good with cold, so the first person to call me a pansy or suggest heated grips gets a slap



OK Tulip - I won't call you a pansy ..

Harden the fuck up ..

[pritch]

I'm not sure they make gloves for riding in a frost, and I own a couple of pair that are supposed to work in very cold weather.

The thought occurs that keeping the digits out of the moving air might help. My old BMW K100RS used to have the mirrors in front of the grips and that kept wind off the hands. Those bark buster things that the off road riders use could be of assistance. I can't put them in this bike because of the bar-end mirrors but photos I've seen suggest that almost every Versys in Britain has them fitted.

Another random thought; I read a review of a heated vest that said in cold weather the vest stopped the riders hands from getting cold. These days the camping stores sell hand warmers, shove one up yer jumper. I don't know if that'd work but it wouldn't cost much to try. Might get some myself.

[Zarkov]

Get some heated grips you pansy.

[Devil]

Once you have had heated grips you will:
A) wonder why you didn't get them sooner.
and...
B) Want them on every bike you own from that day forward.

Plus, all gloves aren't created equal. Heavy leather ones will transmit more cold through to the core. But of course you need to find the balance between protection and warmth.

Yes cotton or silk glove liners make a difference. Plus they're cheap.

[george formby]

Eventually the foam in the gloves compresses & becomes next to useless as an insulator. But that also makes room for light, thin, thermal gloves underneath. It's been stated a bajillion times but layers work. As stated blocking the cold air from hitting your digits helps a lot.
My toasty finger tip of the day is to warm your gloves & inner gloves before you wear them. If you start cold you will stay cold. Don't leave them in the shed. Same with your socks & boots if you get cold tootsies.
I used to put my gloves on the silencer to warm up until I melted a pair. Bloody things were stuck to it for days.

[ducatilover]

So my Winter Gauntlets aren't keeping my finger tips warm - They are old, so it may be a case a new set will be better, or I was thinking of getting an el cheapo set of wollen gloves and wearing them underneath my gauntlets to give another layer of insulation

Also info for reference - I am all good with cold, so the first person to call me a pansy or suggest heated grips gets a slap

Pansy.


I find putting my hands inside live animals keeps them warm, it may work for you too.

[f2dz]

Heated grips or thicker gloves. Don't believe the salesmen who tell you certain pairs are for winter or not. Read reviews online.

Guy who sold me mine told me they were winter gloves. They're not.

Just be aware that thicker gloves take a little time to wear in so you may want to do so on weekend rides rather than on commutes.

[Big Dog]

Once you have had heated grips you will:
A) wonder why you didn't get them sooner.
and...
B) Want them on every bike you own from that day forward.

Plus, all gloves aren't created equal. Heavy leather ones will transmit more cold through to the core. But of course you need to find the balance between protection and warmth.

Yes cotton or silk glove liners make a difference. Plus they're cheap.

Or you can borrow someone's triumph mid winter and go "what a poof" then try then out of curiosity. Guess that made me poof curious? And now a poof convert.

The dr does not have because then kick start only stator can't cope. But the hand guards are very effective.
The heated grips are wonderful on my "new" bike as they were on the Hayabusa, I will be bolstering that comfort with some wind cut as soon as I can sort out some hand guards.
On longer rides on a naked bike it is a bizarre feeling to have warm palms and fingers but cold knuckles. Or when it is raining an even on a mild setting the gloves start "boiling". Hopefully the wind cut for the hand guards will give my gloves a half a chance at not leaking. They never leaked on faired bikes...


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Gremlin]

Heated grips
Over-mitts
Handguards

Any of them, some sort of combination of them, or, if you're already complaining about the cold then all of them ya poor pansy.

[Motu]

I thought my Spidi winter gloves were worn out too when my hands started to freeze, so got some Dririders with Thinsulate and stuff....and no difference. I've actually worn a Spidi on one hand and Dririder on the other, and frozen fingers on both hands. I don't want heated grips because I hear they don't keep the fingers warm, and I'm also a kronic handlebar changer, I've changed my bars twice this year, and will do again soon, I don't want to be changing grips too. Last year I got some Oxford mits that take their Hot Hands, and they worked well....but then I changed my bars and they don't fit anymore. Handguards and heated gloves are the next move.

Mittens work better than gloves.

[Blackbird]

Heated grips
Over-mitts
Handguards

Any of them, some sort of combination of them, or, if you're already complaining about the cold then all of them ya poor pansy.

+1. I haven't got heated grips on the Street Triple but fitted Acerbis guards which made a bit of difference. However, on really cold days, I just pop on my Rain-off mitts (http://www.rain-off.com/) over the winter gloves and that makes a huge difference. They're also the bees knees for riding in torrential conditions.

[TheDemonLord]

I heart you all (in the most manly and ungay way)






because you have reminded me that I have set of Oxford Bar Muffs somewhere - Now all I need to do is find where I put them and problem shall be solved!

Thanks all

[tippersv]

Get some heated grips you pansy. x2
If heated grips are gay, then I'm Graham Norton!

[Stirts]

I have set of Oxford Bar Muffs somewhere - Now all I need to do is find where I put them and problem shall be solved!

Are they tight or floppy, and roast beef colored? Are they furry? Do they smell fishy or sweaty?

[Motu]

Age comes into it too - I was talking to a friend who was riding bikes when I was a boy the other day, and I was saying it's getting too cold for me to ride to work these mornings, and we were reminiscing about how we used to ride to work on frosty mornings with no gloves, no helmet, no goggles and just a light jacket. I'd been riding every day for nearly a decade before I got some winter gloves - and I only got them because I found them lying in the middle of the road...and still have my fur lined gauntlets. After 45 years on the road, I'm getting to be a bit of a sook.

[The Pastor]

http://fat-bike.com/2012/01/pogies-keeping-the-digits-warm/

these are a thing. They exist for motorbikes (think farmers and atvs/quads).

I got given a pair as a gift from mates travelling in china, they say everyone uses them on all types of bikes in the snow.

I've tried them out, and they were a bit too small to fit my bike. but im sure nz made ones would work.

You'll look like a pratt using them tho.

[GrayWolf]

I heart you all (in the most manly and ungay way)






because you have reminded me that I have set of Oxford Bar Muffs somewhere - Now all I need to do is find where I put them and problem shall be solved!

Thanks all

Bar Muffs? Ya PANSY.... even more 'gay' than heated grips..... :bleh::bleh:

[Banditbandit]

because you have reminded me that I have set of Oxford Bar Muffs somewhere - Now all I need to do is find where I put them and problem shall be solved!

Thanks all

If you put them on, make sure, when you are falling off, to get your hands back out of the muffs so that your hands don't get trapped in there at a very bad time !

[TheDemonLord]

Bar Muffs? Ya PANSY.... even more 'gay' than heated grips..... :bleh::bleh:

Gay maybe, but they are free since I already have them :P

[swbarnett]

Once you have had heated grips you will:
A) wonder why you didn't get them sooner.
and...
B) Want them on every bike you own from that day forward.
I've used the heated grips on my wife's bike and I, quite frankly, find them a bit useless. At full bore all I got was burnt palms and frozen top side.

[swbarnett]

+1. I haven't got heated grips on the Street Triple but fitted Acerbis guards which made a bit of difference. However, on really cold days, I just pop on my Rain-off mitts (http://www.rain-off.com/) over the winter gloves and that makes a huge difference. They're also the bees knees for riding in torrential conditions.
Last winter I wore brand new winter gloves (Rev'it Kelvins), thermal glove liners and rain-offs. Helped a little but by the time I got to work some mornings I'd almost lost feeling in about the first cm or so of most of my fingers. I guess it didn't help that I started in Tuakau at 05:30 heading for the Auckland CBD.

This Winter I've opted to start work later. We'll see how that goes.

[EJK]

Get a car.

[jellywrestler]

Nonsense. Heated grips rock. . reword it to say tie heated grips to a rock and throw them off a bridge. heated jackets are the answer, then you can use on differnt bikes and get your whole body warm, and you r mind thinking clearer in the cold.

[swbarnett]

What I would love is a pair of extreme cold weather gloves (as worn in arctic blizzards) that are thin on the inside so you can still control the bike. Then I'd add heated grips.

[buggerit]

Are they tight or floppy, and roast beef colored? Are they furry? Do they smell fishy or sweaty?

different kind of muff <_<

[Gremlin]

What I would love is a pair of extreme cold weather gloves (as worn in arctic blizzards) that are thin on the inside so you can still control the bike. Then I'd add heated grips.
I've found overmitts to be the best guarantee of stopping water, however, lose a lot of feeling (I've got the Rain Off 1-1-3) and dexterity. I actually find I use summer gloves inside the mitts to make the combo a bit thinner, if I don't need the warmth.

For really cold conditions, you probably can't beat heated gloves, but I've never needed that. Coldest conditions I've ridden in have been about -4 to -5 ambient (wind chill factor guesstimate makes it about -17 as it was hours on open road) and for that, it was thermals, heated vest and jacket (Rukka) for core, usual winter gloves (Revit Kelvin I think), handguards and heated grips. Keeping my core so warm (the vest felt fantastic) negated the need for extreme measures at finger tips and toes (actually you can get heated socks too).

Heated grips can result in a warm palm and cold back of the hand, hand guards make a noticeable difference). Ultimately, thermals are only so good, if your body is able to generate the required heat. Otherwise, you need something active, heated gear, generating the heat for you.

[R650R]

When its cold its cold, barkbusters don't do much, you'll still get cold fingers with them.
Tested my heated Tourmaster leather gloves over Taihape rd and desert road also today. You don't think their very warm till you take them off!
Work very well even when not plugged in.
Got them over heated grips as I'm always covering the brake/clutch so that's two fingers not getting heated etc...
Their not a big name brand but some good reviews online.

[Erelyes]

To recap:
You can cut wind.
You can warm your core.
You can heat your hands.

+1. In that order.

Can cut wind with either barkbuster type things, or the 'rain off' overgloves. Or 'hippo hands' (google)

Once you've done 1) and 2) you may find no need for 3).

[vifferman]

I used to think heated grips were de debil until I bought a bike with them futted. (Yes, futted; I'm a koiwoi). Lived in Chchchch (sound of rattling teeth, commuted on me VF500FFFFFF, even when it was snowing, twice. Only day that caught me out was a crystal clear, fine, cold day, and I thought, "Huh... no frost - how peculiar!" Got a few ms (or is it mmmss?) out onto the road, and discovered it was that sneaky invisible ice, the same colour as the road, and strangely also the concrete, grass, trees.... So I tiptoed a careful U-Turnage, and went back in, and took the Pajero. And a slippy slidey trip to work it was too.)
Anyway, now I have a bike widdem (second set)((heated grips, that is)) I LUFFs it, I do. Luckily, the fairing is cuntingly designed to direct much of the airstram away from the hands at above 75km/h, so it's only at slower speeds on deadly cold D'Auckland daze that they're not so wonderful. But still better than none. Yup.

[FJRider]

Buy a bike that doesn't deflect the air off the fairing ... directly onto your hands/knees.

[Motu]

Get a car.

We are -2 tomorrow, so car it is.

[Oakie]

Once you have had heated grips you will:
A) wonder why you didn't get them sooner.
and...
B) Want them on every bike you own from that day forward.

Plus, all gloves aren't created equal. Heavy leather ones will transmit more cold through to the core. But of course you need to find the balance between protection and warmth.

Yes cotton or silk glove liners make a difference. Plus they're cheap.

I agree with EVERYTHING Devil said. Heated handgrips are the first thing that goes on my bikes. Of course I commute everyday and this morning I think it was -4 degrees so i'm not just a warm weather rider. Being able to feel youer fingertips is a safety thing, not just comfort. Heated handgrips FTW. Now where do I line up for my slap.

[Mike.Gayner]

Buy a bike that doesn't deflect the air off the fairing ... directly onto your hands/knees.

LOL, fairings.

[tri boy]

Pansy.


I find putting my hands inside live animals keeps them warm,

+1
Warm pigs head on each hand.
Keeps the police at bay also.
Plus, makes a great stock, with bugs n road dust adding flavour.










Poof

[swbarnett]

For really cold conditions, you probably can't beat heated gloves, but I've never needed that. Coldest conditions I've ridden in have been about -4 to -5 ambient (wind chill factor guesstimate makes it about -17 as it was hours on open road) and for that, it was thermals, heated vest and jacket (Rukka) for core, usual winter gloves (Revit Kelvin I think), handguards and heated grips. Keeping my core so warm (the vest felt fantastic) negated the need for extreme measures at finger tips and toes
Therein lies my problem. I like a cooler core than is needed to get heat to the extremities. I think you're right, heated gloves may be the answer to allow me to stave off overheating my core.

[AllanB]

Your sig says Gulf Harbour - what did it get down to 8 degrees this morning?

-4 when I left to work this morning, in the car, wearing gloves ........ I need heated seats - the leather was cold on my butt.

[Big Dog]

reword it to say tie heated grips to a rock and throw them off a bridge. heated jackets are the answer, then you can use on differnt bikes and get your whole body warm, and you r mind thinking clearer in the cold.

Never tried a heated vest. Price is still a little prohibitive. Size was also a problem last time I looked. I don't tend to get cold in the core, although this year I finally put in the foil liner in my Technic freeway. Feel a turkey when I peel the shiny foil off at the other end but toasty.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

What I would love is a pair of extreme cold weather gloves (as worn in arctic blizzards) that are thin on the inside so you can still control the bike. Then I'd add heated grips.

An old dude who used to come in to the dairy my dad owned had some leather flying gauntlets. Sheepskin upper, ox outer, thin on the bottom. Awesome feel. Beautifully warm. But you can operate buttons etc. it is as if wearing lightweight summer gloves.

Looks a lot like http://www.aeroleatherclothing.com/product-detail.php?id=184


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

Get a car.

Gosh, and people think having a Naked bike with heated grips is soft.


Edit: I know 8 degrees in Tuakau does not really compare.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[george formby]

Despite the banter it just dawned on me that the info in this thread is quite important.

I suffer from "white finger", dead nerves in my fingers, frozen to death. Also common in soldiers doing extreme winter training so I'm told.
I rode all year round & often did 500 + mile days in below freezing temperatures. Having no feeling whatsoever in my feet & hands was par for the course. In the bitter depths of winter, -20c with wind chill on top, I would get home, lean the bike against the wall & toot the horn so somebody would help me off it & into the house. I couldn't walk.

So yeah, if your commuting & it's freezing, look after your hands. It will bite you in the arse in years to come if you don't.

[nzspokes]

I will be bolstering that comfort with some wind cut as soon as I can sort out some hand guards.


Milk bottle cut in half, ad zip ties. Sorted.

The young folk today, always spending money.....

[george formby]

Milk bottle cut in half, ad zip ties. Sorted.

The young folk today, always spending money.....

Too floppy, 4ltr detergent container. Plenty of room for huuuuuuge gloves, too. Ugly as sin but can you stick smiley faces on them. True story. I dislike spending money due to a short supply of it.

[Berries]

I find putting my hands inside live animals keeps them warm, it may work for you too.
Tried it but after a couple of miles the horse wanted to get off.



As did I strangely enough.

[Big Dog]

Milk bottle cut in half, ad zip ties. Sorted.

The young folk today, always spending money.....

It did occur to me. I resisted the temptation. I want to get laid again some day.


I think $30 is cheap to spend on a bike to do > 24,000 per annum on.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[TheDemonLord]

Your sig says Gulf Harbour - what did it get down to 8 degrees this morning?

-4 when I left to work this morning, in the car, wearing gloves ........ I need heated seats - the leather was cold on my butt.

Its the stretch on SHW1 between silverdale and Oteha valley where it is all frosty and cold that starts it off.

Dunno the tempreture - except my fingers said it was cold

[ducatilover]

Milk bottle cut in half, ad zip ties. Sorted.

The young folk today, always spending money.....

:innocent: At the price of milk these days? Fuck that, I'll cut up petrol cans and sprinkle meth on them, far cheaper

[DMNTD]

Heated grips
Over-mitts
Handguards

Any of them, some sort of combination of them, or, if you're already complaining about the cold then all of them ya poor pansy.

Or add latex gloves for the first layer against the skin. It is the wind that is cold and the latex gloves stop wind chill

[TheDemonLord]

So the Bar Muffs were an Epic fail,

After some deductive reasoning, I think they are the ones designed for Faired bikes, with the mirrors on the fairing, as opposed to my Hornet which is naked with the mirrors on the Handlebars

Looks like I am getting some new winter gloves tomorrow!

[unstuck]

Its the stretch on SHW1 between silverdale and Oteha valley where it is all frosty and cold that starts it off.

Dunno the tempreture - except my fingers said it was cold

Did that road for 17yrs every morning, usually around five or six. Got cold a few times. Never cried about it though. Get a car ya poof, and leave the motorcycling to the real men and women of the world.:motu:

[Moi]

An old dude who used to come in to the dairy my dad owned had some leather flying gauntlets. Sheepskin upper, ox outer, thin on the bottom. Awesome feel. Beautifully warm. But you can operate buttons etc. it is as if wearing lightweight summer gloves.

Last time I was in the Army Surplus shop on K Rd they had something very similar and for a bit less than the 40 quid the English lot are asking...

BTW was 2C when I left home this morning, got to 4C by the time I got to work... end of fingers a bit chilly but rest of me fine... absolutely brilliant day now!

[ducatilover]

Has anyone used a nikwax style prodcut on leather and/or gloves?
My leathers only leak on a proper long trip (after I duct tape the breather holes on the fore-arm) but one set of gloves I have are shit.

Might be worth mentioning my 2010 model Teknic Lightning gloves are really nice to use, comfy, warm and don't seem to fill up with water, bought them on an old stock run out special in 2011 :yes:

[george formby]

So the Bar Muffs were an Epic fail,

After some deductive reasoning, I think they are the ones designed for Faired bikes, with the mirrors on the fairing, as opposed to my Hornet which is naked with the mirrors on the Handlebars

Looks like I am getting some new winter gloves tomorrow!

Ewe need the ones farmers put on their quad bikes.

[Devil]

I've used the heated grips on my wife's bike and I, quite frankly, find them a bit useless. At full bore all I got was burnt palms and frozen top side.

You're broken, Stephen. :P

[george formby]

Has anyone used a nikwax style prodcut on leather and/or gloves?
My leathers only leak on a proper long trip (after I duct tape the breather holes on the fore-arm) but one set of gloves I have are shit.

Might be worth mentioning my 2010 model Teknic Lightning gloves are really nice to use, comfy, warm and don't seem to fill up with water, bought them on an old stock run out special in 2011 :yes:

Yup, Nikwax leather gubbins stuff. Used too put it on my big leather gauntlets. Warm gloves thoroughly so Nikwax melts, don said gloves & take a good couple of finger fulls of spooge, wring hands together like Ebeneezer Scrooge looking at his gold. Pay particular attention to the seams between fingers etc.
Won't necessarily make the gloves waterproof but it does make a big difference. Gloves last really well, too.

[swbarnett]

You're broken, Stephen. :P
Well, that's a given.

The grips probably would've worked fine if it weren't for the lack of insulation on the upper part of the hand. And this was with my rain-offs and winter gloves.

[TheDemonLord]

Update - have gotten myself an Oxford Balaclava and a set of Oxford inner gloves to wear underneath my winter gloves - should keep the chill at bay

[slofox]

I have a pair of Technic "Thunder" winter gloves which do a fine job at keeping the hands warm and dry.

But. Wearing them is kinda like having your hands encased in cushions, them being so much thicker than what I wear the rest of the year. So I tend to use a more mid-weight pair that still leave me able to feel whatever it is I have my hands on. Which can be important at times...(IYKWIM). :blip:

[Swoop]

Thermal liners. Put them on first and then into normal glubs.
They are thin but are very nice.

Either that or a set of Spidi Nordics. Mmmm, toasty warm!

[MarkH]

When it was -2 last week and I rode the 35km to work at 4am I went with new winter gloves with Rain-off over gloves and turned my hot grips up to 70% (I never use 100% because they get painfully hot).
I was still able to feel the cold (no surprise when moving at 110kph through -2 degree air) but it was bearable.

[granstar]

Rode to Brass, stopped an hour , rode home, 9 hour ride all up. Fingers were cold after first half hour and weather wasn't really that bad.
Was wearing my new gloves, highly rated for winter wet and cold Spada Storm, also I had Merino Icebreaker gloves inside as well.

Stopped once at Moa Flat to warm hands on exhaust, but me thinks it is mind over matter as was enjoying the ride and the cold fingies didn't bother me so much, bearable :scratch:

Also noticed toes getting a little cold in my new Gearnes, but as above.

[Big Dog]

I find it is a very different experience on a longer ride. On a longer ride you are having so much fun with the journey you mitigate the discomfort in your head. On a shorter ride you don't truly get cold but it seems more bitter, especially if you are commuting. Several places I have lived further than 30 mins ride. Same gear seems way colder and more bitter going 44 kms to work than 5 degrees colder to Taupo.


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[swbarnett]

but me thinks it is mind over matter
Only up to the point that you start to lose feeling in your fingers.

[Genie]

Or add latex gloves for the first layer against the skin. It is the wind that is cold and the latex gloves stop wind chill

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