Raceevolution.net scammers. Help please?

[cking457]

Hi,

Im from the UK, I bought a carbon airbox for my Ducati 749R of raceevolution.conz / raceevolution.net a few months ago. After a while a member of their staff contacted me to say it is not made anymore. They promised a refund, but as always, all the excuses came out....such as 'We have to wait for our Manager to approve a refund' Now they do not respond to any emails. I bought using paypal, however, very cleverly they set it up as a 'personal payment' and not a 'goods payment'. Therefore can not open a case with paypal.

Does anyone in NZ have any idea or contacts for them. It cost me 444.00 NZD. There is not much I can do as the NZ trading standards complaints says you have to be a NZ resident, which of course Im not.

Really frustrates me how they can take your money and dissapear with it. If this was in the UK, I would certainly track them down, not as easy though thousands miles away!

Anyway, any help or advice would be appreciated. Safe Riding, keep it shiny side up.

[sil3nt]

Have a read of this http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/138048-RaceEvolution-Any-good

[Mike.Gayner]

That sucks - I've entered into countless transactions across the globe with many different companies and have yet to be stung - I'm one of the lucky ones....so far.

FWIW, these guys are not what I'd consider a reputable dealer. I try to buy as much as I can from local sites, and I've never heard of these guys. My guess is they target foreign buyers for the reasons you've discovered.

I would get on the phone with them - stop dealing with emails if possible, as you're going to get the run around.

Here is their Companies Office page:
http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/1919489
The sole director and shareholder is Prudhvi GADDIPATI - not exactly a kiwi sounding name. Try to deal with this person, tell him you've got someone here who will file for a disputes tribunal hearing if he doesn't get your refund ASAP.

Make a post on their Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/RaceEvolution/184586114917821) asking why it's taking so long to process your refund. It's not exactly a huge page (237 likes) but maybe a bit of publicity will help.

[cking457]

Thanks for the info, I have tried calling and when I addressed him by his full name, he hung up. I did write on their facebook page to which they blocked me and removed my posts. It annoys me more that on their facebook they bang on about all the parts they have supplied, etc, etc. Personally I would love to hack his legs of with a peice of sharpened carbon fiber then ram it up his arse.

[Mo NZ]

Have another talk to Paypal. If he is dodgy they wont want him. Explain how he is manipulating the sale of goods to personal payment etc. You did buy goods after all.

[Voltaire]

Thats not good, I'm in Auckland and have never heard of them, but they do have a physical address in New Lynn and are open on Saturdays.
I sent them a message suggesting that it might be a good idea to refund before the whole biker community hears about it.
Low key, but you never know, I find the nice approach often works these days.
Here is the Contact Link.
http://www.raceevolution.co.nz/contact-us/3/contactmap

[jasonu]

Here is their Companies Office page:
http://www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/1919489
The sole director and shareholder is Prudhvi GADDIPATI - not exactly a kiwi sounding name. help.

Isn't he the Governor General...

Good luck getting your cash back mate. I fucking hate rip off artists!

[tigertim20]

hmm, I had been thinking about ordering some stuff from those clowns. I won't be now.
Keep at them, sooner or later it will be less hassle to just refund you if you keep at them.

[Voltaire]

I got a reply to my Email.





Raceevolution Team <parts@raceevolution.net>


3:50 PM (2 hours ago)


to me

Chris you need to stop bad mouthing companies. Your refund has been rpocesaed already.

So there you go Chris, its been rpocesaed:msn-wink:

[cking457]

Many thanks guys, to all of you, as I have woken up this morning and have had a full rufund. Much appreciated.

[Latte]

Good stuff! Sucks for him the damage has been done to his rep.

[geoffm]

THis is why the Internet is a great equalizer. More to the point, Google never forgets, and it will come up in any search in the future and prospective buyers can make their own decision. In my case, it would be a cold day indeed before I bought something of him after this runaround.

[sil3nt]

Good stuff! Sucks for him the damage has been done to his rep.
Sadly I doubt it has done anything. He has been doing this for many years and people buy stuff from him.

[Steve Gauge]

yep your not the first just another piece of shit outfit selling cheap Chinese shit and clipping the ticket , hes still on trademe ffs
some people have no morals
Glad you got your money back I really don't think it would have happened if you had nt posted on here good thinking -:headbang:

[jasonu]

Many thanks guys, to all of you, as I have woken up this morning and have had a full rufund. Much appreciated.

Nice one. Fuck that curry muncher though. He still deserves a punch in the face.

[Mo NZ]

Well networking at its best eh.
I would send an e-mail to paypal about the goods-personal thingi.

The wanker supplier obviously dose care about bad press.
Hence the instant refund.

I don't use the word never very much but I wouldn't trade with him at all.
Remember the name of the company
Raceevolution
Dodgy Fucker

[nzspokes]

Its clear that raceevolution is no good, so if we say raceevolution enough times this thread will be the top search when you look for raceevolution. Turns out raceevolution is not far from me and was going to go see raceevolution about this. Im glad raceevolution paid your money back.

[Mo NZ]

Turns out raceevolution is not far from me and was going to go see raceevolution about this.


Please still drop in to Raceevoultion. Net Scammers Inc When you go ask him about the goods/personal dodgy swop, and any explanation for the uk bloke.

[The Reibz]

This guy is pretty much a ebay reseller. His fairings he sells are most likely ordered from Auctmarts or Divinity motor, both reputiable chinese ebay sellers.

While it is a good idea for people that are aprehensive about dealing directly with China, his execution of it has been horrible. Disapointing to see that even after many years he still hasn't lifted his game.

Personally I would never buy anything from him

[Steve Gauge]

Race evolution sucks donkey balls

[Katman]

His fairings he sells are most likely ordered from Auctmarts or Divinity motor, both reputiable chinese ebay sellers.


Quite aside from the prick's dodgy business ethics, having seen the products first hand, I can vouch for the poor quality of them.

[The Reibz]

Actually I take that back, I have seen the quallity of Divinity fairings and it was almost impossible to tell the difference between OEM.

With his history of buying the absolute cheapest possible products and marking them up exponentially, you can almost bet your life the product you are getting with be first on the "cheapest price" list on ebay. I know the bolts he sells are terrible, cast from the worst possible metal and often spray painted, not anodised. Hes also claiming to be a 100% NZ owned business when all he is really doing is acting as a broker between China and here. He also gets your order shipped directly to you from China, it doesn't go to him first to make sure its the right one, further opening himself up to critisim.

Im all for supporting NZ businesses but this isn't what race evolution is. Its a individual out to make a quick dollar at the expense of the hard working kiwi motorcyclist.

His name is unsafe to yell inside a crouded airport, therefore don't trust him. Fact

[imdying]

Hes also claiming to be a 100% NZ owned business when all he is really doing is acting as a broker between China and here.We have next to no manufacturing base here, you could apply that to most businesses in NZ, Blue Wing Honda for example... all they do is look at the US price for Hondas, double it, and push it out to dealers. No value added.

[The Reibz]

We have next to no manufacturing base here, you could apply that to most businesses in NZ, Blue Wing Honda for example... all they do is look at the US price for Hondas, double it, and push it out to dealers. No value added.

I tend to agree with you.
Im in the market for a boat trailer at the moment and am considering making one. I asked several dealer stands where abouts they get their galvanising done. None of the trailers were even made in NZ, all where brought in from China.

Then the guy had the nuts to tell me building one myself was probably beyond my ability.

I like that we have the right to axe buinesses and services here on Kiwibiker. I am banned from fishing.net.nz for life for bagging a sponsor brand. The old crusty admin even went out of his way to telephone me and threaten me with legal action. I lold

[imdying]

Briford still manufacturer trailers here in Christchurch?

[Robbo]

I tend to agree with you.
Im in the market for a boat trailer at the moment and am considering making one. I asked several dealer stands where abouts they get their galvanising done. None of the trailers were even made in NZ, all where brought in from China.

Then the guy had the nuts to tell me building one myself was probably beyond my ability.

I like that we have the right to axe buinesses and services here on Kiwibiker. I am banned from fishing.net.nz for life for bagging a sponsor brand. The old crusty admin even went out of his way to telephone me and threaten me with legal action. I lold

Have you tried Voyager Boat Trailers, they are in Hamilton and make a quality trailer.

http://www.voyagertrailers.co.nz/

Or if you build your own Perry Metal Protection do galvanising. I have used them in the past.

http://www.perrymetalprotection.co.nz/

I believe they have a branch in Auckland as well.

[BoristheBiter]

I tend to agree with you.
Im in the market for a boat trailer at the moment and am considering making one. I asked several dealer stands where abouts they get their galvanising done. None of the trailers were even made in NZ, all where brought in from China.


I would say try pinto but I don't think they make boat ones.
The Trailer shop does Dunbier from aussie.

[Steve Gauge]

I brought a pinto and am real happy with it (not sure if they do boat ) they are made in Auckland , they have two levels the ones they sell them selves - which I got and the ones they supply mitre 10 mega (average ) noticeable difference , but that's what the market is for mitre10 - bunnings

[george formby]

I tend to agree with you.
Im in the market for a boat trailer at the moment and am considering making one. I asked several dealer stands where abouts they get their galvanising done. None of the trailers were even made in NZ, all where brought in from China.

Then the guy had the nuts to tell me building one myself was probably beyond my ability.

I like that we have the right to axe buinesses and services here on Kiwibiker. I am banned from fishing.net.nz for life for bagging a sponsor brand. The old crusty admin even went out of his way to telephone me and threaten me with legal action. I lold

I met a guy in Whangarei recently who custom makes trailers.
Just sayin.

[ryanmech]

Hi,

Im from the UK, I bought a carbon airbox for my Ducati 749R of raceevolution.conz / raceevolution.net a few months ago. After a while a member of their staff contacted me to say it is not made anymore. They promised a refund, but as always, all the excuses came out....such as 'We have to wait for our Manager to approve a refund' Now they do not respond to any emails. I bought using paypal, however, very cleverly they set it up as a 'personal payment' and not a 'goods payment'. Therefore can not open a case with paypal.

Does anyone in NZ have any idea or contacts for them. It cost me 444.00 NZD. There is not much I can do as the NZ trading standards complaints says you have to be a NZ resident, which of course Im not.

Really frustrates me how they can take your money and dissapear with it. If this was in the UK, I would certainly track them down, not as easy though thousands miles away!

Anyway, any help or advice would be appreciated. Safe Riding, keep it shiny side up.

The good news is that i complained to trademe about raceevolution and they now are not listing parts anymore. They sold me a part that they did not have and could not get manufactured. They are completely untrustworthy.
I requested the particular part and they said they could provide it. Then they sent me a order confirmation for a different part. I told them the confirmation was for the wrong part, then they said that it was all sorted. One month later, they sent me an email that the wrong part arrived and did i want the wrong part? I told them i wanted the correct part, and two weeks later they confirmed that they could not provide the part. They could never provide the part!
THROUGHOUT all of this shite, they did not appologise in any form for fucking me around. I could not believe their arrogance......

Raceevolution are very untrustworthy, and i would not suggest that anyone undertakes any business with them in any form at "trademe" or "ebay" or off their website. It simply is not worth the risk.
Regards
Rhino

[Kornholio]

My mate got a set of fairings from Auctmarts*sp for his 07 CBR1000 and they fit perfect(sorry but the man is no genius and he had no trouble).... stickers and all for well under a grand

[awayatc]

The good news is that i complained to trademe about raceevolution and they now are not listing parts anymore.


He is still listed on Trade me services

http://www.trademe.co.nz/services/trades/automotive/auction-461220438.htm