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LubeyChain
6th June 2014, 03:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XDDuDfXlZU&feature=youtu.be
Here is a show-reel of a project we are developing at university. Doesn't show the prototype as much as we would like because we are still fabricating the case! Everything else works though.
Hope you enjoy.
slofox
6th June 2014, 07:23
Top idea. I'd buy one.
TheDemonLord
6th June 2014, 07:23
Suggested improvements:
Targeting Reticle
Health meter
Armour Meter
Ammo Count
Proximity sensor/Alerting
willytheekid
6th June 2014, 08:05
Pritty cool indeed, well done to you guys:2thumbsup
...I'll pass tho, I already have a speedo & indicator warning light on my dash.
But love the idea and effort, keep up the great work :D
R650R
6th June 2014, 08:39
Please take one for the team and end this project now...
This will only result in being part of an onboard tracking system used to enforce fines and road taxes by authorities...
They've already sucked in the trucking industry with the 'convenience" of electronic road user charges and slipped in defacto 24/7 GPS tracking with it that records every overspeed.
If you want to design something usefull how about some kind of heated helmet visor for antifogging. The shoei and other inserts are fine but once they are cold they will fog in extreme conditions like anything else will.
biketimus_prime
6th June 2014, 10:39
Good stuff guys! Is it a final year project for uni? I want to do something related to bikes for my final year project too as there seems to be a lot more areas for new improvements and ideas compared to cars (I'm a Be Mech student).
How do you plan to get the signals for your HUD from the bike?
PS R650R, that heated element idea would be pretty cool. I might look into it.
LubeyChain
6th June 2014, 12:02
Please take one for the team and end this project now...
This will only result in being part of an onboard tracking system used to enforce fines and road taxes by authorities...
They've already sucked in the trucking industry with the 'convenience" of electronic road user charges and slipped in defacto 24/7 GPS tracking with it that records every overspeed.
If you want to design something usefull how about some kind of heated helmet visor for antifogging. The shoei and other inserts are fine but once they are cold they will fog in extreme conditions like anything else will.
It's a Uni project dude, calm your socks :drool:
The indicators work by tapping into an indicator wire and then sending the signal via RF to the micro controller.
Pound
6th June 2014, 13:57
Lubey cock....
Mushu
6th June 2014, 14:45
Great idea, I want one. I've been wondering when someone will come up with something like this, especially since Google glass became a thing.
Would like to see a little more info come up like revs or engine temp and maybe a simplified gps navigation (possibly just an arrow to denote next turn, like the indicator warning, but different enough to differentiate between them easily) but great start, I think you have the most important info already and to much would become distracting anyway.
Akzle
6th June 2014, 15:45
Suggested improvements:
Targeting Reticle
Health meter
Armour Meter
Ammo Count
Proximity sensor/Alerting
need to fit bond style SMGs and sidewinders with voice activated release. as a bonus, the sidewinders could hang for a few seconds, giving your bike some rocket-power acceleration, before releasing from their cradles....
police 10/7 that shit, fuckers.
bogan
6th June 2014, 15:47
The tech I really want to see, is the display. That's what will make or break such a project, light adjustement for dark visor or nightime conditions, resolution, etc etc... Get it right and the requisite features on top of that will be a piece of piss, get it wrong and the will be of little relevance.
Akzle
6th June 2014, 16:09
and fit explosives, to the unit. if the operator fucks up, doesn't give way, exceeds the posted speed limit, detonate.
R650R
6th June 2014, 16:13
It's a Uni project dude, calm your socks :drool:
And the germans said it was just a delousing shower too...
I can see manufacturers taking up this technology and selling ad space on our visors to google.
Be trying to overtake a car and some Russian Bride website will be flashing in perhipal vision :)
The only cool thing that I'd like is Retina scan anti theft hooked to bike ignition, anything else is just extra info that will detract from real riding.
TheDemonLord
6th June 2014, 17:09
need to fit bond style SMGs and sidewinders with voice activated release. as a bonus, the sidewinders could hang for a few seconds, giving your bike some rocket-power acceleration, before releasing from their cradles....
police 10/7 that shit, fuckers.
This.
Completely this.
Where can I pre-order?
rustic101
6th June 2014, 17:10
Hi guys and well done with your school project.
Now I'm not an academic but HUD has been around since the early 1900's with the invention of the reflector scope, then the military aircraft industry took it to a new level in around 1958. In circa 1988 GM introduced it into some of their vehicle fleet and more recently affordable versions were available for motorcycle helmets. I hope you are not trying to reinvent the wheel ;) I could of course be wrong.
From a riders perspective I personally like to know the state of my bike, position and its behaviours using the systems that come with the bike part of that includes scanning the environment etc. I trialled a reevu helmet and foud that simple technology a major distration to my riding.
My 5c worth and good luck I hope it goes well for you both.
ruaphu
6th June 2014, 19:57
Nice one gents. Would happily have something like that, especially if configurable. Let the user decide what they want to see, i.e redline indication, time, warning lights etc. re the resolution, yeah ya need to nail that aspect to make it easy to see at all times. Sort the bugs, make it diy, paten it then sell the rights to the highest bidder. Cheers
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LubeyChain
6th June 2014, 22:02
This project we just handed in and there are so many more things that we could add and improve on. But, I do agree with some of you when you say 'wont the HUD be more of a distraction'. One of the reasons I explored this was because my bike didn't show the time or have a digital speedo, and instead of getting one installed I wanted to see a product which you could just buy and it would give you all of the things I wanted. :banana:
If I would carry this project on I would like to look at a better display, probably projection. And even looking at implementing things like revs, oil, and NAV.
Milts
6th June 2014, 22:09
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/161603-Fuck-the-Reevu-new-best-helmet-ever
Urano
6th June 2014, 22:53
Here is a show-reel of a project we are developing at university. Doesn't show the prototype as much as we would like because we are still fabricating the case! Everything else works though.
Hope you enjoy.
well, good job guys... :niceone:
hud display for bike helmets are around from a while,with no fortune at all actually.
my 2 cents on the reason:
1-they're all based on the refraction principle. this is perfect for helicopter's helmets, for cars and planes, but for us is a mess. the refractor is bulky on the outside and can be dangerous in case of crash. if thought to be set on the inside it will make the helmet heavier and larger, thinning the absorbent material, making it less effective, and in any case you have a compromise between large enough presentation and small enough projectors.
2-they're all "self sustained", with batteries and various communication systems. this seems cool, but at the end of the day it will only means that you have another battery level to take care about (and its weight to carry around) and another messy pairing procedure, not counting the fact that you need your phone/device to have bt/nfc/whatever always on which is bad for security and for battery draining too.
i'd best set the whole thing trough a different principle:
1- instead of projectors/refractors, let's use thin flexible transparent lcd display and stick it to the visor. transparent plastic lcd are out since '80 (i remember cool pocket calculator...) and cost nothing.this will make the whole visor a display, and at the beginning it wouldn't be necessary a huge resolution or color presentations to have an indication of the gps or stuff like that. moreover, managing a simple lcd can be done with a small and thin processor card, which wouldn't take so much space at all since it is not necessary any projection. a similar form would make it easy even to move the hud from a helmet to another
2- we've seen it within cars too. gettin'in and connecting the phone with a cable is not a huge problem, and often it'll get easier than counting on auto bt connections. beside that, the phone will even charge in the meantime. and cars have no battery problem!
i'd skip the battery at all. let's make a cable (usb better, so you can use it to connect the helmet to pc for setting and stuff): you get on the bike, connect it to the bike and done. simple like that.
LubeyChain
11th June 2014, 20:01
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/161603-Fuck-the-Reevu-new-best-helmet-ever
More than $1,000 USD... No thanks
LubeyChain
11th June 2014, 20:07
i'd best set the whole thing trough a different principle:
1- instead of projectors/refractors, let's use thin flexible transparent lcd display and stick it to the visor. transparent plastic lcd are out since '80 (i remember cool pocket calculator...) and cost nothing.this will make the whole visor a display, and at the beginning it wouldn't be necessary a huge resolution or color presentations to have an indication of the gps or stuff like that. moreover, managing a simple lcd can be done with a small and thin processor card, which wouldn't take so much space at all since it is not necessary any projection. a similar form would make it easy even to move the hud from a helmet to another
Yeah, actually I was looking at calculator screens. With the time constraints we had we didn't have much time to muck around and hack an LCD screen :( And the new bending screens cost a hand and a arm. :spanking:
Mike.Gayner
11th June 2014, 20:11
This crap has come and gone a thousand times, and never materialised into a decent commercial product.
Urano
12th June 2014, 00:52
And the new bending screens cost a hand and a arm. :spanking:
ya...
for this very reason i wouldn't look at the new hypertech billion colors ultraoverHD 100 times foldable displays, but i'd start from something more... naive...
http://www.amazon.com/Hanslin-LCD-Transparent-Alarm-Clock/dp/B00BTTDQ6G
http://www.dorpo.com/pictures/pro_basic/DP-053H.JPG
i can't believe that factories which make those stuff would bill you a zillion to make a 2x5 cm transparent lcd.
then stick it on a visor... after all having a simple presentation with three digits for speed and three arrows (◀︎▲▶︎) for gps indication would be a nice starting point...
Dave-
12th June 2014, 13:19
This crap has come and gone a thousand times, and never materialised into a decent commercial product.
So has VR, but there's real competition in the entertainment market for VR.
In the next decade we're going to see a lot of these 1960-1980's scifi ideas come to real fruition as the technology required to achieve them in a practical manner becomes available and affordable.
LubeyChain, is this for your final year engineering project? I considered doing something like this as my FYP.....but went with Formula SAE instead :D
Do you guys have a working prototype?
Where are you guys at in terms of going to a PCB prototype?
How are you gathering information from the bike? Surely bluetooth is the end goal?
I've just finished a paper on computer vision. It got me onto thinking about the feasibility of warning the rider about pedestrians, hazards and other road users who's vectors intersected with that of the motorbike. I think the possibility exists, but we'd need some next level stereo cameras at a really low price, and the algorithm would be immense, then to do it in real time? whoa.
I'm still surprised at how archaic the modern motorcycle helmet is. Sure the materials science is better, the construction and impact attenuation have all got much better. But they're still essentially a hard shell, with some impact attenuating foam. The most radical change we've seen is probably the pop up front, or the drop down sun visor, both of which are still rubbish unless you're buying from only the best.
imdying
12th June 2014, 17:18
So has VR, but there's real competition in the entertainment market for VR.Of course! Done right, there is serious consumer appetite for it. It appears similar appetite for this sort of tech exists too, not the least of which is from military applications. They have proper amounts of money to spend on R&D, so that's always good news for people looking to get into applied engineering in these fields.
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