Honda VFR400 NC30

[Vinz0r]

Hi there,
I've recently sold my bike (05 ZX6R) and I am looking at picking up something that will be just as much fun, but much cheaper. After a bit of thought, I think that an NC30 would be the most fun I'll get on a budget. I like tinkering with carbs and adding go-fast-bits, so a bike with a decent cult following will allow lots of options for fun upgrades.
I am not hugely worried about minor comsetic issues, I'm more interested in good mechanical condition, with a decent recorded service history.
A box of receipts is a lot more valuable to me than a shiny fairing.
Lower KM's would be better, as I will probably be hanging onto it for quite some time, and it'll get a bit of use.

Soooo if anyone has, or knows of someone who has a mechanically sound NC30 I have cash and I'm interested in buying ASAP.

I'm hoping to spend around $3500, but this will of course depend on condition etc. More for a nice example, and less for something that's in crap condition.

Would also consider an RVF400, but these seem to be pretty rare.

[Vinz0r]

Have been looking at this one: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=735008863
Does anybody have any idea about the history of this bike? KM's are pretty darn low, but the owner hasn't had it for very long and doesn't know if it's been rejetted for the exhaust, or when the valve clearancess were last done, which is a bit of a worry.
I'd also rather have one without the aftermarket bodywork.

Hmm..

[sil3nt]

Too expensive.

I would rather try and grab this for $2500
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-739850666.htm

70,000 km is nothing for these bikes provided they have been serviced when required....

Even this bike that has had an engine transplant (bike has done just over 60,000km) would be better I reckon
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-704773630.htm

[Vinz0r]

Yeah it is a bit pricey.
I had a look at those other two, but I really like the factory colour schemes.
The $3800 one just needs the rear switched back and it'd look almost original! Same scheme as yours I think? I like the red and black.

[Icemaestro]

As above. Can we tell if the 30k is genuine? And how many km's he owned it for? As the valve clearances may have not been checked..you would be able to tell from a ride as to whether the carbs have been sorted, to me buying a vehicle without service history, the price should factor in a full service and check, 5-600$ or so


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[Vinz0r]

As above. Can we tell if the 30k is genuine? And how many km's he owned it for? As the valve clearances may have not been checked..you would be able to tell from a ride as to whether the carbs have been sorted, to me buying a vehicle without service history, the price should factor in a full service and check, 5-600$ or so


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Hah, you pretty much quoted the email i sent him. I checked on carjam and the KM's look consistent on there, but that's not to say the odo has been disconnected for most of the time. He's owned for 1,500 kms and has no idea if valves have been done. I'm reasonably clued up when it comes to tuning carbs, so can probably rejet and tune them myself if they're badly set up, but I'd rather not have to bother with the days of trial and error that requires :P
I think I'd be happy to pay around $3000, due to the total lack of service history.

[sil3nt]

Yeah it is a bit pricey.
I had a look at those other two, but I really like the factory colour schemes.
The $3800 one just needs the rear switched back and it'd look almost original! Same scheme as yours I think? I like the red and black.That aftermarket fairing also requires a different subframe so even if you found some stock shape fairings it probably wouldn't work without the original subframe.

You would be better off repainting one of the other bikes I reckon. Or better yet just ride them as they are!

[Icemaestro]

And ? As to whether the other fairings are oem :-).
Bear in mind these things can be finiky with the carbs :-p getting them on and off is a mish. 3k would be a good buy


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[del-solider]

In regards to that one with a new engine. Was my old bike, he's asking way to much but Pm me if want need any info on it.

[Icemaestro]

In regards to that one with a new engine. Was my old bike, he's asking way to much but Pm me if want need any info on it.

Looking at your pic - you don't own that RVF in camel colours that was on trademe at like 10-15k do you?:-P

[del-solider]

Looking at your pic - you don't own that RVF in camel colours that was on trademe at like 10-15k do you?:-P

Haha nope not me, bought that RVF in my display pic as an insurance write off for $2800 about 6 years ago with just fairing damage.
Chucked some Rossi Rep fairings on it and enjoyed it for about 2 years, was such a mint bike. Ended up selling it for 4k before the prices started rising like crazy, should've kept it really, chucked standard fairings on and would be worth a fortune now.

Missed it so much ended up getting that maroon nc30 to commute on, bought that ridiculously cheap then flicked it to buy my race bike.

[Vinz0r]

In regards to that one with a new engine. Was my old bike, he's asking way to much but Pm me if want need any info on it.

Cheers Del, I don't think I'll be going for that one as I'd rather have one in original colours. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you sell it for?

I offered ~3k for that one with the aftermarket tail (pending mechanical inspection), but he hasn't gotten back to me yet :(

[del-solider]

Cheers Del, I don't think I'll be going for that one as I'd rather have one in original colours. If you don't mind me asking, how much did you sell it for?

I offered ~3k for that one with the aftermarket tail (pending mechanical inspection), but he hasn't gotten back to me yet :(

If I remember correctly I got 3500 for it, and that was me just trying my luck paid a LOT less for it.

Was a great bike, run better rode better and felt better than my mates who's had done half the kms. The main thing with these is not the kms but how they've been treated as stated above by others.

[ducatilover]

Hah, you pretty much quoted the email i sent him. I checked on carjam and the KM's look consistent on there, but that's not to say the odo has been disconnected for most of the time. He's owned for 1,500 kms and has no idea if valves have been done. I'm reasonably clued up when it comes to tuning carbs, so can probably rejet and tune them myself if they're badly set up, but I'd rather not have to bother with the days of trial and error that requires :P
I think I'd be happy to pay around $3000, due to the total lack of service history.

If you're "pretty clued up on tuning carbs" you could do them in your sleep, they're just simple old CV carbs.
As for valve clearances, if you know your spanners well, you'll manage and it is worth knowing they're spot on before setting the carbs up anyway

[mark247]

I think a friend of mine in Te Puke is thinking of selling his. Nc30, around 30,000k ( could be wrong ). It's black with fibreglass fairings if i recall correctly. I can find out more if your are interested.

[Vinz0r]

I think a friend of mine in Te Puke is thinking of selling his. Nc30, around 30,000k ( could be wrong ). It's black with fibreglass fairings if i recall correctly. I can find out more if your are interested.

Yeah, definitely interested. Be keen on any further details you could give me on it; service history, general condition, etc. Not keen on anything that's been run into the ground, but don't want a garage queen either haha (they tend to cost too bloody much!).
If you could pass along my details, or give me his details to get into contact, that'd be much appreciated. I'll send you a PM.

Cheers.

[Vinz0r]

Have a couple I am considering, but still looking!
Can't seem to find any that have original bodywork -_-

[Icemaestro]

If I can get an rvf I'll be putting mine up..now has a full set of the last fairing scheme, all oem, few scratches here and there but otherwise pretty good


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[Vinz0r]

If I can get an rvf I'll be putting mine up..now has a full set of the last fairing scheme, all oem, few scratches here and there but otherwise pretty good


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Oo type 9! Nice. Let me know if you decide to sell up.

[Vinz0r]

Had one in Auckland lined up that I was going to get, but could only get up there on Saturday, and it looks like it has sold today :(

[mark247]

Had one in Auckland lined up that I was going to get, but could only get up there on Saturday, and it looks like it has sold today :(
Which one was that?

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[Vinz0r]

Which one was that?

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Was the VFR400 with the Tyga tail.

[mark247]

Was the VFR400 with the Tyga tail.
ah I considered that one but thought the tyga tail was awful, the front of an 80s bike with the back of starship enterprise. My main worry was that the subframe may had been modified to fit it making it difficult to put an original tail back on.

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[Vinz0r]

My main worry was that the subframe may had been modified to fit it making it difficult to put an original tail back on.



Yeah that tail kit uses a completely different subframe IIRC.

[SJizzle]

Just a question to the wiser motorcycle heads, is the VFR400 an approved learner motorcycle or not? there seems to be some debate about it with a guy selling one on trademe.

[Vinz0r]

Just a question to the wiser motorcycle heads, is the VFR400 an approved learner motorcycle or not? there seems to be some debate about it with a guy selling one on trademe.

No, it isnt. I informed that guy that it isnt on the list, but he is still telling people it is approved. The RVF400 is approved, not the VFR.

[Icemaestro]

Quite common people do it for some of the other bikes that have a new lams approved restricted model, so sellers seem to think their 80hp model will be approved too :-p


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[zeke]

Yeah that tail kit uses a completely different subframe IIRC.
Have got a spare subframe if that helps, no rear fairings tho.

[Vinz0r]

Have got a spare subframe if that helps, no rear fairings tho.

Thanks, but it sold to someone else :(
It's proving quite hard to find an NC30 with any kind of service history, or anything approaching original bodywork.
Maybe I'm being too fussy...

Still looking, money is burning a hole in my pocket, I need to spend it!

[Cam_Valk]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=745068177

But if i had the money, I'd go for this tasty looking CBR400RR
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=745100954

[Icemaestro]

4k for an 89 with 90000k?maybe if it had stock bodywork and colours, and a service history. I imagine part of the prob is winter? I'd get on to hdc about buying his


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[HenryDorsetCase]

Thanks, but it sold to someone else :(
It's proving quite hard to find an NC30 with any kind of service history, or anything approaching original bodywork.
Maybe I'm being too fussy...

Still looking, money is burning a hole in my pocket, I need to spend it!

make me an offer for my NC30 and the shedful of parts I have inculding a frame with tags and plate and rego on hold. BYO spanners. I have no original bodywork.

[Vinz0r]

make me an offer for my NC30 and the shedful of parts I have inculding a frame with tags and plate and rego on hold. BYO spanners. I have no original bodywork.

Hmm, the complete bike is a track bike right? Does it still have charging system and wiring for lights etc? Would it pretty much be a case of moving everything to the new frame, and finding some lights and bodywork?
How many KMs has the engine done? How long has it been a track bike?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Hmm, the complete bike is a track bike right? Does it still have charging system and wiring for lights etc? Would it pretty much be a case of moving everything to the new frame, and finding some lights and bodywork?
How many KMs has the engine done? How long has it been a track bike?

pretty much. no idea on the k's or anything else. I bought it like it is. Allegedly it was built by a KBer . I bought it from a KBer.

[Icemaestro]

Ooo parts...vinzor if you buy the lot you are a darn lot closer than hdc is to me ;-) haha. Any pics hdc? Is it a completely track bike with no road gear? I thought it was a road bike...service stuff?

I got all my bodywork though yahoo japan and just fairings (the secondhand tail)...was a mission but do able again :-)


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[Vinz0r]

pretty much. no idea on the k's or anything else. I bought it like it is. Allegedly it was built by a KBer . I bought it from a KBer.

Ah yep, it might be a bit much work for what I'm after. I need a bike as my primary mode of transportation, so a project probably isn't ideal for my situation!

[NAR RG500]

A guy I know is selling his, it has chinese fairings but is a good bike he would probably take high fours.

In Hamilton too which is close for you

https://www.facebook.com/groups/141941229286165/permalink/175217009291920/

Cheers

[Vinz0r]

Ah ok cool, I've asked for some more details on it. In the ad he says he wants 6k for it :eek5:
Hopefully this is just an upper figure he's throwing out there.

[Icemaestro]

Lol tel him he's dreaming! There was a bike at 6k on Tm that sat there for 2-3 years and that had oem fairings. Chinese ones cost 4-500$ delivered, oem new are 500-1k per panel if you can get them, or spend 6 months searching japan to get a complete set of second hand ones...id offer 3k max, and only if it has a service history, charges well and consumables are all good.


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[Vinz0r]

Lol tel him he's dreaming! There was a bike at 6k on Tm that sat there for 2-3 years and that had oem fairings. Chinese ones cost 4-500$ delivered, oem new are 500-1k per panel if you can get them, or spend 6 months searching japan to get a complete set of second hand ones...id offer 3k max, and only if it has a service history, charges well and consumables are all good.


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Yeah I remember that one, it had the reddish orange rim tape right? I think I saw that one up quite recently, wonder if it eventually sold..
I am hoping to spend 3 - 3.5k for a decent NC30, but the only one I have found that might fit the bill (that one with the Tyga tail), sold before I could get up to Auckland to check it out.

When i wasn't looking to buy I'd browse trademe and always see a few for sale, and I tracked down a minter for a mate for 3.3k a few years back, but now that it's my turn there's nothing!

[Icemaestro]

Yeah that sounds good, just hold out a bit I reckon, one will come up , just the season. If you need one checking out up here just ask.


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[Icemaestro]

Hey http://www.trademe.co.nz/747021965 this one sounds exactly what you want. Luke Millar is on here in the vfr forum too, knows his vfr stuff. Low km's, beautiful bodywork...


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[sil3nt]

Shit that looks good. Lukes race bike build thread on 400greybike is a good read: http://www.400greybike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=30587

The more I look the more I want :lol:

[Icemaestro]

You don't want mine and I'll buy his do you? Though would be more keen if it had better forks, shock, and can with jetting like mine :-p. just looks in such good shape!


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[sil3nt]

You don't want mine and I'll buy his do you? Though would be more keen if it had better forks, shock, and can with jetting like mine :-p. just looks in such good shape!


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[HenryDorsetCase]

All I want is a track bike. His one looks too nice!

My Ohlins shock RVF wheel and racetech forks in that? it is quite tidy.

[Vinz0r]

Phwoar it does look in pretty nick. 89 with mostly original type 1 fairings :)
Only thing I am unhappy about is the shock and forks, from what I have read the 89 is significantly worse than 90 onward (no comp/rebound adjustment?)
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What do you guys think of the price? For an 89 it seems a little steep, but it's in such nice condition!

[sil3nt]

Phwoar it does look in pretty nick. 89 with mostly original type 1 fairings :)
Only thing I am unhappy about is the shock and forks, from what I have read the 89 is significantly worse than 90 onward (no comp/rebound adjustment?)
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What do you guys think of the price? For an 89 it seems a little steep, but it's in such nice condition!Original suspension will be shit no matter what year. It has low ks and the difference between the years isnt anything to worry about. This is more than I paid but looks in much better condition.

[Cam_Valk]

Luke's NC30 on trademe is probably the best i've seen on there in a wee while.
And if you have been following his race thread on 400gb, you can be assured of his quality of work.

His videos of his races are very enjoyable as well.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Phwoar it does look in pretty nick. 89 with mostly original type 1 fairings :)
Only thing I am unhappy about is the shock and forks, from what I have read the 89 is significantly worse than 90 onward (no comp/rebound adjustment?)
.
What do you guys think of the price? For an 89 it seems a little steep, but it's in such nice condition!

Dude its 20 years old....

[mark247]

I dnt think you are going to find much better for that price. I would be jumping at that if I hadn't purchased mine already.

[Icemaestro]

For a track bike though? Seems a waste of a lovely bike ;-)


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[Vinz0r]

Wooo! Bought Lukes NC30!