tlr, gixxer, hayabusa

[texmo]

Whats the diffrences between al these bikes why is the gixxer so popular over the others, when to me...... they all look the same.

[SPORK]

Whats the diffrences between al these bikes why is the gixxer so popular over the others, when to me...... they all look the same.
Um, maybe if you're blind?

The Hayabusa is droopy and sloppy, the GSX-R is sharp and clinical, and the TLR doesn't look anything like the others.

Seriously, WTF?

[chickenfunkstar]

Whats the diffrences between al these bikes why is the gixxer so popular over the others, when to me...... they all look the same.

They're 3 completly different bikes. GSXR is the most popular because it offers great power / handling at a reasonable price.
To me all scooters look pretty much the same.

[BurnCycle]

when to me...... they all look the same.

1300cc Hypersport I4
http://www.scigacz.pl/gallery/moto/suzuki/hayabusa.jpg

1000cc Supersport I4 (also in 750/600 flavors)
http://www.gtmotorcycles.com/newbikes/images/GSXR1000K5ver2.jpg

1000cc Supersport V2
http://www.koups.com/sales/suzuki/images/1999_models/TL1000R-Blue.jpg

Look the same?

[GR81]

they all have 2 wheels?

[slob]

Granted they have the generic "Suzuki" look, but these bikes aren't about looks - at least for me:

GSX1300-R Hayabusa:
- 1298cc inline-4 hyper sports tourer
- Comfy, grunty, FAAAAST!
- Around 150 hp, 210kg

TL1000R:
- 996cc V-Twin superbike
- Grunty, throbbing, FAAST
- Nimbler handling than Hayabusa
- Around 120 hp, 195kg

GSX-R1000:
- 988/998cc inline-4 superbike
- Grunty, FAAAAST!
- More performance than above two
- Around 150 hp, 168kg

[Coyote]

TLR - Fast
GSXR - Very fast
Hayabusa - Fastest production bike

In fact, is the Hayabusa still the fastest production bike? Looking at those stats it would seem like the Gixxer has the advantage

[WRT]

Busa has more weight, but better aerodynamics and gearing for very high speed runs.

[inlinefour]

Whats the diffrences between al these bikes why is the gixxer so popular over the others, when to me...... they all look the same.

Once you get pasy the soooooki name the simularities end :wait:

[Biff]

TLR - fast, but make sure that it has a steering damper fitted. Early models were recalled as the short wheel base and big power plant combined to make for a very 'twitchy' bike. Nice to ride, great for wheelies, but a pain in the arse (literally) over any kind of distance.

GXR - A very fast race bike replica. More manageable than a TLR, less prone to tank slappers and an altogether more complete machine. A very capable machine. Although critics will say that earlier models don't like high mileage due to their build quality. Not so for K4,K5 models. Gets my vote

Busa - No longer the worlds most powerful production bike, (ZX-12R is if you go by BHP). Not a racing bike - straight line speed over a few K’s and it will beat most other production bikes, but show it a set of medium grade corners and its enormous bulbous weight will soon have you being overtaken by 600 and 1000 sports bikes. A very capable sports tourer though, but not particularly friendly around town due to its weight.

[Zed]

Whats the diffrences between al these bikes why is the gixxer so popular over the others, when to me...... they all look the same.They can't possibly all "look" the same being distinctly different models?

Technically the Hayabusa is a Gixxer anyway - GSX1300R! :hitcher:

[Sniper]

All made by Suzuki? Nothing similer to each other

[R6_kid]

from what i know, the TL1000R does look a bit like the older SRAD GSXR line (750 and 600). Nowadays the gixxer thou and busa are a tad overpowerd for my liking but i know ppl that have been enjoying them thoroughly.

I think the gixxer thou wins a 1/4 mile against the busa but i may be wrong. I dont think the busa has changed much since it was bought out (maybe a bit more power/less weight) but otherwise still looks the same to me.

On the aerodynamic side of things... a guy was doing top speed runs on a modded GSXR600... he got an extra 5mph just my changing his front guard to a busa one... 5mph just from airflow over the front wheel at top speed - that is some serious R&D if you ask me :Punk:

[loosebruce]

In fact, is the Hayabusa still the fastest production bike? Looking at those stats it would seem like the Gixxer has the advantage

Not so, even though the Busa is heavier and aerodynamics do play a part in it's strong top end, it's all about the cubes, 1000cc to 1300cc, it's the torque thats kills the GSXR1000 up top. They wouldn't be far apart till 240-50kph once over that kiss the busa good bye. In the twistys though the a busa rider can kiss the GSXR goodbye, depends on what ya want really. Buts it's all torque.

[John]

Whats the diffrences between al these bikes why is the gixxer so popular over the others, when to me...... they all look the same.
Whats with all those scooters, the Random Korea ones and the Vespas whats with that crap they all look gay to me.

Dont stir shit.

[jimdaworm]

According to this the busa has 175bhp not 150
http://www.bikez.com/bike/index.php?bike=20321

[Sniper]

Thats the 2003 model. What do the newer ones house?

[busadayz]

All Busas the world over have the same power stats about 155hp at wheel or 165/170 at crank, some have different emissions controls and the 1st models had no top speed restrictions. There have been very few refinements to them over the years. From what i can tell by talking to people all over the world they seem to be all the same, apart from U.S spec they are left hand drive there.

[DEATH_INC.]

TLR - Fast
GSXR - Very fast
Hayabusa - Fastest production bike

In fact, is the Hayabusa still the fastest production bike? Looking at those stats it would seem like the Gixxer has the advantage
The 12 eats 'em for breakfast,my 2000 model was noticeably faster up top,and the newer 12's are faster again while the busa hasn't hardly changed....and all three will eat the thous over about 250k.....

[unhingedlizard]

you realise this guy has not reposted in here so is probably just stirring up shite?

[Sniper]

Nice sig.....

[texmo]

I saw a tlr today and although its simmilar not the same a a gixxer or busa, I stil lthink the busa looks like a gixxer with a weight management problem, I do find that most sports bikes look very simmilar to me but I can tell the diffrence between most lambrettas by the head light or mudgaurd, All to your own I suppose

[SPORK]

I can tell pretty much any modern bike in like 1/1000th of a second. Like today, instantly spotted a Hayabusa, then a GSXR 1000 K5, then a CBR1000RR real fast as... I rule the gotehill

[texmo]

I can tell pretty much any modern bike in like 1/1000th of a second. Like today, instantly spotted a Hayabusa, then a GSXR 1000 K5, then a CBR1000RR real fast as... I rule the gotehill
Gotehill¿..... whats dat?¿

[pritch]

I've been waiting for Sensei to post to this thread. He knows whether a 'Busa will beat a GSXR or not :-)

I used to wonder why the strange name. Hayabusa is a Japanese falcon that preys on other birds, including Blackbirds.

Clever I thought, but then I'd still prefer the Blackbird

[texmo]

And i would still prefer a ss50 or gs150 or rally 200 or sx200 but thats just me.

[cowpoos]

TLR - fast, but make sure that it has a steering damper fitted. Early models were recalled as the short wheel base and big power plant combined to make for a very 'twitchy' bike. Nice to ride, great for wheelies,

You mean the TLS...97 TLS were recalled for a steering damper retro fit...not tlr.

I think TLR can with em standard in 98 when they were realesed...

[Biff]

You mean the TLS...97 TLS were recalled for a steering damper retro fit...not tlr.

I think TLR can with em standard in 98 when they were realesed...

Funny you should say that - I was only corrected about my little factoid on Sunday just gone while talking guff with a guy that owned one.

Ta.

[cowpoos]

Not so, even though the Busa is heavier and aerodynamics do play a part in it's strong top end, it's all about the cubes, 1000cc to 1300cc, it's the torque thats kills the GSXR1000 up top. They wouldn't be far apart till 240-50kph once over that kiss the busa good bye. In the twistys though the a busa rider can kiss the GSXR goodbye, depends on what ya want really. Buts it's all torque.


Horsepower is only a caulculation of torque over time...
Revs multiplie torque,in a given time frame,gives you HP...which is the generated force of a motor[in this case]...so the thou is producing a higher generated force than the busa at higher rev's...so if the thou motor was in the busa...with the busa's gearing it will go faster topend...the drag coe of the busa has more to do with topend than what most people are lead to believe...air creates a huge amount of fricton...its caulculation I can't remeber...but its digressive...find a fan that will blow a 300kmph wind at you standing up [u won't beable to stand or squat in that amount of wind...this is just an example]....then squat down...you'll more than halve the force...
halve that force and from memorie you require about 33% less HP!!!!

[cowpoos]

From what i can tell by talking to people all over the world they seem to be all the same, apart from U.S spec they are left hand drive there.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHAHAHHA

left hand drive.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......lol....lmao

I suppose it was you that invented the left handed screw driver....lol

[cowpoos]

Funny you should say that - I was only corrected about my little factoid on Sunday just gone while talking guff with a guy that owned one.

Ta.

and just for interests sake...the tls's twitchy nature has more to do with the the rear rotary damper[about 60% more compression than what was needed]to higher compression,to much internal friction...rear spring to soft...may not sound right to most people...but that was what the problem was...and suzuki knew it...

[cowpoos]

I saw a tlr today and although its simmilar not the same a a gixxer or busa, I stil lthink the busa looks like a gixxer with a weight management problem, I do find that most sports bikes look very simmilar to me but I can tell the diffrence between most lambrettas by the head light or mudgaurd, All to your own I suppose

WTF....scooters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[texmo]

WTF....scooters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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