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Shaun Harris
20th June 2014, 10:14
This tells me he is seriously considering there offer. RD was 1.4 slower than Dov at recent test session, so I reckon the Suzuki with a current fast fresh rider is a Top 6 bike Now!!!!~ and poss even better than that. They really do need ONE top fast rider, other wise the whole exercise is a waste of time

BoristheBiter
20th June 2014, 11:37
This tells me he is seriously considering there offer. RD was 1.4 slower than Dov at recent test session, so I reckon the Suzuki with a current fast fresh rider is a Top 6 bike Now!!!!~ and poss even better than that. They really do need ONE top fast rider, other wise the whole exercise is a waste of time

Jorge? Danni?

oooh the Espargaro bro's that would be a good team.

Shaun Harris
20th June 2014, 12:10
Jorge? Danni?

oooh the Espargaro bro's that would be a good team.




Jorge or Danni yes please but doubt the cheque book on that one for the wages and why not for Espargo but still think they will need and will get One very experienced and fast rider so I only really see Crutchi or Dovi- Of Course Nikky H is another long shot

BoristheBiter
20th June 2014, 13:07
Jorge or Danni yes please but doubt the cheque book on that one for the wages and why not for Espargo but still think they will need and will get One very experienced and fast rider so I only really see Crutchi or Dovi- Of Course Nikky H is another long shot

I wouldn't write off Pol and Aleix as they are 6 & 7 in the points standings just behind Dovi so that only leaves the top 4 of which we know both Val and Marc are signed for two years.
Cal is signed for another 3 if I remeber rightly and dovi for 1. (i could be wrong as i haven't followed it as much as I would like)

I do think the gamble of the Espargo bro's would pay off.

codgyoleracer
20th June 2014, 13:22
Yep, Asparagus would be a good choice. I still like Ianone and Bradl as well as an option, but not sure on their contracts ?

del-solider
20th June 2014, 13:54
I wouldn't write off Pol and Aleix as they are 6 & 7 in the points standings just behind Dovi so that only leaves the top 4 of which we know both Val and Marc are signed for two years.
Cal is signed for another 3 if I remeber rightly and dovi for 1. (i could be wrong as i haven't followed it as much as I would like)

I do think the gamble of the Espargo bro's would pay off.

Dovi's out of contract end of this year
Crutchlow end of next year but has a pull out option in his contract, apparently he has to commit by July if he wants to stay at duc

HenryDorsetCase
20th June 2014, 14:50
Bradl I like.

and Dani is off contract at the end of the year. But didnt he ask for 8M Euro?

Drew
20th June 2014, 16:41
I bet they take Crutchlow, and he continues to get his arse handed to him.

He's not that good on a bike that isn't mostly set up to ride before he sits on it. Tech 3. "Whine whine, cry cry, I want the new fuel tank". After it's fitted. "Whaaaaaa, put the old one back in, I'm slower". Yet Rossi and Lorenzo both went faster after setting it up.

Shaun Harris
21st June 2014, 08:16
Dovi's out of contract end of this year
Crutchlow end of next year but has a pull out option in his contract, apparently he has to commit by July if he wants to stay at duc







Both are availlable as contract runs out this year, CC By his own choice of walking away

FROSTY
21st June 2014, 12:10
Definitely lorenso. Although if pedrosa keeps playing second fiddle he might jump ship.
By all accounts that bike is an apsolute weapon

Crasherfromwayback
21st June 2014, 14:21
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By all accounts that bike is an apsolute weapon

What bike? The Suzuki? Bit early to be saying that if that's what you're referring to. I'd say it's still a fair bit off the pace.

FROSTY
21st June 2014, 17:01
What bike? The Suzuki? Bit early to be saying that if that's what you're referring to. I'd say it's still a fair bit off the pace.
happy to be proven wrong mate but I thought it looked pretty darn quick in unofficial practice before and after motogp.

Crasherfromwayback
21st June 2014, 17:05
happy to be proven wrong mate but I thought it looked pretty darn quick in unofficial practice before and after motogp.

I just don't think old RDP is that far off the pace as a rider...so we'll see before too long I'm guessing. But pretty hard to be out of the game for a few years then storm back in and expect to be on the pace right away mate...

Drew
21st June 2014, 17:42
I just don't think old RDP is that far off the pace as a rider...so we'll see before too long I'm guessing. But pretty hard to be out of the game for a few years then storm back in and expect to be on the pace right away mate...

One to two seconds off lead pace when he was racing. Seems like the figures stack up.

Crasherfromwayback
21st June 2014, 17:46
One to two seconds off lead pace when he was racing. Seems like the figures stack up.

On what bike when? Maybe my memory is fogged because Rach wanted to root him! But on a semi decent bike, I don't recall him being that far off the pace.

Drew
21st June 2014, 17:51
On what bike when? Maybe my memory is fogged because Rach wanted to root him! But on a semi decent bike, I don't recall him being that far off the pace.

Honestly, I couldn't tell you what he was riding in his last year. Honda satellite perhaps? If so, it's a lot closer to the proper pace now.

Crasherfromwayback
21st June 2014, 17:57
Honestly, I couldn't tell you what he was riding in his last year. Honda satellite perhaps? If so, it's a lot closer to the proper pace now.

Don't make me go back through my Moto GP.com archives mate...

Drew
21st June 2014, 18:00
Don't make me go back through my Moto GP.com archives mate...

I'm pretty sure he rode a Showa/Nissin equipped Honda...fairly well down the much weaker pack than runs now.

Happy to be wrong, it's just the picture I have floating around my head.

steveyb
21st June 2014, 18:36
Aspar Team ART bike last two seasons.

Crasherfromwayback
21st June 2014, 18:48
Aspar Team ART bike last two seasons.

Ah. Yep. Pretty easy to be a bit off the pace on those puppies I guess.

Shaun Harris
22nd June 2014, 11:38
Ah. Yep. Pretty easy to be a bit off the pace on those puppies I guess.











My guess is he would be 1-2 seconds of Dovi pace today on the same bike same situation which would make the Suzuki as it a top 6 place bit if kit

Crasherfromwayback
22nd June 2014, 11:40
My guess is he would be 1-2 seconds of Dovi pace today on the same bike same situation which would make the Suzuki as it a top 6 place bit if kit

We'll see soon enough I guess.

Shaun Harris
22nd June 2014, 11:51
We'll see soon enough I guess.






Hope so man, I really want to see a consistent reliable point scorer on that Baby and one crash or win man like CC

Crasherfromwayback
22nd June 2014, 11:58
One to two seconds off lead pace when he was racing. Seems like the figures stack up.

A quick glance back to 2010 when he was on a decent sat bike shows this...

Qatar...winner...Rossi. DP = 6th some 9.3 seconds back. So nah mate...was never really 1-2 secs per lap off the pace on decent equipment.

Crasherfromwayback
22nd June 2014, 11:59
and one crash or win man like CC

Crash or win? Just crash so far innit?

Shaun Harris
22nd June 2014, 12:03
Crash or win? Just crash so far innit?






Haha Guess so currently, but you do not just forget how to ride and that he sure can do

Crasherfromwayback
22nd June 2014, 12:06
Haha Guess so currently, but you do not just forget how to ride and that he sure can do

For sure. But Dovi is certainly showing him up right now.

Shaun Harris
22nd June 2014, 12:09
For sure. But Dovi is certainly showing him up right now.







Sure is, and that is another reason why I would go with Dovi, he starts and finishes races. Even if he has to push his own team mate of track haha re Nikky H.

Crasherfromwayback
22nd June 2014, 12:21
Sure is, and that is another reason why I would go with Dovi, he starts and finishes races. Even if he has to push his own team mate of track haha re Nikky H.

Suzuki should sign Dovi and Jack Miller. And old hand and a new hot head animal.

Shaun Harris
22nd June 2014, 12:28
Suzuki should sign Dovi and Jack Miller. And old hand and a new hot head animal.






I AGREE 100% man, I cannot honestly believe Miller has not announced a new big contract as yet, he sure has that special bit of Australian racer in him= and that would be brilliant management work By Suzuki I say




( Of course it comes from the healthier Kiwi Blood)

Crasherfromwayback
22nd June 2014, 12:30
I AGREE 100% man, )

Stop agreeing with me so often. People will think we're a couple.

Shaun Harris
22nd June 2014, 12:32
Stop agreeing with me so often. People will think we're a couple.








Haha don't worry apparently I will spin out soon and go off my meds and not go to the windscreen washer crew so that will change again now Im bored with Drew crying

BoristheBiter
22nd June 2014, 14:20
Crash or win? Just crash so far innit?

To be fair one of those crashes was due to bike failure and the others were just bike failure.
the duc's have been even more shit than usual this year.


Stop agreeing with me so often. People will think we're a couple.

I thought there was something going on.:whistle:

Mental Trousers
22nd June 2014, 15:57
The Suzuki is a good bike by the looks but they really should've done at least 1 wild card race before now. It's no good trying to develop a bike in isolation and the limited MotoGP test days won't show how good it is.

When they finally start competing it'll take half a season to hit the top 6 consistently, but to start with they'll probably be ahead of the RCV1000's but behind the Ducatis (except Crutchlow haha).

jasonu
22nd June 2014, 16:28
Although if pedrosa keeps playing second fiddle he might jump ship.


That is all he has ever been. He is todays Randy Mamola. Always the bridesmaid etc

jasonu
22nd June 2014, 16:31
Stop agreeing with me so often. People will think we're a couple.

A couple of what?

Crasherfromwayback
22nd June 2014, 17:09
A couple of what?

Old twats.

Brian d marge
22nd June 2014, 18:51
This tells me he is seriously considering there offer. RD was 1.4 slower than Dov at recent test session, so I reckon the Suzuki with a current fast fresh rider is a Top 6 bike Now!!!!~ and poss even better than that. They really do need ONE top fast rider, other wise the whole exercise is a waste of time

do you know who the crew chief is? I havent been in the loop for a while

Stephen

Shaun Harris
23rd June 2014, 07:29
do you know who the crew chief is? I havent been in the loop for a while

Stephen








Have not paid attention to that if it has been mentioned. The managers name gets mentioned a lot though

BuzzardNZ
23rd June 2014, 08:18
Stop agreeing with me so often. People will think we're a couple.

And the perfect couple you two would make. You'll be the Wills and Kate of KB :innocent:

Crasherfromwayback
23rd June 2014, 08:33
And the perfect couple you two would make. You'll be the Wills and Kate of KB :innocent:

Only ginga I fancy rooting is Samantha Hayes. 298152

roogazza
23rd June 2014, 08:42
Only ginga I fancy rooting is Samantha Hayes. 298152

Agreed ! We could commit a few atrocities on that ! :drool:

Crasherfromwayback
23rd June 2014, 08:45
Agreed ! We could commit a few atrocities on that ! :drool:

What's this *we* white man? I saw her first!!!

BuzzardNZ
23rd June 2014, 11:33
Agreed ! We could commit a few atrocities on that ! :drool:

LOL a bit of 2 on 1 action. I'm sure she's up for it!