Motivated GSX-R seller, not?

[Premature Accelerato]

Somebody please tell me there is something wrong with me. I recently spotted a GSXR 750 trackbike for sale on Tardme and thought it might be worth looking at. I contacted the seller and expalined that as I lived in Wgtn and that it is a long drive to the Waikato, I had a good few questions about it to see if it was worth the trip. No problems, I get his email address and I send off the following questions.

Re your bike. Are you able to help me out with any of these questions. Of
the approx 17000km its done, roughly how much of it has been done on the
track. Do you have any idea if its previous owners raced it? Are you able to
give me its current engine compression? Has it had any engine work done to
it, is it on its original timing chain, when were the shims last checked.
Has it had a brake service recently/at all. What weight rider are the shock
and forks set up for. Any play in the head bearings, shock linkages or
anything else for that matter. What did its last service consist of and how
often do you replace its oil and brake fluid. Is there any pitting on the
forks and are there any leaks from the fork seals. Any misfiring or flat
spots.

Sorry to have asked so many questions but I live in Wellington and what you
tell me will obviously influence any decision I make to come up and have a look


No problem to that stage. Then comes the reply that he will pass on answering them. Strange. So I go back and ask why. He comes back and says he is just to busy to answer them but says the bike is in good nick. Well, I can almost live with that, but then he goes and blacklists me. Should I have only asked maybe 1 or 2 question?.

[Mike.Gayner]

There's nothing unreasonable about those questions. I'd be very wary of buying that bike, because I'd say there's a very good reason he doesn't want to answer.

[SMOKEU]

The person is either:
a. A fuckwit with something to hide.
b. Not really keen on selling it in the first place.

[unstuck]

The person is either:
a. A fuckwit with something to hide.
b. Not really keen on selling it in the first place.

Im picking a. The guy is a fuckwit. Perfectly acceptable questions.:Punk:

[R650R]

Maybe he's a trademe veteran and knows that people who ask so many questions rarely end up buying or even bidding. He might have ten other people emailing same lists.
I'd happily answer that stuff conversation wise but would prob respond the same if it asked via email. I'd include a lot of that info in the auction itself though, and even when people do that half the bidders don't read it anyway!
BTW I wouldn't buy any track toy that I didn't know the owner or seen in action at track...

[imdying]

Maybe he's a trademe veteran and knows that people who ask so many questions rarely end up buying or even bidding. That would be my guess. I assume it's a cheap pre-loved GSXR track bike... it is what it is... either come and look at it or fuck off.

[HenryDorsetCase]

welcome to the wonderful world of tard me.

[Big Dog]

Option C I have hit a few times. C = bike does not really exist. Create a new alias with no trades and ask one question. Something along the lines of cash buyer, keen as, when can I view the bike?
Sound naive as. Last couple of times I did that with a doubtful one they offered to ship it at my cost if I paid an amount and agreed to either ship it back or pay the rest.

Another good check is to google the email address of the vendor.

Best one yet was a 2 yr, 1200 km lc4 for 4k. Urgent sale. Seller has moved to Australia.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[avgas]

It's a $500 bike isn't it?

If so - yes, too many questions?

In general I ask a max of 3 to start a conversation. Anymore than that and there is a strong chance you are wasting both peoples time.

[tigertim20]

Somebody please tell me there is something wrong with me. I recently spotted a GSXR 750 trackbike for sale on Tardme and thought it might be worth looking at. I contacted the seller and expalined that as I lived in Wgtn and that it is a long drive to the Waikato, I had a good few questions about it to see if it was worth the trip. No problems, I get his email address and I send off the following questions.

Re your bike. Are you able to help me out with any of these questions. Of
the approx 17000km its done, roughly how much of it has been done on the
track. Do you have any idea if its previous owners raced it? Are you able to
give me its current engine compression? Has it had any engine work done to
it, is it on its original timing chain, when were the shims last checked.
Has it had a brake service recently/at all. What weight rider are the shock
and forks set up for. Any play in the head bearings, shock linkages or
anything else for that matter. What did its last service consist of and how
often do you replace its oil and brake fluid. Is there any pitting on the
forks and are there any leaks from the fork seals. Any misfiring or flat
spots.

Sorry to have asked so many questions but I live in Wellington and what you
tell me will obviously influence any decision I make to come up and have a look


No problem to that stage. Then comes the reply that he will pass on answering them. Strange. So I go back and ask why. He comes back and says he is just to busy to answer them but says the bike is in good nick. Well, I can almost live with that, but then he goes and blacklists me. Should I have only asked maybe 1 or 2 question?.
if you are that interested, ask the guy to drop it at a local shop for proper evaluation at YOUR expense.
he is probably wary because if you ask specific questions, that he may not be qualified to answer, and he says ''its fine" he is liable if it turns out not to be (even if he believes it is fine)
When I sell bikes, usually those with the most email questions dont have any money or intention to purchase. GENUINELY interested buyers tend to visit, request it be dropped somewhere for assessment, or get a friend/acquaintance in the area to look t it for them

[cs363]

It's a $500 bike isn't it?

If so - yes, too many questions?

In general I ask a max of 3 to start a conversation. Anymore than that and there is a strong chance you are wasting both peoples time.

It's a bit more than $500: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-721102539.htm

[R650R]

It's a bit more than $500: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-721102539.htm

A bit too much more, bit pricey for an 8 year old tracky with no road gear...

[rustic101]

The registration plates of two vehicles are visible and readable in his pictures

Stalking much.....

[MVnut]

A bit too much more, bit pricey for an 8 year old tracky with no road gear...

Exactly, I would say more like $4 - 5k

[Premature Accelerato]

if you are that interested, ask the guy to drop it at a local shop for proper evaluation at YOUR expense.
he is probably wary because if you ask specific questions, that he may not be qualified to answer, and he says ''its fine" he is liable if it turns out not to be (even if he believes it is fine)
When I sell bikes, usually those with the most email questions dont have any money or intention to purchase. GENUINELY interested buyers tend to visit, request it be dropped somewhere for assessment, or get a friend/acquaintance in the area to look t it for them

First off Tiger tim, I could hardly drop in, he's 600km away. Secondly, I do have the money. Thirdly I dont know anyone in the Waikato and fourthly he blacklisted me so I couldnt do fuck all else about it. My initial question was merely, should I have done things differently and my specific questions were based on things I found important when purchasing previous bikes. I just assumed that he would know as much; as I know my own bikes pretty much inside out, especially the one Im most likely to killed on. I understand there are some time waster out there but had he put more information in his advert it would have made things easier. Anyway, Im black listed so I will just move on and wait till another pops up.

[aderino4]

If you send the email exactly as you type it in the first post, it could be because you put everything in one giant block of text.

I found that people are more likely to answer your questions if you put them in bullet points rather than a block of text with little to no punctuation.

Unfortunately trademe is full of time wasters; and just like job interviews both buyers and sellers need to give a goo impression within the first 2 lines of communication. Otherwise the other party will just think that you're wasting their time.

[unstuck]

; and just like job interviews , need to give a goo impression

So my next interview I should just whip it out and pump a load over their desk, new I was doing it wrong.:blink:

[Premature Accelerato]

If you send the email exactly as you type it in the first post, it could be because you put everything in one giant block of text.

I found that people are more likely to answer your questions if you put them in bullet points rather than a block of text with little to no punctuation.

Unfortunately trademe is full of time wasters; and just like job interviews both buyers and sellers need to give a goo impression within the first 2 lines of communication. Otherwise the other party will just think that you're wasting their time.

Yep, I did send it in one block. Will remember your points next time, cheers.

[nodrog]

Is your Telephone broken?

[Premature Accelerato]

Is your Telephone broken?

Nope. Im blacklisted so thats the end if it. Will just wait till another comes up, no rush.

[nodrog]

Nope. Im blacklisted so thats the end if it. Will just wait till another comes up, no rush.

If you cant afford a toll call, you probably cant afford a track bike.

That's what he will be thinking.

[Big Dog]

If you cant afford a toll call, you probably cant afford a track bike.

That's what he will be thinking.

Pretty short sighted. I like to get all Comms regarding a sale in writing. Even if it is only am email or text.

Personally I know how impulsive I can be ( bought the 'busa on impulse while shopping for a jacket) so I don't talk on the phone until I am sure I have enough facts to make an informed decision and am ready to see if it feels right.

Mind you I would. It contact a vendor unless a deal was there to be done.

I get a little excited and suddenly suffer a very poor attention span when buying something as awesome as a bike. The ability to read it a few times and make a proper decision may well make me a pain in the arse, but then handing over that kind of money only a fool does not have the facts.

The bit I hated selling the 'busa was the number of half arsed contacts from people who sounded like they did not qualify for secondary school. Let alone a license.

"Yeah guv can I have a thrash Sunday?" Was a very real email question. The answer to that would be: sure hand over full payment in cash, If you don't come back I'll assume you want it?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.