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Paul in NZ
26th June 2014, 15:43
A sporty anyone could love...
http://thekneeslider.com/michigan-mafia-sportster-by-mule-motorcycles/
GrayWolf
26th June 2014, 16:06
A sporty anyone could love...
http://thekneeslider.com/michigan-mafia-sportster-by-mule-motorcycles/
So all that engine work, for ABOUT 10BHP MORE THAN A STANDARD xr1200?? <_<
Just as easy to buy (XR1200) off the shelf and lighten it a bit.
Crasherfromwayback
26th June 2014, 16:11
A sporty anyone could love...
http://thekneeslider.com/michigan-mafia-sportster-by-mule-motorcycles/
Yeah love it. Might have to build one one day...
Trade_nancy
26th June 2014, 16:16
Looks good,..but hope there's a chain guard to go on that.
Crasherfromwayback
26th June 2014, 16:16
So all that engine work, for ABOUT 10BHP MORE THAN A STANDARD xr1200?? <_<
Just as easy to buy (XR1200) off the shelf and lighten it a bit.
ALL that engine work? They've given it a light massage mate. Should I build one...I'll go sick on it. Use an XB9 crank (shorter stroke...can rev them to 9 grand...big 1400cc kit pistons...easily get over 100 foot pounds of torque. Wheelie monster.
willytheekid
26th June 2014, 16:55
VERY nice!:yes:
...I like simple, functional and sexy!!
(altho...I suspect that pod filter may not last very long:mellow:)
98tls
26th June 2014, 17:07
Fuck em i cant find anything negative to say about the bloody thing.Wish i could afford one just for the trip to work.:niceone:
MisterD
26th June 2014, 17:45
(altho...I suspect that pod filter may not last very long:mellow:)
Longer than it will take to empty that diddy little tank
imdying
26th June 2014, 17:49
ALL that engine work? They've given it a light massage mate.I must be reading it wrong, doesn't it have:
- A block from a Buell, bored out
- Sportster crank
- Sportster rods
- Ported heads (and presumably larger valves)
- A different carb
- Custom inlet manifold
- Aftermarket pipes
I'm not sure that swapping out the motor, then doing further work to it, the changing the entire induction and exhaust systems, equates to a light massage. I'm not really sure how it only equates to less than a 10% increase in power either.
The bike is currently in the jetting/tuning stage, but so far, it starts in about .02 seconds when you hit the button!!
When the most exciting thing they can say about it is how quickly it starts, it really paints a picture.
SMOKEU
26th June 2014, 18:04
I don't normally like cruisers, but this one looks quite nice. I'd have one.
Laava
26th June 2014, 18:12
I don't normally like cruisers, but this one looks quite nice. I'd have one.
That is not a cruiser.
Kickaha
26th June 2014, 18:40
A sporty anyone could love...
Except me, if it doesn't have a front guard then it's shit
Voltaire
26th June 2014, 18:45
If the proportions were better it might be nicer.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/3ccccbbada51b3a8bec3863bc04b9c43/tumblr_mlee93M54n1qingbgo1_500.jpg
SMOKEU
26th June 2014, 18:56
That is not a cruiser.
It's a heavily modified cruiser. Still has a cruiser engine.
Crasherfromwayback
26th June 2014, 18:59
I must be reading it wrong, doesn't it have:
- A block from a Buell, bored out
- Sportster crank
- Sportster rods
- Ported heads (and presumably larger valves)
- A different carb
- Custom inlet manifold
- Aftermarket pipes
I'm not sure that swapping out the motor, then doing further work to it, the changing the entire induction and exhaust systems, equates to a light massage. I'm not really sure how it only equates to less than a 10% increase in power either.
When the most exciting thing they can say about it is how quickly it starts, it really paints a picture.
Well, it's actually a 1200 M2 Buell engine, which obviously is a lightly modified Sporty engine anyway. So hardly a huge mod there right? Putting a heavier crank in it from a Sporty to smooth it out is hardly much of a hot rodding mod either right? So what....an exhaust you say? Well a std exhaust wouldn't fit the frame now, and so they had to change it anyway right? Hardly earth shattering I wouldn't have thought? Bored the cyls right? To what...1st over size to freshen up a worn engine? Look out top fuelers!!! A diff manifold? Holy shit! So what we've got is a 1200cc Buell engine, with a mild port job, cams and??? Yep...a light massage in my books mate. When the thing is bored to 1400cc with a trick short throw crank, down draft juel injection with wild cams then we're getting a lil serious. We built a 1350cc Buell XB12 a while ago...does around 125hp and 115ftlbs worth of torque. Most Japanese bikes won't see which way it went on the street.
Motu
26th June 2014, 19:05
I hope they use it on a gravel road, it'd be a waste otherwise.
AllanB
26th June 2014, 19:24
Very nice. Interesting responses nit-picking the base of the machine. I'd be happy to park it in my shed.
Crasherfromwayback
26th June 2014, 19:30
I hope they use it on a gravel road, it'd be a waste otherwise.
I sure as fuck would.
Very nice. Interesting responses nit-picking the base of the machine. I'd be happy to park it in my shed.
Hell yeah.
98tls
26th June 2014, 19:44
Motorcycle forums :facepalm:Crashers got it 1/2 right simple fact is that somebody with ability on that thing will make anyone with none on anything they choose to name regardless of output or any other fucking thing look stupid.Happens every weekend but oddly nobody posts up about it when there on the receiving end.
GrayWolf
26th June 2014, 20:12
If the proportions were better it might be nicer.
Now THAT is a Sportster I could love, thats a really purty cafe racer!
skippa1
26th June 2014, 20:36
A sporty anyone could love...
http://thekneeslider.com/michigan-mafia-sportster-by-mule-motorcycles/
Very slick. Thanks:niceone:
If the proportions were better it might be nicer.
But but but ..... that's a "Girls bike"
skippa1
26th June 2014, 20:52
But but but ..... that's a "Girls bike"
Nice combo
Nice combo
Yup.
Love it or hate it, the Harley Sportster has been an American motorcycling icon since 1957. Around 50,000 are built every year, taking up a fifth of the Milwaukee factory’s production capacity.
HenryDorsetCase
26th June 2014, 21:18
Motorcycle forums :facepalm:Crashers got it 1/2 right simple fact is that somebody with ability on that thing will make anyone with none on anything they choose to name regardless of output or any other fucking thing look stupid.Happens every weekend but oddly nobody posts up about it when there on the receiving end.
Its cos we're all above average. :)
ellipsis
26th June 2014, 21:35
......Sportster, BSOC....
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Voltaire
26th June 2014, 22:31
......Sportster, BSOC....
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Gives me a good run for my money on the BMW....but not for much longer mwahaaaa mwahhhhaaaa.
The other mid 70's Harley 1000 the BMW gets on a good day...:innocent:
imdying
27th June 2014, 09:33
Well, it's actually a 1200 M Buell engine, which obviously is a lightly modified Sporty engine anyway. So hardly a huge mod there right?Yeah, there's your salesman lines coming through (I was going to say lies, but it's not really). That is a huge modification... that is not the block it left the factory with, short of changing the frame, it's difficult to find a modification with more significance than that.
Putting aheavier crank in it from a Sporty to smooth it out is hardly much of a hot rodding mod either right?No, other than a like for like replacement, changing cranks is not considered light modification.
So what....an exhaust you say? Well a std exhaust wouldn't fit the frame now, and so they had to change it anyway right? Hardly earth shattering I wouldn't havfe thought? Bored the cyls right? To what...ist over size to freshen up a worn engine? Look out top fuelers!!! A diff manifold? Holy shit! So what we've got is a 1200cc Buell engine, with a mild port job, cams and??? No, what we have is a bike that has had it's entire induction system changed. All of it from the filter, through the manifold, past the valves, the head, the cams, out the other side, through a different exhaust and muffler.
Yep...a light massage in my books mate. When the thing is bored to 1400cc with a trick short throw crank, down draft juel injection with wild cams then we're getting a lil serious. We built a 1350cc Buell XB12 a while ago...does around 125hp and 115ftlbs worth of torque.Yeah right, because there is only lightly modified and hugely modified with nothing in between.
Most Japanese bikes won't see which way it went on the street.What a load of rubbish, I've never seen a street without corners.
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 09:36
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What a load of rubbish, I've never seen a street without corners.
Ummmm...sorry mate, but an XB12 is one of the best handling street bikes I've ridden. And I've ridden a few. You're simply letting your hate of all things HD cloud your wee peepers. That, and I bet my left nut you've never ridden a well set up/hot rodded one.
200BUSA
27th June 2014, 10:14
It looks a nice bike but would it handle as well as this?
Big Dave
27th June 2014, 13:21
Ummmm...sorry mate, but an XB12 is one of the best handling street bikes I've ridden. And I've ridden a few. You're simply letting your hate of all things HD cloud your wee peepers. That, and I bet my left nut you've never ridden a well set up/hot rodded one.
Welcome to the internet. You have reached the end.
Re OP. I like it. My kinda Harley. The problem with it is that by the time you put all the shit back on it that you need to get to get it registered - guards that comply, number plate, legal lighting - it kinda looks like a XR1200 again - with a smaller tank.
Personally my favourite Deus bike is a Big Block - probably a standard dyna - that they turned into a full-on flat tracker style. I'd throw more coin at it that they did. Excel wheels, Ohlins, Race Tech, et al. For a big bloke it would be the shizz.
I video/photographed a Sporty yesterday too. 1200T Super Low. Mark rode it:
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MIXONE
27th June 2014, 14:12
Ummmm...sorry mate, but an XB12 is one of the best handling street bikes I've ridden. And I've ridden a few. You're simply letting your hate of all things HD cloud your wee peepers. That, and I bet my left nut you've never ridden a well set up/hot rodded one.
I rode my mate's XB12 a while back while he rode my duck.Not as chuckable as the ducati but I was more than impressed with the handling.:niceone:
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 14:52
I rode my mate's XB12 a while back while he rode my duck.Not as chuckable as the ducati but I was more than impressed with the handling.:niceone:
They're super SUPER fickle regarding tyre pressures and rear shock sag too. So if they ain't right...it all goes out the window.
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 14:58
Personally my favourite Deus bike is a Big Block - probably a standard dyna - that they turned into a full-on flat tracker style. I'd throw more coin at it that they did. Excel wheels, Ohlins, Race Tech, et al. For a big bloke it would be the shizz.
I video/photographed a Sporty yesterday too. 1200T Super Low. Mark rode it:
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Yeah a hot rod Dyna is cool as shit.
Just as well you didn't have to ride the 12 hundy. Fucking legs would be round ya head!
HenryDorsetCase
27th June 2014, 15:02
I video/photographed a Sporty yesterday too. 1200T Super Low. Mark rode it:
Yet again you have failed to get me to ride the "Short arse specific" bike model.
:sigh:
HenryDorsetCase
27th June 2014, 15:04
They're super SUPER fickle regarding tyre pressures and rear shock sag too. So if they ain't right...it all goes out the window.
I read somewhere that EB's favourite bike was a Honda RS250 GP bike and that as near as possible the Buell geometry and wheelbase mimics that. they certainly are short and go well. I really liked the one I rode. But the bike I bought was that Honda Hornet 900: what swung it was same money but brand new and Honda reliability and new bike warranty.
Probably a mistake, in hindsight.
Swoop
27th June 2014, 15:11
The bike itself is lovely.
Why it still wears a HD badge is perplexing, since 1/2 of the frame appears to be of that brand, the rest seems to come from other sources.
The list of other manufacturers supplying parts, seems rather large.
"Custom", I presume...
I must be reading it wrong, doesn't it have:
- A block from a Buell, bored out
- Sportster crank
- Sportster rods
- Ported heads (and presumably larger valves)
- A different carb
- Custom inlet manifold
- Aftermarket pipes
I'm not sure that swapping out the motor, then doing further work to it, the changing the entire induction and exhaust systems, equates to a light massage. I'm not really sure how it only equates to less than a 10% increase in power either.
When the most exciting thing they can say about it is how quickly it starts, it really paints a picture.
+1.
GrayWolf
27th June 2014, 15:12
Welcome to the internet. You have reached the end.
Re OP. I like it. My kinda Harley. The problem with it is that by the time you put all the shit back on it that you need to get to get it registered - guards that comply, number plate, legal lighting - it kinda looks like a XR1200 again - with a smaller tank.
Personally my favourite Deus bike is a Big Block - probably a standard dyna - that they turned into a full-on flat tracker style.
Easy fixed, Buy an MT-01 and put a Stage 2 ECU in, open the mufflers, airbox, and a decent filter for proper breathing..... Big block motor, Cafe/standard styling. :2thumbsup
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 15:29
I read somewhere that EB's favourite bike was a Honda RS250 GP bike and that as near as possible the Buell geometry and wheelbase mimics that. .
Having raced an RS250, I can say that they're quite close in feel chassis wise.
The bike itself is lovely.
Why it still wears a HD badge is perplexing, since 1/2 of the frame appears to be of that brand, the rest seems to come from other sources.
The list of other manufacturers supplying parts, seems rather large.
"Custom", I presume...
+1.
You do know Buell motors come from Harley-Davidson right? So the frame is HD...as is the engine...why not wear HD badging?
Swoop
27th June 2014, 15:37
You do know Buell motors come from Harley-Davidson right? So the frame is HD...as is the engine...why not wear HD badging?
Yes, I know the Buell company was purchased by HD.
The entire machine is a "bitser". Why not call it an MV because of the front forks?
Then again. A bit of a frame and a small tank...
Drew
27th June 2014, 15:39
It's cool as fuck. I'd love to have enough coin to make an XR1200 into an XR750 look'a'like.
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 15:44
Yes, I know the Buell company was purchased by HD.
The entire machine is a "bitser". Why not call it an MV because of the front forks?
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Same reason we don't call all Harleys *Showa's* simply because they have showa forks in em mate...and even before HD purchased Buell...Buell purchased the Sporty engines from HD obviously...so really...the things not really just a Harley? Seriously?
Big Dave
27th June 2014, 15:51
Yet again you have failed to get me to ride the "Short arse specific" bike model.
:sigh:
I'm sorry to hear this news regarding the lack of a Harley-Davidson Dealership/s in your city.
They won't allow a man of letters with a keen interest in the vehicles to evaluate one either.
They probably wouldn't even let him keep it for a day or two* even if he made the right noises.
(* See ref: 'Closes - Puppy Dog').
Big Dave
27th June 2014, 15:57
Just as well you didn't have to ride the 12 hundy. Fucking legs would be round ya head!
The blue Gonzo looked on:
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5511/14511008394_ae4f248930_z.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdavespics/14511008394)
Big Dave
27th June 2014, 15:59
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3885/14325726770_766a17f3c7_z.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdavespics/14325726770)
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2936/14489265626_bb47147a99_z.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdavespics/14489265626)
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3866/14489257896_8269ea609b_z.jpg (https://www.flickr.com/photos/bigdavespics/14489257896)
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 16:15
Here is a Harley-Davidson being raced by a man being paid by Harley-Davidson to do so. It has an XR750 engine in it. The rest...ain't Harley. But it is a Harley. Now we'll talk about Rossi's M1 Yamaha. It uses Ohlins susp, Webber Marelli electronics, Brembo brakes etc etc...is it a Yamaha?
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HenryDorsetCase
27th June 2014, 16:19
It's cool as fuck. I'd love to have enough coin to make an XR1200 into an XR750 look'a'like.
I've seen one online. Maybe Mule or something? Damn cool but crikey. bring $$$
Big Dave
27th June 2014, 16:30
Re the MT-01 - I'd be more inclined to build one in more of a Cafe Racer style. Reminiscent of a racing Vincent - Only with Flat bars and mid sets for the taller gentleman.
I'd also really like to do that with a 1700cc Thunderbird. Monster Cafe.
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 16:36
I'd also really like to do that with a 1700cc Thunderbird. Monster Cafe.
Rode one for the first time a couple of months ago. Fuck they're top heavy compared to a big block HD.
Drew
27th June 2014, 17:32
I've seen one online. Maybe Mule or something? Damn cool but crikey. bring $$$
This is close.
Motu
27th June 2014, 17:53
Here is a Harley-Davidson being raced by a man being paid by Harley-Davidson to do so. It has an XR750 engine in it. The rest...ain't Harley.
The original XR750 was built in the factory and sold on the floor, later it became a bike built from parts. Scott Parker won the no1 plate 9 times, this is my favorite photo of him. Racing doesn't get much closer.
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Stylo
27th June 2014, 18:02
Guess the old saying ' You can't polish a turd' has taken a new tack ?
Not bad
scumdog
27th June 2014, 18:06
Guess the old saying ' You can't polish a turd' has taken a new tack ?
Not bad
Meh, it ain't a turd - and it's cool!
HenryDorsetCase
27th June 2014, 18:11
Guess the old saying ' You can't polish a turd' has taken a new tack ?
Not bad
If you are ever in Dunedin the Harley dealer there has one. It is fabulous. I love all race bikes but that ones a bit special.
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 18:12
The original XR750 was built in the factory and sold on the floor, later it became a bike built from parts. Scott Parker won the no1 plate 9 times, this is my favorite photo of him. Racing doesn't get much closer.
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Yeah for sure. And I haven't seen that pic before...cheers! Awesome.
Drew
27th June 2014, 18:44
If you are ever in Dunedin the Harley dealer there has one. It is fabulous. I love all race bikes but that ones a bit special.
Which dealer does Harley down there now? Long time since I lived there.
Virago
27th June 2014, 18:45
McIver and Veitch.
Drew
27th June 2014, 18:53
McIver and Veitch.
They were just Honda when I was a lad I think.
Those in the know, did the XR750 heads ever make it onto anything for the masses? First time I've noticed the left exit exhaust just now.
Big Dave
27th June 2014, 19:09
Rode one for the first time a couple of months ago. Fuck they're top heavy compared to a big block HD.
Rode one last week - Thunderbird Commader Aus Launch.
Didn't find that at all. Just the opposite actually. The handling and road manners pleased me.
What was notable was how much better KYB suspension has become since my Thunderbird.
Probably a size thing.
Paul in NZ
27th June 2014, 19:13
FFS - its a picture of a bike I thought was kinda cool.... Jeeze I almost want to kill myself now...
HenryDorsetCase
27th June 2014, 19:24
FFS - its a picture of a bike I thought was kinda cool.... Jeeze I almost want to kill myself now...
Aw, come on now....
Big Dave
27th June 2014, 19:25
FFS - its a picture of a bike I thought was kinda cool.... Jeeze I almost want to kill myself now...
What bit of 'discussion forum' aren't you quite getting?
HenryDorsetCase
27th June 2014, 19:28
speaking of cool Harleys:
http://www.hotbikeweb.com/bikes/exclusive-first-look-speed-merchant-harley-street-500?src=soc&dom=fb
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 19:37
Rode one last week - Thunderbird Commader Aus Launch.
Didn't find that at all. Just the opposite actually. The handling and road manners pleased me.
What was notable was how much better KYB suspension has become since my Thunderbird.
Probably a size thing.
Lol. Size does matter! I don't think the parralell twin engine has the weight centered as low as the v-twin myself...same as the other geezers at work that rode it found. But you're such a tall/big fuck they're all easy to hoist up! Once on the road it was fine. Just getting it off the side stand took way more effort than a big twin I reckon.
Paul in NZ
27th June 2014, 19:51
What bit of 'discussion forum' aren't you quite getting?
Where does it say discussion forum?
Big Dave
27th June 2014, 20:00
Where does it say discussion forum?
In the binding, money-back contract.
I don't know what you mean Crasher. :-P
http://www.davidcohen.co/tbdc.jpg
Motu
27th June 2014, 20:01
Those in the know, did the XR750 heads ever make it onto anything for the masses? First time I've noticed the left exit exhaust just now.
The XR1000, hard to find a picture of a stock one because they were so damn ugly. HD just doesn't want to capitalise on the most winning bike in the world and make a streettracker. I have a picture of a friends XR1000, and it has stainless right hand low pipes !...???
http://www.classic-motorrad.de/galerie/albums/userpics/10018/hd_xr1000_1983.jpg
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 20:02
In the binding, money-back contract.
I don't know what you mean Crasher. :-P
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You make that look like a GR650 MoFo!
Drew
27th June 2014, 20:04
The XR1000, hard to find a picture of a stock one because they were so damn ugly. HD just doesn't want to capitalise on the most winning bike in the world and make a streettracker.
http://www.classic-motorrad.de/galerie/albums/userpics/10018/hd_xr1000_1983.jpg
Looks alright to me. Except for the tank.
New 500 looks promising.
ellipsis
27th June 2014, 20:11
...you can critique mine if yer all like...it's just a sporty, but it can handle it...
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac85/motorcycle-mania/Sportster.jpg (http://s888.photobucket.com/user/motorcycle-mania/media/Sportster.jpg.html)
GrayWolf
27th June 2014, 20:14
Re the MT-01 - I'd be more inclined to build one in more of a Cafe Racer style. Reminiscent of a racing Vincent - Only with Flat bars and mid sets for the taller gentleman.
I'd also really like to do that with a 1700cc Thunderbird. Monster Cafe.
Yamaha did just that, but didnt stage 2 or 3 it..... Stage 3 about 175nm and 110-115bhp
http://tinyurl.com/k4sdpss
http://tinyurl.com/qbwy5zl
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 20:24
...you can critique mine if yer all like...it's just a sporty, but it can handle it...
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Looks great mate! I'd move the pegs back if it were mine but...
ellipsis
27th June 2014, 20:37
...been leaning over the tank with legs back for so long racing, it's real nice to just sit on it Pete...
scumdog
27th June 2014, 20:43
The XR1000, hard to find a picture of a stock one because they were so damn ugly. HD just doesn't want to capitalise on the most winning bike in the world and make a streettracker. I have a picture of a friends XR1000, and it has stainless right hand low pipes !...???
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A bloody ripper!:love:
GrayWolf
27th June 2014, 20:45
Guess the simple answer is..... Bring back the XR1200X
THAT was a decent performing bike that I would have owned.
HenryDorsetCase
27th June 2014, 20:48
Guess the simple answer is..... Bring back the XR1200X
THAT was a decent performing bike that I would have owned.
http://mid.co.nz/?id=501
I had a look at that last Saturday. Quite the tidy unit. I will deliver it to you for a plane ticket home :)
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 20:51
...been leaning over the tank with legs back for so long racing, it's real nice to just sit on it Pete...
I hear ya mate!
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 20:52
Guess the simple answer is..... Bring back the XR1200X
THAT was a decent performing bike that I would have owned.
Unfortunately mate they simply didn't sell well enough.
GrayWolf
27th June 2014, 21:04
Unfortunately mate they simply didn't sell well enough.
and thats the crazy bit I just dont get, people bought Buel's, hot up big block HD's. HD bring out good 'fast' bike? Doesnt sell, go figure!!
Crasherfromwayback
27th June 2014, 21:06
and thats the crazy bit I just dont get, people bought Buel's, hot up big block HD's. HD bring out good 'fast' bike? Doesnt sell, go figure!!
I hear ya mate. I'm spewing I didn't buy one actually.
GrayWolf
27th June 2014, 21:06
http://mid.co.nz/?id=501
I had a look at that last Saturday. Quite the tidy unit. I will deliver it to you for a plane ticket home :)
Nah, got the MT-01, performance standard is pretty much the same, just one revs slow and torquey, the other is a bit more 'rev loving'.......
Swoop
28th June 2014, 20:03
... even before HD purchased Buell...Buell purchased the Sporty engines from HD obviously...so really...the things not really just a Harley? Seriously?
Up until 1995 they were purchased from HD. Two major engineering upgrades on the motors by Buell in 1995, and again in 1998, veer from the start point of the block and are certainly not "standard HD".
Crasherfromwayback
28th June 2014, 20:32
and are certainly not "standard HD".
Correct. On another note completely (well sort of)...I'd fucking love an XB12RR. Have been offered a ride on a mates one a couple of times at race meets...but I'm too scared to ride it in case I fuck it.
Crasherfromwayback
29th June 2014, 17:20
So just what does a genuine XR750 on full chat sound like? Like this of course...HORN!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=701914499879891&set=vb.125895807481766&type=2&theater
Motu
29th June 2014, 17:46
I see Nichole Mees in Harley leathers there, she normally has pink leathers - I hope she has a factory ride.
Crasherfromwayback
29th June 2014, 17:49
I see Nichole Mees in Harley leathers there, she normally has pink leathers - I hope she has a factory ride.
Yeah she just missed qual for the main at this round. Fuck me they're revving those things hard.
98tls
29th June 2014, 17:53
So just what does a genuine XR750 on full chat sound like? Like this of course...HORN!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=701914499879891&set=vb.125895807481766&type=2&theater
Enjoyed that clip cheers.
Ocean1
29th June 2014, 18:31
Correct. On another note completely (well sort of)...I'd fucking love an XB12RR. Have been offered a ride on a mates one a couple of times at race meets...but I'm too scared to ride it in case I fuck it.
!339cc and 150hp. Never seen one but there can't be much to making one shirly?
Heads will be stock, yes? Cylinders? Not much else is that hard to do mate.
Motu
29th June 2014, 18:53
Fuck me they're revving those things hard.
Love to hear a 2 valve pushrod twin going nuts - British twins, BMW twins, Harleys, it's a good noise going for it.
Crasherfromwayback
29th June 2014, 18:53
!339cc and 150hp. Never seen one but there can't be much to making one shirly?
Heads will be stock, yes? Cylinders? Not much else is that hard to do mate.
Prob not. But the factory ones are trick as fuck.
Crasherfromwayback
29th June 2014, 18:55
Love to hear a 2 valve pushrod twin going nuts - British twins, BMW twins, Harleys, it's a good noise going for it.
I'm guessing they're taking those XR's to around 9 grand.
AllanB
29th June 2014, 19:04
I read somewhere that EB's favourite bike was a Honda RS250 GP bike and that as near as possible the Buell geometry and wheelbase mimics that. they certainly are short and go well. I really liked the one I rode. But the bike I bought was that Honda Hornet 900: what swung it was same money but brand new and Honda reliability and new bike warranty.
Ha ditto. Got the Honda new a bit lower than the Buell. Figured I'd not afford any 'exotic' (ahem) issues if I Buelled.
ellipsis
29th June 2014, 19:29
...Steve Storz and his old man and bro were Norton racers on the dirt flat track, the parts he makes for sportsters as well as other shit for Ducatis is quite cool stuff, between him and his mate who makes the Cerianis have come up with some really nice bits...
http://www.storzperf.com/index.html
Motu
29th June 2014, 19:30
I'm guessing they're taking those XR's to around 9 grand.
My guess too, my R65 sounds good at 8,000rpm, but I used to take my T100C to 10,000rpm, it's a whole new level of screaming pain.
Crasherfromwayback
29th June 2014, 19:38
My guess too, my R65 sounds good at 8,000rpm, but I used to take my T100C to 10,000rpm, it's a whole new level of screaming pain.
Holy shit. I bet!!!
Ocean1
29th June 2014, 19:40
Prob not. But the factory ones are trick as fuck.
Here ya go: http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=829935
Most of the differences he's describing were carried over to the later XB12 engine. Don't think they splashed out on magnesium cases for the stock XB but most of the remaining differences are easy enough. Easy for an engine shop that is.
So there's your first excuse gone. Got any more?
Ocean1
29th June 2014, 19:46
...Steve Storz and his old man and bro were Norton racers on the dirt flat track, the parts he makes for sportsters as well as other shit for Ducatis is quite cool stuff, between him and his mate who makes the Cerianis have come up with some really nice bits...
http://www.storzperf.com/index.html
So they do too: 298444.
Crasherfromwayback
29th June 2014, 20:24
Here ya go: http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=829935
Most of the differences he's describing were carried over to the later XB12 engine. Don't think they splashed out on magnesium cases for the stock XB but most of the remaining differences are easy enough. Easy for an engine shop that is.
So there's your first excuse gone. Got any more?
Yep. A severe lack of moola.
Ocean1
29th June 2014, 20:46
Yep. A severe lack of moola.
Useless prick. You've still got marketable bodily organs, though eh? :laugh:
and thats the crazy bit I just dont get, people bought Buel's, hot up big block HD's. HD bring out good 'fast' bike? Doesnt sell, go figure!!
:psst: That's the success of marketing in the modern day I suppose. My sporty does it for me. I've spent more on it than what it would have cost me to get any big block I desired ,just on the improvements I wanted. Nothing from the "Wall of Chrome" either
( In my tiny mind anyway).
If I was a sane person I would have bought a Buell when they first arrived :facepalm: .
Would have cost a lot less but it would still be just a hardley to the knockers.
If I want all the technology I just get the MV out.
Truth is I still enjoy polishing the sporty more than I do trying to wash all that technology.
Each to his own aye
If you are ever in Dunedin the Harley dealer there has one. It is fabulous. I love all race bikes but that ones a bit special.
Here is an XR750 at Burt 2012. Think the Dude from High Country Motorcycles in Farlie was racing it.
This was a turbo at Paeroa, rather tasty I thort
Crasherfromwayback
29th June 2014, 22:34
Here is an XR750 at Burt 2012. Think the Dude from High Country Motorcycles in Farlie was racing it.
That ain't no XR mate.
Motu
29th June 2014, 23:11
Gotta be , it says so on the tank!
Drew
30th June 2014, 06:23
That ain't no XR mate.
Glad you said that, I was getting all confused because of the right exit pipes.
That turbo is fucken hideous, and would be way less efficient than it could be mounted so far away from the heads.
GrayWolf
30th June 2014, 15:10
:psst: That's the success of marketing in the modern day I suppose. My sporty does it for me. I've spent more on it than what it would have cost me to get any big block I desired ,just on the improvements I wanted. Nothing from the "Wall of Chrome" either
( In my tiny mind anyway).
If I was a sane person I would have bought a Buell when they first arrived :facepalm: .
Would have cost a lot less but it would still be just a hardley to the knockers.
If I want all the technology I just get the MV out.
Truth is I still enjoy polishing the sporty more than I do trying to wash all that technology.
Each to his own aye
I can understand that, there are guys in the MT group who have and do spend mega bucks, on the fancy parts... Mine is a 'homebrew' Stage 2, that does it for me!!
scumdog
30th June 2014, 15:51
Glad you said that, I was getting all confused because of the right exit pipes.
That turbo is fucken hideous, and would be way less efficient than it could be mounted so far away from the heads.
What the hell are they thinking?:crazy::crazy:
I've seen a tidy turbo set-up on a Sporty, it was mounted just on front of where the carb usually sits.
Drew
30th June 2014, 16:25
What the hell are they thinking?:crazy::crazy:
I've seen a tidy turbo set-up on a Sporty, it was mounted just on front of where the carb usually sits.
Yeah, there's tidy bolt on kits for them.
avgas
30th June 2014, 16:34
It's a heavily modified cruiser. Still has a cruiser engine.
Actually its not. As a "cruiser" engine V-twins are horrible. The shake and rattle.
A boxer 4 or inline 4 would be a better cruiser engine. Or boxer/inline 6.
The biggest and best "cruiser" cars were actually straight 8's.
avgas
30th June 2014, 16:41
Yamaha did just that, but didnt stage 2 or 3 it..... Stage 3 about 175nm and 110-115bhp
http://tinyurl.com/k4sdpss
http://tinyurl.com/qbwy5zl
Meh.....it lost some of its charm the original MT-OS had
http://www.diseno-art.com/images/yamaha_mt-os.jpg
SMOKEU
30th June 2014, 17:51
Actually its not. As a "cruiser" engine V-twins are horrible. The shake and rattle.
A boxer 4 or inline 4 would be a better cruiser engine. Or boxer/inline 6.
The biggest and best "cruiser" cars were actually straight 8's.
I've often thought the same thing.
Crasherfromwayback
30th June 2014, 22:10
Actually its not. As a "cruiser" engine V-twins are horrible. The shake and rattle.
A boxer 4 or inline 4 would be a better cruiser engine. Or boxer/inline 6.
The biggest and best "cruiser" cars were actually straight 8's.
I've often thought the same thing.
Have you two considered getting married? Because you're both talking utter shit.
Virago
30th June 2014, 22:18
I've often thought the same thing.
Just out of interest, how many cruisers have you actually ridden?
Kickaha
30th June 2014, 22:35
Just out of interest, how many cruisers have you actually ridden?
He doesn't have short little legs, so he doesn't need too
Motu
30th June 2014, 22:49
Someone offered me a ride on a big block - I could flat foot both boots, but couldn't reach the footpegs or handlebars !
SMOKEU
1st July 2014, 08:19
Just out of interest, how many cruisers have you actually ridden?
Never, they're too heavy for me.
Never, they're too heavy for me.
You might wanna hold back on offering opinion then.
A low revving twin is good in a cruiser. Big torque and slow revving is perfectly smooth enough when used for it's intended purpose.
A Harley will jump around at idle, but sitting at 1500-3000rpm they're happy as a pig in shit.
Crasherfromwayback
1st July 2014, 09:34
A Harley will jump around at idle, but sitting at 1500-3000rpm they're happy as a pig in shit.
Try the Softail with the balance shafts mate. Don't bounce around at all.
Try the Softail with the balance shafts mate. Don't bounce around at all.I like the way they walk of down the road when resting on the sidestand!
Crasherfromwayback
1st July 2014, 09:36
I like the way they walk of down the road when resting on the sidestand!
Softails don't Bro.
Softails don't Bro.That'd be a good reason for me not to get a soft tail.
It's a pity really. I'm too young to have capitalised on getting a 'shovel' before the price went bonkers.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-741311139.htm
Why haven't I won lotto yet?
Crasherfromwayback
1st July 2014, 09:43
That'd be a good reason for me not to get a soft tail.
It's a pity really. I'm too young to have capitalised on getting a 'shovel' before the price went bonkers.
Get a cheap Evo while you can then. They'll do the same eventually.
Get a cheap Evo while you can then. They'll do the same eventually.It's not quite that important to me.
One day perhaps.
Crasherfromwayback
1st July 2014, 09:46
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-741311139.htm
Why haven't I won lotto yet?
Yeah that's pretty cool.
HenryDorsetCase
1st July 2014, 11:51
Yeah that's pretty cool.
and yet you would need to spend another 20k on it at least to make it look proper.
those forks, wheels, seat, rear guard, rear shocks tank bars and gauges all have to go.
Crasherfromwayback
1st July 2014, 12:11
and yet you would need to spend another 20k on it at least to make it look proper.
those forks, wheels, seat, rear guard, rear shocks tank bars and gauges all have to go.
Fucking vandal.
Fucking vandal.
Wouldn't cost anywhere near twenty grand, and it's the route I'd be going. 750 rep is the only way I'd have it.
Crasherfromwayback
1st July 2014, 12:46
Wouldn't cost anywhere near twenty grand, and it's the route I'd be going. 750 rep is the only way I'd have it.
Fucking vandal.
Fucking vandal.
Would be too. Only way it'd happen is if someone else paid for it.
HenryDorsetCase
1st July 2014, 14:46
Fucking vandal.
also junk the frame and get a Trackmaster. Or get Richard Pollock to build you one.
So that leaves just the motor at this point that we have retained... its easy to spend another $20k on this. In fact lets buy this, yank the motor, and build our hypothetical bike around that. then sell the old shitter bits........
http://www.trackmasterracingframes.com/
http://www.trackmastermotorcycles.com/trackmaster-miler.html
but with the induction on the right and exhaust on the left.
or that buell XBRR motor, because at this point money is no object.
also junk the frame and get a Trackmaster. Or get Richard Pollock to build you one.
So that leaves just the motor at this point that we have retained... its easy to spend another $20k on this. In fact lets buy this, yank the motor, and build our hypothetical bike around that. then sell the old shitter bits........
http://www.trackmasterracingframes.com/
http://www.trackmastermotorcycles.com/trackmaster-miler.html
but with the induction on the right and exhaust on the left.
or that buell XBRR motor, because at this point money is no object.OK. You buy it, I'll race it.
HenryDorsetCase
1st July 2014, 14:57
OK. You buy it, I'll race it.
I think our racing team might have some money left over after the McIntosh.
I am calling it Team Knobsolete at this point for want of a better name. Thinking a sort of pink leathers/purple helmet, brown bike might be the go.
I think our racing team might have some money left over after the McIntosh.
I am calling it Team Knobsolete at this point for want of a better name. Thinking a sort of pink leathers/purple helmet, brown bike might be the go.
Let me ride the McIntosh, I'll wear what ever you bloody want!
Crasherfromwayback
1st July 2014, 15:53
I think our racing team might have some money left over after the McIntosh.
I am calling it Team Knobsolete at this point for want of a better name. Thinking a sort of pink leathers/purple helmet, brown bike might be the go.
You'd best let me ride the HOG mate. Drew can fuck off. Do it.
Fucking vandal.
Got rid of those stupid high left pipes - check. Got rid of the silly seat - check. Put on some decent bars - check. Put the footpegs where they should be on a real Harley - check. The perfect XR1000.
298629
You'd best let me ride the HOG mate. Drew can fuck off. Do it.
Knock yourself out. I've been named as the rider on the McIntosh.
roogazza
2nd July 2014, 08:43
Would be too. Only way it'd happen is if someone else paid for it.
Without being rude you guys never seem to have any money ?
What do you do with it ? snort it !
298662 Here's a nice one . :devil2:
Without being rude you guys never seem to have any money ?
What do you do with it ? snort it !:You'd think so. I get by, but expendable income is not what it once was.
roogazza
2nd July 2014, 09:30
You'd think so. I get by, but expendable income is not what it once was.
Kids will do that ! or a wife that buys shoes. I just moved house and the bloody shoe boxes !!!!
She does manage a shoe shop so it figures I guess.
Kids will do that ! or a wife that buys shoes. I just moved house and the bloody shoe boxes !!!!
She does manage a shoe shop so it figures I guess.
So you're a kept man? You lucky bastard!
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