Sex on wheels. Yours for $60k

[HenryDorsetCase]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-748563254.htm

Lets form a club: ten members at $10k a time. Find a decent rider and go classic bike racing. Fun and hot bitches for all.

[Gremlin]

Lets form a club: ten members at $10k a time.
But he's only asking $60k? :wacko:

[jellywrestler]

i found the original fairings molds for this when it was being restored, under the marton racecourse grandstand, since carey larkin died on it at gracefield it only had later ones on it, was great to track em down and get em over to aussie to get the bike back to how it once was.

[BigAl]

Grant Dalton may be interested :shutup:

[HenryDorsetCase]

But he's only asking $60k? :wacko:

We need $40k in the kitty for pitcrew, hot bitches, Jack Daniels and coke. also transport and stuff. My flatbed trailer won't cut it in the high stakes world of classic motorbike racing.

Your $10k is only the start, there'll be a monthly levy as well.

I'm kinda going for a Team Obsolete type vibe.

[HenryDorsetCase]

i found the original fairings molds for this when it was being restored, under the marton racecourse grandstand, since carey larkin died on it at gracefield it only had later ones on it, was great to track em down and get em over to aussie to get the bike back to how it once was.

Remember the one that was nicked a couple years back then recovered in bits? Is it finished do you know?

[Big Dog]

But he's only asking $60k? :wacko:

What? You thought the going racing part was free?

Clearly he has allocated 10k for promo girls.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[HenryDorsetCase]

What? You thought the going racing part was free?

Clearly he has allocated 10k for promo girls.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

one stunner at ten k
two OK at five k each
ten ugly but willing at a grand a time.

[jellywrestler]

We need $40k in the kitty for pitcrew, hot bitches, Jack Daniels and coke. also transport and stuff. My flatbed trailer won't cut it in the high stakes world of classic motorbike racing.

Your $10k is only the start, there'll be a monthly levy as well.

I'm kinda going for a Team Obsolete type vibe.

what about 17inch wheels?

[Drew]

Reputation be fucked, I'm real handy on the old and ill handling. How do I get my name submitted to test as the rider?

[swarfie]

Reputation be fucked, I'm real handy on the old and ill handling. How do I get my name submitted to test as the rider?

Line up behind me...ya young whippersnapper :bleh:

[HenryDorsetCase]

what about 17inch wheels?

not a fan. Treaded Avons on 19 x 2.75 front, 19 x 3.25 rear. Spoked, natch.

though that may look a bit weird on that particular bike. Not to mention be somewhat ill handling.

[Drew]

Line up behind me...ya young whippersnapper :bleh:

Bugger off. What would you be racing for? Fresh depends at the finish line?

[unstuck]

Wrong color.:sick:

[swarfie]

Bugger off. What would you be racing for? Fresh depends at the finish line?

Oh Andrew...go back to school...that sentence makes no sense. And in case you didn't know I've only been classic racing for 34 years and not only on 3 wheeled simmer-frames :scooter:

[Big Dog]

one stunner at ten k
two OK at five k each
ten ugly but willing at a grand a time.

Some teams at the v8s had more than 10 lol.



Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[HenryDorsetCase]

At this point (see the Sportster Love thread) the team name is "Team Knobsolete" and Drew is going to be rocking our pink leathers, purple helmet, brown bike livery.

[Drew]

Fucken sweet!

[nodrog]

..... I've only been classic racing for 34 years.....

Dude it was just called racing back then.

[jellywrestler]

not a fan. Treaded Avons on 19 x 2.75 front, 19 x 3.25 rear. Spoked, natch.

though that may look a bit weird on that particular bike. Not to mention be somewhat ill handling.

that'll be running 18's

[Laava]

So that will be $60k aussie plus shipping?

[Big Dave]

Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.

[Maha]

Nice touch having Hiscock sit on the bike for the photo shoot.

[ozman]

So that will be $60k aussie plus shipping?



60k NZ plus shipping
as the advert says payable to ken mcintosh

ozman

[sidecar bob]

i found the original fairings molds for this when it was being restored, under the marton racecourse grandstand

Why were they there, & possibly far more interesting, what made you think to look there?
Or did you wake up there from a hard night at Manfield after trying to hitch hike home in the wrong direction & think, WTF, these are some rare as all fuck fairing moulds ive been sleeping under?

[skippa1]

Why were they there, & possibly far more interesting, what made you think to look there?
Or did you wake up there from a hard night at Manfield after trying to hitch hike home in the wrong direction & think, WTF, these are some rare as all fuck fairing moulds ive been sleeping under?
That shit happens all the time

[Bikemad]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL2DH-nKBeA

[Kickaha]

Or did you wake up there from a hard night at Manfield after trying to hitch hike home in the wrong direction & think, WTF, these are some rare as all fuck fairing moulds ive been sleeping under?
That would be the most likely scenario

[AllanB]

$60k ............. it's not like it's a Britten. Must be a very small market in NZ for this type of thing.

[ozman]

$60k ............. it's not like it's a Britten. Must be a very small market in NZ for this type of thing.


correct its not a Britten

its the 2nd McIntosh built
its the bike dave hiscock rode to 14th on debut in the TT F1 at the isle of man
its the bike dave hiscock rode in the 1981 British formula one championship
it is the bike dave hiscock won the 81/82 NZ F1 title on
it is the bike bob toomey rode and won on
it is the bike robert holden rode and won on
its a unique part of NZ racing history there's only 1 of this bike but your right its not a Britten
ITS A MCINTOSH :wings::wings::wings:

ozman

[sidecar bob]

correct its not a Britten

its the 2nd McIntosh built
its the bike dave hiscock rode to 14th on debut in the TT F1 at the isle of man
its the bike dave hiscock rode in the 1981 British formula one championship
it is the bike dave hiscock won the 81/82 NZ F1 title on
it is the bike bob toomey rode and won on
it is the bike robert holden rode and won on
its a unique part of NZ racing history there's only 1 of this bike but your right its not a Britten
ITS A MCINTOSH :wings::wings::wings:

ozman

No, its not a Britten. As Kevin Grant said, the Britten "cost me about as much as a house" & I doubt he was talking about a house in Tamuranui.

[HenryDorsetCase]

$60k ............. it's not like it's a Britten. Must be a very small market in NZ for this type of thing.

A Britten would be, what, $500k? A millon plus with any sort of provenance? When was the last time one was sold and how much?

Hmmmm my mission for this morning.

[roogazza]

correct its not a Britten

its the 2nd McIntosh built
its the bike dave hiscock rode to 14th on debut in the TT F1 at the isle of man
its the bike dave hiscock rode in the 1981 British formula one championship
it is the bike dave hiscock won the 81/82 NZ F1 title on
it is the bike bob toomey rode and won on
it is the bike robert holden rode and won on
its a unique part of NZ racing history there's only 1 of this bike but your right its not a Britten
ITS A MCINTOSH :wings::wings::wings:

ozman

Have ya rung Dave ? Although I dunno if he bothers with bikes and shit now ?

[sidecar bob]

correct its not a Britten

its the 2nd McIntosh built
its the bike dave hiscock rode to 14th on debut in the TT F1 at the isle of man
its the bike dave hiscock rode in the 1981 British formula one championship
it is the bike dave hiscock won the 81/82 NZ F1 title on
it is the bike bob toomey rode and won on
it is the bike robert holden rode and won on
its a unique part of NZ racing history there's only 1 of this bike but your right its not a Britten
ITS A MCINTOSH :wings::wings::wings:

ozman
Dont worry mate, the biggest opinions always seem to have the smallest wallets. Thats why I dont sell my cool shit on Trademe.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Dont worry mate, the biggest opinions always seem to have the smallest wallets. Thats why I dont sell my cool shit on Trademe.

words of wisdom.

PS what cool shit have you got for sale?

[nodrog]

words of wisdom.

PS what cool shit have you got for sale?

He has already sold the coolest thing he had, to me.

[Voltaire]

Yep that replaces my previous favourite TM 60K bike :lol:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-603356742.htm
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/11/132068111_full.jpg

I would have thought bikes like the Suzuki would sell by word of mouth.

[sidecar bob]

words of wisdom.

PS what cool shit have you got for sale?
Id hate to blow my cover on that one, but its in my lounge & appears to be sold with one phone call to the right bloke.
I wasnt picking on you, but check this out. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=746979308 Every retarded stoner has their fiddy cents worth, but none of them even had $1500 for what appears to be a reasonable bike.
Although if you really want to deal with idiots, selling a tired old ZZR1100 is probably the best magnet for dreamers.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yep that replaces my previous favourite TM 60K bike :lol:


I would have thought bikes like the Suzuki would sell by word of mouth.

I dunno man: someone might actually buy the Suzuki for $60k or thereabouts. No one in the world is interested in that - he has been trying to sell it for what, two years?

[imdying]

Seems like a poor investment, everybody who cares about it is likely to be dead in the not too distant future :-/

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yep that replaces my previous favourite TM 60K bike :lol:
.

Fuck that guy is a fucking shit spinner eh! Love his feedback too...

[BigAl]

Seems like a poor investment, everybody who cares about it is likely to be dead in the not too distant future :-/

:lol::clap:

[imdying]

Fuck that guy is a fucking shit spinner eh! Love his feedback too...Mmmm... I don't think Dave would be hard to fuck... I'd wager he isn't giving the IRD theirs, and they don't like that.


:lol::clap:I don't know whether that's actually a good thing... Wouldn't take much neglect to fuck it. Occurred to me regarding the Britten comment. The Britten hasn't got the racing heritage, but has a bigger base that it appeals to.

[ozman]

Seems like a poor investment, everybody who cares about it is likely to be dead in the not too distant future :-/




i think your writing us off abit early........ eg if you were early 20s when this raced you would be early 50s now and you consider that old o.0 like ken the builder is only about 60 now !!!

ozman

plenty of life left in us so called old cunts yet ...ageing disgracefully

[HenryDorsetCase]

i think your writing us off abit early........ eg if you were early 20s when this raced you would be early 50s now and you consider that old o.0 like ken the builder is only about 60 now !!!

ozman

plenty of life left in us so called old cunts yet ...ageing disgracefully

fairly sure he was talking about the dreamer wanting $60k for that "Collectible" Hardly Ableson.

[AllanB]

Seems like a poor investment, everybody who cares about it is likely to be dead in the not too distant future :-/

Sounds sick but it may be worth it if death was a factor .......... look how much the Britten increases in value after he died :shutup:


It's worth what anyone is prepared to pay I guess. But I'd suggest ones money would be better invested in motorcycledom if a retirement payout is expected.

I once owned a cool Puch moped that we'd made a expansion chamber for - went bloody well. Unfortunately I have yet to become famous so if it still exists it is probably of limited value.

You'd have to be prepared to risk a big loss investing - just look how much I have lost on that Rolf Harris signed didgeridoo shaped dildo I purchased years back. Still in it's original box if anyone is interested ......

[Big Dog]

Sounds sick but it may be worth it if death was a factor .......... look how much the Britten increases in value after he died :shutup:


It's worth what anyone is prepared to pay I guess. But I'd suggest ones money would be better invested in motorcycledom if a retirement payout is expected.

I once owned a cool Puch moped that we'd made a expansion chamber for - went bloody well. Unfortunately I have yet to become famous so if it still exists it is probably of limited value.

You'd have to be prepared to risk a big loss investing - just look how much I have lost on that Rolf Harris signed didgeridoo shaped dildo I purchased years back. Still in it's original box if anyone is interested ......

Are you suggesting he autographed your dildo while it was still in your box back when you were a young man?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[AllanB]

Are you suggesting he autographed your dildo while it was still in your box back when you were a young man?

Would it be worth more if I said yes?

On a side note of no reference at all to the OP, what a shame old Harris is a pedo. Many a memory of his Christmas shows etc :facepalm:

[ozman]

Would it be worth more if I said yes?

On a side note of no reference at all to the OP, what a shame old Harris is a pedo. Many a memory of his Christmas shows etc :facepalm:


THEY SAY YOUR ONLY AS OLD AS YOUR FEELING.......IN THAT CASE ROLFS ABOUT 15

it kinda shatters the childhood memorys of the wobble board and paintbrush artwork :(

[imdying]

i think your writing us off abit early........ eg if you were early 20s when this raced you would be early 50s now and you consider that old o.0 like ken the builder is only about 60 now !!!

ozman

plenty of life left in us so called old cunts yet ...ageing disgracefullyI don't want to sound too depressing, but you (people interesting in buying that motorcycle) might not have as long as you think... 71 is the average age of death for males in NZ, which means there must be people younger than that dying off.

[roogazza]

I don't want to sound too depressing, but you (people interesting in buying that motorcycle) might not have as long as you think... 71 is the average age of death for males in NZ, which means there must be people younger than that dying off.
Fuck I'm feeling quite mortal now. My eldest son on my last birthday announced in front of everyone,
"do you realise you'll be eighty in 15 yrs " !!!!!!
wife was quick tho,and "you'll be 50 " !!
Still worth a thought,go for a ride !!

[ozman]

I don't want to sound too depressing, but you (people interesting in buying that motorcycle) might not have as long as you think... 71 is the average age of death for males in NZ, which means there must be people younger than that dying off.



rest assured this also means alot of males live past 71

party on !

ozman

[Dreama]

Sounds sick but it may be worth it if death was a factor .......... look how much the Britten increases in value after he died :shutup:


It's worth what anyone is prepared to pay I guess. But I'd suggest ones money would be better invested in motorcycledom if a retirement payout is expected.

I once owned a cool Puch moped that we'd made a expansion chamber for - went bloody well. Unfortunately I have yet to become famous so if it still exists it is probably of limited value.

You'd have to be prepared to risk a big loss investing - just look how much I have lost on that Rolf Harris signed didgeridoo shaped dildo I purchased years back. Still in it's original box if anyone is interested ......

I wonder if he had anything to do with those "Harris Bonnies" .... I felt that I'd been well and truly screwed very shortly after I got one way back. Might count in a 'historical rogering' case against him.

[imdying]

rest assured this also means alot of males live past 71

party on !

ozmanThis is true! Still, long term the best place for this might now be in a museum like Southwards?

[jellywrestler]

This is true! Still, long term the best place for this might now be in a museum like Southwards?

get fucked, they have a prewar class at classic races these days so what's to stop it being out there on the track for the next 50 years at least? people may not remember it but they'll soon learn about it and it's place in history.

[imdying]

get fucked, they have a prewar class at classic races these days so what's to stop it being out there on the track for the next 50 years at least? people may not remember it but they'll soon learn about it and it's place in history.Because it's a motorcycle and easy to fuck? It's either a play toy to take classic racing, or a piece of history worth preserving; it can't be both.

[TheDemonLord]

Because it's a motorcycle and easy to fuck? It's either a play toy to take classic racing, or a piece of history worth preserving; it can't be both.

Anything that is old is easy to fuck, but that said - there is a world of difference between having a smooth ride round a racetrack for a couple of laps and going all Rossi and getting your knee and shoulder down in the corners.

Ultimately it comes down to the person at the controls and whether they are racing to win, or racing to preserve history.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Anything that is old is easy to fuck, but that said - there is a world of difference between having a smooth ride round a racetrack for a couple of laps and going all Rossi and getting your knee and shoulder down in the corners.

Ultimately it comes down to the person at the controls and whether they are racing to win, or racing to preserve history.

if they are really old and valuable they dont race them, they "parade" them. I'm all for it because a motorcycle is only a motorcyle if it moves under its own power, preferably in anger. Otherwise it may as well not have engine internals (or if it has a fairing, an engine at all) its just another piece of fucking furniture you have to dust.

[nodrog]

How can you fuck it? All parts are still availiable, ive probably tripped over 80% of tbe parts in the last week.

And ken would probably make you another one if you are rich enough.

[imdying]

Anything that is old is easy to fuckI have some old cannon balls that predate New Zealand... I'd like to see you fuck those :laugh:


How can you fuck it?Cartwheel it at 100mph? Having a refilling accident and set it on fire? Use your imagination...


All parts are still availiable, ive probably tripped over 80% of tbe parts in the last week. So? How many of those parts won an IOM TT? Because without that novelty it's hardly worth anything.


And ken would probably make you another one if you are rich enough.No, he can't. He can make you a mighty fine replica I'm sure, but if it hasn't got the heritage, then (compared to what that same money could buy you) all you have is an ugly, slow, out of date piece of crap.

[sidecar bob]

Because it's a motorcycle and easy to fuck? It's either a play toy to take classic racing, or a piece of history worth preserving; it can't be both.

I think you need to attend a few more CMCRR meetings, where you barely notice some bloke thrashing an Egli Vincent anymore.

[nodrog]

I have some old cannon balls that predate New Zealand... I'd like to see you fuck those :laugh:

Cartwheel it at 100mph? Having a refilling accident and set it on fire? Use your imagination...

So? How many of those parts won an IOM TT? Because without that novelty it's hardly worth anything.

No, he can't. He can make you a mighty fine replica I'm sure, but if it hasn't got the heritage, then (compared to what that same money could buy you) all you have is an ugly, slow, out of date piece of crap.

I forgot that that bike had never been crashed, or had any parts replaced.

The point is, you could race that bike for another 30 years and it wont be worth any less.

I dare you to ring ken and ask how much a new complete bike will cost.

[sidecar bob]

I forgot that that bike had never been crashed, or had any parts replaced.

The point is, you could race that bike for another 30 years and it wont be worth any less.

I dare you to ring ken and ask how much a new complete bike will cost.

I can tell you the one that Cam Donald rides apparently cost the owners aprox 11 times what my fairly sorted pre '82 GSX1100 racer that Jay won Wanganui & Paeroa on cost me.
Its pretty simple, this Mac is worth at least the asking price.

[ozman]

ken is currently rebuilting the freeth bike that was stolen and chopped up, he is repairing the frame and swingarm so they will still be the same parts as was ridden by roger

btw a frame kit( frame, swingarm, bodywork, triple clamps and rearsets no wheels, suspension or brakes etc) is available new from ken for 20k NZ

ozman

[HenryDorsetCase]

I think you need to attend a few more CMCRR meetings, where you barely notice some bloke thrashing an Egli Vincent anymore.

if it was something cool like a Honda 6 then it would be worth a second look

[HenryDorsetCase]

I have some old cannon balls that predate New Zealand... I'd like to see you fuck those :laugh:



Drill a hole in it son, I'll give it a go. three inch diameter and nine inches deep. :) got any bacon fat handy?

[Crasherfromwayback]

You'd have to be prepared to risk a big loss investing - just look how much I have lost on that Rolf Harris signed didgeridoo shaped dildo I purchased years back. Still in it's original box if anyone is interested ......




On a side note of no reference at all to the OP, what a shame old Harris is a pedo. Many a memory of his Christmas shows etc :facepalm:


THEY SAY YOUR ONLY AS OLD AS YOUR FEELING.......IN THAT CASE ROLFS ABOUT 15

it kinda shatters the childhood memorys of the wobble board and paintbrush artwork :(

Someone mention Rolf?

298686

[ozman]

Drill a hole in it son, I'll give it a go. three inch diameter and nine inches deep. :) got any bacon fat handy?



why do you need 6 inchs extra clearance to the bottom of the hole ? is that filled with bacon fat ?
im puzzled

ozman

[sidecar bob]

btw a frame kit( frame, swingarm, bodywork, triple clamps and rearsets no wheels, suspension or brakes etc) is available new from ken for 20k NZ

ozman

In other words, the cheapest part of the build is 20k.
P.S Ozman, does the GS motor still have the twin plug head on it?

[HenryDorsetCase]

why do you need 6 inchs extra clearance to the bottom of the hole ? is that filled with bacon fat ?
im puzzled

ozman

I put a bread roll down there and get it nice and warm plus it is tasty with all the bacon fat.

everybody knows this I thought....

[Voltaire]

if it was something cool like a Honda 6 then it would be worth a second look

Egli Vincent Vs CBX 1000 round HD, that would be worth watching.

With Ken fixing up old Jappers does that mean they will let them in the CMCRR clubhouse anytime soon, I rather watch them than some of

those old pre war bikes zzzzzzzzzzz:laugh:

[swarfie]

Egli Vincent Vs CBX 1000 round HD, that would be worth watching.

With Ken fixing up old Jappers does that mean they will let them in the CMCRR clubhouse anytime soon, I rather watch them than some of

those old pre war bikes zzzzzzzzzzz:laugh:

Try riding one of those zzzzzzzzzzzz pre-war bikes some time. They might be slow..ish but they more fun than a barrel of monkeys to ride :eek:

[ozman]

if it was something cool like a Honda 6 then it would be worth a second look


something like this one of mine ?? great bikes but never achieved much on the racetrack for obvious reasons

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/271535275794?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_860wt_922

ozman

[HenryDorsetCase]

something like this one of mine ?? great bikes but never achieved much on the racetrack for obvious reasons

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/271535275794?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_860wt_922

ozman

$9k seems to be not bad buying to me. And that is the one (in either that colour or the red) to have.

some cool shit being sold in Straya: this is about my speed i reckon:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HONDA-Dream-50R-brand-new/191228976996?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D1%26 asc%3D20140122130056%26meid%3D8043638916488672156% 26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D20140122130056%26rk%3D4%26r kt%3D24%26sd%3D271535275794

[Voltaire]

Try riding one of those zzzzzzzzzzzz pre-war bikes some time. They might be slow..ish but they more fun than a barrel of monkeys to ride :eek:

Your not painting a good picture of fun in Hamilton.

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100921221532/pixar/images/c/c2/Barrel_of_Monkeys_(Yellow_Barrel)_toy.jpg

[sidecar bob]

Try riding one of those zzzzzzzzzzzz pre-war bikes some time. They might be slow..ish but they more fun than a barrel of monkeys to ride :eek:

But are they more fun than a bed full of slappers?

[imdying]

I think you need to attend a few more CMCRR meetings, where you barely notice some bloke thrashing an Egli Vincent anymore.Whether somebody puts an Egli in the paddock doesn't have any bearing on whether this bike is being put at risk or not.


I forgot that that bike had never been crashed, or had any parts replaced.

The point is, you could race that bike for another 30 years and it wont be worth any less.On the contrary... if the major parts (frame, block) of this bike differ from those that won the TT, then this isn't even the same bike, and then has become nothing more than curio, and not at face value worth the asking. Otherwise what is to stop the builder popping another out, with no more than a single part that was at the TT, and then selling that as 'original'?

What is considered 'major parts', and where the line is drawn between "yes it's that bike", or "no it's now something else", has to be at the discretion of the buyer, of course.

[HenryDorsetCase]

On the contrary... if the major parts (frame, block) of this bike differ from those that won the TT, then this isn't even the same bike, and then has become nothing more than curio, and not at face value worth the asking. Otherwise what is to stop the builder popping another out, with no more than a single part that was at the TT, and then selling that as 'original'?

What is considered 'major parts', and where the line is drawn between "yes it's that bike", or "no it's now something else", has to be at the discretion of the buyer, of course.

If you follow the UK classic racing scene (I don't really) its something they struggle with a bit. I read quite a good article on it in a CLASSIC RACER mag a while ago.

[imdying]

If you follow the UK classic racing scene (I don't really) its something they struggle with a bit. I read quite a good article on it in a CLASSIC RACER mag a while ago.I'm not surprised... you can't have your cake and eat it. You either want to keep it original and a worthy artifact thus you garage/display/preserve it, or bugger the heritage and you race it as the good lord intended. The latter would be my preferred option; as I mentioned before, the people who appreciate this haven't got that many years left... and after that, who will really appreciate it? That and it's a bike, not a painting.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm not surprised... you can't have your cake and eat it. You either want to keep it original and a worthy artifact thus you garage/display/preserve it, or bugger the heritage and you race it as the good lord intended. The latter would be my preferred option; as I mentioned before, the people who appreciate this haven't got that many years left... and after that, who will really appreciate it? That and it's a bike, not a painting.

Whilst my SR500 works bike will never be worth huge money...it's certainly worth quite good coin. But I CERTAINLY intend to race it. Tis what the cunting thing was built for after all.

[sidecar bob]

Whether somebody puts an Egli in the paddock doesn't have any bearing on whether this bike is being put at risk or not.


Your origonal argument (I think it was, it keeps moving about a bit) was that you cant have a valuable classic & a classic race bike in the same bike, the vincent was merely evidence that you can. Clearly we will have to agree to disagree.

[imdying]

Whilst my SR500 works bike will never be worth huge money...it's certainly worth quite good coin. But I CERTAINLY intend to race it. Tis what the cunting thing was built for after all.
Your origonal argument (I think it was, it keeps moving about a bit) was that you cant have a valuable classic & a classic race bike in the same bike, the vincent was merely evidence that you can. Clearly we will have to agree to disagree.It was that it can't be both a play toy and a piece of history worth preserving. That of course is wrong when considered literally, of course you can race it even though it's a piece of history worth preserving!

Of course once you fuck it, it's longer something you can race, or preserve. Is that a tragedy or just the way of it? Depends on your perspective and only the man putting the money down gets to decide that...

My perspective is that given those that care aren't going to be here forever, why not thrash it.

[sidecar bob]

The car guys make the bike guys look like amateurs. We see a bit of F5000 racing here, but the priceless artefacts that get raced overseas is absolutely astonishing. They work on the theory that it will always be worth repairing, because it will never cost as much to fix as it is worth.
U tube a bit of historic car racing & have a look for yourselves.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The car guys make the bike guys look like amateurs. We see a bit of F5000 racing here, but the priceless artefacts that get raced overseas is absolutely astonishing. They work on the theory that it will always be worth repairing, because it will never cost as much to fix as it is worth.
U tube a bit of historic car racing & have a look for yourselves.

a guy I know who raced an historic open wheeler (a small one - formula junior) had a mate with a f5000, and his theory was every time you walk past it in the garage put ten grand on the seat because you will spend that every time it turns a wheel.....

They are fabulous machines though.

[jellywrestler]

How can you fuck it? All parts are still availiable, ive probably tripped over 80% of tbe parts in the last week.

And ken would probably make you another one if you are rich enough.

not GS1000R cases, but most of the other stuff is, The plastic fantastic is fitted with factory very very limited edition forks, don't think there's anything special about the forks on this bike though

[jellywrestler]

No, he can't. He can make you a mighty fine replica I'm sure, but if it hasn't got the heritage, then (compared to what that same money could buy you) all you have is an ugly, slow, out of date piece of crap.

clearly you haven't seen cam donald on the mcintosh in recent times in nz, doesn't seem out of date to me

[jellywrestler]

On the contrary... if the major parts (frame, block) of this bike differ from those that won the TT,

this bike never won an IOMTT so no idea where that notion came from...

[ozman]

Cam managed to break the eastern creek lap record 3 times recently on a ugly, slow, out of date piece of crap
ummm go figure that one out ... must all be rider ability

:motu::motu::motu:

ozman

[ozman]

this bike never won an IOTT so no idea where that notion came from...

thats correct dave came 14th in the TT F1 on his first outing to the IOM not to bad i reckon

[roogazza]

thats correct dave came 14th in the TT F1 on his first outing to the IOM not to bad i reckon
I remember dave saying 'come over with me' around that time.But I didn't,I just become a dad for the 27th time.(well it felt like it!)
Funny but I recall the Alloy and plastic more as his bikes ?
Hey, its 35 yrs ! Good luck.<_<

[Voltaire]

You don't need an authentic old bike to go classic racing, just build a replica , no one will notice.

[swarfie]

You don't need an authentic old bike to go classic racing, just build a replica , no one will notice.

Yep, most of them are replicas and the powers that be even ban or move the some of the genuine ones out of classes that they were previously eligible for...how the hell is that fair?

As far as this Zuki is concerned...race the bloody thing, that's what it was built for. If it gets trashed, rebuild it. It looks to me that that's what has happened to it anyway, it's obviously been rebuilt or restored, and by the looks of it to a good standard. Like I've always said "if it has been made by man, it can be remade by man". Never stopped me racing or wearing out my old bangers.

[ozman]

i doubt theres a single racebike in the world thats is exactly as it was first produced unless it was never started

racebikes by their very nature get modified to go faster, to handle better, rebuilt as they wear out, repaired after crashs, changed to suit different riders, restored because of age etc

thats life

btw i see no reason this bike couldnt be raced, if i was going to i would drop out the 1000 engine drop in a 1200cc plus 8 valve (rules are different now to then) and have a ball while preserving the GS1000R engine


ozman

or i could dust this one off

http://i1026.photobucket.com/albums/y322/Ozman-gs/my%20bikes/my%20bikes%201/specials009_zps2dd709d4.jpg (http://s1026.photobucket.com/user/Ozman-gs/media/my%20bikes/my%20bikes%201/specials009_zps2dd709d4.jpg.html)

[jellywrestler]

i doubt theres a single racebike in the world thats is exactly as it was first produced unless it was never started

racebikes by their very nature get modified to go faster, to handle better, rebuilt as they wear out, repaired after crashs, changed to suit different riders, restored because of age etc

thats life

btw i see no reason this bike couldnt be raced, if i was going to i would drop out the 1000 engine drop in a 1200cc plus 8 valve (rules are different now to then) and have a ball while preserving the GS1000R engine


ozman

why bother with 1200cc, wouldn't you be better to fit better sized rims?
do you have the tailpeice that was used at the isle of man?

[ozman]

why bother with 1200cc, wouldn't you be better to fit better sized rims?
do you have the tailpeice that was used at the isle of man?

because every period 5 bike here seems to be 1200 or bigger and yes its stating the obvious that a switch to 17 inch wheels would be the go if one was serious

[sidecar bob]

i doubt theres a single racebike in the world thats is exactly as it was first produced unless it was never started

racebikes by their very nature get modified to go faster, to handle better, rebuilt as they wear out, repaired after crashs, changed to suit different riders, restored because of age etc

That is an absolute fact.
I am currently doing a full resto on Kasper, the ex Bill Biber K100rs that raced in the 80's.
By far the most difficult part was deciding what era to build it to.
As of now I have not turned up two pictures of the bike that show it exactly the same.

[Kickaha]

As of now I have not turned up two pictures of the bike that show it exactly the same.
I can send you two pictures of it that show it exacatly the same, but that's probably because they were only taken about a minute apart

[HenryDorsetCase]

You don't need an authentic old bike to go classic racing, just build a replica , no one will notice.

Manx norton please. Cartridge forks, modern rubber in old sizes, modern but old looking shocks. short stroke big bore motor and six speed gearbox. left foot shift.

[jellywrestler]

That is an absolute fact.
I am currently doing a full resto on Kasper, the ex Bill Biber K100rs that raced in the 80's.
By far the most difficult part was deciding what era to build it to.
As of now I have not turned up two pictures of the bike that show it exactly the same.

do what i did and picked a day it ran and restored my bike to that , as luck would have it some time later some posters turned up of that very day, and the very same leathers which were only ever used twice then put away.

[malcy25]

correct its not a Britten

its the 2nd McIntosh built
its the bike dave hiscock rode to 14th on debut in the TT F1 at the isle of man
its the bike dave hiscock rode in the 1981 British formula one championship
it is the bike dave hiscock won the 81/82 NZ F1 title on
it is the bike bob toomey rode and won on
it is the bike robert holden rode and won on
its a unique part of NZ racing history there's only 1 of this bike but your right its not a Britten
ITS A MCINTOSH :wings::wings::wings:

ozman

Small correction, 2nd Suzuki McIntosh built (not second McIntosh).....there were from what can recall about 9 TZs, and probably 2-3 kawasakis built before that plus the Vincent etc.

$60k guys. In the big scheme is a big number, but in reality of this stuff, very realistic...if you want to build a big Suzuki f1 style postie race bike, that's the number you would expect to pay and not have any of the history.

Osman, hope you get the price and a kiwi buys it.

I hope they then use it or put a good rider on it. :shifty:

[Voltaire]

Manx norton please. Cartridge forks, modern rubber in old sizes, modern but old looking shocks. short stroke big bore motor and six speed gearbox. left foot shift.



That Suzuki would come up nice with a few tweeks http://www.suzuki-classic.de/i/umbau/umbau_gs1000_fighting3.jpg :bleh:

[jellywrestler]

Small correction, 2nd Suzuki McIntosh built (not second McIntosh).....there were from what can recall about 9 TZs, and probably 2-3 kawasakis built before that plus the Vincent etc.

dalls rankin, mike green and murray cross's kawasakis are still around and don't forget the mcintosh rotax that Robert Holden rode too

That Suzuki would come up nice with a few tweeks
of this Steve Roberts built GS1000

[TheDemonLord]

dalls rankin, mike green and murray cross's kawasakis are still around and don't forget the mcintosh rotax that Robert Holden rode too

of this Steve Roberts built GS1000

Do you have any more pictures of that bike? I am loving the Angular F117 nighthawk vibe