Cun Tie Life apologises for being a man

[caseye]

OK so politics and I don't get on so well, but this BS has to stop.
Anyone else out there feel the need to apologise for being born a man?
Rip whatever he has left between his legs off and at least call IT what it is an apologist who think's this sort of shit will be accepted by ordinary people trying to do their damnedest for their families their wives and kids and friends and family.
Yes there are scumbag males out there but this is going too fucking far.
I'd ride for men against violence in a heart beat, but not if anyone else who does, thinks this was a good idea.
So come on boys, does this whimp speak for you???

[varminter]

Not me, my wife is still beating me.:baby:

[98tls]

Very strange but no more than one would expect from our politicians no matter what party.Maybe cunty should do what Clarke did and simply start shopping down a different aisle.

[Ocean1]

"Cun Tie Life apologies for being a man."


Pffftt. As if...

[Paul in NZ]

Stupidest thing ever.... FFS a man does not do that shit.... Why link it into all men? Hes even more of a dickhead than I suspected

[Robert Taylor]

OK so politics and I don't get on so well, but this BS has to stop.
Anyone else out there feel the need to apologise for being born a man?
Rip whatever he has left between his legs off and at least call IT what it is an apologist who think's this sort of shit will be accepted by ordinary people trying to do their damnedest for their families their wives and kids and friends and family.
Yes there are scumbag males out there but this is going too fucking far.
I'd ride for men against violence in a heart beat, but not if anyone else who does, thinks this was a good idea.
So come on boys, does this whimp speak for you???

Its another own goal. If you are a white male businessman you are especially fair game for having the temerity to be so.

[The Reibz]

Met this guy at the RSA on Anzac day. Seemed pretty nice

All I can say now is what a shitcunt...

[Katman]

He reminds me of this guy.

<img src="http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/images/400/brent_smile.jpg"/>

[skippa1]

He's a joke

[AllanB]

Eh? Link? WTF is going on?

[skippa1]

Eh? Link? WTF is going on?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10232457/David-Cunliffe-I-m-sorry-for-being-a-man

[skippa1]

He reminds me of this guy.


Fuckin oath.....nailed. Bling sent

[AllanB]

Cheers. Fucks me off - I go to work for 10 hours and some cock Politician who is happy grabbing a huge percentage of my income in tax is now spouting off again.

The guy is a train wreck

I did see the Labor Party 2IC on TV a week or so back - he was very good .........

[YellowDog]

Met this guy at the RSA on Anzac day. Seemed pretty nice

All I can say now is what a shitcunt...

I went to one of his speeches when he was Communications minister or something like that. He came over pretty well and I thought he was OK.

With his trust account funding and immigration letter hypocrisy, for me, he went right down hill.

Now he has admitted for being an apology for a man and presumably likes wearing ladies clothes or whatever kinky stuff he's into, I think he needs to step aside. Hopefully whilst standing by a cliff.

Of all of the people I know and have ever met, more females than males of the partnership have been the aggressive ones.

Perhaps he beats his own missus and hence the apology :yes:

[Maha]

.... his enlarged man minge has obviously clouded his objective thinking.

[HenryDorsetCase]

What a cock. He will probably apologise for having one of them next. labour is screwed. Yay for donkey and his bunch of lumpy minions

[AD345]

If you can get past the 5 second sound bite gleefully pounced upon by the media, Labour actually has a point:




The Policy: https://www.labour.org.nz/endingviolence

"The issue

On average 35 New Zealanders are killed in family violence and family violence related homicides every year. One in three New Zealand women experience intimate partner violence. 20,000 women and children needed the help of Women’s Refuge last year alone.

New Zealand has a moral and international obligation to ensure women and children are safe and free from violence. New Zealand’s latest UN Periodic review and CEDAW review both raised issues with our high and increasing levels of violence against women and low levels of reporting and conviction.

The level of violence against women and children – sexual and domestic - is unacceptable and out of line with many similar countries. The social and economic costs of this violence are huge – to individuals, to families and to our whole community. Action is needed to reduce the high rates of violence.

Family, Domestic and Sexual Violence is preventable. There is a body of evidence and clear understanding of what needs to be done based on substantive work put in place by the last Labour Government. Now is the time for comprehensive action - failure to do so is equivalent to being complicit in the huge harm happening in our communities.



Labour's plan

Labour will take decisive action with the aim of being world leading in eliminating violence against women and children focusing on prevention, support services and justice.

We will invest $60 million in additional funding over four years and redirect existing funding to support immediate initiatives for eliminating violence against women and children. In addition we will commit to a long term, inclusive, collaborative New Zealand Action Plan.

[fridayflash]

yeah, i heard it... 60 million? fucken lolly scramble!.. regardless of how important the issue is

[AllanB]

Don't think there is any argument against his intention or ultimate message - just the delivery. Unfortunately he is making a habit of the failed delivery .......

[AD345]

Don't think there is any argument against his intention or ultimate message - just the delivery. Unfortunately he is making a habit of the failed delivery .......


oh yes indeedy

[Ocean1]

Labour's plan

Labour will take decisive action with the aim of being world leading in eliminating violence against women and children focusing on prevention, support services and justice.

We will invest $60 million in additional funding over four years and redirect existing funding to support immediate initiatives for eliminating violence against women and children. In addition we will commit to a long term, inclusive, collaborative New Zealand Action Plan.

So they've got nothing?

As usual?

[HenryDorsetCase]

So they've got nothing?

As usual?

It will make whanau ora look like an auditors convention.

[Jantar]

If you can get past the 5 second sound bite gleefully pounced upon by the media, Labour actually has a point:


.......
"The issue

..... One in three New Zealand women experience intimate partner violence. .....
No, Labour do NOT have a point. Cun-tie-lift has effectively said that ALL men are wife beaters. That is an insult to the 67% of men who aren't.

[Akzle]

it may shock you, that im a feminist.

For a long time, ive wanted equality!

Ie, the charge 'male assaults female' should be scrapped.

And i should be allowed to punch a woman in the face for being a bitch, as i can punch a man for being an asshole.
Somehow my bra-burnings arent as well attended as the 'voting' and 'equal pay' ones...

[pritch]

Looking at his audience I can see why he may have had an impulse to blurt that out. Then again he wasn't much of a man to start with, so he didn't need a very big apology. I'm still trying to figure out what this has to do with motorcycling though? :whistle:

[AllanB]

I'm still trying to figure out what this has to do with motorcycling though? :whistle:

Mainly men ride motorcycles. Often they shamelessly hide under their helmets perving at women.

[misterO]

I tend to stay out of NZ politics, but, in my opinion, the discharge from this mangina is repugnant.

[pritch]

Mainly men ride motorcycles.

Used to be only men rode bikes. The bastard that invented the electric start has got a lot to answer for.:shutup:

[FLUB]

I'm proud to be a real man.......my wife gave me permission to say that :-)


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[awayatc]

So what is the problem ?

Cuntlife apologising for being a man?

Dont all politicians lie?

We all know he is not half the man Clark used to be

[TheDemonLord]

He's going for the Feminazi vote....

on a related note:

Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Can you throw 'em o'er your shoulder like a Continental soldier?
Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low

[JimO]

he should apologise for being a tool

[buggerit]

The snivelling cunt, im sick and tired of all males being made to be some lower form of life, wether it be speeding, drink driving or some other social ill
that is made out to be a male only problem if you believe the media. It really pisses me off for my boys sake as it must lower self worth until you are mature enough to rationalise it.
By the way, nagging is abuse too, you just cant measure it .

[thepom]

be interesting to see what the statistics are between maori and pakeha offenders...

[Big Dog]

In my opinion men who treat women like that have rescinded their man card until they earn it back. So I am confused, was he saying he apologises for being a wife beater or was he saying you have to beat your wife to be a man?

Delivery or message matters not a skerrit. I am offended by being lumped in with those who beat their wives and my wife was offended that he is so accepting of that behaviour he felt in a position to apologise.

The behaviour is unacceptable and we should do something more about it than posture, bi making in a man problem takes away the responsibility of the individual.

I for one can vouch for the fact that woman on man violence often goes unreported.
I tried to report an ex a couple of times. I got laughed at and ridiculed but no report. One of the times I got a report taken but they then visited her and accepted her version of I tripped and fell into the clock she was showing me. Several times.

$1000 says if I'd clocked her back I'd have done a stretch.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[F5 Dave]

The various primates in the zoo that jerk off and sling poo while tourists are watching are often quite bipedal.

I'd just like to say, That I'm very very sorry.

[Murray]

be interesting to see what the statistics are between maori and pakeha offenders...

And English and South Africans and Indians and Pakistanis and Greek and Italians and Muslims and Catholics and Asian and African and Australian and and and

[SPman]

be interesting to see what the statistics are between maori and pakeha offenders... In real life, about the same - just the maori at the lower end of the socio-economic scale get all the publicity. There are equal numbers of pakeha beating their kids and wifes - they just aren't as "newsworthy", for some reason......

[skippa1]

be interesting to see what the statistics are between maori and pakeha offenders...
Why?

10char

[SPman]

The snivelling cunt, im sick and tired of all males being made to be some lower form of life, wether it be speeding, drink driving or some other social ill
that is made out to be a male only problem if you believe the media. It really pisses me off for my boys sake as it must lower self worth until you are mature enough to rationalise it.
By the way, nagging is abuse too, you just cant measure it .

The ‘not every man should be ashamed’ backlash is the same tired voice of the invisibly privileged being forced to consider someone else’s feelings for once and it’s as intellectually bankrupt as it’s always been.


Key's response.....?

To the National Party, everything is a joke. Poverty is a joke. Inequality is a joke, and now domestic violence is a joke.....

[Oakie]

Occasionally I've been embarrassed by other men's actions toward women but never apologetic or even embarrassed just for being a man.

Gotta say though, that by the look of some of those women in the audience Cunliffe's comments may have been just about making sure he survived the meeting. Some of them gave off that 'He's a man so he's a rapist" vibe.

[HenryDorsetCase]

And i should be allowed to punch a woman in the face for being a bitch, as i can punch a man for being an asshole.
Somehow my bra-burnings arent as well attended as the 'voting' and 'equal pay' ones...

I punched a woman in the face this very morning.

Unfortunately she came straight back with a jab-cross-hook-overhand right that made me look stupid.

[Robbo]

Seems like it's apologies all around.

This one from Trevor (the dinosaur) Mallard

[GrayWolf]

If you can get past the 5 second sound bite gleefully pounced upon by the media, Labour actually has a point:




The Policy: https://www.labour.org.nz/endingviolence

"The issue

On average 35 New Zealanders are killed in family violence and family violence related homicides every year. One in three New Zealand women experience intimate partner violence. 20,000 women and children needed the help of Women’s Refuge last year alone.

New Zealand has a moral and international obligation to ensure women and children are safe and free from violence. New Zealand’s latest UN Periodic review and CEDAW review both raised issues with our high and increasing levels of violence against women and low levels of reporting and conviction.

The level of violence against women and children – sexual and domestic - is unacceptable and out of line with many similar countries. The social and economic costs of this violence are huge – to individuals, to families and to our whole community. Action is needed to reduce the high rates of violence.

Family, Domestic and Sexual Violence is preventable. There is a body of evidence and clear understanding of what needs to be done based on substantive work put in place by the last Labour Government. Now is the time for comprehensive action - failure to do so is equivalent to being complicit in the huge harm happening in our communities.

.

Agreed Domestic Violence needs curbing.. But What Our dear friend Mr Cunliffe and the quote you are using, failed to mention is, that FEMALE perpertrated Domestic Violence in increasing exponentially, to the point where it is now OVER 30% in the UK....

And I KNOW from observation there is plenty of it going on here, both physical and mental .....

[Ocean1]

In real life, about the same - just the maori at the lower end of the socio-economic scale get all the publicity. There are equal numbers of pakeha beating their kids and wifes - they just aren't as "newsworthy", for some reason......

You reckon?

Now why would you make shit like that up when you didn't actually have a clue? Eh?

"Māori

There is fair consensus that Māori are substantially over-represented as both victims and perpetrators of family violence:
• The 2001 NSCV showed that lifetime prevalence of IPV was much higher for Māori women than for New Zealand European or Pacific women.
• Interviews with a community sample of New Zealand adults found that Māori were significantly more likely than non-Māori to report past domestic assault, childhood sexual assault, recent adult sexual assault and physical assault, although not all of it will have been in family settings.
• One study of adult Māori found that levels of domestic assault were significantly higher in urban than rural areas. Females were much more likely than males to report domestic assault. Risks were also higher for younger respondents compared to middle-aged and older respondents."

https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.msd.govt.nz%2Fdocuments%2Fab out-msd-and-our-work%2Fpublications-resources%2Fresearch%2Fscale-nature%2Fscale-and-nature.doc&ei=2Vi3U8ayHcWpkAXe1YDYAQ&usg=AFQjCNEjhnjpg8oPXSEtoo0oDvGy7xP5mw&sig2=IpKgTPfGKWSzVjRmytUHAg&bvm=bv.70138588,d.dGI

[Murray]

You reckon?


"Māori

There is fair consensus that Māori are substantially over-represented as both victims and perpetrators of family violence:
• The 2001 NSCV showed that lifetime prevalence of IPV was much higher for Māori women than for New Zealand European or Pacific women.
• Interviews with a community sample of New Zealand adults found that Māori were significantly more likely than non-Māori to report past domestic assault, childhood sexual assault, recent adult sexual assault and physical assault, although not all of it will have been in family settings.
• One study of adult Māori found that levels of domestic assault were significantly higher in urban than rural areas. Females were much more likely than males to report domestic assault. Risks were also higher for younger respondents compared to middle-aged and older respondents."


Point 2 if it is correct makes point 1 irrelevant and point 3 is a comparison between rural and urban so no relevance to SPmans comment either.

Stats like ACC and motorcycle stats - use them whichever way you want to

[awayatc]

As long as you all know.......

family violence is not K.O.....

[Ocean1]

Point 2 if it is correct makes point 1 irrelevant and point 3 is a comparison between rural and urban so no relevance to SPmans comment either.

Stats like ACC and motorcycle stats - use them whichever way you want to

Just don't abuse them.












Like you just did.

[Murray]

Just don't abuse them.
Like you just did.

Dont think I did cause I stated "If point 2 is correct"

"If" covers many things

[awayatc]

You a plotician?

you sound just like Cunltlife...

[Hitcher]

An apology with no description of what he's going to do to fix his perceived problem isn't an apology.

[98tls]

it may shock you, that im a feminist.

For a long time, ive wanted equality!

Ie, the charge 'male assaults female' should be scrapped.

And i should be allowed to punch a woman in the face for being a bitch, as i can punch a man for being an asshole.
Somehow my bra-burnings arent as well attended as the 'voting' and 'equal pay' ones...

Mate of mine was in a pub in stralia and a really ugly and very pissed abbo chick asks him to dance siily cunt told her to fuck off so she knocked him over.:nya:

[98tls]

Methinks this guy may have to apologise...http://youtu.be/hqYs6e8fVIM

[Ocean1]

An apology with no description of what he's going to do to fix his perceived problem isn't an apology.

But he told us what they were going to do.

"Labour will take decisive action with the aim of being world leading in eliminating violence against women and children focusing on prevention, support services and justice.

We will invest $60 million in additional funding over four years and redirect existing funding to support immediate initiatives for eliminating violence against women and children. In addition we will commit to a long term, inclusive, collaborative New Zealand Action Plan."

:third:

[Mom]

An apology with no description of what he's going to do to fix his perceived problem isn't an apology.

Agreed. Pity of it is people (some of them) are gullible and will swallow his shit hook, line and sinker.

The problem is not just perceived though. It happens, all the time. Victims however, come from both sexes. All us humans have the capacity to be thugs, some of "us" have been conditioned to conform, some of "us" have never been shown how to conform. I always thought he was not a person I wanted to vote for, I am totally confirmed now.


But he told us what they were going to do. :third:

Hi Five!

[Ender EnZed]

I'm sorry for being a man.

Fucking hell. This shit is how people end up voting for NZ First.

[Berg]

According to the 2004-2011 Family Violence Death Review, prepared by the NZ Police, there were a total of 101 family violence deaths over that period, 37 adult females, 31 adult males and 33 children – 19 girls and 14 boys. 45 percent of the victims were male and 55 percent were female. Females killed 55 percent of the child victims, 32 percent of the adult male victims, and 8 percent of the adult women victims.[5]

Professor Fergusson’s research corroborated these figures, finding there was “No statistically significant main effects for gender, or gender-by-ethnicity interactions, suggesting that for both Intimate Partner Violence victimisation and perpetration, males and females reported similar levels of both victimisation and perpetration, and the results were similar for Māori and non-Māori females and males”.

My two cents say Cunliffe's a cunt

[jim.cox]

Cunliffe's a cunt

He should apologise for just BEING

[awayatc]

He is getting punished....

like all of us,

he to has to look in the mirror,

everyday , at least once....

[F5 Dave]

Berg
Fascinating post. Where would one find this review?
Not the image the media plays at all.

Deaths of course don't tell the full story. There are whole layers of abuse below that. Women's refuge is sadly necessary in so called civilised society. Support them where you can.

But Cunlaugh has done the whole point a total disservice.

[dinosaur]

If you can get past the 5 second sound bite gleefully pounced upon by the media, Labour actually has a point:
The Policy: https://www.labour.org.nz/endingviolence

Of course you're right that the point he was making was very serious and worth making, in some ways the subject makes his comments worse;
his foolish comment puts every mans back up right from the start and they don't hear the rest of the message
the lack of sincerity and the melodrama in his voice also detracts from his message

To be putting your self up as Prime Minister and be making such basic fuckups - does not convince people in your ability to represent NZ on the world stage; can you imagine he makes some kind of JFK wanna be speech while over seas or makes a stupid statement - the world media would seize on it just as quickly as our own - and again content is lost

He has the potential to offend more than contribute

Text out of context is pretext

whats wrong with a guy who thinks he has to act contrite and sincere ??????

who the fuck am i going to vote for now - being a Labour supporter Im left with out a vote ........ NZ first, greens?

[dinosaur]

be interesting to see what the statistics are between maori and pakeha offenders...

I'm so glad we left the worst of white trash back home in the UK

mind you it makes things here a little out of balance - one of the problems of being in an isolated country

Don't worry though; with every generation of white people we breed more and more trash - the ratios will soon reflect the demegraphics and minority groups will be less over represented

[dinosaur]

Stats like ACC and motorcycle stats - use them whichever way you want to

the most dangerous sport to play is lawn bowls - more people die and are injured at the bowls club or playing bowls than any other single sport - going by pure statistics

[Robbo]

the most dangerous sport to play is lawn bowls - more people die and are injured at the bowls club or playing bowls than any other single sport - going by pure statistics

Yep! I've often heard of lawn bowling clubs being referred to as Undertakers Holding Pens. :laugh:

[russd7]

labor is screwed, first they come out and say some stupid policy about having quota for women in the labor party, then they go and say that they are bringing in a whole lot more female ministers therefore making it look as if they are filling quota making those women look like they have been selected on sex alone, then their illustrious leader goes and apologizes for being a man (not OK by me on any level or any context), never been a labor supporter but becoming more and more disillusioned with national so who the hell do i vote for now, maybe Kim's party might get my vote :no:
quite frankly i do beleive that men are getting more and more emasculated and frustrated which is why family violence is on the increase

[MIXONE]

He is getting punished....

like all of us,

he to has to look in the mirror,

everyday , at least once....

If I had a head like that I would shave by memory,,,

[awayatc]

My brother has a head exactly like that,

But he sits on his....

[SPman]

labor is screwed, first they come out and say some stupid policy about having quota for women in the labor party, then they go and say that they are bringing in a whole lot more female ministers therefore making it look as if they are filling quota making those women look like they have been selected on sex alone, then their illustrious leader goes and apologizes for being a man (not OK by me on any level or any context), never been a labor supporter but becoming more and more disillusioned with national so who the hell do i vote for now, maybe Kim's party might get my vote :no:
quite frankly i do beleive that men are getting more and more emasculated and frustrated which is why family violence is on the increaseYou obviously skim over the superficial - there is no quota for women in the party or female ministers, they just happen to believe that more women in parliament to represent 50% of the population is probably a good thing - most of the extra women are at the bottom of the list, so won't get in, anyway. Apologises for being a man?, Really? did you read the rest of the context or grab that one from the MSM. He put it across rather lamely, but, to a mainly female audience, and a fact that most sexual violence is committed by men against women, it was a (badly) put generic apology.......but hey, smear him across the headlines - it's men doing the smearing by the way, most women know what he's on about.
I find it far more telling, that the Christchurch Rape crisis Centre is being closed down, due to lack of funding, and from the MSM - barely a whisper - that's a more telling comment on where men and the MSM stand generally..........

[R650R]

Its making Mana Dotcom more viable every day... even if Mona did have to 'escape' in a golf cart...
Cunliffe sounded so fake, be vying with some of Obamas crocodile tears momenst for an Oscar...
Total BS toadying up for the female vote.

[MrKiwi]

According to the 2004-2011 Family Violence Death Review, prepared by the NZ Police, there were a total of 101 family violence deaths over that period, 37 adult females, 31 adult males and 33 children – 19 girls and 14 boys. 45 percent of the victims were male and 55 percent were female. Females killed 55 percent of the child victims, 32 percent of the adult male victims, and 8 percent of the adult women victims.[5]

Professor Fergusson’s research corroborated these figures, finding there was “No statistically significant main effects for gender, or gender-by-ethnicity interactions, suggesting that for both Intimate Partner Violence victimisation and perpetration, males and females reported similar levels of both victimisation and perpetration, and the results were similar for Māori and non-Māori females and males”.

My two cents say Cunliffe's a cunt


There you go, but heck why let the facts get in the way of a bullshit story by politicians. He trivialises a very important social problem that needs attention, and apologising for being a man demeans the very issue he is (on the face of it) trying to address, let alone trying to get votes. He's going to lose more than he gains.

I'm not sorry I'm a man, I'm not sorry I ride a motorbike, I'm not sorry my house is a safe place to live for my myself, my wife and my children and I'm not sorry I enjoy life...

[dinosaur]

I'm not sorry I'm a man, I'm not sorry I ride a motorbike, I'm not sorry my house is a safe place to live for my myself, my wife and my children and I'm not sorry I enjoy life...

yeah but you should apologize for riding a Tiger ..... surely?

[MrKiwi]

yeah but you should apologize for riding a Tiger ..... surely?

... :shit:

... :spanking:

[willytheekid]

Dear Mr Cuntlife

298848

Me?

298849

And I make no apologies! :motu:

[rastuscat]

He's a nob
He's a nob
He's a nob
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

He's a nob
He's a nob
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

[willytheekid]

He's a nob
He's a nob
He's a nob
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

He's a nob
He's a nob
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

"And he can't pee standing uuuup...oooooh"


sorry...catchy song :D

[Robbo]

He's a nob
He's a nob
He's a nob
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

He's a nob
He's a nob
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah

Ah, shades of Ray Colombus :whistle:

[jasonu]

He reminds me of this guy.

<img src="http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/theoffice/images/400/brent_smile.jpg"/>

Except this guy is successful and will most likely remain so for a long time.
The other guy will simply fade away.

[carbonhed]

First we got the Man Ban quota, then we get the apology for being a man from Dear Leader and now they're going to change the presumption of innocence in rape cases so that you are guilty unless you can prove you are innocent.

Fortunately they've prepared these handy contracts to be completed by both parties before the shagging starts.

http://www.sex-contract.com/female-contract.html

http://www.sex-contract.com/male-contract.html

There's only two kinds of guys supporting the Labour Party. Steers and queers.

[Katman]

Except this guy is successful and will most likely remain so for a long time.
The other guy will simply fade away.

I see you missed the point completely.

He reminds me of David Brent - not Ricky Gervais.

[jasonu]

I see you missed the point completely.

He reminds me of David Brent - not Ricky Gervais.

My comment stands. Cuntcliff won't last long.

[Banditbandit]

My comment stands. Cuntcliff won't last long.

My first thought was 'how come he's apologising for being something he is not?'

[carbonhed]

Sincerity.... if you can fake that you've got it made.

Words can't describe this atrocity... just watch it and feel your flesh creep.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/KSQzTKcUda0?feature=player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Banditbandit]

Sincerity.... if you can fake that you've got it made.



Yuuup .. and that's all a politician needs to get elected ..

[jim.cox]

And now the Twat is apologising for taking a holiday with his kids.

Man, he needs a big dose of HTFU pills.

Labour's dismal showing at this year's polls will have a lot to do with his lack of leadership.

Actually it might be better for them if he did have a holiday - a permanent one

[fridayflash]

....and promising $200 million to kickstart economies in regional towns...theyll all get $50 each, the lolly scramble has only just begun...

[Swoop]

And now the Twat is apologising for taking a holiday with his kids.

Labour's dismal showing at this year's polls will have a lot to do with his lack of leadership.

Actually it might be better for them if he did have a holiday - a permanent one
The idiot is apologising for apologising now.

Fuck me. There isn't a credible, intelligent opposition to the national party in NZ.:facepalm:

[awayatc]

Leader.....?

[oldrider]

"Internet - Mana" are relying on Cunliffe remaining leader of Labour :facepalm: in order to get them a few seats in parliament ... do you think it's working for them? :shifty:

[Banditbandit]

"Internet - Mana" are relying on Cunliffe remaining leader of Labour :facepalm: in order to get them a few seats in parliament ... do you think it's working for them? :shifty:

The scarey thing is that it just might ...

[avgas]

I am sorry that voting for these idiots is still considered the norm. I am going to love explaining this to my kids in 15 years.

"So you know how you can make every decision in your life for yourself. Yeah, well, when it comes to the really big ones - you have to elect someone to do it for you"
"So they will just represent just me dad?"
"Errr....No......they will represent everyone"
"So how will they hear my thoughts on a matter?"
"Hmmmmm......tell you what - lets go back to that sex topic aye...."

1000 years of stupid humans. 2000 if you count the fallen races who first adopted this dumb idea.

[oldrider]

The scarey thing is that it just might ...

Actually it's not the Maori element that he (Hone) attracts that scare me it's the deadbeat Pakeha lot! .. FFS they are the pits of our society! :weird:

[Big Dog]

I am sorry that voting for these idiots is still considered the norm. I am going to love explaining this to my kids in 15 years.

"So you know how you can make every decision in your life for yourself. Yeah, well, when it comes to the really big ones - you have to elect someone to do it for you"
"So they will just represent just me dad?"
"Errr....No......they will represent everyone"
"So how will they hear my thoughts on a matter?"
"Hmmmmm......tell you what - lets go back to that sex topic aye...."

1000 years of stupid humans. 2000 if you count the fallen races who first adopted this dumb idea.

Simple really. Those with a personal agenda try to get elected. They support their own agenda by selling out to whomever advances their cause. If you don't like it you can either vote someone else in or stand yourself. If you are in the minority your vote does not count.

Kind of like having a trial period at any job except it is for 3 years at a time not 90 days.

Once upon a time if you wrote to an M.P. You got a hand written response from them.

Then in the 90's it became a type response from the office signed by the M.P.

Then in the late 90's it became a typed letter signed on behalf by an anonymous set of initials from the office of the M.P.

Now you might get an email response from a social media representative.

Progress eh?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[awa355]

Cunliffe is learning his place. He may stay away from a 'Leaders debate.' on TV3.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11298450

Well, I guess if you're not a leader, not much point turning up.

[SPman]

Cunliffe is learning his place. He may stay away from a 'Leaders debate.' on TV3.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11298450

Well, I guess if you're not a leader, not much point turning up.
With Hoskins as a mediator?

Mike "Is David Cunliffe incompetent or mad? Is he out to lunch or out of touch? Is David Cunliffe deluded or living in a parallel universe?" Hoskings!

If it's good enough for Key to challenge Cunliffe to a debate, then not front, it's good enough for DC not to front if there's no point.

Mind you - it could be good for a laugh - just don't expect a good, fair, reasoned debate.

[Sharry]

Cunliffe is learning his place. He may stay away from a 'Leaders debate.' on TV3.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11298450

Well, I guess if you're not a leader, not much point turning up.

He may well have been doubled booked. I hear he is due to be at his first Transgender re-assignment group meeting at the same time :p

[Winston001]

Seems a bit odd that David Cunliffe would be afraid of Mike Hosking. Its a political debate not a man to man fight.

[oldrider]

Seems a bit odd that David Cunliffe would be afraid of Mike Hoskins. Its a political debate not a man to man fight.

There is a lot that is odd about politics Winston ... the only reason I can see for having so many of them is the constant diversions that they create! :corn:

A circus if you will! :blip: Meanwhile back in the jungle ... :kick: ... They con us again before we know it! :facepalm:

[Woodman]

Cunliffe is learning his place. He may stay away from a 'Leaders debate.' on TV3.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11298450

Well, I guess if you're not a leader, not much point turning up.

He's a fucken wet blanket..........

[carbonhed]

With Hoskins as a mediator?

Mike "Is David Cunliffe incompetent or mad? Is he out to lunch or out of touch? Is David Cunliffe deluded or living in a parallel universe?" Hoskings!

If it's good enough for Key to challenge Cunliffe to a debate, then not front, it's good enough for DC not to front if there's no point.

Mind you - it could be good for a laugh - just don't expect a good, fair, reasoned debate.

Seem perfectly reasonable questions to me.

Maybe Key will burst into tears when it's Campbells turn to mediate.....