One piece race suit, anyone?

[Edbear]

I got in some samples of leather goods to check out and am very pleased with the quality. However every man and his dog is doing them these days and I am not sure whether to pursue the brand, (Style), at this point.

I had the gear checked out by a well known and respected motorcycle racer here and he said the quality was right up there alongside his own race suit valued at $1900.00! This puts it in the $1500.00+ bracket for retail in NZ. I have attached pics, it's size 46. I am open to offers over $600.00 for the suit if anyone is looking for one but is choking on the price of them at the moment.

The gloves are a snug fit on me and retail for $75.00, (as good as gloves costing a lot more!) but I will sell them for $45.00 or give them with the suit if I can get $800 for that.

The back protector is $50, knee protectors same price.

I only want to recoup my costs with a small profit to make it worthwhile, while giving others the opportunity to get some gear they may not be able to afford otherwise.

[nodrog]

Back protector looks the same as a quasi one.

Whos the racer that says its good stuff?

[Edbear]

Back protector looks the same as a quasi one.

Whos the racer that says its good stuff?

I'll ask him if he minds being mentioned.

[scrivy]

Whos the racer that says its good stuff?

GORDIE.............

Oh, scratch that, it says respected............... :rolleyes::lol:

[Edbear]

Haha! Owing to his sponsorship deals he'd rather remain anonymous. However he was genuinely complimentary, and of course if anyone is seriously interested they are very welcome to have it checked out by someone they trust.

I don't have the necessary experience to make a qualified judgement. When I received the samples I was impressed but wanted the opinion of someone who trusts their life to the gear.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Haha! Owing to his sponsorship deals he'd rather remain anonymous..

Of course he would... :innocent:

[CHOPPA]

It doesnt look that good to me mate :)

[nzspokes]

I would be very interested in the suit, colours even match my bike. :headbang:

But I dont tend to fit the normal profile of fitting gear sadly. they should make fat mans versions.:(

And the small point im broke currently.

[AllanB]

What - no discounted batteries?

[MVnut]

Are these cheap Saudi suits?

[bogan]

How many stitches does it have? :innocent:




Someone had to ask, and shame on you cunts for not doing so :bleh:

[BuzzardNZ]

How many stitches does it have? :innocent:




Someone had to ask, and shame on you cunts for not doing so :bleh:

LOL and here I was thinking you were going to ask about a warranty/guarantee ;) but that might be considered a bit disingenuous :shifty:

[bogan]

LOL and here I was thinking you were going to ask about a warranty/guarantee ;) but that might be considered a bit disingenuous :shifty:

Nah, if quasi the resident leather expert has taught us anything, its that unless you gear has eleventy seven stitches per yard it ain't worth shit.

One might say not putting this in online trading is a bit disingenuous in itself though.

[Edbear]

It doesnt look that good to me mate :)

I wasn't sure at first, that's why I wanted an actual racer to check it out. I have the specs so I will post them tomorrow.

[nodrog]

I wasn't sure at first, that's why I wanted an actual racer to check it out. I have the specs so I will post them tomorrow.

Racers are thick, it would be more benificial to have them assesed by somebody that actually manufactures leather race suits. Rather than somebody who justs wears what they are sponsored.

And an endorsement doesnt mean jack shit unless there is a name behind it for 2 reasons.

1, it allows the consumer to form an opinion of the review based on how they veiw said persons values.

2, it proves you arent lying.

[Paul in NZ]

Frankly it looks as ugly as the $380 1 piece I have but thankfully mines black on black... so the crazy clumsy design chosen to minimise the work for the maker rather than for good looks or effectiveness does not show. Red white and black? Nah... I think mine has about 17 stitch's in total and the rest is held together with camel spit and boiled down goat hooves. Its held up OK actually - probably because its made from the bits of leather (I think its leather) no one else wanted to use as its the skin off a cow that was force fed lead for several years......

[Edbear]

Racers are thick, it would be more benificial to have them assesed by somebody that actually manufactures leather race suits. Rather than somebody who justs wears what they are sponsored.

And an endorsement doesnt mean jack shit unless there is a name behind it for 2 reasons.

1, it allows the consumer to form an opinion of the review based on how they veiw said persons values.

2, it proves you arent lying.

1/ It's not an endorsement as such, but the opinion of a racer I respect.

2/ Given this is KB, I would have been surprised if he had said, "Yes,"

3/ I have clearly said that if anyone is seriously interested they are more than welcome to have it checked out by someone they trust.

4/ I can't be more honest than that!

5/ In my experience, the good racers are quite particular about their gear and rarely wear "off the shelf" suits. What do you do?

Here are the specs.
1- 1.3-1.4mm drum dyed top-grain cowhide.
2-Nylon stitching 3 stitches per cm.
3-YKK zippers.
4-CE Removable armour on Elbows, Shoulders, Knees and Back/Spine.
5-Extra CE certified padding used throughout suit, where depends on style.
6-Leather motorbike suits in 02 Pieces come with attaching YKK zippers on pants and jacket.
7-Arms are pre-curved.
8-Interior of leather motorbike suits are mesh lined.
9-Knee-pucks Velcro removable.

Make of it what you will.

[Edbear]

Frankly it looks as ugly as the $380 1 piece I have but thankfully mines black on black... so the crazy clumsy design chosen to minimise the work for the maker rather than for good looks or effectiveness does not show. Red white and black? Nah... I think mine has about 17 stitch's in total and the rest is held together with camel spit and boiled down goat hooves. Its held up OK actually - probably because its made from the bits of leather (I think its leather) no one else wanted to use as its the skin off a cow that was force fed lead for several years......

Haha! I'll try it on and see what it looks like on me. That may be worse, though as I have a face and figure molded by a chronic illness I am struggling to get on top of... :(

[nodrog]

.....Make of it what you will.

ok, lies.

_______

[Katman]

ok, lies.

_______

It could just be the deranged ramblings of a prescription druggie.

[Quasievil]

I'll ask him if he minds being mentioned.

(Remembering I sold the Qmoto business 2 + years ago but I USED to have them like that (like 6 years ago), but to be honest I wasn't satisfied with the Whole CE claims made, so I ditched them immediately and went to KNOX.
There are many of these types and styles around, they are NOT CE certified mostly as far as Im aware, and Certainly have no impact testing, so leave them alone I think.

[Quasievil]

Nah, if quasi the resident leather expert has taught us anything, its that unless you gear has eleventy seven stitches per yard it ain't worth shit.

One might say not putting this in online trading is a bit disingenuous in itself though.

Im pleased at least ONE thing is remembered.

None of it is rocket science, its ALL about the leather grade quality and the stitching and Armour (comfort to of course) THATS IT.
I travelled to a few countries, Pakistan included to visit the makers of gear..........seriously !! I think I went to at least 20 in Pakistan alone (dont be put of by Pakistan you would be surprised what big brands are made there) I don't know of another brand owner that has done that (just saying) anyway back on topic, you really have to be very careful about the quality stuff and I don't mind admitting (now) I got burnt on a couple of occasions trying to find another supplier, I ended up going back to my original guy........im off topic again ? the point is the main seam stitches are critical, thats along the sides and main back seams, you need at least 4 rows and with Kevlar or Bonded nylon, I find most suits dont have this, ask Sam at Celtic.............he has 6 !!!
most trademe stuff has 2, maybe 3 if youre lucky.

[BuzzardNZ]

Sounds like you better book your tickets to Pakistan there Ed!

[bogan]

Im pleased at least ONE thing is remembered.

None of it is rocket science, its ALL about the leather grade quality and the stitching and Armour (comfort to of course) THATS IT.

Mate, nah, if the leather is bad you can just stitch across those bits. Might end up looking like a jumper nan made though :whistle:


the point is the main seam stitches are critical, thats along the sides and main back seams, you need at least 4 rows and with Kevlar or Bonded nylon, I find most suits dont have this, ask Sam at Celtic.............he has 6 !!!
most trademe stuff has 2, maybe 3 if youre lucky.

Seams legit :shifty:

[macka77]

1/ It's not an endorsement as such, but the opinion of a racer I respect.

2/ Given this is KB, I would have been surprised if he had said, "Yes,"

3/ I have clearly said that if anyone is seriously interested they are more than welcome to have it checked out by someone they trust.

4/ I can't be more honest than that!

5/ In my experience, the good racers are quite particular about their gear and rarely wear "off the shelf" suits. What do you do?

Here are the specs.
1- 1.3-1.4mm drum dyed top-grain cowhide.
2-Nylon stitching 3 stitches per cm.
3-YKK zippers.
4-CE Removable armour on Elbows, Shoulders, Knees and Back/Spine.
5-Extra CE certified padding used throughout suit, where depends on style.
6-Leather motorbike suits in 02 Pieces come with attaching YKK zippers on pants and jacket.
7-Arms are pre-curved.
8-Interior of leather motorbike suits are mesh lined.
9-Knee-pucks Velcro removable.

Make of it what you will.

The use of removable armor for a racer would be a joke. It's critical to have armour that's never going to shift in a crash


I

[Crasherfromwayback]

The use of removable armor for a racer would be a joke. It's critical to have armour that's never going to shift in a crash


I

But...but...a top road racer said they were awesome!!!

[nodrog]

But...but...a top road racer said they were awesome!!!

Yeah it was hippy the pipi, he races a pauasaki.

[Erelyes]

Nylon stitching 3 stitches per cm.

Double, triple...?

[MVnut]

Double, triple...?

The rule is buy the best you can afford, however if a 'cheap' suit is cheap enough, it will obviously still offer better protection than jeans and a jumper etc. You get what you pay for, some of the cheapies are crap tho....just as some of the expensive gear is overpriced in comparison to others. I like Dainese but Lookwell and Schwabenleder are better in my opinion.

[Edbear]

Double, triple...?

I have an offer from someone else who knows about these things so I will get him to check it out as well.

[scracha]

I have an offer from someone else who knows about these things so I will get him to check it out as well.

I think you're pissing in the wind. I believe the main distributors are getting quality leathers with proper CE armour from reliable/consistent suppliers for well under $500. That's LANDED, including duty and GST.

[Edbear]

I think you're pissing in the wind. I believe the main distributors are getting quality leathers with proper CE armour from reliable/consistent suppliers for well under $500. That's LANDED, including duty and GST.

These are quality leathers with proper CE armour but nobody here believes it. I have to have independent endorsement for KB. I have made it clear that anyone seriously interested is welcome to have it checked out by someone they trust.

For some members here, nothing will change their minds. Not that I care what they think since they were never going to be purchasing anyway, but there are other members who have asked genuine questions and made considered comments.

[buggerit]

Cut the arse out and keep it for the bedroom ?:lol:

[scracha]

These are quality leathers with proper CE armour but nobody here believes it. I have to have independent endorsement for KB. I have made it clear that anyone seriously interested is welcome to have it checked out by someone they trust.

For some members here, nothing will change their minds. Not that I care what they think since they were never going to be purchasing anyway, but there are other members who have asked genuine questions and made considered comments.

Never said they weren't Ed but unless you're landing them for about $300 inc then by the time you get them marketed, establish a supply chain, deal with returns etc then you're wasting your time. Why's anyone gonna pay over $1000 for yet another unknown brand of leathers when the likes of Cycletreads are doing off the peg RST ones for what...$900....and I can look on the RST website and see pretty top notch riders all over the world using them. Made to measure custom leathers are a different category altogether.

Having leathers checked out by "someone I trust" or a "top racer" is akin to having a racing mate check out some well built Chinese helmet I've imported that just happens not to have an ANZ/SNELL/EU safety rating. i.e. Might be fantastic but if it's not tested in a lab, there's really no way of knowing and who would want to risk that?

[Edbear]

Never said they weren't Ed but unless you're landing them for about $300 inc then by the time you get them marketed, establish a supply chain, deal with returns etc then you're wasting your time. Why's anyone gonna pay over $1000 for yet another unknown brand of leathers when the likes of Cycletreads are doing off the peg RST ones for what...$900....and I can look on the RST website and see pretty top notch riders all over the world using them. Made to measure custom leathers are a different category altogether.

Having leathers checked out by "someone I trust" or a "top racer" is akin to having a racing mate check out some well built Chinese helmet I've imported that just happens not to have an ANZ/SNELL/EU safety rating. i.e. Might be fantastic but if it's not tested in a lab, there's really no way of knowing and who would want to risk that?

Sorry, you're right of course. My market, if I do decide to go ahead would not be the top end. I do know what the costs are for varying quality and you will pay double that for the top end gear.

If I do decide to go ahead I need to find a niche market and offer something unique. I have ideas in mind and people to talk to.

For me to try competing with the big names I would be wasting my time and money as you indicate. I have two companies that are growing very fast due to offering unique products with no competition or a new and better way of selling a special product.

I have a third part, the original range of products that I directly compete with the major players and for that I am in partnership with a large supplier and can beat anyone's prices while offering same or better quality.

I won't say more here, but I have a unique business and a very different way of doing things that is proving successful.

[unstuck]

Which are you finding harder to sell, leathers or religion? Both look like crappy products to me. :whistle:

[scracha]

If I do decide to go ahead I need to find a niche market and offer something unique. I have ideas in mind and people to talk to.

You've got the likes of 1tonne doing the budget stuff and Qmoto doing custom made. It's not a huge market in NZ and I wouldn't imagine folks with the cash to buy 1 piece leathers and go racing are gonna stuff about to save a few hundy. If it's a reasonably priced version of something like the Dianese airsuit then I think you'd be on to a winner (patents not withstanding) but other than that I can't figure out any other gaps in the market but then again, I never made millions in business.




I won't say more here, but I have a unique business and a very different way of doing things that is proving successful.
Will keep my eyes posted.

[CHOPPA]

Andrew is looking for a NZ supplier. His leathers are top notch, he offers off the shelf and full custom suits. They are worn all over the world by top racers.

http://www.ricondi.com.au/

[Edbear]

Andrew is looking for a NZ supplier. His leathers are top notch, he offers off the shelf and full custom suits. They are worn all over the world by top racers.

http://www.ricondi.com.au/

No doubt good stuff, but I lack the resources to take on something that big. If I did have the necessary investment available it might be a good idea. With the gear I have, I'd be looking at small numbers as an added product and offer to a specific but small niche and if it works and starts growing then maybe looking at going further.

[bogan]

Will you be branching out into medical insurance as an after sales support industry like you did with the batteries and fire extinguishers?

Seems you been given some pretty good criteria and evaluation of the aformentioned $1500 plus gear :laugh: perhaps take it on board this time instead of relying too heavily on your own 'research'.

[Drew]

Do I look like this big a cock, when I'm picking on fucken Harris? He is at least outspoken and disagreeable, Ed on the other hand tries his best not to upset anyone.

[bogan]

Do I look like this big a cock, when I'm picking on fucken Harris? He is at least outspoken and disagreeable, Ed on the other hand tries his best not to upset anyone.

At least as big, no thread calling for Ed to fuck off is there? I seem to recall Ed asking if I could feed myself instead of answering a product question, hardly a good attempt at not upsetting anyone is it?

[Tony.OK]

Do I look like this big a cock, when I'm picking on fucken Harris? He is at least outspoken and disagreeable, Ed on the other hand tries his best not to upset anyone.

YES!!!!!
Now fuck off cunt!

[Drew]

Okay then. Guess I'll put the little fucken gnome cunt on ignore, and stop giving him grief. We all feel justified in being bullies it seems, but the reality is we're just cunts.

[BuzzardNZ]

Will you be branching out into medical insurance as an after sales support industry like you did with the batteries and fire extinguishers?




............. :lol: :killingme :rofl: :kick:

[Tony.OK]

Okay then. Guess I'll put the little fucken gnome cunt on ignore, and stop giving him grief. We all feel justified in being bullies it seems, but the reality is we're just cunts.

Gizza kiss.......................you ain't allowed to change now mate, shit it'd probably throw the planet off its axis and we'll crash into the sun!

[nodrog]

Okay then. Guess I'll put the little fucken gnome cunt on ignore, and stop giving him grief. We all feel justified in being bullies it seems, but the reality is we're just cunts.

I've just booked a seat on grab one, I'm on my way to cuddle you.

[bogan]

Okay then. Guess I'll put the little fucken gnome cunt on ignore, and stop giving him grief. We all feel justified in being bullies it seems, but the reality is we're just cunts.

The irony there is, inferring someone is a bully in order to compel them to do as you wish, is in itself an act of bullying... :eek:

Also, Ed proved (to me at least) many times how willing he was to mislead and lie to customers to make sales in other threads; I think when that sort of person starts offering $1500+ safety gear at a $600 price-tag, a few hard questions asked in a public forum could be of great benefit to potential customers. If he doesn't like that, then he can stop being such a cheap cunt and go buy some advertising instead of whoring his crap on forums.

[nzspokes]

he can stop being such a cheap cunt and go buy some advertising instead of whoring his crap on forums.

Prorider whore there crap on here multiple times a day but you dont winge about that. You didnt have any problem trying to whore your crap on here either.

[Drew]

The irony there is, inferring someone is a bully in order to compel them to do as you wish, is in itself an act of bullying... :eek:

Also, Ed proved (to me at least) many times how willing he was to mislead and lie to customers to make sales in other threads; I think when that sort of person starts offering $1500+ safety gear at a $600 price-tag, a few hard questions asked in a public forum could be of great benefit to potential customers. If he doesn't like that, then he can stop being such a cheap cunt and go buy some advertising instead of whoring his crap on forums.I did not infer you are a bully. I flat out stated that we both are. At the same time as saying, we each feel justified.

Don't take it so personal.

[quickbuck]

Prorider whore there crap on here multiple times a day but you dont winge about that.


Where crap?







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[bogan]

Prorider whore there crap on here multiple times a day but you dont winge about that. You didnt have any problem trying to whore your crap on here either.

Rider training is hardly crap if you ask me. I used kb's brain trust to guide my product development if that is what you mean?


I did not infer you are a bully. I flat out stated that we both are. At the same time as saying, we each feel justified.

Don't take it so personal.

Hmm, guess the trip back up to a high road shall be a very long one for you eh Drew :lol:

Don't worry about me taking shit online too personally either, my neckbeard shields me from such danger.

[nzspokes]

Where crap?



Sorry might have the wrong business, whoever keeps putting up half a page full of ride instruction all the time.

[Drew]

Hmm, guess the trip back up to a high road shall be a very long one for you eh Drew :lol:
Oh, I'll never make it up the high road.

Don't worry about me taking shit online too personally either, my neckbeard shields me from such danger.Where does it get to, on the shirt?

[Pussy]

The irony there is, inferring someone is a bully in order to compel them to do as you wish, is in itself an act of bullying... :eek:

Also, Ed proved (to me at least) many times how willing he was to mislead and lie to customers to make sales in other threads; I think when that sort of person starts offering $1500+ safety gear at a $600 price-tag, a few hard questions asked in a public forum could be of great benefit to potential customers. If he doesn't like that, then he can stop being such a cheap cunt and go buy some advertising instead of whoring his crap on forums.

Now ain't that the truth! The stupid prick has a lot on here fooled, though!

[Madness]

Now ain't that the truth! The stupid prick has a lot on here fooled, though!

What the fuck are you talking about, Willis?


Ed on the other hand tries his best not to upset anyone.

Nuff said.

[Drew]

Nuff said.I've got no issue in bullying you though cocksucker, now fuck off and shoot yourself. Improve everyone's day.

[Madness]

I've got no issue in bullying you though cocksucker, now fuck off and shoot yourself. Improve everyone's day.

You're a fucking dreamer you weak cunt.


Bully; use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force them to do something.

Yerp, Ed has a few of the more feeble-minded KB members fooled. No challenge in that but then I don't think Ed does challenging much.

[Drew]

You're a fucking dreamer you weak cunt.There'll be a few definitions of the word I imagine, given the modern era like.

Might be weak, might be a cunt, but it could be worse. I could be like you.

[quickbuck]

Sorry might have the wrong business, whoever keeps putting up half a page full of ride instruction all the time.


Just proves that doesn't work then.... You can't even remember the name!

Although, Slander of a business in a public forum is a gutsy move.....







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[Madness]

Although, Slander of a business in a public forum is either an incredibly stupid or gutsy move...

Option A I'm picking.

[nzspokes]

Just proves that doesn't work then.... You can't even remember the name!

Although, Slander of a business in a public forum is a gutsy move.....



As I said I apologize.

[Quasievil]

I think Edbear is now realising that the biggest problem with being involved in the motorcycle industry is that it is full of Motorcylists.

Ed, the above alone is a good reason to perhaps not get involved.

[Maha]

Prorider whore there crap on here multiple times a day but you dont winge about that. You didnt have any problem trying to whore your crap on here either.

You mean their? your shout.

[Edbear]

I think Edbear is now realising that the biggest problem with being involved in the motorcycle industry is that it is full of Motorcylists.

Ed, the above alone is a good reason to perhaps not get involved.

Knockers will knock and haters will hate. I know what to expect from the 'filthy few' on KB and they don't bother me. The really funny thing is that they are so far up themselves they honestly believe they speak for the majority! :whocares:

Fortunately for KB and the rest of society there are sane people around and I have no problems in my personal or business life beyond the same for everyone.

I doubled my turnover since January and last GST period I doubled again my average sales for the last 3mths. I must be doing something wrong. ..:blink:

[bogan]

I must be doing something wrong. ..:blink:

Blatantly lying :yes:

Seems from how 'well' you were doing, and how many times you've 'doubled' your sales/profits etc, you should have no problem supplying good gear like what choppa recommended. Guess there is more margin passing off poorly stitched peeled cow as 1500 race gear :laugh:

[Katman]

I doubled my turnover since January and last GST period I doubled again my average sales for the last 3mths.

You have insecurity issues, don't you?

[Maha]

B1 and B2 have now entered the thread.

[Edbear]

You have insecurity issues, don't you?

Nah, it's just that the idiots are so easy to wind up. No sooner do I comment about them that they post and prove me right. Lol!

Very few on here have even a clue what my business is and how I run it, or rather, them, as I have two main companies and 3 websites. The members who do know me are killing themselves laughing!

[bogan]

Nah, it's just that the idiots are so easy to wind up. No sooner do I comment about them that they post and prove me right. Lol!

Very few on here have even a clue what my business is and how I run it, or rather, them, as I have two main companies and 3 websites. The members who do know me are killing themselves laughing!

Who is winding who up eh Ed?

Seems KM is right on the money, you just gotta keep shitposting to keep those insecurity issues in check...

[Quasievil]

you should have no problem supplying good gear like what choppa recommended.

What makes you think the stuff Choppa mentioned is any better ? as far as I can see its nothing remarkable and its all completely accessible by anyone who wants to get involved in the industry.
The barriers to entry in the Bike parts / apparel industry are as follows

1/ A Computer
2/ A Internet connection

which is why there are so many in it, thats all.

[bogan]

What makes you think the stuff Choppa mentioned is any better ?

More stitches, obviously, jeez Quasi we've been over this already...

[Katman]

The members who do know me are killing themselves laughing!

Maha laughs at anything though Ed.

He's stupid like that.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Rider training is hardly crap if you ask me. I used kb's brain trust to guide my product development if that is what you mean?



Hmm, guess the trip back up to a high road shall be a very long one for you eh Drew :lol:

Don't worry about me taking shit online too personally either, my neckbeard shields me from such danger.

and your tinfoil lined fedora, m'lady.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Nah, it's just that the idiots are so easy to wind up. No sooner do I comment about them that they post and prove me right. Lol!

Very few on here have even a clue what my business is and how I run it, or rather, them, as I have two main companies and 3 websites. The members who do know me are killing themselves laughing!

In the limited dealings I have had with your company/companies, I have been entirely satisfied. Just saying, same as I would say if I wasn't happy.

[Edbear]

In the limited dealings I have had with your company/companies, I have been entirely satisfied. Just saying, same as I would say if I wasn't happy.

Thanks mate. I do try, and some would say I am the most trying of all. ..:pinch:

[Maha]

Maha laughs at anything though Ed.

He's stupid like that.

Your persistence to post like a spotty third former in any 'Ed Thread' is all the humour I need :niceone:

[bogan]

Your persistence to post like a spotty third former in any 'Ed Thread' is all the humour I need :niceone:

Showing you age a bit there Maha, the advent of teenage shitposting on the internet occurred after Third Form was renamed as Year 9.

The irony of you using juvenile insults to call out another's juvenile behavior is also not lost on me :whistle:

[Drew]

Showing you age a bit there Maha, the advent of teenage shitposting on the internet occurred after Third Form was renamed as Year 9.

The irony of you using juvenile insults to call out another's juvenile behavior is also not lost on me :whistle:

That is not ironic. It's hypocritical.

Irony, is you posting ABOUT it in kind.

I fucken hate the word. I can never achieve it on purpose, and my head implodes trying to define it.

[Drew]

Showing you age a bit there Maha, the advent of teenage shitposting on the internet occurred after Third Form was renamed as Year 9.

The irony of you using juvenile insults to call out another's juvenile behavior is also not lost on me :whistle:

Oh yeah, I was fifth form when internet started becoming a house hold fixture IIRC. So teenage shitposting would have been a third form thing.

[bogan]

That is not ironic. It's hypocritical.

Irony, is you posting ABOUT it in kind.

I fucken hate the word. I can never achieve it on purpose, and my head implodes trying to define it.

I dunno, it depends on the intent doesn't it? Like the irony is he is being unintentionally hypocritical.


Oh yeah, I was fifth form when internet started becoming a house hold fixture IIRC. So teenage shitposting would have been a third form thing.

Forums came along a bit later though. I was Year 9 before I started shitposting on forums that is for sure; been making up for lost time ever since :bleh:

[nodrog]

bloody kids these days!

[Drew]

I dunno, it depends on the intent doesn't it? Like the irony is he is being unintentionally hypocritical.
Gah. See, head imploding! Where's Allanis when ya need an example of irony?



Forums came along a bit later though. I was Year 9 before I started shitposting on forums that is for sure; been making up for lost time ever since :bleh:
Chat rooms man, the fad which shitposting all stems from.

[AllanB]

Edbear - WTF is it with your posts! A simple for sale is now 6 pages!!!! And it does not appear to be sold yet :brick:

[Edbear]

bloody kids these days!

Boy's will be boy's. My son is probably older than most of them.








More mature as well. .. <_<

[HenryDorsetCase]

all it needs is boobs, Hitler and kittens and it will win the internet.

[Edbear]

Edbear - WTF is it with your posts! A simple for sale is now 6 pages!!!! And it does not appear to be sold yet :brick:

Well y'see the sensible ones get in early and post or PM then the kiddies start chiming in for their necessary ego stroking, and to the amusement of the aforementioned, to keep it going.

If I don't post regularly, the children get withdrawal symptoms and get frustrated. As it has been a while, they feel that they need to keep it going as long as possible in case I take another long break.

[bogan]

Edbear - WTF is it with your posts! A simple for sale is now 6 pages!!!! And it does not appear to be sold yet :brick:

The real reason is our concerns are well founded enough that Ed sees no option but to resort to personal attacks to try and discredit us. Look to the mighty Shorai thread for all the evidence you need there, funnily enough he did eventually tire of having his incompetence shown and stopped posting in that one. Same thing happened with his latest attempt at religious programming too, wonder how long this one will take...

I'll repeat some earlier advice Ed, stop with the personal attacks, if we have product questions that should be answered, then do so professionaly; if we are as full of shit as you claim, others are plenty capable to decide that for themselves.

[BuzzardNZ]

Well y'see the sensible ones get in early and post or PM then the kiddies start chiming in for their necessary ego stroking, and to the amusement of the aforementioned, to keep it going.

If I don't post regularly, the children get withdrawal symptoms and get frustrated. As it has been a while, they feel that they need to keep it going as long as possible in case I take another long break.

Well, I must also fall into the kiddie camp then, because I always enjoy reading the friendly banter and subtle digs that one is guaranteed to find in any 'Ed Thread'

Keep up the good work lads and welcome back Ed :woohoo:

[Edbear]

Well, I must also fall into the kiddie camp then, because I always enjoy reading the friendly banter and subtle digs that one is guaranteed to find in any 'Ed Thread'

Keep up the good work lads and welcome back Ed :woohoo:

Nah, you're one of the sideline spectators. You can identify the wee ones by the fact that they bite immediately to clearly identify themselves. ..

[scracha]

I dunno, it depends on the intent doesn't it? Like the irony is he is being unintentionally hypocritical.



Forums came along a bit later though. I was Year 9 before I started shitposting on forums that is for sure; been making up for lost time ever since :bleh:

Forums pre-dated WWW/HTML.

[Edbear]

Lol! Now the red repping starts! One or two think that posting abusive foul language with their red rep makes them extra cool!

What is really so hilarious is that when I talk about children, kiddies and wee ones with ego issues, I get an immediate response from the same two or three members who proceed to get more and more abusive with each post.

Especially the likes of Madness who gets quite apoplectic.

[bogan]

Lol! Now the red repping starts! One or two think that posting abusive foul language with their red rep makes them extra cool!

What is really so hilarious is that when I talk about children, kiddies and wee ones with ego issues, I get an immediate response from the same two or three members who proceed to get more and more abusive with each post.

Especially the likes of Madness who gets quite apoplectic.

See Ed, this is exactly to what my previous advice refers to. There is no reason for a reasonable salesman to go on about forum rep received; in fact isn't the purpose of forum rep to allow users to voice their agreement/disagreement directly without cluttering up the thread? To post about it, especially in such vagues terms only serves as an attempt to discredit those who disagree with you on other points.

For example, have you figured out what the joinery is like yet? how well fixed the armor parts are? These are important qualities in a race suit; who is repping who with what on the other hand, is not very important qualities to look for when choosing a race suit :innocent:

[BuzzardNZ]

Lol! Now the red repping starts!

Nothing to be too concerned about, you're still only 15th on the list of top Red Rep posters. You'll hit #1 in no time :first:

[Katman]

There is no reason for a reasonable salesman to go on about forum rep received....

It's those insecurity issues I mentioned earlier.

[nzspokes]

Nothing to be too concerned about, you're still only 15th on the list of top Red Rep posters. You'll hit #1 in no time :first:

Whats so great about that? rep is pointless, does nothing.

[BuzzardNZ]

Whats so great about that? rep is pointless, does nothing.

Did I say it was great?

Sure it doesn't do much, but rep is an indicator of how well received ( or not ) a persons post is. Hitting #1 for red rep would seem to indicate many KBers don't think too highly of that persons posts.

[Katman]

Hitting #1 for red rep would seem to indicate many KBers don't think too highly of that persons posts.

I'm working on it.

[Maha]

Did I say it was great?

Sure it doesn't do much, but rep is an indicator of how well received ( or not ) a persons post is. Hitting #1 for red rep would seem to indicate many KBers don't think too highly of that persons posts.

Bullshit, it is stealthily (so some think) used, to say shit that they don't have balls say on the open forum.
Have noticed where Katman sits on that list? along side Dangerous Bastard and skidmark, similar minds work in similar ways.

[Edbear]

Bullshit, it is stealthily (so some think) used, to say shit that they don't have balls say on the open forum.
Have noticed where Katman sits on that list? along side Dangerous Bastard and skidmark, similar minds work in similar ways.

Very often the case. I only get red rep from four members and of those four, only two do it regularly, so if I climb the ranks of those receiving red it is solely due to those members.

So does that show how obsessed they are with me? Only one of them now, adds abusive foul language with it, the other guy seems to be absent from the forum lately.

While most members post according to topic and refrain from personal attacks beyond good humoured banter, the few just can't seem to be normal.

[bogan]

While most members post according to topic and refrain from personal attacks beyond good humoured banter, the few just can't seem to be normal.

:killingme I think that conclusively answers the who is winding who up question form before.

Any chance you're done make personal attacks and want to go back to talking about gear?

[unstuck]

While most members post according to topic and refrain from personal attacks beyond good humoured banter, .

Glad you can see the funny side, ya Godbotherer .:msn-wink:

[Edbear]

Glad you can see the funny side, ya Godbotherer .:msn-wink:

Yeah, it's only a couple of malcontents who wouldn't know the meaning of humour and repartee who make fools of themselves.

[Edbear]

It
took a bit of playing phone tag, but I finally caught up with my contact in the industry to go over the gear and give me his opinion.

The back protector is not worth considering as it is way too short but the rest is okay for the price. However it would be far better to source Knox armour and there is a Knox supplier nearby. The suit was better than he expected and it fitted him well though he said the arms could be a bit tighter. Racers don't like too much slack to catch the wind. I am posting from the cellphone so I will try to upload a couple of pics.

Again he suggested specifying the Knox armour as it is not necessarily genuine European CE approved. The only way to tell is to ask for a copy of the certification. Everything was in the right places and it was comfortable on with good movement bearing in mind that it would "wear in" and stretch a bit. He said he would be happy to wear it on the track.

He said it was double stitched and that I should get them triple stitched but the stitching itself was fine. It has domes on the wrist but should be velcro for comfort as the sleeves are inside the gloves.

The gloves are okay and would be fine but the better ones have SLS on the heels of the palm so I will ask about that as well.
The leather appeared to be good quality cow hide as claimed. I should ask about swapping the plastic shoulder sliders for Titanuim. Finally he suggested to stick to neutral colours and avoid the reds and blues.

[nzspokes]

I like the colours. But may not sell well in colours as you say. They match my bike.

[Edbear]

I like the colours. But may not sell well in colours as you say. They match my bike.

That's the problem. Say you sold your bike and the colour didn't suit your new bike. Most people wouldn't want to buy a new suit to match.

[nzspokes]

That's the problem. Say you sold your bike and the colour didn't suit your new bike. Most people wouldn't want to buy a new suit to match.

Im keeping my bike. No issue.

But yes I do see the point for retail versions. Here we do get limited colour options though. Not everybody wants black.

[Edbear]

Im keeping my bike. No issue.

But yes I do see the point for retail versions. Here we do get limited colour options though. Not everybody wants black.

Yeah, he suggested various options using black, white and grey. I will check what the supplier has in the range.

[jasonu]

It
took a bit of playing phone tag, but I finally caught up with my contact in the industry to go over the gear and give me his opinion.

The back protector is not worth considering as it is way too short but the rest is okay for the price. However it would be far better to source Knox armour and there is a Knox supplier nearby. The suit was better than he expected and it fitted him well though he said the arms could be a bit tighter. Racers don't like too much slack to catch the wind. I am posting from the cellphone so I will try to upload a couple of pics.

Again he suggested specifying the Knox armour as it is not necessarily genuine European CE approved. The only way to tell is to ask for a copy of the certification. Everything was in the right places and it was comfortable on with good movement bearing in mind that it would "wear in" and stretch a bit. He said he would be happy to wear it on the track.

He said it was double stitched and that I should get them triple stitched but the stitching itself was fine. It has domes on the wrist but should be velcro for comfort as the sleeves are inside the gloves.

The gloves are okay and would be fine but the better ones have SLS on the heels of the palm so I will ask about that as well.
The leather appeared to be good quality cow hide as claimed. I should ask about swapping the plastic shoulder sliders for Titanuim. Finally he suggested to stick to neutral colours and avoid the reds and blues.

Looks like he is getting a pretty decent wedgie in pic 2.

[Edbear]

Looks like he is getting a pretty decent wedgie in pic 2.

Nah, he said it was very comfortable. Did a few bends and squats and the longer he wore it the more complimentary he became. I have no hesitation in recommending it. Having two racers, one from the industry, both give it a thumbs up is very reassuring.

Bearing in mind that it is a sample, I am happy to offer it for $550.00. Should I go ahead with them and can get the modifications suggested I will be able to retail them at about the $750 mark.