Dashcam Vigilantes

[R650R]

This disease of filming others driving while ones own behaviour is less than 100% perfect seems to have crossed over from the cycle population into car drivers much like swine flu.
Anyway post here instances of Pots calling the Kettle black, where the wannabe mallcops driving is just as bad as whoever they are complaining about.
First up is this moron whose getting panfried on one of the truck pages at moment for a different vid.
In this one you can see the bus indicating an entire five seconds before the significant moment, not to mention the brake lights of car on left showing that another motorist has at least recognised a potential hazard, yet no change in speed for Mr McScreamy....

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=464272227041038

Anyway also feel free to discuss where this is taking society, will it make the roads safer or will it...

[buggerit]

I would imagine law enforcement could extract speed data from the cameras, that will put a knot their panties:cool:

[pritch]

And he says the :Police: issued a ticket to the bus driver. His situational awareness was non existent. Imagine sharing a piece of road with that twat.
Most of the comments are about as worthy as his driving, but there was one I enjoyed. The best satire is based on at least partial truth..

[Berries]

Daniel Fap seems like a bit of a twat.

I came across this one today which I quite liked.

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[reggie1198]

Was he trying to say he blew a tyre and then crashed or blew a tyre as a result of the impact with the solid wooden posts hold the crash barrier up.
Was riding like a dick anyway and was only a matter of time, he got lucky the 1st time he crossed the centre line.

[DanielM8]

Yeah his surname is Fap, enough said... but dashcams wont do shit for society.. because the law barely knows right from wrong, as you see with the fact that the police support this incapable driver. He was under 60kmh so he must be a good driver

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[unstuck]

Daniel Fap seems like a bit of a twat.

I came across this one today which I quite liked.



:lol::lol::lol: Slow down rossi...That was awesome.:headbang::headbang:

[Berries]

Was he trying to say he blew a tyre and then crashed or blew a tyre as a result of the impact with the solid wooden posts hold the crash barrier up.
Was there commentary? I could only hear moaning.

It's not a crash barrier though, it is purely to stop all that slip debris from falling on the road. When you look at it like that and then consider what would happen if we slid on our arses in to it you have to ask whether it is a good design for being on the outside of a corner?

[thepom]

Ha Ha ha....he rode like a twat !

[willytheekid]

:mellow:sooo lycra's NOT good for highspeed crashing...huh...who would have guessed:shifty:

"I blew my tyre!!!":laugh:...ahhh,..loosing control while speeding and then smashing into a barrier!!! blew that tyre...stupidity mixed with lycra :laugh:

[Geeen]

Daniel Fap seems like a bit of a twat.

I came across this one today which I quite liked.

He was fair hauling down there, but gotta say that blue pickup sounded grouse!

[imdying]

Bus driver changed two lanes at once, and you're not allowed to do that. Very easy to see coming, and very easy to avoid, but still the bus drivers fault.

The other idiot was no better or worse than retard motorcyclists. The Crown Range is not a race track.

[Tazz]

Waste of time doing anything about that. They're both wankers.


His situational awareness was non existent.

To me it sounded like he knew exactly what was going on but was trying to make a point because he had right of way technically. When his buddy is making noises about it you can hear a 'yep'.
Sadly so many NZer's are picks like this and speed up to close gaps rather than slow a little to make them bigger and let a car into traffic.

[BoristheBiter]

Waste of time doing anything about that. They're both wankers.



To me it sounded like he knew exactly what was going on but was trying to make a point because he had right of way technically. When his buddy is making noises about it you can hear a 'yep'.
Sadly so many NZer's are picks like this and speed up to close gaps rather than slow a little to make them bigger and let a car into traffic.

Probably sick of all the wankers that rat race.

[Ender EnZed]

Daniel Fap seems like a bit of a twat.

I came across this one today which I quite liked.


That was awesomely dumb! :first: Mind you, I can easily imagine plenty of motorcyclists would end up that way if you put them on a treadlie at the top of a decent hill.


Was he trying to say he blew a tyre and then crashed or blew a tyre as a result of the impact with the solid wooden posts hold the crash barrier up.


"I blew my tyre!!!":laugh:...ahhh,..loosing control while speeding and then smashing into a barrier!!! blew that tyre...stupidity mixed with lycra :laugh:

You can hear it blow at 2:49 when the text appears, he's not claiming it caused the crash.

[SPman]

I see they've sealed the Crown Range Rd since last I descended it..................

[pritch]

I have only ridden that road in one direction: up.

Mind you, if I was on my push bike I'd rather ride down thanks. Might need new disc pads for the push bike afterward though.

[R650R]

Well I was going to link the truck red light one next but it looks like there's been some serious blowback for McScreamy and all evidence of both vids have been erased off two seperate facebook feeds.


Bus driver changed two lanes at once, and you're not allowed to do that. Very easy to see coming, and very easy to avoid, but still the bus drivers fault.



Bus driver did NOT change two lanes. He was already out of the bus stop early in the sequence, still indicating and pointing at the right lane. Any reasonable motorist should accept its likely to continue into right lane.


Daniel Fap seems like a bit of a twat.

I came across this one today which I quite liked.

What a tool, absolutely flying down that hill. Now just imagine of a poor car or truck driver had been involved in that mix and no go pro, you can just read what the headlines would actually be...
Hopefully the cops investigated this and charged the cyclist, to keep the stats honest but some how i doubt it.
Listening to that guy call 111 was annoying, a pretty obvious location, just get the ambo rolling but the call taker is asking lots of dumb questions. They seem to freak out if you cant spoon feed them GPS coordinates.
One was so bad I hung up on them as several other people were also calling about same crash, several minutes later they ring back and they still dont know where... couldn't get down to victims anyway so found a forestry road sign and then shes all happy...

[Gremlin]

One was so bad I hung up on them as several other people were also calling about same crash, several minutes later they ring back and they still dont know where... couldn't get down to victims anyway so found a forestry road sign and then shes all happy...
When I had to ring one through, with the help of the first local I could give them an actual number on the road (despite me telling them to head either way into the rural road and they couldn't miss it).

Later while giving the statement to a cop I hear over the radio, "Where's that", and a reply of "No idea".

Perhaps GPS co-ord would be better...

[Berries]

I see they've sealed the Crown Range Rd since last I descended it..................
It's pretty good on a bike now.


The Crown Range is not a race track.
I have never seen that particular sign.

[BoristheBiter]

Bus driver did NOT change two lanes. He was already out of the bus stop early in the sequence, still indicating and pointing at the right lane. Any reasonable motorist should accept its likely to continue into right lane.


maybe but an indicator does not give you right of way just shows your intended direction of travel.

A reasonable motorist should have realised it was a bus and they pull out as they indicate.

[imdying]

Bus driver did NOT change two lanes. He was already out of the bus stop early in the sequence, still indicating and pointing at the right lane. Any reasonable motorist should accept its likely to continue into right lane.I'll have to take your word for it now... regardless, an indicator only indicates intent, it's not a carte blanche to change lanes as you see fit. Typical bus driver attitude though, on some level I'm glad this guy held his ground and just crashed into him... would be a common outcome if most people didn't rate self preservation so highly.

[Owl]

Maybe we should adopt the Gold Coast system. Seems to work well.

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[R650R]

I'll have to take your word for it now... regardless, an indicator only indicates intent, it's not a carte blanche to change lanes as you see fit


[QUOTE=BoristheBiter;1130743744]maybe but an indicator does not give you right of way

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Another factor its illegal to overtake at an intersection if that other vehicle is indicating to use that lane.
And there is no such thing as needing permission to change lanes. The bus was indicating its intent a clear five seconds before McScreamy starting sucking the seatcover.
Anyone with half a braincell should recognise this normal akld driving scenario and drive accordingly.

[MisterD]

Might need new disc pads for the push bike afterward though.

I wouldn't take a disc-equipped treadlie down there, too many horror stories of them overheating and fading completely on long descents. Stick to old fashioned rim brakes.

[pritch]

I wouldn't take a disc-equipped treadlie down there, too many horror stories of them overheating and fading completely on long descents. Stick to old fashioned rim brakes.

We'll the discs are on there so... In my favour though I'm never likely to face a downhill run like that as I would first have to ascend the hill. That's not happening.

[BoristheBiter]

Another factor its illegal to overtake at an intersection if that other vehicle is indicating to use that lane.
And there is no such thing as needing permission to change lanes. The bus was indicating its intent a clear five seconds before McScreamy starting sucking the seatcover.
Anyone with half a braincell should recognise this normal akld driving scenario and drive accordingly.

There are two lanes so no overtaking involved.

never said anything about permission, it's called right of way and an indicator isn't enough, he could have had it on all fucking day and it still won't make a difference.

Anyone with half a brain cell would know what the road rules are and use them, regardless of where it is in the country.

[awa355]

Maybe we should adopt the Gold Coast system. Seems to work well.

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A good idea. I have driven buses in peak time traffic, and sometimes the only way to keep to a timetable is to push your way into the traffic.

The bus driver had his indicators going before pulling out. Anyone with half a brain can see that there is a lot of bus sticking out in front of the front wheels. Even with the front wheels staying in the left lane, the front bumper may well swing into the far lane to some degree. The driver also has to take the bus out far enough to ensure the left rear wheels clear any vehicle park directly in front of the bus stop.

The link in R650R's OP wont open so I'm going by my experiences at driving buses.

I was assuming the bus in question was pulling out of a bus stop, not just changing lanes. Which was it?

[R650R]

There are two lanes so no overtaking involved.



You may not pass a vehicle ahead of you that is indicating in reasonable time to move into that lane. At the end of the day the following/overtaking vehicle is always responsible in situations like this.
Judge Judy would certainly call it careless driving by Mc Screamy especially with the multiple ad campaigns we have on let the bus out into traffic in city.




I was assuming the bus in question was pulling out of a bus stop, not just changing lanes. Which was it?

The bus was already 95% out of the bus stop and into the first lane of traffic at T zero. At same time car in left lane is braking to let bus out and you can see bus right indicator on.
From here on in the bus continues on an obvious trajectory towards the second lane while still indicating right. The third lane is a right turn lane with stopped traffic.
At T five seconds McScreamy violates his seatcover and brakes harshly, nearly colliding with front right quarter of bus which by then is about a metre into his lane, still indicating.
At no time does Mc Screamy acknowledge any hazard present or reduce speed till last moment.

[Banditbandit]

Daniel Fap seems like a bit of a twat.

I came across this one today which I quite liked.



The dumb arse bike rider's name just has to be DICK !!!

[BoristheBiter]

You may not pass a vehicle ahead of you that is indicating in reasonable time to move into that lane. At the end of the day the following/overtaking vehicle is always responsible in situations like this.
Judge Judy would certainly call it careless driving by Mc Screamy especially with the multiple ad campaigns we have on let the bus out into traffic in city.



again you are wrong, it is the vehicle changing lanes at make sure it is safe to do so.

Would you be so kind as to post where you are getting your information on road rules from as it seems to very different to what i have.

[pritch]

again you are wrong, it is the vehicle changing lanes at make sure it is safe to do so.


A vehicle may pull out if the way is clear. When the bus pulled out, the way was clear. Busses though don't move quickly from a stop and the gay twat car driver just carried on as if nothing was happening. If the car driver had been operating at even the most basic level of competence that situation would have been avoided.

I was told by a Police Inspector that there is another road rule that says you must not drive so as to cause an accident. My tuppence worth says the car driver would be guilty of that.

[BoristheBiter]

A vehicle may pull out if the way is clear. When the bus pulled out, the way was clear. Busses though don't move quickly from a stop and the gay twat car driver just carried on as if nothing was happening. If the car driver had been operating at even the most basic level of competence that situation would have been avoided.

I was told by a Police Inspector that there is another road rule that says you must not drive so as to cause an accident. My tuppence worth says the car driver would be guilty of that.

I'm not saying he wasn't as you could see what the bus was going to do for ages.
Maybe that just comes with experience.

You could then say the bus driver never looked as the car never changed lanes and stayed at a constant speed so the bus driver should have known he would be pulling out in front of the car.

this is a constant problem on most of the roads where people just put their indicator on and think they have the right to just change lanes whether something is there or not.
If this attitude changes then you will see a lot more courtesy on the road.

[thepom]

Your right there Boris, people indicating and pulling out into traffic at 50 kmph and causing me to brake hard or avoid them if I,m on the bike is a serious problem here in chch....that and running red lights.......also I give cyclists a very wide berth too....I don't care if he thinks he is the king of the road on his bike, if I hit or clip him it could be fatal.....everyone goes home afterwards......

[pzkpfw]

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this is a constant problem on most of the roads where people just put their indicator on and think they have the right to just change lanes whether something is there or not.
If this attitude changes then you will see a lot more courtesy on the road.

Yes, that happens; but much more common in my experience is people deliberately making it hard for others to change lane or merge, or at least making zero attempt to help. The road code (not been able to find it in legislation) used to say it was partly your responsibility to help others merge. Because people don't it becomes necessary to be a bit "pushy" about it.

I think it's the reverse of what you wrote. If people showed more courtesy on the road, letting/helping other people merge and change lanes, then there'd be a lot more less stress out there.

Busses need to pop in and out of traffic, and it's a good idea to encourage busses as they get more people out of cars. Busses often have signs on the back that ask people to let them in. It's an expected behaviour.

Of course a bus shouldn't just jam out in front of someone; but if it indicates long enough, and there's a bit of a gap, it should be able to move out with the expectation that an alert driver (not a driver with a smug "my rights" attitude) lets it in.

[BoristheBiter]

Yes, that happens; but much more common in my experience is people deliberately making it hard for others to change lane or merge, or at least making zero attempt to help. The road code (not been able to find it in legislation) used to say it was partly your responsibility to help others merge. Because people don't it becomes necessary to be a bit "pushy" about it.

I think it's the reverse of what you wrote. If people showed more courtesy on the road, letting/helping other people merge and change lanes, then there'd be a lot more stress out there.

Busses need to pop in and out of traffic, and it's a good idea to encourage busses as they get more people out of cars. Busses often have signs on the back that ask people to let them in. It's an expected behaviour.

Of course a bus shouldn't just jam out in front of someone; but if it indicates long enough, and there's a bit of a gap, it should be able to move out with the expectation that an alert driver (not a driver with a smug "my rights" attitude) lets it in.

Is spend most of my time on the motorway so buses aren't really the problem, well not at peak times, as they are using the bus lanes.

I do how ever have a big problem with rat racers, the ones that go as far as they can up the inside then just push in.
Whether that is merging from an on ramp or if the lane merges after an off ramp or even when they blast up the inside lane then push in.
This is the cause of people failing to let people in.

It's the way NZ seems to be going, really bad manners.

[pzkpfw]

Is spend most of my time on the motorway so buses aren't really the problem, well not at peak times, as they are using the bus lanes.

I do how ever have a big problem with rat racers, the ones that go as far as they can up the inside then just push in.
Whether that is merging from an on ramp or if the lane merges after an off ramp or even when they blast up the inside lane then push in.
This is the cause of people failing to let people in.

It's the way NZ seems to be going, really bad manners.

Yeah that one I'm in two minds on.

The way the (usually too short in NZ) merging lane should work is you (and the people in the other lane) use the length of it to adjust speeds and positions to make/use a safe space, and by the end of the lane you just smoothly slot in.

But in busy traffic where the lane merged into is not moving, it feels "rude" when someone uses the (empty) merging lane to pass a bunch of vehicles. However, merging in at the end of the merging lane is basically correct; and when someone stops right at the start of the merging lane, trying to get a gap to merge into right there - they block a whole bunch of vehicles that could otherwise move onto the merging lane. So yeah, I'm in two minds on that one.

I do both. If I come onto the merging lane by myself I move along to the end and merge there *1. If I come on behind someone else, and they're merging near the start, I'll tend to try to merge in behind the vehicle they merged in front of *2. Like a zip.

(*1 maybe the difference is "surprising" someone versus slowing down near the end of the lane to "gently" slot in.)

(*2 but I have also driven/ridden onto the shoulder, to pass (on the left) someone stopped right at the start of the merging lane, when there's 100 m of clear merging land ahead of them ...)

But: people who move out of a jammed lane, into a merging lane, to go ahead and merge back into the jammed lane (does that happen?) ought to be shot.

[varminter]

If push bike riders keep riding like that the PTB will increase the ACC pament for them...oh.