250 Ninja Manfeild lap record?

[neil_cb125t]

Hey people - I lost a bit of touch with the 250/production class separation/rules etc..... sounds like a young aussie set a record in one class and then set a new record on the same bike in the other class.....

What is the difference between the classes? anyone know the lap record for it/them??

cheers

[Rcktfsh]

Baillie Perriton 1:22.734 race 5 at the national round in March according to MyLaps.

[jellywrestler]

Hey people - I lost a bit of touch with the 250/production class separation/rules etc..... sounds like a young aussie set a record in one class and then set a new record on the same bike in the other class.....

What is the difference between the classes? anyone know the lap record for it/them??

cheers

lachlan epis set a lap record in 250 proddie and fastest lap in development

[neil_cb125t]

Baillie Perriton 1:22.734 race 5 at the national round in March according to MyLaps.

that's pretty unbelievable!!! Im coaching the VMCC development riders who are doing well, very well..... have to work hard for 22s. What modifications are allowed in this class (for nationals) ?

[neil_cb125t]

lachlan epis set a lap record in 250 proddie and fastest lap in development

Was it quicker than a 22? see post above

[Billy]

Was it quicker than a 22? see post above

Lachlan set a new Development class record,1.24.6 from memory,Def in the 24s,You can check it on My laps from round 4 of the NZSBK 2014 series

[jellywrestler]

Baillie Perriton 1:22.734 race 5 at the national round in March according to MyLaps.


that's pretty unbelievable!!! Im coaching the VMCC development riders who are doing well, very well..... have to work hard for 22s. What modifications are allowed in this class (for nationals) ?


Was it quicker than a 22? see post above

don't be so fucking lazy, get on the interweb yaself and find out, or if you're a real coach you'f have you student checking out the rules and mylaps themselves as that's all part of the racing scene...

[Billy]

that's pretty unbelievable!!! Im coaching the VMCC development riders who are doing well, very well..... have to work hard for 22s. What modifications are allowed in this class (for nationals) ?

Apparently you can do whatever you like,Unfortunately like us,You won't want to go down the slippery slope required to achieve a 22,Lachlan had the record,First time ever at Manfeild at a 1.23.8 and the Grant Ramage lowered it to 1,23.5,Thats probably as good as you can expect on a legal machine.

[neil_cb125t]

Lachlan set a new Development class record,1.24.6 from memory,Def in the 24s,You can check it on My laps from round 4 of the NZSBK 2014 series

My laps records for Round 4 are

Announcements
New Track Record (1:25.058) for Development by Lachlan Epis.

and

New Track Record (1:22.734) for 250 Production by Baillie Perriton. Noting Lachlan did a 1:23 in that race.....

[neil_cb125t]

don't be so fucking lazy, get on the interweb yaself and find out, or if you're a real coach you'f have you student checking out the rules and mylaps themselves as that's all part of the racing scene...

thank you for your input - it is very helpful.

PS you were wrong, according to the interweb.

[neil_cb125t]

Apparently you can do whatever you like,Unfortunately like us,You won't want to go down the slippery slope required to achieve a 22,Lachlan had the record,First time ever at Manfeild at a 1.23.8 and the Grant Ramage lowered it to 1,23.5,Thats probably as good as you can expect on a legal machine.

Rodger that - one of our guys did a 1:26.2 today - 3rd time at many on a std 250 still has the pillion seat, road fairings etc. Pretty happy with that, Rogan Chandler did a 1:25.99 chasing him on a RG150 which was also quick for winter!

[jellywrestler]

Apparently you can do whatever you like,Unfortunately like us,You won't want to go down the slippery slope required to achieve a 22,Lachlan had the record,First time ever at Manfeild at a 1.23.8 and the Grant Ramage lowered it to 1,23.5,Thats probably as good as you can expect on a legal machine.

when perriton set it in the last race he was on a borrowed bike...

[jellywrestler]

thank you for your input - it is very helpful.

PS you were wrong, according to the interweb.

bad hair day is it? or that time of the month, please correct me on the wrong bit so i know betterer next time

[Billy]

when perriton set it in the last race he was on a borrowed bike...

I'm WELL aware who's bike he was on and if you had ALL the info over last seasons goings on,You'd know what I do,As many others do

[Billy]

Rodger that - one of our guys did a 1:26.2 today - 3rd time at many on a std 250 still has the pillion seat, road fairings etc. Pretty happy with that, Rogan Chandler did a 1:25.99 chasing him on a RG150 which was also quick for winter!

Yip,

Saw that,Both very impressive,Good work by all involved,Followed young Regan about 18 months ago at Taupo on his RG and he showed reasonable pace then,Is that an injected bike?

[jellywrestler]

lachlan epis set a lap record in 250 proddie and fastest lap in development so I was correct with this


My laps records for Round 4 are

Announcements
New Track Record (1:25.058) for Development by Lachlan Epis.

and

New Track Record (1:22.734) for 250 Production by Baillie Perriton. Noting Lachlan did a 1:23 in that race.....

my statement stands; lachlan epis set A lap record in the 250 proddie , as he did early in the meeting which grant ramage later bettered and then baillie perriton bettered in the last race




PS you were wrong, according to the interweb.

[roogazza]

Grant Ramage ? One of the 'Damages' ??? well bugger me.:laugh:

[neil_cb125t]

Yip,

Saw that,Both very impressive,Good work by all involved,Followed young Regan about 18 months ago at Taupo on his RG and he showed reasonable pace then,Is that an injected bike?

Its a 09 carby - he did put a end can on it last round which apparently made a big difference.

[Shaun Harris]

Its a 09 carby - he did put a end can on it last round which apparently made a big difference.






Good on ya for your coaching work man

[Billy]

Its a 09 carby - he did put a end can on it last round which apparently made a big difference.

Funny how that works aye,

In reality,With standard jetting there was only .1 of a horsepower increase between standard muffler and a slip on,There are some good gains to be made with jetting etc that are legal,Tell him to contact me when he's ready,If he's interested.

[quickbuck]

Funny how that works aye,



In reality,With standard jetting there was only .1 of a horsepower increase between standard muffler and a slip on,There are some good gains to be made with jetting etc that are legal,Tell him to contact me when he's ready,If he's interested.




Totally agree Billy.
All an end can does is make it sound better and save a few kilos.

Regan is going faster due to the coaching mostly.....

Oh, also Chappy, talk to me on Monday about the records as I actually raced in the Nationals in 250 Production. I will fill you in on all......
We won't start here or else this will be another 30 page thread! ;)

I recommend also talking to Billy when Regan has developed his riding as far as you can take it....
Fiberglass and a few other things will help too.

Vic Club committee are quite impressed at the work CSS has done with the 2 Scholarship riders.






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[jellywrestler]

Grant Ramage ? One of the 'Damages' ??? well bugger me.:laugh:

yip; there's still some fight in the old dog yet.

[Bert]

.....
,Lachlan had the record,First time ever at Manfeild at a 1.23.8 and the Grant Ramage lowered it to 1,23.5,Thats probably as good as you can expect on a legal machine.


My laps records for Round 4 are

Announcements
New Track Record (1:25.058) for Development by Lachlan Epis.....


Rodger that - one of our guys did a 1:26.2 today - 3rd time at many on a std 250 still has the pillion seat, road fairings etc. Pretty happy with that, Rogan Chandler did a 1:25.99 chasing him on a RG150 which was also quick for winter!


Before the thread decends further into the darkness (that was this years nationals)..

The good thing about yesterday's efforts was the fact that these were the fastest times we have seen from our development guys in winter conditions for a long time....


I'd like to say well done Chappy (and Lee) and a big thumbs up to the CSS VMCC programme.
We have two really determined racers coming through this year.

And I'd also like to thank all of those people that have supported the scholarship programme via purchasing raffle tickets and more importantly supplying prizes.

Note worthy, Bernie, Steve and Robert for making their time available for our new& junior riders via the lunch time sessions. They have been great and everyone has taken something away with them.


In terms of the 250 rules and what can be modified...
http://www.mnz.co.nz/docs/default-source/rules/appendix-i---250-production.pdf?sfvrsn=2

[Billy]

Before the thread decends further into the darkness (that was this years nationals)..

The good thing about yesterday's efforts was the fact that these were the fastest times we have seen from our development guys in winter conditions for a long time....


I'd like to say well done Chappy (and Lee) and a big thumbs up to the CSS VMCC programme.
We have two really determined racers coming through this year.

And I'd also like to thank all of those people that have supported the scholarship programme via purchasing raffle tickets and more importantly supplying prizes.

Note worthy, Bernie, Steve and Robert for making their time available for our new& junior riders via the lunch time sessions. They have been great and everyone has taken something away with them.

Yip,

No real point revisiting that event anyways,Its clear MNZ have no intention of enforcing any rules anyway,I was more pointing Neil in the direction of whats achievable with their machine so they don't go chasing rainbows,Good work again Neil and Lee,You have clearly made a difference to the scholarship program

[neil_cb125t]

Yip,

No real point revisiting that event anyways,Its clear MNZ have no intention of enforcing any rules anyway,I was more pointing Neil in the direction of whats achievable with their machine so they don't go chasing rainbows,Good work again Neil and Lee,You have clearly made a difference to the scholarship program


Cheers fella, yep that's what we want - the good knowledge and correct mods allowed. Regan is aiming for nats next year on this bike so we need it to be sorted to the legal level!!

ill PM you fella on EX bits

[Bert]

Cheers fella, yep that's what we want - the good knowledge and correct mods allowed. Regan is aiming for nats next year on this bike so we need it to be sorted to the legal level!!

ill PM you fella on EX bits

He really needs to sort the foot peg issue...299158

[quickbuck]

He really needs to sort the foot peg issue...]


He is loosing a tenth per corner right there..... I know of a bike with some after market pegs ;)







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[neil_cb125t]

He really needs to sort the foot peg issue...299158

Hmmm does he need to lean it over more? is that slowing him down?? is more lean angle good.............hahahhahahha if only there was a place we could learn about this sort of stuff........ :-)

[neil_cb125t]

Maybe true, his left hand body poss looks pretty good thou, maybe you should copy aaron.......:laugh:


He is loosing a tenth per corner right there..... I know of a bike with some after market pegs ;)







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[Bert]

Hmmm does he need to lean it over more? is that slowing him down?? is more lean angle good.............hahahhahahha if only there was a place we could learn about this sort of stuff........ :-)


Maybe true, his left hand body poss looks pretty good thou, maybe you should copy aaron.......:laugh:

:Oops:

Maybe more about being comfortable. Regan spent a bit of time discussing it..
Simple solution on the way...

[quickbuck]

Hmmm does he need to lean it over more? is that slowing him down?? is more lean angle good.............hahahhahahha if only there was a place we could learn about this sort of stuff........ :-)

Na, I was referring to the friction the pegs dragging on the ground causes.....
I know of a place where you can learn about this stuff......

You can click on my banner if you like ;)

[neil_cb125t]

Na, I was referring to the friction the pegs dragging on the ground causes.....
I know of a place where you can learn about this stuff......

You can click on my banner if you like ;)

Im just poking the tigers - friction is bad yes.

[knee-dragger83]

Thanks for the support fulla's and everyone is right, Chappy and the team at CSS are doing a fantastic job and I'm positive I wouldn't be where I am at the moment without their help.

Sounds like there are plenty of bits to work on to get ready for nationals and plenty of time to be made up if I wanna be up near the front... but should make for a wicked challenge :2thumbsup

Billy have you got a phone number or email I can contact you on? I've lost your number after changing phones at some point

http://tyga-performance.com/site/product_info.php?cPath=72_1045_791_859&products_id=2764
That's where the pipe came from and someone dyno'd the difference in power with a full system... which i don't think we are allowed to run anyway but its certainly interesting to see.

[Billy]

Thanks for the support fulla's and everyone is right, Chappy and the team at CSS are doing a fantastic job and I'm positive I wouldn't be where I am at the moment without their help.

Sounds like there are plenty of bits to work on to get ready for nationals and plenty of time to be made up if I wanna be up near the front... but should make for a wicked challenge :2thumbsup

Billy have you got a phone number or email I can contact you on? I've lost your number after changing phones at some point

http://tyga-performance.com/site/product_info.php?cPath=72_1045_791_859&products_id=2764
That's where the pipe came from and someone dyno'd the difference in power with a full system... which i don't think we are allowed to run anyway but its certainly interesting to see.

Um,

Yea its at the bottom of this post in my signature,But if you can't scroll down that far,075745579. acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz

I should add,DON'T believe everything you read on the internet re HP gains etc,We discovered some good gains by seat of the pants tuning and came up with a setting the "So called experts" told us wouldn't work,Clearly it did.

[budda]

Um,

Yea its at the bottom of this post in my signature,But if you can't scroll down that far,075745579. acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz

Nicely done, Yoda

[knee-dragger83]

[QUOTE=Billy;1130746606]Um,

Yea its at the bottom of this post in my signature,But if you can't scroll down that far,075745579. acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz



hahaha I guess us 21st century techspert kids aren't as on to it as we thought... It completely skipped my mind.
Looks like i still need some forum practise

[Billy]

[QUOTE=Billy;1130746606]Um,

Yea its at the bottom of this post in my signature,But if you can't scroll down that far,075745579. acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz



hahaha I guess us 21st century techspert kids aren't as on to it as we thought... It completely skipped my mind.
Looks like i still need some forum practise

Yea,Wasn't a good look for someone training to be an accountant,Not being able to see the numbers and all haha,Still.....no hurry aye????

[budda]

[QUOTE=knee-dragger83;1130746617]

Yea,Wasn't a good look for someone training to be an accountant,Not being able to see the numbers and all haha,Still.....no hurry aye????

An ACCOUNTANT, involved in Motorcycle racing - YOU'RE MAKING THAT UP !!!!!!:laugh:

[Billy]

[QUOTE=Billy;1130746627]

An ACCOUNTANT, involved in Motorcycle racing - YOU'RE MAKING THAT UP !!!!!!:laugh:

I KNOW.Right,

8th wonder of the world!!!

[budda]

[QUOTE=budda;1130746631]

I KNOW.Right,

8th wonder of the world!!!

Hope his boss doesn't know - he'll get the arse for false pretences on his application:bleh:

[knee-dragger83]

[QUOTE=Billy;1130746632]

Hope his boss doesn't know - he'll get the arse for false pretences on his application:bleh:


Well if studylink and John Key knew what I was actually using my student allowance and course related costs for I'm sure I would get the arse :laugh:

Just a 21st century hero - boring ass accountant by day and wheel spinning motorcycle rider by weekend... that's the plan anyway :niceone:

[mr bucketracer]

i want to be a student now so i can go racing but my wfe said i'm to fat and slow now and i can't spell she said

[budda]

[QUOTE=budda;1130746636]


Well if studylink and John Key knew what I was actually using my student allowance and course related costs for I'm sure I would get the arse :laugh:

Just a 21st century hero - boring ass accountant by day and wheel spinning motorcycle rider by weekend... that's the plan anyway :niceone:

EXCELLENT - Carry on ..........