Teflon John survives another one [Archive]

Banditbandit

23rd July 2014, 11:12

Another MP quits under a cloud .. Claudette Hauiti has gone after misusing a parliamentary charge card ...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11297541&ref=rss

Maurice Williamson goes after interfering in a police investigation ...

Judith Collins and the Chinese dairy company ...

How many more will National and Teflon John survive????

Are the voters really that stupid?

Trade_nancy

23rd July 2014, 11:27

I know who is - now.

Oscar

23rd July 2014, 11:35

Scuba_Steve

23rd July 2014, 11:49

Are the voters really that stupid?

Yes! Sad isn't it

sidecar bob

23rd July 2014, 12:00

Nobody should be surprised. Virtually every Maori thats ever been in Parliament has been caught using taxpayer money inapropriately.

Banditbandit

23rd July 2014, 12:14

Nobody should be surprised. Virtually every Maori thats ever been in Parliament has been caught using taxpayer money inapropriately.

You are kidding me! That is verging on the libellous ... and not true. All the way back to 1866??? And including some very upstanding people.

Banditbandit

23rd July 2014, 12:15

So if he didn't sack her you would be complaining?

A newbie fucks up and gets the arse - what more do you want?

I'm not complaining that he gave her the push ... it's symptomatic of the party ...

Oscar

23rd July 2014, 12:19

I'm not complaining that he gave her the push ... it's symptomatic of the party ...

It's symptomatic of politicians.
Don't make me give you a list of the Labour rejects over the years - dirty movies, pissing in hotel corridors, drunken driving...

scrivy

23rd July 2014, 12:23

Nobody should be surprised. Virtually every Maori thats ever been in Parliament has been caught using taxpayer money inapropriately.

Just 'cause you can't buy $90 undies...... :whistle::shutup::facepalm:

Well, big enough ones to hold ya ball bag in......

willytheekid

23rd July 2014, 12:30

Nobody should be surprised. Virtually every Maori thats ever been in Parliament has been caught using taxpayer money inapropriately.
:pinch:
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ef/ef41927b0de795d7ae8b9fa3155da9c7094154f03dc7daab14 2a667d5ada2526.jpg

...there all politicians!
Which means...there ALL self serving, country sell out, corporate chinese back scratchers! who have there own agenda, and will always rip this country and its people off to service there own greed!

KILL THEM ALL!!...tis the only cure IMHO :yes:

HenryDorsetCase

23rd July 2014, 12:47

Nobody should be surprised. Virtually every MP thats ever been in Parliament has been caught using taxpayer money inapropriately.

I fixed that for you, you racist prick.

Banditbandit

23rd July 2014, 13:00

It's symptomatic of politicians.
Don't make me give you a list of the Labour rejects over the years - dirty movies, pissing in hotel corridors, drunken driving...

I don't need that - I can probably name all those scumbags too ..

Yes, it's symptomatic of politicians ... What I don't understand is how come National polls so high ??? These people are shonky ... are the voters blinded by the bullshit????

Teflon John is well named ..

Voltaire

23rd July 2014, 13:32

I don't need that - I can probably name all those scumbags too ..

Yes, it's symptomatic of politicians ... What I don't understand is how come National polls so high ??? These people are shonky ... are the voters blinded by the bullshit????

Teflon John is well named ..

Because they only ring houses with landlines during the day?:eek5:

5150

23rd July 2014, 13:38

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:whistle:

SPman

23rd July 2014, 13:39

The colour of D.C's scarf is much more important than mere governmental corruption........

Quasievil

23rd July 2014, 14:00

Are the voters really that stupid?

yes, but not stupid enough to vote for Labour / Greens

jasonu

23rd July 2014, 14:22

What I don't understand is how come National polls so high ???

..

It's not so much how good National is, more so how pathetic Labor and the rest (of the opposition) is. That is easy to see even from 12000kms away.

p.dath

23rd July 2014, 15:51

How many more will National and Teflon John survive????

Are the voters really that stupid?

The majority of voters seem to be smart enough not to choose a worse option.

Swoop

23rd July 2014, 15:53

Another MP quits under a cloud .. Claudette Hauiti has gone after misusing a parliamentary charge card.
Excellent!

Biff the fucktard who misuses the taxpayer's money.
A LOT of other parties can learn from this.

Good on ANY party leader who does this. Perhaps Mana, Maori, Act, Liarbour, Greens, will all take heed and learn form this.

Trade_nancy

23rd July 2014, 16:12

Banditbandit

23rd July 2014, 16:24

Today on Brekkie TV - the Australian Govt's main finance man was interviewed about his newly released budget which is being branded over the ditch as a toughie. This guy went on to say - NZ went through the tough work over the last few years. He said the Key Govt is widely regarded by world leaders as inspirational for the way they have brought the NZ economy back to the brink of surplus. I for one am not saying that the Aussie Treasurer or the US and UK equivalents are right to cast the Key Govt in such a positive light. I am fairly certain however that they know more about what they are talking about than BanditBandit - on such matters.

Hey - I never claimed to be an economic expert ... you're doing the usual KBer activity of jumping to conclusions ...

I just wonder how many of these scandals and things that Key can survive ... these have hit all parties - and reflected badly on them ..

Just this year, in the Nats ...

Williamson's gone ... interfering with a police investigation ...

Judith Collins is involved with something or other inappropriate with a Chinese diary company ...

Foreign Affairs let a Malaysian diplomat rapist go on "diplomatic immunity" grounds ...

but nothing seems to stick to Teflon John !!!

Drew

23rd July 2014, 16:38

I'm pretty sure that Maori MPs aren't doing anything the rest of the group aren't. Unfortunately for them though, they need to smarten up and get better at it. It comes out loads more when any minority does anything.

Gremlin

23rd July 2014, 16:56

but nothing seems to stick to Teflon John !!!
I think you've proven already you're not a National supporter, but he's dealt with each issue? This latest one, she's gone. If she didn't go, they had already told her there was no way she was coming back into Parliament.

Not sure why you're complaining it's not sticking? You want him to leave when someone else made a mistake? Voters aren't stupid... actually, some are dumber than a fence post, but, what opposition is there? I would hope that the average voter would see how the country is finally succeeding, while plenty of others aren't, the financial balance is looking healthy despite some tough issues. Why would the average person want to piss that away?

On the other hand, we can have someone that apologises... for everything, including apologies...

R650R

23rd July 2014, 17:00

Are the voters really that stupid?

Probably. Remember only half the country bother to vote, the other half knows its a 3 year train wreck no matter who is at the wheel.
And of the half that vote, less than half of them vote for the winning party...
Democracy, governed by the choice of 20%-25% of the population...

MisterD

23rd July 2014, 17:21

but nothing seems to stick to Teflon John !!!

It's probably because what most people see, is a couple of minutes on the news of a smiling, competent sounding (in an atrocious genuine Kiwi aksunt) bloke that answers every question thrown at him in an open, non-dodging way.

Plus they focus-group the shit out of every issue and know exactly which way public opinion is leaning.

Oscar

23rd July 2014, 17:29

Probably. Remember only half the country bother to vote, the other half knows its a 3 year train wreck no matter who is at the wheel.
And of the half that vote, less than half of them vote for the winning party...
Democracy, governed by the choice of 20%-25% of the population...

Fuck, you never let facts get in the way of a good story, do ya?

Voter turnout in 2011 was 74.2%.
Of those 49.34% voted for Govt parties and a further 2.6% voted for the Conservatives.

Democracy, governed by the people who can be arsed getting out to vote (which is just as it should be).

oldrider

23rd July 2014, 17:29

Are the voters really that stupid? "YES"!

Stupidity is dependent upon the perspective of the beholder ... in this case you are the minority!

IMHO because you are just too bloody stuborn to accept that you are wrong!

Teflon John is simply the best of a bad bunch ... "wishing he wasn't" just doesn't cut it! :oi-grr:

sidecar bob

23rd July 2014, 17:55

I fixed that for you, you racist prick.

Is that the same kind of racist as calling a brown person brown?
It seems that ethnicity are just hard wired to do that kind of thing.

admenk

23rd July 2014, 18:33

But Mr Key has such a nice smile.....

willytheekid

23rd July 2014, 18:43

Is that the same kind of racist as calling a brown person brown?
It seems that ethnicity are just hard wired to do that kind of thing.

http://www.presentationsunplugged.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Racist2.jpg

...vote for Bob?:headbang: (You racist mother... ! :killingme)

R650R

23rd July 2014, 18:51

Fuck, you never let facts get in the way of a good story.

Actually I was quoting the local body election numbers, assumed same for GE.
Close enough anyway as only about 93% of eligible voters were enrolled, so that takes the 74 down to near 65%, so still only 30%ish of the eligible population got the right lotto numbers politically speakin...
Hardly a mandate as Keys and co likes to say...

Here's a little exercise for you preelection. Make a note of your chosen Icons promises and policies, read that three years later and see what was actually done. Voting a just a charade to make it look like Everyman has a say...

I'll vote this year though, Mana dot com looks like even better entertainment value than Sir Winston.

AllanB

23rd July 2014, 19:17

Good stuff John. After all WTF else is up for PM? Lame collection of retards this year

unstuck

23rd July 2014, 19:28

Stylo

23rd July 2014, 19:59

Convinced more than ever now to vote for National and John Key after reading this thread ....

God help Labour and the loony left that haven't done their chances any favours at all ..

:facepalm:

Banditbandit

24th July 2014, 10:00

I think you've proven already you're not a National supporter, but he's dealt with each issue? This latest one, she's gone. If she didn't go, they had already told her there was no way she was coming back into Parliament.

Not sure why you're complaining it's not sticking? You want him to leave when someone else made a mistake? Voters aren't stupid... actually, some are dumber than a fence post, but, what opposition is there? I would hope that the average voter would see how the country is finally succeeding, while plenty of others aren't, the financial balance is looking healthy despite some tough issues. Why would the average person want to piss that away?

On the other hand, we can have someone that apologises... for everything, including apologies...

You completely miss my point .. I am certainly not a national supporter - but don't jump to the conclusion that I'm a labour or GreEns supporter either .. there is no conclusion that you can jump to from that statement.

Secondly I am not complaining .. in a sense I am amazed and amused ...

In the same bulletin that announced Hauiti's quit ( a very small news item) a big deal was made of Silent T apparently wearing his red scarf too often ...

I'm just amazed and amused that "Teflon" John survives so many of these things ... when Labour MPs get hammered by everyone ...

Sure they are all MPs .. but Teflon John survives anything ...

(PS - I don't really give a shit who is Government - they are all good and bad .. and we always survive .. and personally, I have done financially well under both Labour and the Nats .. so what difference does that really make?)

Oscar

24th July 2014, 10:11

I'm just amazed and amused that "Teflon" John survives so many of these things ... when Labour MPs get hammered by everyone ...

You must be from Canterbury, you're so one eyed!
Jonathon Coleman just got a hammering in the press and before that it was a constant barrage of Govt Ministers linked to dodgy Chinese businessmen.

Banditbandit

24th July 2014, 10:25

You must be from Canterbury, you're so one eyed!
Jonathon Coleman just got a hammering in the press and before that it was a constant barrage of Govt Ministers linked to dodgy Chinese businessmen.

Yes - exactly - so why does Teflon John's popularity stay so high???

Oscar

24th July 2014, 11:03

Yes - exactly - so why does Teflon John's popularity stay so high???

I honestly don't know.
It is something to do with his "everyman" persona, and the fact that he runs the Govt like a CEO.
It also has a lot to do with the fact that the opposition are incompetent fools. Stuff like Cullen’s “Rich Prick” comment and the colossally stupid accusation that Key was one of the architects of the GFC are manna from heaven for the Torys.

Akzle

24th July 2014, 11:07

Are voters really that stupid?

yes .

avgas

24th July 2014, 11:13

Nobody should be surprised. Virtually every Maori thats ever been in Parliament has been caught using taxpayer money inapropriately.
Sad fact of life is that Politics attracts politicians. A bit like prisons attract prisoners or shit attracts flies.
White Politicians have a few hundred years of refining the art of theft is all. The Maori's will get there eventually.

The bigger question the next generation will face is will the new generation of politicians (Maori + all other races) take the same amount from the public as past generations. Or more?
Either way our kids are screwed worse than us.

avgas

24th July 2014, 11:14

I honestly don't know.
It is something to do with his "everyman" persona, and the fact that he runs the Govt like a CEO.
It also has a lot to do with the fact that the opposition are incompetent fools. Stuff like Cullen’s “Rich Prick” comment and the colossally stupid accusation that Key was one of the architects of the GFC are manna from heaven for the Torys.
http://countermeasures.trendmicro.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/88906971_5b924ce8e9.jpg

avgas

24th July 2014, 11:16

But Mr Key has such a nice smile.....
http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-you-can-go-a-long-way-with-a-smile-you-can-go-a-lot-farther-with-a-smile-and-a-gun-al-capone-281871.jpg

avgas

24th July 2014, 11:17

It's not so much how good National is, more so how pathetic Labor and the rest (of the opposition) is. That is easy to see even from 12000kms away.
What would be John Key equivalent of "Rolling Coal"?
That would be amusing.

Oscar

24th July 2014, 11:25

Actually I was quoting the local body election numbers, assumed same for GE.
Close enough anyway as only about 93% of eligible voters were enrolled, so that takes the 74 down to near 65%, so still only 30%ish of the eligible population got the right lotto numbers politically speakin...
Hardly a mandate as Keys and co likes to say...

Here's a little exercise for you preelection. Make a note of your chosen Icons promises and policies, read that three years later and see what was actually done. Voting a just a charade to make it look like Everyman has a say...

I'll vote this year though, Mana dot com looks like even better entertainment value than Sir Winston.

I think I see your problem.
Politicians are not Icons.
They're people, and to expect them to act otherwise is a mistake.

The whole irony of democracy is that the disaffected, the ones who moan about the world as it is (i.e. the young) , make up a large proportion of those who don't vote.

Trade_nancy

24th July 2014, 12:14

Yes - exactly - so why does Teflon John's popularity stay so high???

He is soooooo good.

Akzle

24th July 2014, 13:04

The whole irony of democracy is that the disaffected, the ones who moan about the world as it is (i.e. the young) , make up a large proportion of those who don't vote.

i dont think you comprehend irony, nor 'democracy' as it exists. Vox populi and what not.
You should probably kill yourself, for the benefit of society. And shit.

awa355

24th July 2014, 13:17

Yes - exactly - so why does Teflon John's popularity stay so high???

Because he appeals to women, and women are more likely to muck about answering polling questions??

I cant believe how low opposition parties have sunk when it comes to leaders with credibility. None of them have any backbone.
Russell Norman seems to the only one who seems to sticks to his beliefs, even if I thinks he's wrong on a lot of things.
I admired Pita Sharples.
Colin Craig comes across as a pasty faced rich mummys boy,
Winnie is a stuck record.
Honi is good entertainment value.
The Internet crowd wouldn't even make the 'Jokes' section on KB.
Is Act still going?

avgas

24th July 2014, 13:23

The whole irony of democracy is that the disaffected, the ones who moan about the world as it is (i.e. the young) , make up a large proportion of those who don't vote.
Almost like some kind of pattern or message?
http://clubpenguincheatz.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/untitled223.png
Dammit - where is SETI when you need them!

This thread needs more pictures
http://www.jasonsummers.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/quote-the-whole-problem-with-the-world-is-that-fools-and-fanatics-are-always-so-certain-of-themselves-bertrand-russell-160424.jpg

oneofsix

24th July 2014, 13:28

Yes - exactly - so why does Teflon John's popularity stay so high???

Because the media still like him and the people that answer polls are also the people that watch what the media says and can't think outside the dogma. Next term, when the businesses running the media have tired of him, or should I say they (nats) have delivered on most of their promises to the 'media' and the Nats are starting to think they nolonger require their puppet masters then you will see a swing. Basically the way it seems to work in NZ is first term be good to the people, (don't sell the family silver for example or interfer in how they raise their kids for examples), second term make good on your promises to the masters that you didn't exactly make clear to the voters, (sell sell sell, exert control), third term the polies start thinking they can go it alone so it is time for the masters to bite back.
:Punk:

Oscar

24th July 2014, 13:37

i dont think you comprehend irony, nor 'democracy' as it exists. Vox populi and what not.
You should probably kill yourself, for the benefit of society. And shit.

Get fucked you anti-semetic rascist cunt.

SPman

24th July 2014, 14:16

Get fucked you anti-semetic rascist cunt.

:girlfight:

:corn:........................

Gremlin

24th July 2014, 14:37

Basically the way it seems to work in NZ is first term be good to the people, (don't sell the family silver for example or interfer in how they raise their kids for examples), second term make good on your promises to the masters that you didn't exactly make clear to the voters, (sell sell sell, exert control), third term the polies start thinking they can go it alone so it is time for the masters to bite back.
:Punk:
Not a bad summary really, seems to go like that. On that note though, why the hell do we have to go through this circus every 3 years? Fucken unproductive considering a change in government. First year is getting to grips, last year is electioneering, so one year of anything that might resemble productivity? Lets not even mention all the costs associated as well.

Push it out to 4-5 years...

Katman

24th July 2014, 15:44

And now we have Gerry Brownlee in the spotlight for bypassing airport security.

He has offered his resignation and John Key has refused to accept it.

HenryDorsetCase

24th July 2014, 16:06

I personally thought Grant Robertson would have been pretty good as leader of the Labour party. Probably not good enough to get me to vote for them (KimDotCom 4 LYF, yo!) but better than Silent.

But the labour factions just would not buy him as a leader. Its a pity.

In other news, in an online poll recently among US presidential candidates, Darth Vader has a handy lead.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/23/darth-vader-is-polling-higher-than-all-potential-2016-presidential-candidates/

Akzle

24th July 2014, 18:50

And now we have Gerry Brownlee in the spotlight

dat nigga fat.

have i mentioned my policy on executing fat fucks?

Quasievil

25th July 2014, 08:50

And now we have Gerry Brownlee in the spotlight for bypassing airport security.

He has offered his resignation and John Key has refused to accept it.

Who Cares :sleep:

oldrider

25th July 2014, 19:48

And now we have Gerry Brownlee in the spotlight for bypassing airport security.

He has offered his resignation and John Key has refused to accept it.

Nothing more to talk about that now is there ... sorted! ... unless you are a member of the oposition! :killingme

Proverb: "It's difficult to soar with the eagles when you are surrounded by turkeys scratching for morsels"! :blip:

avgas

26th July 2014, 06:13

unless you are a member of the oposition!
You mean the general public?

oldrider

26th July 2014, 06:54

You mean the general public?

Largely yes but then if you are PM of NZ the rest of the nation is the oposition and the ring leaders are those that would be PM if they could!

mashman

26th July 2014, 08:11

Get fucked you anti-semetic rascist cunt.

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-24000-Forrest-Gump-Im-not-a-smart-ma-BkAv.jpeg

trustme

26th July 2014, 08:18

Tony Joyce apologises for everything . Cunny gets eviscerated , even the opposition MP's struggled to keep a straight face

http://www.parliament.nz/en-nz/pb/debates/debates/50HansD_20140723_00000012/general-debate

It's not hard for Key to remain popular when he is up against muppets , even cunning fat foreign muppets.