Kim Dot Con

[Stylo]

Heard him on RNZ today, confirmed he's nothing but a criminal, dead man walking ...

The sooner we extradite him the better ..

[Akzle]

1. Theres already a thread.
2. Lame shitstir.

[Maha]

Not sure on the extradition thing, but my support (what little there was) of the man, has dwindled to nothing now really. He said last week that he has more dirt on Key but will leave it untill closer to the election date.. it's my belief, that whatever he has on Key (if anything) wont be worth a mention at all, which is why he does not want speak out now, might make him look a bigger mug (pun intended) than he has in recent times, by joining up with political dropkicks & has beens.

[Oakie]

Not sure on the extradition thing, but my support (what little there was) of the man, has dwindled to nothing now really. He said last week that he has more dirt on Key but will leave it till closer to the election date.. it's my belief that whatever he has on Key (if anything) wont be worth a mention at all which is why he does not want speak out now, might look a bigger mug (pun intended) than he has in resent times, by joining up with political dropkicks & has beens.

He's releasing his 'bombshell' 5 days before the election. To me that just means whatever he has to say will not stand up to scrutiny for more than 5 days.

[AllanB]

No time for him and I have issues with the whole political purchase to serve his own end (if he can find it under that gut).

[pritch]

it's my belief, that whatever he has on Key (if anything) wont be worth a mention at all,

Hard to believe that really. He is apparently bringing Glenn Greenwald to the function at which he plans to produce his "evidence". If you don't know who Greenwald is, you should. Still, all will be revealed in the fullness of time.

The only problem I have is in understanding why Dot Com wants to prove Key a liar. That's a given - for all politicians.

The poll results for the internet party and possibly Mana are currently likely to be artificially low. Most polls are conducted over landline phones. A fairly high percentage of people considering voting for those parties don't have a landline so nobody is asking them who they will vote for. The first time they answer the question will be in the voting booth.

[Berries]

He is apparently bringing Glen Greenwald to the function at which he plans to produce his "evidence". If you don't know who Greenwald is, you should.
The Greenwalds? That's that Chevy Chase fillum isn't it?

[oldrider]

Got asked to respond to an automated phone survey tonight ... at tea time! ... :brick: ... hung up, fuck them! :mad: Automated! :oi-grr:

[avgas]

NSA

No strings attached.

So clearly its the agency for free love.

[Voltaire]

Tempted to give Mana the party vote ....just to throw the Fat amongst the pigeons :laugh:

[YellowDog]

I know quite a few Internet Party members. You get about $50 worth of free food and drink for your $1.50 membership fee. I don't however know anyone dumb enough to vote for anything sponsored by the Jelly Mould himself.

The fake divorce from his wife to allow him to get assets away from the law doesn't seem to have been picked up :blink:

She's a good looking woman. Someone else might start banging it in the meantime :bleh:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9DRNViqC4XA/TzeWlHbZp-I/AAAAAAAAE2Q/Vt8WQkuTuTM/s1600/kim3.jpg

[jasonu]

I can't believe the dumb Kiwi press give that fat Kraut slob so much media.

[scrivy]

She's a good looking woman. Someone else might start banging it in the meantime :bleh:


You wanna stir Kims Dot Cum??


Who the fuck has a spa in a dress shirt????

[MisterD]

The fake divorce from his wife to allow him to get assets away from the law doesn't seem to have been picked up :blink:


Given the court ruling yesterday, if that's what he was trying to do, he's failed at that too.

[YellowDog]

You wanna stir Kims Dot Cum??


Who the fuck has a spa in a dress shirt????

His got her boob in his hand and his knob is up her.......:facepalm:

[Banditbandit]

His got her boob in his hand and his knob is up her.......:facepalm:

His knob is in a very funny place then ...

[scrivy]

His got her boob in his hand and his knob is up her.......:facepalm:

With the size of his gut, he'd need a 30 inch dick to be up her from there.... :lol:

[Sharry]

You wanna stir Kims Dot Cum??


Who the fuck has a spa in a dress shirt????

That's a dress shirt plus a vest. my question is "Who gets into a spa pool covered in make up, sitting on a bad taste blow up bean bag"? :facepalm:

[oldrider]

His knob is in a very funny place then ...

His whole self is in a funny place ... better that he was never here in (Aotearoa/New Zealand) IMHO! :oi-grr:

[Banditbandit]

Kim Dot Com does provide a certain level of amusement ...

[MIXONE]

He's the only one around who has a life size picture of himself on the back of buses.

[mada]

He's the only one around who has a life size picture of himself on the back of buses.

He's also the only one who can beat John Key in cringe factor for the race of self-felatio egotistical self promotion.

[Erelyes]

Considering that NZ has treated him like shit ever since giving him residency (illegal spying on him, raids, siezing all his stuff, etc etc) it's not wonder he wants to drop a pre-election bombshell to hurt John Key.

He might be huge, he might be loaded, he might be up himself..... but we whinge about the rich/powerful getting 'special treatment', and this guy is a case of the opposite, yet you're still hating him.

Tall poppy syndrome: imports not exempt

[Tazz]

Considering that NZ has treated him like shit ever since giving him residency (illegal spying on him, raids, siezing all his stuff, etc etc) it's not wonder he wants to drop a pre-election bombshell to hurt John Key.

He might be huge, he might be loaded, he might be up himself..... but we whinge about the rich/powerful getting 'special treatment', and this guy is a case of the opposite, yet you're still hating him.

Tall poppy syndrome: imports not exempt

To a point. I think the public was very much with him at the beginning of all that though. I was anyway, not so sure now.

[MisterD]

illegal spying on him

You're aware that it was perfectly legal for the Police to have him under surveillance, and it was just that technically the GCSB shouldn't have been helping them? Every legal challenge that he's tried has failed.

[Banditbandit]

You're aware that it was perfectly legal for the Police to have him under surveillance, and it was just that technically the GCSB shouldn't have been helping them? Every legal challenge that he's tried has failed.

That's playing with semantics - a Government agency that had no authority to spy on him was spying on him ...

[Edbear]

I smell a conspiracy... :yes:

[YellowDog]

Considering that NZ has treated him like shit ever since giving him residency (illegal spying on him, raids, siezing all his stuff, etc etc) it's not wonder he wants to drop a pre-election bombshell to hurt John Key.

He might be huge, he might be loaded, he might be up himself..... but we whinge about the rich/powerful getting 'special treatment', and this guy is a case of the opposite, yet you're still hating him.

Tall poppy syndrome: imports not exempt

Not sure how he has been treated like shit. He's on the run and should expect the occasional helicopter with armed police to invade his home. Most other countries would just simply deport him and not allow him to exploit the due process system.

Does he have money, other than what he has taken illegally? His former employees say he certainly doesn't pay anyone he owes it to. The Mana and Internet Parties might be filing for bankruptcy in the not too distant future :o

As for the dirt he claims to have on Junky, I guess he could always try and use this as leverage to maintain his residency.

He has a FAT chance of that happening :no:

[R650R]

I smell a conspiracy... :yes:

Actually when the megaupload story first broke, a few of the better conspiracy sites raised his dubious background... the whole thing is kinda suspicious.
I reckon this could all be part of a giant social experiment. Have him mobilise the youth vote and massively upset the established paradigm. Soon laws are relaxed along with cultural and moral norms being eased.
Young and old clash, economy falters, riots break out.
End result is the Elite et al gets to see what it looks like when a western nation crumbles. They've already had fun with their colour revolutions in Europe but they want a practise run on NZ first before taking down the USA.
USA has gotten too big for its own boots along with too much freedom for ordinary people to become successful and the Elite don't like that, its time for them to start afresh.
And just like another 'player' Jukian assange he is also a 'former' hacker hmmmmmmm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/21/kim-dotcom_n_1221586.html

[R650R]

Who the fuck has a spa in a dress shirt????

Hell it took me ten mins to notice there was someone else in the spa besides her...

Quirks of the rich...

[Oakie]

A fairly high percentage of people considering voting for those parties don't have a landline so nobody is asking them who they will vote for.

And can you offer any figures to back up that statement sir?

[mada]

And can you offer any figures to back up that statement sir?

Its pretty well known that younger votes generally vote for the minor parties (greens, act, etc.) and don't have landlines.



The 2013 Census tells us that 85.5% of NZ households have a landline telephone. This means that landline RDD (random digit dialing) sample frame non-coverage is up 6.1 percentage points, from 8.4% of households in 2006 to 14.5% of households in 2013.

This isn’t the percentage of individuals not covered by landline sampling frames. It’s the percentage of households.

Between 1% and 2% of households will not have access to either a cell phone or landline, so this means the proportion of cell phone only households has increased from somewhere around 6% in 2006 to somewhere around 12-13% in 2013.

http://grumpollie.wordpress.com/2013/12/07/the-number-of-nz-households-with-landlines-and-the-problems-with-phone-surveys/




A survey in 2012 by Canstar Blue found that a third of Generation Y in New Zealand have abandoned landlines; 14 per cent of Generation X and 8 per cent of Baby Boomers.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/christchurch-life/8761615/Landline-phones-heading-for-extinction

[Katman]

That's a dress shirt plus a vest. my question is "Who gets into a spa pool covered in make up, sitting on a bad taste blow up bean bag"? :facepalm:

Tasted him, have you?

[Oakie]

Its pretty well known that younger votes generally vote for the minor parties (greens, act, etc.)

You've done well so far. Now can you find some figures to back that one up?

[pete376403]

related: Who do you believe - Kim Dotcom or John Key?

52% believe Dotcom, 34% for Key

http://www.radiolive.co.nz/Do-you-believe-John-Key-or-Kim-Dotcom/tabid/721/articleID/36969/Default.aspx

[Sharry]

Tasted him, have you?

You obviously have nothing better to use to make your posts numbers grow :yawn:

[MisterD]

Its pretty well known that younger votes generally vote for the minor parties (greens, act, etc.) and don't have landlines.


Their votes are also unlikely to count until they can vote via a Facebook "like"

[mada]

You've done well so far. Now can you find some figures to back that one up?

Cant be fucked..

Feel free to prove me wrong that is not the young voting in the Greens - instead its the old and scared voters who somehow get more benefits from the Greens rather than parties like NZ First and National. :killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme

[Laava]

You wanna stir Kims Dot Cum??


Who the fuck has a spa in a dress shirt????

Jabba the Hun

[Oakie]

Cant be fucked..

Feel free to prove me wrong that is not the young voting in the Greens - instead its the old and scared voters who somehow get more benefits from the Greens rather than parties like NZ First and National. :killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme

Nah, I suspect you're right. Mostly young and idealistic with a few aging hippies thrown in for good balance. I just like to see figures or data to back up assertions that if repeated enough seem to become accepted as fact. One I'm a bit hot on a the moment is this "1 in 4 kids in NZ is living in poverty" ... yet I've never heard anyone explain what the official definition of 'poverty' is. Still that's a topic for another thread. Back to the German shyster.

[Gremlin]

One I'm a bit hot on a the moment is this "1 in 4 kids in NZ is living in poverty" ... yet I've never heard anyone explain what the official definition of 'poverty' is.
Whatever it is, it's seriously differs from the likes of poverty in Africa...

[mada]

Nah, I suspect you're right. Mostly young and idealistic with a few aging hippies thrown in for good balance. I just like to see figures or data to back up assertions that if repeated enough seem to become accepted as fact. One I'm a bit hot on a the moment is this "1 in 4 kids in NZ is living in poverty" ... yet I've never heard anyone explain what the official definition of 'poverty' is. Still that's a topic for another thread. Back to the German shyster.

Nah fuck it bro, lets get it out of the way. :laugh:

It is based on households that are below 60% of the median disposable household income (after housing costs). People often mistake it for being just 60% of the median household income which was $62,000 in 2012, but that doesn't consider tax payments, mortgages/rents etc. The median disposable household income is much lower than the median household income (which in turn is much lower than the "average household income"). Median = the point where half the population are above it and half the population are below it.

Check this out if your interested mate.

http://www.occ.org.nz/assets/Uploads/EAG/Final-report/Final-report-Solutions-to-child-poverty-evidence-for-action.pdf


The median disposable household income (after housing costs) in New Zealand for a family of two adults and two children in 2011 was $1,000 per week (Perry, 2012). (The median varies according to family size and composition.) This means that those with incomes equivalent to 50 percent of the median were receiving $500 per week).

http://i60.tinypic.com/314fj2u.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/nej6tl.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/2vsqo42.jpg



Income is based on the premise it will determine our access to resources and services in society. While another measure ELSI looks at material deprivation - the basics that people don't have (the figures for ELSI show child poverty slightly below the numbers from using income as a measure, but not too far off):

http://i57.tinypic.com/dfvfbd.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/9jnmhl.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/1118mj6.jpg

[mada]

The most damning thing from the report shows NZ's priorities: Look after the golden oldies, fuck the young!

http://i58.tinypic.com/6zmzcx.jpg


Table 1.3 highlights that child deprivation rates in New Zealand are higher than in most Western European countries, but lower than in the poorer countries of Eastern Europe. Such results are not entirely surprising. They reflect the fact that living standards in New Zealand are somewhat lower than in many Western European countries while income inequality is greater. We note that the rate of material deprivation amongst those aged 65 and over in New Zealand is very low by international standards. This suggests that achieving a much lower rate of childhood deprivation is possible if this were a policy priority.

*Note this is talking about deprivation (Lack of basics, not household incomes)

[Oakie]

Nah fuck it bro, lets get it out of the way. :laugh:

It is based on households that are below 60% of the median disposable household income (after housing costs). People often mistake it for being just 60% of the median household income which was $62,000 in 2012, but that doesn't consider tax payments, mortgages/rents etc. The median disposable household income is much lower than the median household income (which in turn is much lower than the "average household income"). Median = the point where half the population are above it and half the population are below it.

Check this out if your interested mate.

http://www.occ.org.nz/assets/Uploads/EAG/Final-report/Final-report-Solutions-to-child-poverty-evidence-for-action.pdf

Thanks for that. Truly am interested. Good to know there is a methodology around it and what it is. I guess that means then that the measure of 'poverty' changes depending on where you live. There'll be a lot of people living in 'poverty' in Christchurch at present the way the rental market is here. I do wonder where the figure of 60% comes from though. (May be in the document but I only skimmed it).

Playing around with these figures then: $62k median less rent @ say the $440 a week my work colleague pays and tax at M tax rate ($243.63 pw) leaves $26541pa x 60% = $15870pa or $305.20 per week to live on after accommodation is paid. So anyone who has $300 a week disposable income after their accomodation is paid is in poverty? Add kids into the mix makes it harder but then they get tax breaks so it's a bit harder to assess the $$$ they have. I don't know if I would call $300 a week to spend 'poverty'. For some it would be a struggle, for others it would be quite manageable I guess (having lived satisfactorily on $240 a week for a year for myself, Mrs Oakie and two daughters a few years back). Obviously first world and third world 'poverty' are two completely different things!

EDIT: And in Wanganui where my daughter rents @ $220 per week, that makes their poverty line $437 per week.

[mada]

Thanks for that. Truly am interested. Good to know there is a methodology around it and what it is. I guess that means then that the measure of 'poverty' changes depending on where you live. There'll be a lot of people living in 'poverty' in Christchurch at present the way the rental market is here. I do wonder where the figure of 60% comes from though. (May be in the document but I only skimmed it).

Playing around with these figures then: $62k median less rent @ say the $440 a week my work colleague pays and tax at M tax rate ($243.63 pw) leaves $26541pa x 60% = $15870pa or $305.20 per week to live on after accommodation is paid. So anyone who has $300 a week disposable income after their accomodation is paid is in poverty? Add kids into the mix makes it harder but then they get tax breaks so it's a bit harder to assess the $$$ they have. I don't know if I would call $300 a week to spend 'poverty'. For some it would be a struggle, for others it would be quite manageable I guess (having lived satisfactorily on $240 a week for a year for myself, Mrs Oakie and two daughters a few years back). Obviously first world and third world 'poverty' are two completely different things!

EDIT: And in Wanganui where my daughter rents @ $220 per week, that makes their poverty line $437 per week.


Yeh I agree, it does depend on where you are living and how much you earning - baring in mind that the 62K is the upper most end of the scale but also as you point housing costs are different depending where you are living.

For me the stats which paint a clearer picture are those for material deprivation - where there are shit load of people who cant cope and would struggle with having to pay a $500 bill in one month. Based on them you probably wouldn't have 270,000 kids in poverty, but still over 200,000. They show the clear difference between Elderly Poverty (which is pretty much non-existant) and Childhood Poverty.

The Commissioner tends to agree:


Under the second approach to measuring poverty, surveys are used to determine the proportion of the population (or children) who cannot afford specific consumption items that most people regard as essential. Such items might include having a raincoat, sturdy shoes and warm clothes, and being able to repair or replace appliances, visit the doctor and keep the house warm in winter. A threshold can then be set, based on the number of items that a family lacks (e.g. three items out of ten), in order to determine the poverty rate. Deprivation measures of this nature provide a more direct indication of poverty than income-based measures as they are an outcome measure based on the standard of living actually achieved. Such measures thus incorporate the ability of a family to use assets, or borrow, to maintain current consumption patterns. Unlike income-based measures, they vividly convey the nature and magnitude of the hardship facing children and their families.

My guess is that INCOME is used more because it is easy to obtain info for (from Census, NZStats, DoL now MBIE Labour workforce / quarterly household surveys. The children's commissioner suggests a comprehensive recording system that involves longitudinal surveys (so going back to the same families and seeing if they have managed to progress out of material deprivation etc.) but such long term studies that involve obtaining information that is not elsewhere and in depth would require more $$$$$$.

Govt. doesn't want to pay $$$$$$ to potentially show a problem that requires more $$$$$$$ to fix.

[scumdog]

Heard him on RNZ today, confirmed he's nothing but a criminal, dead man walking ...

The sooner we extradite him the better ..


Better to render him down.

Make 5 dozen bars of soap out of him eh!:banana:i

[oneofsix]

Better to render him down.

Make 5 dozen bars of soap out of him eh!:banana:i

Still wouldn't be enough to wash the scum off. His persecution has exposed how far our polies have sold out the people of Kiwi land.

[mashman]

Still wouldn't be enough to wash the scum off. His persecution has exposed how far our polies have sold out the people of Kiwi land.

The economoney is everything, irrespective of country. There have been "protests" around the globe that testify to that fact... and in the grand scale kdc is a shot in the arm for politics if they can't nail him, especially when you consider that he has done nothing wrong than get caught and serve the penance that society was legally required to enforce. Many a rich person has thwarted the legal system by being nothing more than an asset to the country. Deemed not a threat to the public as they had only bent the rules to gain money and didn't physically hurt people. The world is absolutely chocca with scum by that measure, but alas, it isn't illegal to be scum.

[Stylo]

Party political broadcast courtesy of the Internet party, posted today.

KDC at his best, inciting young people via free piss to shout F**k John Key !!

Laila must be happy with her new sugar daddy boss, political whore


http://www.radiolive.co.nz/VIDEO-Internet-Party-secretary-Kim-Dotcom-riles-a-crowd-up-into-John-Key-hating-frenzy/tabid/504/articleID/51579/Default.aspx

[oneofsix]

Party political broadcast courtesy of the Internet party, posted today.

KDC at his best, inciting young people via free piss to shout F**k John Key !!

Laila must be happy with her new sugar daddy boss, political whore


http://www.radiolive.co.nz/VIDEO-Internet-Party-secretary-Kim-Dotcom-riles-a-crowd-up-into-John-Key-hating-frenzy/tabid/504/articleID/51579/Default.aspx

he asked what they thought of John, I guess you don't like their answer. :shit:

[Robbo]

Having just watched that vile circus this would have to be an all new low in NZ politics

They have no new or constructive policies, just hatred and disruption.

The sooner the fat bastard is extradited the better

[Stylo]

Having just watched that vile circus this would have to be an all new low in NZ politics

They have no new or constructive policies, just hatred and disruption.

The sooner the fat bastard is extradited the better

And all the scum that float along beside him, shades of the Nazi youth party thing in the '30's.

Maybe he dislikes Key because there's a Jewish connection with his family going way back ?

[Oakie]

I wonder how the honourable people of the Mana Party are feeling with their bed mate now?

[Flip]

Mana who?


10 char

[puddytat]

I wonder how the honourable people of the Mana Party are feeling with their bed mate now?

Pretty fucking stoked I'd say......about time someone started revving up the young of all colours.:clap:

[oldrider]

I wonder how the honourable people of the Mana Party are feeling with their bed mate now?

I would be surprised if there are any and even more surprised if they really give a toss ... just like the rabble that they will stir up initially! :rolleyes: New kid in town syndrome!

[Brett]

Any respect I had for .com has just evaporated after that little Internet/Mana Party vid. The guy actually had a chance to prove he isn't a fat, good for nothing (which I had hoped was the case...sadly not) and instead puts on that circus. That only helped National if nothing else.

[mada]

And all the scum that float along beside him, shades of the Nazi youth party thing in the '30's.

Maybe he dislikes Key because there's a Jewish connection with his family going way back ?

It's pretty obvious why he dislikes Key. He came here and was pulling all the strings of this crony govt., from Coleman to Williamson, and their pal Banksy etc. Until the govt. found they could appease even bigger friends - Warners and US et al. Whats the bet that Key did know him before the raid given he was in his electorate.

Key and Krim were made for each other, and probably have more in common with one another than the do in differences.:laugh:

[avgas]

Said it before and say it again.

Politics attracts politicians ONLY.
People who seek power - usually aren't the best people.

[unstuck]

Said it before and say it again.

Politics attracts politicians ONLY.
.

Not true, seems to attract a fair amount of sheeple around here. All waving their political opinions in the air, like crazy ladies at a Tom Jones concert waving their knickers.
Bloody funny reading some of the drivel though.
Seems to be the same as religion to me, " my view is right" no "my view is right" and all they are doing is running around chasing each others tails while the ones they are arguing over fill their pockets and practice their lies for when things get a little quiet again.
I love watching the human race bring about it's own demise. Keep up the good work.:2thumbsup

[awayatc]

lardi lardi lardi la......(sung off key )

Lardi lardi lardi dee........(paint on moko.......)

Now raise right arm...
and click your heels together......

[Banditbandit]

Any respect I had for .com has just evaporated after that little Internet/Mana Party vid. The guy actually had a chance to prove he isn't a fat, good for nothing (which I had hoped was the case...sadly not) and instead puts on that circus. That only helped National if nothing else.

The populous wants beer and circuses ... Give them what they want and they will vote for you ...

[Tazz]

lardi lardi lardi la......(sung off key )

Lardi lardi lardi dee........(paint on moko.......)

Now raise right arm...
and click your heels together......

Oh fuck off with that sensationalised bullshit. Are sports fans Nazis for chanting in stadiums too? It's definitely in bad taste considering who they but comparing them to Nazis? WTF? Whoever that twat at AU was that gave the media that 'gem' should be banned from lecturing if that is the shit they are throwing around.

Sure, they're a bunch of showboating retards, but Nazis?


http://www.followingthenerd.com/site/wp-content/uploads/star-trek-facepalm.jpg

Oh wait! Sorry guys! They are actually all Nazi's and this is just the tip of the iceberg. I didn't realize it was in the Herald so it is actually well researched and well written, quality, reporting. My bad.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11305639

[Tazz]

The populous wants beer and circuses ... Give them what they want and they will vote for you ...

That remains to be seen. How funny would the best voter turnout and a win for National be this year :lol:

[awayatc]

Oh fuck off with that sensationalised bullshit.

both sarcasm and humor seem to be wasted on you.....

Are you German per chance ?

[Tazz]

both sarcasm and humor seem to be wasted on you.....

Are you German per chance ?

Many things are wasted on me so why not.
Wasn't a personal dig at you as the rant after showed I thought, but whatever. Ridiculousness is starting to hit a nerve.

[Oscar]

Not true, seems to attract a fair amount of sheeple around here. All waving their political opinions in the air, like crazy ladies at a Tom Jones concert waving their knickers.
Bloody funny reading some of the drivel though.
Seems to be the same as religion to me, " my view is right" no "my view is right" and all they are doing is running around chasing each others tails while the ones they are arguing over fill their pockets and practice their lies for when things get a little quiet again.
I love watching the human race bring about it's own demise. Keep up the good work.:2thumbsup

You know that posts like this make you look like a pompous twat, don't you?
What makes you so superior that you are able to sit in judgement?
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and if you don't like that why look at an obviously political thread?

[Banditbandit]

That remains to be seen. How funny would the best voter turnout and a win for National be this year :lol:

It would be a win for Josef Goebells - the father of Propaganda. It would prove al his theories right. (As if it needed proof .. with his propaganda methods the Nazis convinced a whole lot of people in many counties that it was right to kill Jews ...)

But I'm not sure how likely that outcomes is. In the past, a high voter turnout has seen a shift in favour of Labour and the Left .. it might not always have been a big enough shift for the left to win the Government benches, but it is certainly significant ..

The Right always benefits from low voter turnout ...

[Oscar]

It would be a win for Josef Goebells - the father of Propaganda. It would prove al his theories right. (As if it needed proof .. with his propaganda methods the Nazis convinced a whole lot of people in many counties that it was right to kill Jews ...)



Wow, this place is full of cheap shots this morning (not to mention you flirting with Godwin).
We have the spectacle of a fat german funding the left and campaigning by pouring beer down the throats of students and get them to chant like morons, and you say the right is propagandist?

[Katman]

That only helped National if nothing else.

You do realise that about 1/3 of the eligible voting population don't bother to vote, don't you?

A huge percentage of those people are probably teenagers.

I've been wondering which party was going to make a special effort to connect with the non-voters.

We've just found out.

[Banditbandit]

Wow, this place is full of cheap shots this morning (not to mention you flirting with Godwin).

Who the fuck is Godwin?



We have the spectacle of a fat german funding the left and campaigning by pouring beer down the throats of students and get them to chant like morons, and you say the right is propagandist?

Shit no .. they are ALL propagandists .. just that right now DonKey and his minions appear to have the best propaganda ... it's certainly the most effective and demonstrates a good understanding of Goebells principles of propaganda .. unlike the rest, who haven't a clue ...

Come on Oscar .. haven't you had your coffee yet? You should know me better by now ..

[Banditbandit]

You do realise that about 1/3 of the eligible voting population don't bother to vote, don't you?

A huge percentage of those people are probably teenagers.

I've been wondering which party was going to make a special effort to connect with the non-voters.

We've just found out.

Well good luck to them ... that strategy has never really worked for anyone before .. Sure they will turn up to a party and drink free beer, chant slogans .. have a good time .. but get out and vote??? Hell ... they are non-voters ... A few might get out and do it, but come Saturday, they will be too hung over from Friday to care ..

[Oscar]

You do realise that about 1/3 of the eligible voting population don't bother to vote, don't you?

A huge percentage of those people are probably teenagers.

I've been wondering which party was going to make a special effort to connect with the non-voters.

We've just found out.

I think you'll find that 2,278,989 voters out of a possible 3,070,847, makes it more like a quarter of the electorate.
This was an increase from about 20% in the previous two elections, and may just represent a "foregone conclusion" sentiment in 2011.

[Katman]

The populous wants beer and circuses ... Give them what they want and they will vote for you ...


Well good luck to them ... that strategy has never really worked for anyone before ..

Flip flop, much?

[Banditbandit]

Flip flop, much?

You're confusing flippant remarks with serious answers. (Not to mention expecting consistency from a self-confessed anarchic persona .. )

[avgas]

I think you'll find that 2,278,989 voters out of a possible 3,070,847, makes it more like a quarter of the electorate.
This was an increase from about 20% in the previous two elections, and may just represent a "foregone conclusion" sentiment in 2011.
About the same number who voted for Labour eh? :corn:

[Oscar]

You're confusing flippant remarks with serious answers. (Not to mention expecting consistency from a self-confessed anarchic persona .. )

...and you're expecting some of these muppets to have a sense of humour.

[Banditbandit]

...and you're expecting some of these muppets to have a sense of humour.

No, not really - the sense of humour is my own - and for my amusement. I learnt a long time ago that few keyboard warriors have any sense of humour ...

[Oscar]

About the same number who voted for Labour eh? :corn:

I guess if we can get back to the situation where 8 out 10 people participate in the election, that would great.
I don't think you'd do much better than that without making it compulsary.

[Oscar]

No, not really - the sense of humour is my own - and for my amusement. I learnt a long time ago that few keyboard warriors have any sense of humour ...

To be fair, I often find you funny.
I suspect that sometimes you even mean to be funny...

[Banditbandit]

To be fair, I often find you funny.
I suspect that sometimes you even mean to be funny...

I think that's pretty reciprocal ... (I'm not so sure that what you think is funny is meant to be funny tho' ...)

[Oscar]

I think that's pretty reciprocal ... (I'm not so sure that what you think is funny is meant to be funny tho' ...)

“Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing.”
Clive James

[Voltaire]

I might exercise my right to vote.....they keep sending me the forms.
Is there any of the free beer left?:rolleyes:
Why can't it be online as I can't be bothered going to the local school on a Saturday morning.:baby:

[avgas]

I guess if we can get back to the situation where 8 out 10 people participate in the election, that would great.
I don't think you'd do much better than that without making it compulsary.
Or we shift the perception of what we are voting for. That way we don't have to worry about which moron is representing you.

It's a bit like going for your driving test and the instructor asking you which drunk from the pub your want to have in-charge of the steering wheel.

[Oscar]

Or we shift the perception of what we are voting for. That way we don't have to worry about which moron is representing you.

It's a bit like going for your driving test and the instructor asking you which drunk from the pub your want to have in-charge of the steering wheel.

I don't really give a shit who my local MP is.
That's where MMP is inferior to FFP - my MP is resident 250km away.

[HenryDorsetCase]

So, uh. Zer Fuhrer is (now) a NZ nationalist. and he is with an avowedly socialist party in munger.

So we have National Socialists fronted by a charismatic German? What could possibly go wrong?

[Gremlin]

So we have National Socialists fronted by a charismatic German? What could possibly go wrong?
Is there any chance of anything going right? :corn:

[Oakie]

Who the fuck is Godwin?

A guy who postulated that after a certain number of posts in an internet thread, that someone would be called a NAZI.

R

[oldrider]

Godwin: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=godwin

[avgas]

I don't really give a shit who my local MP is.
That's where MMP is inferior to FFP - my MP is resident 250km away.
I did agree with your statement until I found out that FFP doesn't stand for First Fuck the Politician.

You see we should get them poor, and beat them up and then put them in the beehive......not the other way around. Rough them up a little to let them know who is really in charge.

[avgas]

So, uh. Zer Fuhrer is (now) a NZ nationalist. and he is with an avowedly socialist party in munger.

So we have National Socialists fronted by a charismatic German? What could possibly go wrong?
Israel starting a second state in the South Island.

(probably some shit before then too)

[Stylo]

Be interesting to see what comes of his show tonight at the Ak Town Hall.

[R650R]

Yep I think he's smart enough not to be conned by a fake email... Key looked worried when he said it was fake, not his usual cocky laugh it off manner...

[Oakie]

Yep I think he's smart enough not to be conned by a fake email... Key looked worried when he said it was fake, not his usual cocky laugh it off manner...

Would you rather he did laugh it off? I think actually that the worried look comes because he's only got 5 days to disprove the allegations. I've said it before and i'll say it again ... Dot Com has done it five days before the election because the allegations only have to stand up to scrutiny for that long. Could have done it three months ago but knows the allegations would be disproven in that period. I guess its true what they say "Politics is all in the timing"

[oldrider]

There are two lessons to be learned from all this Dot.com shit!

1) Politicians must be more carefull who they let into the country!
and
2) Voters must be more carefull who they allow into government!
Alas
It may already be too late on both counts! :facepalm:

[Oakie]

Funny thing about his claim that NZ let him in here to make his extradition to USA easier. He bloody asked to come here didn't he?! We didn't exactly go and kidnap him.

[Stylo]

Yep I think he's smart enough not to be conned by a fake email... Key looked worried when he said it was fake, not his usual cocky laugh it off manner...

So far a vote for National is the clever vote, wonder how much Kim D C paid to parachute these wankers in to pedal their wares in front of the camera for this parody ?

[skippa1]

That fuckin German needs to fuck right off out of here and take his shit with him

[AllanB]

I can't stand the fat fuck. The only think the government did wrong was not to have the secret service smack him around the head and stick him on a plane back to America.

Fat ungrateful bastard. Oh and a crim to boot.

[Oakie]

Now I can't get too pious as I've downloaded a few old movies myself but I just can't get past him claiming he's done nothing wrong by making millions out of his file sharing site. Sure, people put files there for others to download and he can claim no knowledge but to me thats little different to you allowing people to store stolen motorbikes in your garage. Sure, you didn't go and steal them yourself but you made a space available where they could be stored before they were moved on.

[Robbo]

I can't stand the fat fuck. The only think the government did wrong was not to have the secret service smack him around the head and stick him on a plane back to America.

Fat ungrateful bastard. Oh and a crim to boot.

Absolutely Allan. He's nothing but a fat criminal fuck and should be shot for treason. :angry:

[Stylo]

Now I can't get too pious as I've downloaded a few old movies myself but I just can't get past him claiming he's done nothing wrong by making millions out of his file sharing site. Sure, people put files there for others to download and he can claim no knowledge but to me thats little different to you allowing people to store stolen motorbikes in your garage. Sure, you didn't go and steal them yourself but you made a space available where they could be stored before they were moved on.

Difference is that KDC went a bit further than storing stolen motorbikes, he's a convicted criminal and a wanted man, I have no time for the gentleman for Germany and would rather see him gone.

The sooner the better he's gone the happier we'll all be, fat fuck

[MisterD]

There are only three certainties in life:

1- Death
2- Taxes
3- Kiwis fucking hate any foreigner who tries to tell them what to do.

[Stylo]

Now I can't get too pious as I've downloaded a few old movies myself but I just can't get past him claiming he's done nothing wrong by making millions out of his file sharing site. Sure, people put files there for others to download and he can claim no knowledge but to me thats little different to you allowing people to store stolen motorbikes in your garage. Sure, you didn't go and steal them yourself but you made a space available where they could be stored before they were moved on.

Nice one Oakie

[Erelyes]

Now I can't get too pious as I've downloaded a few old movies myself but I just can't get past him claiming he's done nothing wrong by making millions out of his file sharing site. Sure, people put files there for others to download and he can claim no knowledge but to me thats little different to you allowing people to store stolen motorbikes in your garage. Sure, you didn't go and steal them yourself but you made a space available where they could be stored before they were moved on.

Being devil's advocate here, but to extend your anecdote - He's not providing storage for stolen bikes, he's providing storage for bikes, no questions asked. No-one can see the bike you put there but you. Is that much different to a 'self storage' facility really?

If we started prosecuting self-storage facility owners because 'they should have known' their facilities contained stolen goods how do ya think that'd go down :crazy:

[Oakie]

Being devil's advocate here, but to extend your anecdote - He's not providing storage for stolen bikes, he's providing storage for bikes, no questions asked. No-one can see the bike you put there but you. Is that much different to a 'self storage' facility really?

If we started prosecuting self-storage facility owners because 'they should have known' their facilities contained stolen goods how do ya think that'd go down :crazy:

Your extension falls down when you say "no one can see the bike you put there but you". In this case ... anyone can see it and then take it.

[paturoa]

Being devil's advocate here, but to extend your anecdote - He's not providing storage for stolen bikes, he's providing storage for bikes, no questions asked. No-one can see the bike you put there but you. Is that much different to a 'self storage' facility really?

If we started prosecuting self-storage facility owners because 'they should have known' their facilities contained stolen goods how do ya think that'd go down :crazy:

Technically correct, but he absolutely knew almost all of the bikes were stolen. Choosing not to look at each bike to see if it was stolen, does not mean that he didn't know, and he charged money (which is how he made the millions) from the people "self storing" the stolen bikes.

[Akzle]

There are two lessons to be learned from all this Dot.com shit!

1) Politicians must be more carefull who they let into the country!
and
2) Voters must be more carefull who they allow into government!
Alas
It may already be too late on both counts! :facepalm:
..."must spread"...

Difference is that KDC went a bit further than storing stolen motorbikes, he's a convicted criminal and a wanted man, I have no time for the gentleman for Germany and would rather see him gone.

The sooner the better he's gone the happier we'll all be, fat fuck


I can't stand the fat fuck. The only think the government did wrong was not to have the secret service smack him around the head and stick him on a plane back to America.

Fat ungrateful bastard. Oh and a crim to boot.


That fuckin German needs to fuck right off out of here and take his shit with him
fuck, i sincerely hope he becomes boss of NZ. you whining old white cunts.

if not this round then maybe next.. once a few more of you old white cunts are dead and the youth you've disenfranchised decide to fuck you up with your own game.

well.... either that or :ar15:

[Fatt Max]

fuck, i sincerely hope he becomes boss of NZ. you whining old white cunts.

Cheers Hone,

By the way, what are you riding these days?

[Oakie]

fuck, i sincerely hope he becomes boss of NZ. you whining old white cunts.



'Ere. Why wasn't I on that list? I'm a whining old white 'ladies front bottom' too you know! (Or did you agree with me?)

[skippa1]

..."must spread"...





fuck, i sincerely hope he becomes boss of NZ. you whining old white cunts.

if not this round then maybe next.. once a few more of you old white cunts are dead and the youth you've disenfranchised decide to fuck you up with your own game.

well.... either that or :ar15:
This old white cunt isn't white, still hope the fuckin German fucks off.........shame on your undies

[Laava]

..."must spread"...





fuck, i sincerely hope he becomes boss of NZ. you whining old white cunts.

if not this round then maybe next.. once a few more of you old white cunts are dead and the youth you've disenfranchised decide to fuck you up with your own game.

well.... either that or :ar15:

Bla bla bla same old boring patter...you are very close to being an old white cunt yourself don't forget.

[Laava]

Cheers Hone,

By the way, what are you riding these days?

He's still riding the same old boring guts full of hate that he always rides.

[oldrider]

Tried Googling the big bombshell but it sounds like it was all a big fizzer ... what a pile of horse shit! ... Or have I missed something here? :scratch:

[ellipsis]

Tried Googling the big bombshell but it sounds like it was all a big fizzer ... what a pile of horse shit! ... Or have I missed something here? :scratch:


...you sound like you have some kind of doubt going on...you either are or you are not...or you are an inbetween, which is fuck all use to anybody...

[The End]

Breaking, pun intended:


https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152679677542622&set=vb.256421832621&type=2&theater

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6227921664/hDA59B792/

[AllanB]

Akzle - what's colour got to do with it? I'd not give a shit if he was bright blue, I still think he should fuck off outta NZ.

[AllanB]

Yeah, he will be a great asset to NZ .................


Still pisses me off that the SIS have not taken him out in an unfortunate accident. Everyone would believe it if he was found dead having wedged his arse into a chair then stumbled around the second story trying to release the chair only to flip over the balcony.

My talents are wasted.

[oldrider]

...you sound like you have some kind of doubt going on...you either are or you are not...or you are an inbetween, which is fuck all use to anybody...

Don't understand what you mean?

I was trying to google the result of the giant bombshell Dot.com was to unload onto Key tonight but could find nothing! ... Fizzer!

This is all I could find: http://www.nbr.co.nz/opinion/dotcoms-moment-truth-cheers-cringes-no-bombshell

The sooner they toss that fat german to the Americans the better ... this country doesn't need the likes of him. :oi-grr:

[oldrider]

Humpty dumpty sat on the wall --- Humpty dumpty had a great fall --- All the parties horses and all the parties men --- won't put humpty together again! :thud:

What a bag of political piss and wind ... desperately wanting something to be true, doesn't make it so, no matter how hard you wish it! :sick:

[ruaphu]

Yeah, he will be a great asset to NZ .................


Still pisses me off that the SIS have not taken him out in an unfortunate accident. Everyone would believe it if he was found dead having wedged his arse into a chair then stumbled around the second story trying to release the chair only to flip over the balcony.

My talents are wasted.

Hehehe, yep it would make a feckin great chrissy present to the country. Don't reckon John will send flowers though eh, just a waste of taxpayer dollars and good flowers.

And yep you're right, your talents are soooo wasted, however I've made a note to be sure not to pizz you off though eh, lol


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[trustme]

Was that it !!!!! . Bout as earth shatteringly explosive as ' Pop goes the Weasel '.

[Akzle]

Cheers Hone,

By the way, what are you riding these days?
your mom

'Ere. Why wasn't I on that list? I'm a whining old white 'ladies front bottom' too you know! (Or did you agree with me?)
you are so totally on the list, i just multiquoted from one page, and you're not so special to me that i'd go back pages to quote you.

Akzle - what's colour got to do with it? I'd not give a shit if he was bright blue, I still think he should fuck off outta NZ.
nothing really. "old white cunts" ≂ "jews", but the focus being on stupid political agendas rather than raping everyone for cash.

just a question, for all you haters out there, what harm has he actually done?

[unstuck]

http://desertpeace.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/dont-think.png


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/c0.209.851.315/p851x315/886499_430274097098488_971952476_o.jpg


http://stupidevilbastard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/stupid-people.jpg

[R650R]

Well he was right in the end and so was Key but that's political playing with words again.

Key said GSCB not spying on NZers...true And we don't have a tap on the pacific internet cable.... true

But also true is we have an NSA outpost here at the exchange and of course we have an information sharing agreement with them. Its a bit like a Gang having someone beaten up by their prospects or associates. Technically the gang didn't do the crime but the job gets done. And that's exactly what happens here.

So to think that the govt wouldn't use/access that is not believeable.

And the email, don't think dotcom would be fooled by a fake one, the guy is in the IT business after all.

Govts have spied on their people for generations, we all know that and it doesn't bother me. But they are having to keep this mass surveillance concealed otherwise public will want to know why cant organised crime be stopped or peoples stolen property found. Think about it, wouldn't take much of a decent program to analyse list of stolen goods vs online auctions and ip addresses to start picking up patterns. Same with cellphone movements whose data is recorded and analysed by the telcos to see where to build extra towers etc. Once you pump in a few junkies numbers you could soon extrapolate interactions and map out every tinnie house in the country. And even single use burner phones would get picked up by right analysis.
But if we solve real crime the next on the list is the reckless waste of taxpayer money...

[mashman]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Y1f417ndJ6g/TVwunjA_lwI/AAAAAAAAAEg/wOXJXm1yOZ4/s1600/torches-and-pitchforks-simpson.jpg

[Katman]

I was amused by the choice of Bruce Fergusson, by the media, as an independent commentator.

His references to Edward Snowden and Julian Assange as 'traitors' show him to still be a good old governmental puppet.

He probably considers any New Zealander who considers the spying allegations as credible to be a 'traitor'.

[blue rider]

interesting read

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/snowden-documents-indicate-nsa-has-breached-deutsche-telekom-a-991503.html


Treasure Map is anything but harmless entertainment. Rather, it is the mandate for a massive raid on the digital world. It aims to map the Internet, and not just the large traffic channels, such as telecommunications cables. It also seeks to identify the devices across which our data flows, so-called routers.
Furthermore, every single end device that is connected to the Internet somewhere in the world -- every smartphone, tablet and computer -- is to be made visible. Such a map doesn't just reveal one treasure. There are millions of them.


Treasure Map allows for the creation of an "interactive map of the global Internet" in "near real-time," the document notes. Employees of the so-called "FiveEyes" intelligence agencies from Great Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, which cooperate closely with the American agency NSA, can install and use the program on their own computers. One can imagine it as a kind of Google Earth for global data traffic, a bird's eye view of the planet's digital arteries.


I should have invested in PopCorn Futures ....:corn:

[blue rider]

I was amused by the choice of Bruce Fergusson by the media as an independent commentator.

His references to Edward Snowden and Julian Assange as 'traitors' show him to still be a good old governmental puppet.

He probably considers any New Zealander who considers the spying allegations as credible to be a 'traitor'.


patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel

[Laava]

He is a big bumbling Schultz. "I know nussing!"

[Paul in NZ]

Sweet jesus... You mean the govt has methods of listening in? Gasp....

FFS - the govt, google, FB, microsoft you name it are ALL interested in what you say and do every day. ALL of them have the ability to weasel there way into your life and if interested will know way more about you than you might be comfortable about...

Nothing has ever been really 'private' since man invented language and at every great leap forward from mail to radio to the telephone a man in a dark suit has been closely following along behind with a keen interest... How is this news....

The funny thing about this is the KDC is using hacked and stolen info to 'prove' it. Hes just as bad as they are and is answerable to no one. Freedom is entirely relative and I sure wouldnt want KDC's version of freedom thanks...

[oldrider]

just a question, for all you haters out there, what harm has he actually done?

He came here and tooted his horn .... that simply pissed a lot of NZ'rs off .... if a petition was raised to export him .... he would be gone by lunch time! :yes:

To quote Don Brash's famous last words! :rolleyes:

[Ender EnZed]

I was trying to google the result of the giant bombshell Dot.com was to unload onto Key tonight but could find nothing! ... Fizzer!

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/15/new-zealand-gcsb-speargun-mass-surveillance/

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/15/snowden-new-zealand-surveillance/

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10501778/US-spy-base-in-NZ

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/10502898/Moment-of-truth-do-believe-the-hype

HTH

[oldrider]

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/15/new-zealand-gcsb-speargun-mass-surveillance/

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/15/snowden-new-zealand-surveillance/

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/10501778/US-spy-base-in-NZ

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/10502898/Moment-of-truth-do-believe-the-hype

HTH

All hearsay, wouldn't stand up in court ... nothing new ... no bombshell.

Don't want Key as Prime minister but right now there is nothing "seriously" on offer to replace him and them! ... Says more about NZ and NZr's to me! :facepalm:

[Shaun Harris]

He came here and tooted his horn .... that simply pissed a lot of NZ'rs off .... if a petition was raised to export him .... he would be gone by lunch time! :yes:

To quote Don Brash's famous last words! :rolleyes:


All he has done is cause drama about nothing really and spent a shit load of money in our economy

[mashman]

Says more about NZ and NZr's to me! :facepalm:

Cannot spread again yadda yadda. Best leave them sleeping, they're more useful that way :yes:.

[SPman]

Technically correct, but he absolutely knew almost all of the bikes were stolen. Choosing not to look at each bike to see if it was stolen, does not mean that he didn't know, and he charged money (which is how he made the millions) from the people "self storing" the stolen bikes.I knew many people who put their own bikes there and had them stolen by the US Government!

[SPman]

Well he was right in the end and so was Key but that's political playing with words again.

Key said GSCB not spying on NZers...true And we don't have a tap on the pacific internet cable.... true

Well........Confronted with documentary evidence of a GCSB program called SPEARGUN to tap the Southern Cross Cable (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/15/new-zealand-gcsb-speargun-mass-surveillance/) and spy on all our international internet traffic, Key declassified and released documents (http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1409/S00233/pm-responds-to-incorrect-surveillance-claims.htm) relating to a completely different GCSB spying program (http://img.scoop.co.nz/media/pdfs/1409/Business_Case_4.pdf). SPEARGUN is about tapping cables. Key's CORTEX is about using off-the-shelf software to protect select government departments and key businesses from malware. There's no relation between the two.





But also true is we have an NSA outpost here at the exchange and of course we have an information sharing agreement with them. Its a bit like a Gang having someone beaten up by their prospects or associates. Technically the gang didn't do the crime but the job gets done. And that's exactly what happens here.

So to think that the govt wouldn't use/access that is not believeable. and why does an internal US security service have an outpost in NZ? - are we now just a complete vassal state of the USA? There is the cynical flippant "yes" answer, but, it is totally unacceptable any way you want to put it, and for a government to allow this would have been considered Treason, in earlier times! As it is, they are breaking New Zealand law. They need to be arrested and prosecuted. If convicted, they need to be jailed, deported, and their equipment and buildings seized as instruments of crime.
We should not allow foreign spies to break the law here. Its that simple. Stopping them is supposed to be the GCSB and SIS's job. If they permit it, or turn a blind eye, we can only conclude that they don't work for us anymore and that they need to be shut down.


And the email, don't think dotcom would be fooled by a fake one, the guy is in the IT business after all. - quite true.


Govts have spied on their people for generations, we all know that and it doesn't bother me. ........... and that makes it right and acceptable? The current level of spying on their people is now something the Stasi could only have dreamt about. Yes, there is a case for "keeping an eye on the odd person", but, mass surveillance of the sort now being utilised is neither necessary nor ethical. The fact that it doesn't bother you is also disturbing, in that, if you are prepared to accept this level of surveillance, what are you ultimately prepared to accept - and why do you accept it? Nothing to hide so nothing to worry about. :facepalm: You aren't alone in this - it is rather disturbing the number of people who are quite prepared to be spied on in this way....only collecting metadata......it's still "being spied on", and we have a right to have some privacy in our lives. When it becomes legal for us to go trawling through all the MP's emails, phone calls, etc, etc, then maybe, but until then........

[MisterD]

and why does an internal US security service have an outpost in NZ?

I bet it's no more or less than a single liason officer...

[oldrider]

Of course it bothers us/me that all this is going on but there is nobody any different seriously offering to change it back they are only interested in changing it slightly to suit their own requirements, so better the devil you know etc.

The whole fucking world is spying on itself because the technology to do it is abundant and all around us!

There is no difference between this bullshit left and right politics they are all the fucking same and ultimately dancing to the same tune!

By arguing with one another over that we are simply playing into their hands by distracting ourselves from the real issues!

This fiasco is nothing more than a sideshow circus act meanwhile the main act just carries on unchecked regardless! :mellow:

[avgas]

All hearsay, wouldn't stand up in court ... nothing new ... no bombshell.

Don't want Key as Prime minister but right now there is nothing "seriously" on offer to replace him and them! ... Says more about NZ and NZr's to me! :facepalm:
Reminds me of saying.....you can have shit to eat or Brownies to eat.

(ps: the brownies taste like shit)

[avgas]

Kim Kardashian - Kim Dot Com - NTT Dotcomo - Telecom - Spark - Internet - MegaUpload - Mitre 10 Mega - Renovations - House Prices - Bank Debt - National Debt - World Debt - New World Order - Kanye West....


Its a conspiracy I tell ya.
Fuck knows the question.

[Gremlin]

desperately wanting something to be true, doesn't make it so, no matter how hard you wish it! :sick:
Actually my grandfather was like that. He could have a discussion with someone, but before and after it, he'd churned on it so many times, he was convinced it played out according to his version...

[HenryDorsetCase]

I bet it's no more or less than a single liason officer...

Bro do you even internet?

doesn't mattter who or where they are the NSA is everyfuckingwhere up in our shit. al qaeda Obama NSA etc.

https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en

[Akzle]

if a petition was raised to export him .... he would be gone by lunch time! :yes:

i wouldn't be so sure. unless they were going 'round the old folk's homes.
and anyway... a bunch of signatures is liable to be ignored by the government, as history shows :nya:

[bluninja]

And the email, don't think dotcom would be fooled by a fake one, the guy is in the IT business after all.



He was also in the hacking business. :Oi: Pretty easy to create a forged email. With the resources available to KDC I can't see it being too hard to forge with the appropriate dates, paths and return address. Of course it's even easier for John Key and Warner to say it's a fake. :lol:

[mashman]

Kim Kardashian - Kim Dot Com - NTT Dotcomo - Telecom - Spark - Internet - MegaUpload - Mitre 10 Mega - Renovations - House Prices - Bank Debt - National Debt - World Debt - New World Order - Kanye West....


Its a conspiracy I tell ya.
Fuck knows the question.

Is that Fook Yu or Fook Mi that knows the question?

[bluninja]

Is that Fook Yu or Fook Mi that knows the question?

I think Fook Al has the answer

[Scuba_Steve]

i wouldn't be so sure. unless they were going 'round the old folk's homes.
and anyway... a bunch of signatures is liable to be ignored by the government, as history shows :nya:

"democracy" at work right? :rolleyes:

[mashman]

Of course it bothers us/me that all this is going on but there is nobody any different seriously offering to change it back they are only interested in changing it slightly to suit their own requirements, so better the devil you know etc.

The whole fucking world is spying on itself because the technology to do it is abundant and all around us!

There is no difference between this bullshit left and right politics they are all the fucking same and ultimately dancing to the same tune!

By arguing with one another over that we are simply playing into their hands by distracting ourselves from the real issues!

This fiasco is nothing more than a sideshow circus act meanwhile the main act just carries on unchecked regardless! :mellow:

So if getting access to data is for my safety, then why is it being onsold to all n sundry? I lol at the every man for himself user pays I'm the fuckin alpha so fuck you ideology, so moronic and hypocritical that I wish there were a test for it so that those with the disease could be reprogrammed.

Money is the thing limiting the development of mankind. Such a shame that so many are so addicted to it they'll do anything at any cost to obtain it.

[mashman]

I think Fook Al has the answer

Is that Chinese for avgas?

[oldrider]

He was also in the hacking business. :Oi: Pretty easy to create a forged email. With the resources available to KDC I can't see it being too hard to forge with the appropriate dates, paths and return address. Of course it's even easier for John Key and Warner to say it's a fake. :lol:

As we have seen, he only has to come up with the suggestion and thats good enough proof for the left wingers! :yes:

[R650R]

and that makes it right and acceptable? The current level of spying on their people is now something the Stasi could only have dreamt about. Yes, there is a case for "keeping an eye on the odd person", but, mass surveillance of the sort now being utilised is neither necessary nor ethical. The fact that it doesn't bother you is also disturbing, in that, if you are prepared to accept this level of surveillance, what are you ultimately prepared to accept - and why do you accept it? Nothing to hide so nothing to worry about. :facepalm: You aren't alone in this - it is rather disturbing the number of people who are quite prepared to be spied on in this way....only collecting metadata......it's still "being spied on", and we have a right to have some privacy in our lives. When it becomes legal for us to go trawling through all the MP's emails, phone calls, etc, etc, then maybe, but until then........

The reason I'm not so disturbed about it is at least they will be collecting CORRECT data on me. As opposed to the modern day citizen gossip stasi who've corrupted the data once its been relayed more than once...
I used to be quite a private person then trucking through the night listening to the CB conversations of all and sundry I realised we don't really have any privacy. There are guys out there that all they do all night long is blab on about so and so, his family, where they live, what cars they own etc... And of course this extends to other industries and jobs too. People around us know much more of our private business than many would care to admit.

And the volume of data is so over whelming that your only going to be in the gun sights should you wish to stoop into the world of politics or be a key prosecution witness at a police corruption trial...
That TV show person of interest summed it up well, the machine collects so much data but only a portion of it can be acted upon.

Really if anything we should be worried about the collection of our DNA data if anything. As race specific bioweapons will be the next weapon of choice should we have another hitler on the scene. They are already being developed btw, no prizes for guess which Pariah state is one of the leaders in this field...

[HenryDorsetCase]

As race specific bioweapons will be the next weapon of choice should we have another hitler on the scene. They are already being developed btw, no prizes for guess which Pariah state is one of the leaders in this field...

LOL that is fucking retarded.

[Maha]

He's releasing his 'bombshell' 5 days before the election. To me that just means whatever he has to say will not stand up to scrutiny for more than 5 days.

Looks like we were both correct in our early assumption of how the 'Boobshell' would pan out.

''The dirt on key?.. it's my belief, that whatever he has on Key (if anything) wont be worth a mention at all, which is why he does not want speak out now, might make him look a mug''.


Not a Key supporter, both he and his (close) cohorts will continue to brush aside/deny any revelations about his knowledge of mass spying, thus continually deceiving the NZ public, which a large portion of, can see through his ''not to my knowledge'' line.

[Paul in NZ]

About the only thing we can be sure of is that the internet, which started out as a really great idea, is run by prize arses, spied on by prize arses and exploited by prize arses.... Us users are pretty decent though...

[Stylo]

Looks like we were both correct in our early assumption of how the 'Boobshell' would pan out.

''The dirt on key?.. it's my belief, that whatever he has on Key (if anything) wont be worth a mention at all, which is why he does not want speak out now, might make him look a mug''.


Not a Key supporter, both he and his (close) cohorts will continue to brush aside/deny any revelations about his knowledge of mass spying, thus continually deceiving the NZ public, which a large portion of, can see through his ''not to my knowledge'' line.

Doesn't look like there's a whole lot more to dig, Key won't have many problems getting in, KDC made a dick of himself last night ( his staff would agree ) and Cunliffe has forgotten that he has some people behind him ( who largely don't like him ) hence we don't see or hear from them in the media.

Game over.

[Katman]

I can see the whole mass survaillance thing leading eventually to only one place - a police state.

Countries around the world are already taking steps to suppress their citizens right to protest anything.

Those who simply spout "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about" deserve euthanization.

[skippa1]

I can see the whole mass survaillance thing leading eventually to only one place - a police state.

Countries around the world are already taking steps to suppress their citizens right to protest anything.

Those who simply spout "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about" deserve euthanization.
Dotcom is the man for that

[RogIrwin]

Those who simply spout "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about" deserve euthanization.

The problem is that most people don't understand what they have to hide. They blindly think that they aren't doing anything illegal and so they have nothing to hide. This is of course far from true.

Your information is valuable to all kinds of people for all sorts of reasons. The NSA are collecting your information as Snowen revealed. They claim that it's for tracking terrorists but you can but they are doing more with it. Look what this guy managed to do:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_pqhMO3ZSY

[puddytat]

I can see the whole mass survaillance thing leading eventually to only one place - a police state.

Countries around the world are already taking steps to suppress their citizens right to protest anything.

Those who simply spout "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about" deserve euthanization.

And the first of the corporates (Oceana) are suing a country for stopping them doing their shit. ... Cant wait for the TPPA to fuck us up....make it a hell of a lot easier for them to take over the lot of us.



I see a lot of violence in our future....

[Katman]

Dotcom is the man for that

Hey, I've got no time for the messenger - but the message is an important one.

[ellipsis]

And the first of the corporates (Oceania) are suing a country for stopping them doing their shit. ... Cant wait for the TPPA to fuck us up....make it a hell of a lot easier for them to take over the lot of us.I see a lot of violence in our future....

...I don't think the populace actually knows what the TPPA is about and all this kraut/key wank is helping to keep it out of the picture...not enough kiwis are up with the play and never will be...I see more well deserved self lubrication in the near future...

[Murray]

jeez I'm really scared now I rode my bike without registration on Sunday I'm waiting for the SIS to break down my door and arrest me.

God isn't paranoia brilliant. The end of the world is coming!!

If you have not done anything majorly wrong whats the problem??

[Katman]

If you have not done anything majorly wrong whats the problem??

Refer post #158.

[Murray]

Refer post #158.

Those who think every motorcycle accident is the motorcyclists fault need euthanasia.

About as sensible as your comment post #158

[scumdog]

I can see the whole mass survaillance thing leading eventually to only one place - a police state.

Countries around the world are already taking steps to suppress their citizens right to protest anything.

Those who simply spout "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about" deserve euthanization.

Strap on the tin-foil hat sonny - before it's too late...:msn-wink:

[oldrider]

And the first of the corporates (Oceana) are suing a country for stopping them doing their shit. ... Cant wait for the TPPA to fuck us up....make it a hell of a lot easier for them to take over the lot of us.

I think that your concerns are valid there is a lot to be suspicious and wary of but that has been the case since the beginning of time!

For every man there is another opinion and they are probably all just as as correct as each other the difference is the one that we choose to believe, act upon or follow!

[puddytat]

Tin foil is so 1960.....

way better hats to be got from www.kiwidisposals.co.nz

[oneofsix]

Tin foil is so 1960.....

way better hats to be got from www.kiwidisposals.co.nz

go well with the old motorbike helmet, ca 1981. Should bring back fond memories for some. :lol:

[puddytat]

!

For every man there is another opinion and they are probably all just as as correct as each other the difference is the one that we choose to believe, act upon or follow!

But what about the motives?
Their morals or ethics?
The paycheck or the job & its description? How far will the scumdogs go when ordered, when people want change?
The "if its not about me then I'm not interested" modus operandi of most today, is what will tear our society apart & makes it so much easier to divide & conquer....

As for Murray,
Paranoid.....fuck off.
Some of us see it as being forewarned. The only prize we will receive is that smug feeling of "we told you so" as we too die along side of you as our ecosystem collapses.

Sorry to be the bearer of news that you don't want to hear..:bash:

For those who might like a change...http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/09/16/now-the-work-of-movements-begins-government-corruption-media-bias-youth-voting-and-the-role-of-revolutionaries/

[avgas]

Is that Fook Yu or Fook Mi that knows the question?
Fook mi, Fook Yu.
Fook it always, That's that way is should be
Fook mi, Fook Yu.
Fook it togetha
Naturally

I had a dream I had an awesome dream
People in the park playing games in the dark
And what they played was a masquerade
And from behind of walls of doubt
A voice was crying out
Fook mi, Fook Yu.
Fook it always, That's that way is should be
Fook mi, Fook Yu.
Fook it togetha
Naturally
As we go down life's lonesome highway
Seems the hardest thing to do is to find a friend or two
That helping hand, some one who understands
And when you feel you've lost your way
You've got some one there to say, "I'll show you"
Fook mi, Fook Yu.
Fook it always, That's that way is should be
Fook mi, Fook Yu.
Fook it togetha
Naturally

So you think you know the answers, oh no
Well the whole world has got you dancing
That's right, I'm telling you
It's time to start believing, oh yes
Believing who you are, you are a shining star
Fook mi, Fook Yu.
Fook it always, That's that way is should be
Fook mi, Fook Yu.
Fook it togetha
Naturally

[R650R]

I can see the whole mass survaillance thing leading eventually to only one place - a police state.


Well it can't get here soon enough for me. Crime is epidemic and we have a whole generation of brain damaged ADHD kids with no sense of right or wrong emerging into a society with no jobs for them.
The zombie apocalypse is here. Alcohol will probably subdue them for another decade or so then we will have a tidal wave of disaffected non acheivers running rampant.
A police state does create many jobs so in a paradoxical way it may even out...

Looks like the fun ended today anyway with the announcement of new speed limits, 60-80k on low volume rural highways. Eg all the good stuff that bikes like to play on.

[Katman]

Well it can't get here soon enough for me. Crime is epidemic and we have a whole generation of brain damaged ADHD kids with no sense of right or wrong emerging into a society with no jobs for them.


Trouble is, a police state is probably not likely to be too concerned about them.

Just thinking about organising a protest march will be more likely to see you incarcerated.

[oldrider]

But what about the motives?
Their morals or ethics?
The paycheck or the job & its description? How far will the scumdogs go when ordered, when people want change?
The "if its not about me then I'm not interested" modus operandi of most today, is what will tear our society apart & makes it so much easier to divide & conquer....

You might find some interesting answers to some of your questions Here: http://www.democrats.org.nz/ They don't get much publicity in the controlled press! :oi-grr:

Or you could browse here for different points of view: http://www.positivemoney.org.nz/Site/default.aspx

There is so much more to life than just what gets served up on the menu presented by the so called "status quo"!

[bluninja]

You might find some interesting answers to some of your questions Here: http://www.democrats.org.nz/ They don't get much publicity in the controlled press! :oi-grr:

Or you could browse here for different points of view: http://www.positivemoney.org.nz/Site/default.aspx

There is so much more to life than just what gets served up on the menu presented by the so called "status quo"!

Whatever you want; there is only one Status Quo :rolleyes:


http://youtu.be/krK7Q49o6uA

[TheDemonLord]

Trouble is, a police state is probably not likely to be too concerned about them.

Just thinking about organising a protest march will be more likely to see you incarcerated.

In addition (holy shit I agree with Katman) Crime tends to flourish in a police state and corruption goes through the roof

[oldrider]

Well KDC has proved that surveillance is absolutely a necessity in this country since he arrived here at least! :shifty:

[bluninja]

Just a thought. Couldn't John Key get the NSA office in Auckland to check XKeyScore to see if the Warner Brothers email was actually sent? :innocent:

[Paul in NZ]

I can see the whole mass survaillance thing leading eventually to only one place - a police state.

Countries around the world are already taking steps to suppress their citizens right to protest anything.

Those who simply spout "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about" deserve euthanization.


The real problem is that the things you need to hide are entirely subjective... Whats OK now might not be OK in a few years time and some throw away line typed into a internet forum, dredged up 5 years later and taken out of context might bite you hard...

[oldrider]

All this negative electioneering by miscellaneous fugitives and people with an axe to grind against the National government brings to mind sage words from the past: :shifty:

"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please" ..... Mark Twain! :yes:

[SPman]

Whatever you want; there is only one Status Quo :rolleyes:



there sure is......

http://youtu.be/3BZt6lumdlQ


http://youtu.be/ch5MoXzuB40

[imdying]

If you have not done anything majorly wrong whats the problem??Because maybe something you're doing now will be something wrong later on. Were the Jews doing anything wrong? How about homosexuals? Left handers?

[bluninja]

Because maybe something you're doing now will be something wrong later on. Were the Jews doing anything wrong? How about homosexuals? Left handers?

Left handers...well they are just sinister :cool:

[buggerit]

Left handers...well they are just sinister :cool:

please dont take the piss out of the handicapped:Oi::lol:

[Banditbandit]

please dont take the piss out of the handicapped:Oi::lol:

That's a lame response

[Swoop]

I laughed at the Tui billboard on the Southern today.

Dotcom@parliament.govt.nz - Yeah Right!

[Oakie]

For a big guy, he's done a pretty remarkable vanishing act since the weekend.

[bluninja]

For a big guy, he's done a pretty remarkable vanishing act since the weekend.


Maybe he had a Mega Download in the bog, or perhaps he's invented a Mega Diet and he's so slim people don't recognise him.

My conspiracy theory... Maybe he wears a fat suit under those clothes and that's why he sweated so much at "the moment of truth", now he's taken it off changed from wearing black and voila....disappeared :cool: After all you only see from elbows and knees down uncovered, and neck up.

[oldrider]

Maybe he had a Mega Download in the bog, or perhaps he's invented a Mega Diet and he's so slim people don't recognise him.

My conspiracy theory... Maybe he wears a fat suit under those clothes and that's why he sweated so much at "the moment of truth", now he's taken it off changed from wearing black and voila....disappeared :cool: After all you only see from elbows and knees down uncovered, and neck up.

Hate for John Key is all that he and Hone had in common ... enough to build a dream on? .............. obviously not! :doh:

[mashman]

Maybe he had a Mega Download in the bog

Praps the reason his missus left him was because he prefers a mega upload.

[bluninja]

Praps the reason his missus left him was because he prefers a mega upload.

More likely because all his shit is encrypted and she can't tell if he's coming or going :shutup:

[SPman]

… The National Party spin doctors have been hard at work, painting him [Dotcom] as an evil German trying to subvert democracy, throwing in a side smear of “secret Nazi”.

The first big charge against him is that he used his wealth to “try to sway the election”. On that front, his mistake was probably being open about what he was up to.

To be clear, this is not at all like the people who pay $10,000 a head for a National Party fundraiser, hoping to entrench their entitlement.

Not a bit like Alan Gibbs, who uses his wealth to keep a party with less than 1 per cent of the vote alive, and pumping its warped ideas into the national dialogue.


Not like Colin Craig, who is using his wealth to finance a platform that many find whacky. No, this is finance provided to the left wing, and as such, is inherently evil. …

Excuse me if I don’t judge this man based on the spin put out by people who engage in dirty politics. Maybe Kim Dotcom can’t be trusted, but we know for sure they can’t be.


And from the Herald as well......http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11331554
Which is how I tend to look at it.
His main fault was getting involved in politics - he won't do that again.....

[caseye]

With any luck he will finally be deported to anywhere butt NZ so he can be stripped of his ill gotten gains and left a whimpering wreck on someones else s foreshore.
Good Riddance.

[Banditbandit]

With any luck he will finally be deported to anywhere butt NZ so he can be stripped of his ill gotten gains and left a whimpering wreck on someones else s foreshore.
Good Riddance.

Yeup . the sooner we are free of John Key the better ...

[Oakie]

Yeup . the sooner we are free of John Key the better ...

Don't go holding your breath.

[mashman]

Where did kdc go? Maybeeeeeee (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/scotland-isis-messages-xbox-call-duty-gamer-join-131029616.html#zPA8CWd)

[oldrider]

Listen to the counting listen to them call, every one for Hone, Laila, fatman and all.

We may not have heard the last of him yet! (fat dot.com) rising like a fat pheonix from the ashes of the election! :whistle: (God forbid!) :(

[awa355]

Ole Honi asked for a re count, now he's missing two votes :laugh:

[MIXONE]

Where did kdc go? Maybeeeeeee (https://uk.news.yahoo.com/scotland-isis-messages-xbox-call-duty-gamer-join-131029616.html#zPA8CWd)

I think he is on holiday in Hawaii.:laugh:

[bluninja]

I think he is on holiday in Hawaii.:laugh:

Can't be the Humpback Whale peak season is January to March

[mashman]

I think he is on holiday in Hawaii.:laugh:

:rofl:, playing golf with 2 of his new buddies eh

[Stylo]

Just about time this wanker called a cab to the airport and ....fucked off home, who thinks ? ...methinks

Internet mogul Kim Dotcom says the United States Justice Department destroyed his marriage.

New Zealand police carried out a raid on his Auckland mansion in 2012 on behalf of the FBI, which is overseen by the US Justice Department.

Dotcom is facing privacy charges relating to his file-sharing website Megaupload and has been fighting against his extradition to the US.

Dotcom said his break up with wife Mona was connected to the stress.

"I blame the Department of Justice for that," he told the New Yorker on Sunday (NZT) in a virtual interview.

"My wife and I we were happy before the case.





"We were living in this completely happy bubble in our happy world and we didn't have any issues."

The couple had five children and had a long term plan, he said.

"This whole raid, everything that happened with the case, you know the continuos restraints and attacks, they just made it so difficult to live a normal life that it affected our relationship.

"For me that is the single, biggest negative outcome of all of this that I've lost my family.

"I will have my kids grow up with a broken family and I will not be with my wife who I loved and that's very sad."

The couple had been married for five years before Dotcom announced the split in May.
Megaupload, Dotcom and other parties filed a motion in the Federal District Court in the Eastern District of Virginia on Friday US time asking the court to dismiss the copyright claims that make up the core of the US government's criminal case against the defendants, his lawyer Ira Rothkin said.

[mashman]

I'm officially broke: Kim Dotcom (https://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/i-m-officially-broke--kim-dotcom-224415077.html)

[avgas]

Why this is still wasting the NZ courts time amazes me. Rather Kangaroo don't ya think?

[ellipsis]

I'm officially broke: Kim Dotcom

...yer not the only one, join the club you sweaty, obese, fat, kraut cunt...

[mashman]

Why this is still wasting the NZ courts time amazes me. Rather Kangaroo don't ya think?

Aye... I kinda feel sorry for the guy, although t'was a bit silly of him to believe that he would be found innocent given the crooks that went after him.

[SPman]

Just about time this wanker called a cab to the airport and ....fucked off home, who thinks ? ...methinks
.


Aaahh - typical NZ reaction - nothing yr regular kiwi likes more than kicking someone when they're down - it's almost a national pastime!

[DavidJones]

Looks like he still got plenty of money for food :P

[Wannabiker]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/75407880/kim-dotcom-loses-extradition-case-files-immediate-appeal

Looks like he failed to convince the judge he should stay here. (but has filed for appeal on that decision):(

[pete376403]

So, will a grateful US government push for the judge to receive something in the New Years honours list? Sir Nevin Dawson perhaps?

[Oscar]

So, will a grateful US government push for the judge to receive something in the New Years honours list? Sir Nevin Dawson perhaps?

If it means that tone deaf crooked German pornographer criminal dick head quits these shores, the Judge should receive a knighthood, a RWC winners medal, and win lotto & NZ idol.

[Voltaire]

If it means that tone deaf crooked German pornographer criminal dick head quits these shores, the Judge should receive a knighthood, a RWC winners medal, and win lotto & NZ idol.

You don't like him then?:laugh:

[Oscar]

You don't like him then?:laugh:

What gave it away?

[Oakie]

Kim Dot Gone.

[jasonu]

Kim Dot Gone.

That fat german cunt had you lot fooled. The whole country spent the last couple of years kissing his fat rich arsehole and sucking his dick every time he said or did something.

[oldrider]

The appeal process is not over yet - lawyers gravy train on the rails and chugging? :wait: . :sleep:

[gsxr]

The appeal process is not over yet - lawyers gravy train on the rails and chugging? :wait: . :sleep:
Lawyers will be the only winners
A s long as they arnt going to go after us old fellas that taped the latest songs off the radio and compiled them and then transferred them on the dual tape deck and shared them with mates .
Copyright infringement no doubt .
If only we had the opportunities then that are available now our music portfolio would be huge and our copyright infringements worthy of imprisonment

[Waihou Thumper]

That fat german cunt had you lot fooled. The whole country spent the last couple of years kissing his fat rich arsehole and sucking his dick every time he said or did something.

Where did you get that notion from? The only ones that were fooled were the idiots Harawira and the Mana party....and of course the gullible voters!
The rest of us here wanted the big fat geezer off our shores. (but the nice looking bride can stay...) :)

[F5 Dave]

Even the voters voted with, , , err well their ballot forms, and worse result than expected.

[Oakie]

Where did you get that notion from? The only ones that were fooled were the idiots Harawira and the Mana party....and of course the gullible voters!
:)

Mainly young kids wasting their first vote. Oh, and the rent-a crowd they used.

[awa355]

The only thing about blob com getting the boot that pisses me off, is Hollywood's NZ agent Donkey earning his commission. :msn-wink:

[awa355]

What is it with fat buggars and money??

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/love-sex/76489885/internet-tycoon-kim-dotcom-reveals-his-new-love-is-aucklander-elizabeth-donnelly

[EJK]

Wait, what happened to the oriental gold digger?

[awa355]

Wait, what happened to the oriental gold digger?

Think she saw the writing on the wall and bailed out.

[Oakie]

Wait, what happened to the oriental gold digger?

Honestly thought their separation was just a scam to keep half of his assets.

[Stylo]

Was that his new girlfriend I saw on the news tonight ?

[carbonhed]

Where did you get that notion from? The only ones that were fooled were the idiots Harawira and the Mana party....and of course the gullible voters!
The rest of us here wanted the big fat geezer off our shores. (but the nice looking bride can stay...) :)


If they can arrange an evening flight to the US for him, window seat economy class, we should organise the biggest fucking fireworks display in the countries history to say "sayonara douchebag". I'd be prepared to put money towards that.

[Oscar]

If they can arrange an evening flight to the US for him, window seat economy class, we should organise the biggest fucking fireworks display in the countries history to say "sayonara douchebag". I'd be prepared to put money towards that.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to carbonhed again.