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Swivel
12th August 2014, 23:14
Hi fellow riders
So happy to share the news that I easily passed the restricted test last month. Alot easy then I thought, at the debrief the instructor stated I failed to signal at the roundabout, I actually thought I never needed to signal when going straight through a roundabout, other then that I was all good to go. I must admit I was a little nervous in the lead up but once on the bike the confidence kicked in.
Just the waiting game for the next stage, so stoked to throw the L plate in the rubbish bin that's for real.

oneblackflag
12th August 2014, 23:19
Hi fellow riders
So happy to share the news that I easily passed the restricted test last month. Alot easy then I thought, at the debrief the instructor stated I failed to signal at the roundabout, I actually thought I never needed to signal when going straight through a roundabout, other then that I was all good to go. I must admit I was a little nervous in the lead up but once on the bike the confidence kicked in.
Just the waiting game for the next stage, so stoked to throw the L plate in the rubbish bin that's for real.

Good on ya. Never bothered with the L plate myself :innocent:

Gremlin
12th August 2014, 23:21
You always indicate when exiting a roundabout (indicate as you pass the exit prior to yours). When turning left, indicate left all the way through. Straight through, only when exiting. Turning right, indicate right until you pass the exit prior to yours, then indicate left.

haydes55
12th August 2014, 23:26
You always indicate when exiting a roundabout (indicate as you pass the exit prior to yours). When turning left, indicate left all the way through. Straight through, only when exiting. Turning right, indicate right until you pass the exit prior to yours, then indicate left.


If only the police knew this :facepalm: and every other road user.

Congrats on the license one step closer to a Busa!

george formby
13th August 2014, 00:03
Congrats.
My G/F just got her 6R, too. Pinged on the same thing, failure to indicate intention to exit round about, in olde speak.
Bit twilight zone.

I think she has already booked her full for the same day next year. Could be intention not fact.

EmBe
13th August 2014, 00:23
Congrats man :woohoo: enjoy the rides :cool:

insomnia01
13th August 2014, 08:16
congrats Bud :msn-wink:

Ulsterkiwi
13th August 2014, 09:15
well done, tis a nice feeling eh?:wings:

unstuck
13th August 2014, 09:36
Well done. :niceone:

Erelyes
13th August 2014, 10:46
Just the waiting game for the next stage, so stoked to throw the L plate in the rubbish bin that's for real.

Well done

Live and learn with indicating at a roundabout, now you can practice it! Personally I do it everywhere even if there's not another vehicle in sight - that way it becomes a habit rather than a concious decision.

george formby
13th August 2014, 10:52
Well done

Live and learn with indicating at a roundabout, now you can practice it! Personally I do it everywhere even if there's not another vehicle in sight - that way it becomes a habit rather than a concious decision.
Yup. When I sat my car test in the days of crank starts & blokes with flags my instructor told me to indicate all changes in position on the road. It may make all the difference to somebody I had not seen. Still makes sense to me. I even indicate at the end of passing lanes.

oneofsix
13th August 2014, 10:55
Congratulations.

Skiwi
15th August 2014, 09:52
Well done

Live and learn with indicating at a roundabout, now you can practice it! Personally I do it everywhere even if there's not another vehicle in sight - that way it becomes a habit rather than a concious decision.

Ditto, caught myself getting slack when clocking up lots of farm track miles, no need to indicate on them right? ....except the no indicating habit started creeping onto my road riding, do it everywhere now.

BlackSheepLogic
15th August 2014, 10:42
Technically, you should indicate three seconds before exiting the roundabout, most roundabouts that's not going to happen.

Erelyes
15th August 2014, 11:06
Technically, you should indicate three seconds before exiting the roundabout, most roundabouts that's not going to happen.

Negative
Road User Rule (http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2004/0427/latest/DLM303071.html)

Clause (5) and (6) do not say anything about a 3 second requirement

BlackSheepLogic
15th August 2014, 11:19
Negative
Road User Rule (http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2004/0427/latest/DLM303071.html)

Clause (5) and (6) do not say anything about a 3 second requirement

2014/2015 Road Code for Motorcyclists - Page 170:
If you are going straight thought a roundabout:
> don't signal as you come up to the roundabout
>signal left as you pass the exit before the one you wish to take. At some small roundabouts, it may not be possible to give three seconds warning, but it is courteous to give as much as you can.

Now, the way I read this is that the three second warning does also apply at roundabouts when possible.

G4L4XY
15th August 2014, 11:38
You always indicate when exiting a roundabout (indicate as you pass the exit prior to yours). When turning left, indicate left all the way through. Straight through, only when exiting. Turning right, indicate right until you pass the exit prior to yours, then indicate left.

So many people indicate right and then left, but that's when they're going straight. Or the indicate right but not left to exit the round a bout...also when going straight.

So, who indicates when no-ones around? ;)

unstuck
15th August 2014, 12:09
So many people indicate right and then left, but that's when they're going straight. Or the indicate right but not left to exit the round a bout...also when going straight.

So, who indicates when no-ones around? ;)

Me, it keeps the habit strong.:2thumbsup

Erelyes
15th August 2014, 12:14
2014/2015 Road Code for Motorcyclists - Page 170:
If you are going straight thought a roundabout:
> don't signal as you come up to the roundabout
>signal left as you pass the exit before the one you wish to take. At some small roundabouts, it may not be possible to give three seconds warning, but it is courteous to give as much as you can.

Now, the way I read this is that the three second warning does also apply at roundabouts when possible.

Fair play, I disagree on how that should be interpreted. The reference to three seconds is added as a clarification to the bulletpoints, the bulletpoints reflecting what is required in plain english.
The clarification is added because giving three seconds is a requirement elsewhere, so here it clarifies that it's not.

At the end of the day though, legislation doesn't make it a requirement and the disclaimer in the road code (http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/motorcycle-road-code/introduction/index.html) says that legislation takes preference over whatever the Road Code might say. So "technically" the 3 seconds goes out the window at roundabouts :)

BlackSheepLogic
15th August 2014, 13:32
Fair play, I disagree on how that should be interpreted. The reference to three seconds is added as a clarification to the bulletpoints, the bulletpoints reflecting what is required in plain english.
The clarification is added because giving three seconds is a requirement elsewhere, so here it clarifies that it's not.

At the end of the day though, legislation doesn't make it a requirement and the disclaimer in the road code (http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/motorcycle-road-code/introduction/index.html) says that legislation takes preference over whatever the Road Code might say. So "technically" the 3 seconds goes out the window at roundabouts :)

I've always thought when exiting a roundabout that the 3-second rule applied (once you pass the preceding exit), but I concede the point on reflection of your reply that the rule is to indicate as you pass the preceding exit.

Gremlin
15th August 2014, 16:31
Look, the requirement to use indicators in a roundabout is law, it's something you have to do. However, arguing the 3 seconds in a roundabout simply isn't practical or feasible. Part of using indicators is to provide information to other road users.


So many people indicate right and then left, but that's when they're going straight. Or the indicate right but not left to exit the round a bout...also when going straight.
I remember following one car into a roundabout. They indicated left, then right, then hazards and then went straight through... :facepalm:

BlackSheepLogic
15th August 2014, 17:55
Look, the requirement to use indicators in a roundabout is law, it's something you have to do. However, arguing the 3 seconds in a roundabout simply isn't practical or feasible. Part of using indicators is to provide information to other road users.

Gremlin, you arrived at this party too late. I conceded the point above.

6ft5
19th August 2014, 14:18
Well done dude, see you on the road :clap: