Do you have kippers in the house?

[PrincessBandit]

With two adult children, one of whom is still at home (nearing the final months of his apprenticeship) I read this article with some amusement. Son is apparently quite happy living at home having gained much more confidence in doing household jobs (esp. fixing things) as he's gone through his apprenticeship; Daughter swapped the safety of the nest for moving in with bf but has finally come into her own, particularly with financial know-how (the fact that she trained and works as a personal banker assisted with that!). She told me recently "wow, if only I'd saved the money I'm spending on rent, food [etc etc etc] while I was living at home..." Well sweetie, it wasn't for the lack of me and dad trying to tell you at the time :facepalm:
Who has "kippers" here? (I thought the Japanese equivalent tag was a bit harsh!) And how have you tossed your fledglings out of the nest?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/10375819/In-no-hurry-to-fly-the-nest

[unstuck]

All 3 of mine were gone by 18. The trick is to make them want to leave, by various different devious means.:shifty::devil2:

[JimO]

im getting one of mine back for at least 6 months next year while he finishes his degree at uni, the main reason being that all the student landlords require the students to sign a 12 month lease and he only has 6 monhts to go before he graduates and may be leaving dunedin to find work, its impossible to find someone to take over a room in the student area for the last 6months of a year so he would have to pay for something he isnt using. the other one rents a house from me with some mates, boy number 3 is in the army so wont be back

[oneofsix]

How about a "kipper" out of the house? out flatting but still a drain on the parents pocket. Have to admit having them out of the house you have a better view of what you are spending on them.
I always told them they were to leave the nest by 18, we even took the nest away from one of them when she was 19.

[Akzle]

what cracker bullshit. Every cunt needs their own house and shit. How many fuken culttres traditionally keep 3 or more generations in one yurt?

[Blackbird]

Hahaha - some great tales there:niceone: . All 3 of ours were planning to go on to varsity whilst they were at school when we were living in Tokoroa. My wife told them they could forget about studying at Waikato just up the road in case they were of a mind to drop off their dirty washing on weekends and hang around to be waited on. It was said as a joke but they went further afield anyway but it still didn't stop them from emptying the freezer when they were passing through!

After graduation, it was the inevitable OE for a few years and when they came back, there were calls for loans to buy cars. Doesn't matter whether they're at home or not, they are still attached to our wallets for quite a time :laugh: . In all fairness though, they all have good jobs now and don't owe us a cent any more!

[mashman]

Nope, don't have kippers of that age and should they want to stay home to save some cash etc... then that's exactly when they will do with my blessing. Does that mean they're being wrapped up in cotton wool (bullshit)? Whilst I'd love to see them leave in some strange way, I'm not going to do it because they are dipping into my pocket.

[avgas]

Moving out of home at the age of 17 taught me how to grow a pair (metaphor) and to grow up.
I shake my heads to see all these kids still living at home - not only a part of me saying "that's unfair"........but part of me wondering if they comprehend how hard life actually is?

Some of life's lessons are best taught. If my kids are allowed to life at home (which might happen because my wife is a p.....lovely person) - the rules will be simple. They have to put (a majority of) the money they would have spent on rent / food - into savings.

No savings - no free lunch.

Because at the end of the day - life's a bitch then she takes half your stuff when you break up.

[unstuck]

My brother inlaw is 43 yrs old and has lived at home his whole life, and has worked at the freezing works since he left school. He makes anywhere between $800-$1100 a week and drives a crappy old car and was paying $100 a week all inclusive. He is a non smoker, non drinker. His father died 2 years ago and his mother died last month. For some reason he is finding life a little hard at the moment. He got the house when the inlaws died, but it is falling down around his ears. He has asked us to help him fix it up, because he has no savings. Anyone care to guess what the response to his request was? :devil2:

[TheDemonLord]

No one told me when I was growing up that when I went flatting, I could sit around in my boxers at midday on a weekday drinking Vodka and Coke and no one bats an eyelid.

That said, I did wait till I was financially stable before moving out

[Ocean1]

Ours were told very early that the minute they left school they'd be paying board not far short of the cost of renting.

When they eventually did get jobs they both spent time at home, paying board. We banked it, of course, and gave it back to them when they started looking to buy their first houses.

They didn't know that at the time, though.

[nodrog]

The politically correct term is "money munchers".

The correct term is "lazy useless cunts".

[ellipsis]

...our first three left home around 16, to get away from me, I would hazard a guess......our youngest who is coming up 21 seems glued here...but that's cool...he has just about finished his apprenticeship and he is welcome to stay here as long as it takes...technically I'm fucked in this world of electronics, ethereal communications, as is his mother...he's quite handy to have around plus we hardly ever see him...was cool when we started having less stuff to do for them...now the highlights of the year are when they are all back at home for a bit...

[yokel]

With two adult children, one of whom is still at home (nearing the final months of his apprenticeship) I read this article with some amusement. Son is apparently quite happy living at home having gained much more confidence in doing household jobs (esp. fixing things) as he's gone through his apprenticeship; Daughter swapped the safety of the nest for moving in with bf but has finally come into her own, particularly with financial know-how (the fact that she trained and works as a personal banker assisted with that!). She told me recently "wow, if only I'd saved the money I'm spending on rent, food [etc etc etc] while I was living at home..." Well sweetie, it wasn't for the lack of me and dad trying to tell you at the time :facepalm:
Who has "kippers" here? (I thought the Japanese equivalent tag was a bit harsh!) And how have you tossed your fledglings out of the nest?

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/10375819/In-no-hurry-to-fly-the-nest

The simplest explanation is that the male population is emasculated.

There's no real male to female relationship dynamic anymore

[bluninja]

All 3 were out sooner than I'd liked for various reasons. My son had to leave just before he turned 17 due to his uncontrolled violent outbursts.......I still have the smashed wooden door :angry:

He came up for dinner last week and promptly lost it for 45 minutes because his girlfriend had texted her previous bf (of over a year ago) to say hi. The "losing it" included verbal abuse to everybody at full volume, punching himself ("fight club" style) in the face and head so hard he bust the skin on 1 knuckle and had his face swollen up, punching a concrete wall till all his knuckles bled, and chasing one of our dogs out of the garden cos it was frightened. Nobody but him was physically hurt, and we managed to not have the police involved. It just reminded me vividly why he doesn't live at home :gob:

[TheDemonLord]

All 3 were out sooner than I'd liked for various reasons. My son had to leave just before he turned 17 due to his uncontrolled violent outbursts.......I still have the smashed wooden door :angry:

He came up for dinner last week and promptly lost it for 45 minutes because his girlfriend had texted her previous bf (of over a year ago) to say hi. The "losing it" included verbal abuse to everybody at full volume, punching himself ("fight club" style) in the face and head so hard he bust the skin on 1 knuckle and had his face swollen up, punching a concrete wall till all his knuckles bled, and chasing one of our dogs out of the garden cos it was frightened. Nobody but him was physically hurt, and we managed to not have the police involved. It just reminded me vividly why he doesn't live at home :gob:

Wow.

Your son needs to get some help before he ends up in Jail and someone ends up in a coffin.

[SPman]

A mate has a 38 y.o. son still living at home - complete with a recording mixing studio - he's building a new 2 storey house with one bedroom and selling the current house when it's ready! :facepalm:

My first wife's Aunt had 2 sons come back home to live, aged about 60, after their marriages ended......:shit:

[RJC]

I am doing it wrong, my parents came to live with me when I was 24.


it was for 4 months while their house was finished, but it ended up being 7-8 months.


I stung them board, it was gold.

[slofox]

My daughter kept coming back home until she was over 30...every time it resulted in her and her mother fighting like fuck and me tearing my hair out. But I solved it, all in one fell swoop.

I moved out myself. Never looked back.

[swarfie]

Friends of ours son and his fianc�e just moved back home "to save money"... to get married. He's 27, still hasn't got his drivers licence, hasn't worked much at all (currently part time while studying "business management"). Fianc�e works full time though...at least she's got some sense...enough to tell him to walk home from the pub when he rang up asking for a lift home :laugh:
His parents offered to give them the money for the extravagant wedding they've got planned, for the deposit on a house but they declined because they want to have a knees up :weird:
Parents are letting them live at home rent free......:doh: FAR too soft IMO.

[bluninja]

Wow.

Your son needs to get some help before he ends up in Jail and someone ends up in a coffin.

He's had help, (some of it court ordered) was thrown out of a teenage drug and alcohol addiction programme and was then locked up for a total of 13 months for what he did when drunk and high on 2 occasions during an 18 month period. He has met his victim and seen the effects of one punch (self defence but excessive force according to the judge) on someone's future, and that of their children, but it doesn't sink in and stay.

He's been advised to seek more help, and that the next episode of violent threatening behaviour I witness will involve the police.

[The Reibz]

Was out of home when I was 17. My younger brother is still there at 23, works full time making more money than me, and has 3 cars which need to be constantly shifted to allow anyone access to the property. Fair to say mum might be over it...

[oldrider]

Hahaha - some great tales there:niceone: . All 3 of ours were planning to go on to varsity whilst they were at school when we were living in Tokoroa. My wife told them they could forget about studying at Waikato just up the road in case they were of a mind to drop off their dirty washing on weekends and hang around to be waited on. It was said as a joke but they went further afield anyway but it still didn't stop them from emptying the freezer when they were passing through!

After graduation, it was the inevitable OE for a few years and when they came back, there were calls for loans to buy cars. Doesn't matter whether they're at home or not, they are still attached to our wallets for quite a time :laugh: . In all fairness though, they all have good jobs now and don't owe us a cent any more!

The older you get the more you realise that your kids are the only things that really matter in life!

Even our handicapped bloke still does his uttermost to be totally independant and make his own way!

As long as they trying to be the best that they can be, they can bleed me dry if they need to (unfortunately not a lot to bleed) ... can't take it with me! :oi-grr:

[yokel]

The older you get the more you realise that your kids are the only things that really matter in life!

Even our handicapped bloke still does his uttermost to be totally independant and make his own way!

As long as they trying to be the best that they can be, they can bleed me dry if they need to (unfortunately not a lot to bleed) ... can't take it with me! :oi-grr:

I dodged the bullet in having kids, I just couldn't do it
but thats now catching up with me dam it

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[Blackbird]

The older you get the more you realise that your kids are the only things that really matter in life!

Even our handicapped bloke still does his uttermost to be totally independant and make his own way!

As long as they trying to be the best that they can be, they can bleed me dry if they need to (unfortunately not a lot to bleed) ... can't take it with me! :oi-grr:

Absolutely John :niceone: They worked part-time going through varsity and we cleared any debt at the end of it all, then told them to make their way using their brains. We loaned them money when they needed it at no interest but they had to commit to regular repayments. And you know what? Although they'll always be our kids, they're also our best friends. Worked out perfectly!

[Woodman]

My Parents sold up and moved to the North Island leaving me homeless at the tender age of 21.

[swarfie]

Although they'll always be our kids, they're also our best friends. Worked out perfectly!

Ours are also awesome, both hard working (that's in their genes I guess), conscientious and making their way in the world and we're bloody proud of them. Was told by an older friend a long time ago the best thing you can spend on your kids is time. Just me and mum at home now and that's also pretty good....well most of the time:rolleyes:
Yep, worked out perfectly so far :clap::banana:

[unstuck]

I left home and school at 14 got a job, and there is no fucking way I am going back to my parents house to live. My kids are welcome back whenever they need, but so far they have proved to be very resourceful and independent, and we get on better than we ever have.:headbang::headbang:

[oldrider]

My Parents sold up and moved to the North Island leaving me homeless at the tender age of 21.

My parents moved to the South Island leaving me in the house for my brother to move in and take care of me when he moved in. (I was 19)

What seemed like a hundred years later he forced his way through the old baked bean tins and empty bottles to rescue me from alcoholic oblivion!

He cooked me the best feed I have ever had in my life (tripe and onions he knew I hated it but!!!!!!) nom nom nom!

Life took a turn for the better from that day on ... I had to take responsibility for myself and be accountable for the actions I took and things I did.

Later I went down South to see where the folks had gone to and whallah I met the saviour herself (blind date Xmas eve 1959) now my wife of 50yrs!

So OK Woodman if you had a better life than me by moving North it must have been bloody good because mine has been almost perfect! :niceone:

[Oakie]

27 year old daughter hasn't lived with us for 7 years or so now. Lives in Queenstown and contracts to NZ Post. She does well enough to currently be holidaying in Asia for two months.

30 year old cut us adrift when she went to live in Wanganui with her partner 19 months back. As a solo parent we did support her quite a bit while in Chch and while she had her own place for the last three years here, earthquakes saw her returning home for various lengths of time. She's now studying journalism, writing for a couple of rugby websites (and even got published in 'Stuff' yesterday) and is now 'cost neutral' to us.

Proud of both of my girls.

[TheDemonLord]

I left home and school at 14 got a job, and there is no fucking way I am going back to my parents house to live. My kids are welcome back whenever they need, but so far they have proved to be very resourceful and independent, and we get on better than we ever have.:headbang::headbang:

Its funny how that works - I found that too, when I left home I got on much much better with my parents

(mainly cause when I get sick of them I can go back to my house!)

[F5 Dave]

Yeah we've yet to have 'that little talk' with our two. Eldest has just started primary school, but he's on marked time. Perhaps I should leave some rental adds about the place or say I'm going to fix up his room a bit on the weekend for the new tenant.

Only jokes, the wife would kill me.

My 3yr old daughter on the other hand, the wife has considered selling to the monkey house after many an early hours screamathon.

[Akzle]

My 3yr old daughter on the other hand, the wife has considered selling to the monkey house after many an early hours screamathon.

beat them. Twice daily, whether they need it or not.

[F5 Dave]

No I'm pretty sure my daughter could take me, even if she did fight fair.

[husaberg]

10 and six the youngest will be gone I say at 18 cause she is miss independence already.
the boy I say will never leave lol
I stayed at home barring some years away in the big smoke and working and saved up for my first house and left at 26.
Mum still loves me........I will I guess in time end up with the olds at my place when it comes to it. Circle of life etc.
I was kinda thinking of building a granny flat on the block now actually.....for later.....