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2kays
27th August 2014, 19:33
Hi all, am finally about to book in for my Basic handling test and get the ball moving:woohoo:
Any ideas on what bike?? Gear?? for a beginner. Would be much appreciated.

CHEERS :drinknsin

hayd3n
27th August 2014, 19:52
Hi all, am finally about to book in for my Basic handling test and get the ball moving:woohoo:
Any ideas on what bike?? Gear?? for a beginner. Would be much appreciated.

CHEERS :drinknsin

Hello and welcome
do you wish to just cruise around or be a hoon?
or do you like it a little dirty?

FJRider
27th August 2014, 19:56
Don't be shy ... NZ is a big place ..


OK ... it's not that big .. but we all are curious .. not to mention NOSEY .. :innocent:

2kays
27th August 2014, 20:08
Ha all of the above!! But i really want to commute from home (west auckland) to uni (northshore) and wherever else the roads may take me :cool:

oneblackflag
27th August 2014, 20:14
We'll probably need pic's to suggest the right bike for you :drool: :innocent:

FJRider
27th August 2014, 20:15
Whatever you can afford ... and live with. Learning to ride ... everything is new. You won't know what you want ... or need.

Sort out what YOUR budget is ... and let us know. Our collective (small) minds will dictate what YOU require, thank us later ....

Asher
27th August 2014, 20:16
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FJRider
27th August 2014, 20:17
We'll probably need pic's to suggest the right bike for you :drool: :innocent:

Clothes optional .... ;)

EJK
27th August 2014, 20:20
Ha all of the above!! But i really want to commute from home (west auckland) to UNI (northshore) and wherever else the roads may take me :cool:

<img width="600" src="http://www.sticktwiddlers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/KSI-rape-face.jpg" />

mossy1200
27th August 2014, 20:20
I was wondering why we don't have many young lady riders on the forum.

Guess its due to the gang bang mauling welcome they receive normally suggesting nudity before the first page is finished.

2kays
27th August 2014, 20:26
Umm...$3000. Thanks for ya help :niceone:

hayd3n
27th August 2014, 20:27
Umm...$3000. Thanks for ya help :niceone:

another question are you tall? or short
cruisers are very well suited to short riders

2kays
27th August 2014, 20:29
:laugh: :lol:

FJRider
27th August 2014, 20:29
Umm...$3000. Thanks for ya help :niceone:

Bike AND gear ... or just bike .. ??

2kays
27th August 2014, 20:31
5'3" ;) Im kinda short then

FJRider
27th August 2014, 20:33
another question are you tall? or short
cruisers are very well suited to short riders

Sports bike riders are usually good looking .. :innocent:

2kays
27th August 2014, 20:33
Im thinking bike and gear since Im so NEW!
Might be able to get my hand on SOME gears..but definetly not keen to pay more than 3g for bike.

Geeen
27th August 2014, 20:35
I woulds highly recommend you do this http://www.prorider.co.nz/motorcycle-training-courses.php?course=7 Fully intending to put the Wife through this course. And the ProRider guys are great

2kays
27th August 2014, 20:37
Im 5'3" shorty

hayd3n
27th August 2014, 20:38
5'3" ;) Im kinda short then
definitely get some good gear, skin grafts arnt sexy

2kays
27th August 2014, 20:41
Thanks:D I shall do that.

husaberg
27th August 2014, 20:42
Welcome to KB
Remember most of the blokes are dirty old men and so forth but on the whole are mostly harmless.
But do watch out some are real perverts:whistle:

2kays
27th August 2014, 20:43
Any particular make/model for a beginner?

2kays
27th August 2014, 20:45
I woulds highly recommend you do this http://www.prorider.co.nz/motorcycle-training-courses.php?course=7 Fully intending to put the Wife through this course. And the ProRider guys are great

Thanks im booking with riding nz, they do there tests nearby at unitech carrington.

FJRider
27th August 2014, 20:45
Im 5'3" shorty

Short AND cute ... (photo's optional) ...

FJRider
27th August 2014, 20:47
Any particular make/model for a beginner?

For a learner ... cheap works .

Asher
27th August 2014, 20:51
Really depends on what style of bike you prefer; sports, motard, adventure, naked sports (hehe)

Check out something like a Honda Hornet 250, Vtr250

Grashopper
27th August 2014, 20:52
Hey 2kays, welcome to kb :wavey:

Sorry about the first impression, the male population here doesn't get out much... ;)

A cheap bike, only for commuting, for someone with short legs - I would say a GN250 would do the trick. They are cheap to buy, don't use much fuel, have an upright riding position which is great for traffic, relatively low seat height (I'm 5.4 and I could flat foot it with both feet), as light as you'll get in cheapish road bikes, if you drop it you won't damage much, and, the most important thing, nimble and fun to throw around in traffic.

FJRider
27th August 2014, 20:55
Really depends on what style of bike you prefer; sports, motard, adventure, naked sports (hehe)

Check out something like a Honda Hornet 250, Vtr250

As a (pre) learner ... I doubt if she knows what she will know what she "Prefers" ..

2kays
27th August 2014, 20:56
Welcome to KB
Remember most of the blokes are dirty old men and so forth but on the whole are mostly harmless.
But do watch out some are real perverts:whistle:

Hi thanks for the heads up :2guns:

Asher
27th August 2014, 20:58
As a (pre) learner ... I doubt if she knows what she will know what she "Prefers" ..

Well I would say most people would have an idea on what sort of style of bike they would prefer whether they have ridden one or not.

2kays
27th August 2014, 20:59
Hey 2kays, welcome to kb :wavey:

Sorry about the first impression, the male population here doesn't get out much... ;)

A cheap bike, only for commuting, for someone with short legs - I would say a GN250 would do the trick. They are cheap to buy, don't use much fuel, have an upright riding position which is great for traffic, relatively low seat height (I'm 5.4 and I could flat foot it with both feet), as light as you'll get in cheapish road bikes, if you drop it you won't damage much, and, the most important thing, nimble and fun to throw around in traffic.

Awesome, cheers :) Ill start looking..have only rode scooters so far..IN RARO at that. I think ill be fine:eek:

FJRider
27th August 2014, 21:00
Hey 2kays, welcome to kb :wavey:

Sorry about the first impression, the male population here doesn't get out much... ;)


I resemble that .. :beer:


A cheap bike, only for commuting, for someone with short legs - I would say a GN250 would do the trick. They are cheap to buy, don't use much fuel, have an upright riding position which is great for traffic, relatively low seat height (I'm 5.4 and I could flat foot it with both feet), as light as you'll get in cheapish road bikes, if you drop it you won't damage much, and, the most important thing, nimble and fun to throw around in traffic.

What SHE said ... :yes:

2kays
27th August 2014, 21:02
As a (pre) learner ... I doubt if she knows what she will know what she "Prefers" ..

No..but im sure ill find out ..thanks to all yo'll:msn-wink:

husaberg
27th August 2014, 21:03
Hi thanks for the heads up :2guns:

It pays to read your post and try and think...... if it could be twisted around by someone to sound smutty.....
But don't worry 98% is good natured ribbing if you don't like it just stick to the biker Angels section.
The Mods will remove most of the worst stuff anyway.
But like I said most of it is intended to be funny.

Kickaha
27th August 2014, 21:03
have an upright riding position which is great for traffic
Shit riding position with stock bars, flatter bars make them a much better bike to ride

FJRider
27th August 2014, 21:04
Awesome, cheers :) Ill start looking..have only rode scooters so far..IN RARO at that. I think ill be fine:eek:

International riding experience ... AWESOME ... :cool:

FJRider
27th August 2014, 21:08
Shit riding position with stock bars, flatter bars make them a much better bike to ride

What HE said ...

2kays
27th August 2014, 21:10
International riding experience ... AWESOME ... :cool:

Oh n wait theres more.........THAILAND!! How could I forget...:clap:

husaberg
27th August 2014, 21:13
Oh n wait theres more.........THAILAND!! How could I forget...:clap:

Okay have you ever rode a bike though? or just Scooters?
If you haven't, I would suggest getting some paddock time on a AG100 or similar, best to do the crashing first on a bike that won't get hurt from the odd spill, on a surface that also won't hurt you.
Do you have any friends from a farm.........

Urano
27th August 2014, 21:16
Im thinking bike and gear since Im so NEW!


gear:
take care that what you buy has CE marks on it.
helmet, gloves, backprotector and boots are a must, jacket, hipprotector and pants highly desirable anyway.

- helmet > HAS TO BE PLAIN WHITE! (or high viz yellow...) and has to be a 5 star all green sharp rated (http://sharp.direct.gov.uk). don't set for less. avoid modulars. don't buy used. try it for at least 15 minutes before buy.
- gloves > try to find CE marked if possible.
- backp > CE level 2. no less. if you have some money, invest on an airbag system. MECHANICAL activation.
(- jacket and else > remember that if they say "with CE protectors" it prolly means that ONLY the protectors are CE labeled, and the jacket itself shouldn't be called "protective". better to find a whole CE certified gear if you can.)

bike:
YOU have to choose it, considering your height and intended use, its weight and type.
don't buy something just because anyone else could think you'd look cool on it.
suggestion: used 125-300cc are good schools. if you manage to find an old 35hp 125cc from the 90s it would be a hard but valuable training.

on new I (I) really like duke 125/390, ninja 250/300, cbr 300(/500...maybe...), crf250L.


take care, be safe. :niceone:

FJRider
27th August 2014, 21:17
Oh n wait theres more.........THAILAND!! How could I forget...:clap:

Been there ... I did a road trip on a Suzuki GS1000 in 1980 to Bangkok (from Singapore) and return ...

Different speeds maybe .. but same.

Big Dog
27th August 2014, 21:21
Shit riding position with stock bars, flatter bars make them a much better bike to ride

I'll second that. With stock bars you kind of hope it will go where you want. With some flatter bars you tell it where to go with reasonable hope it will.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

FJRider
27th August 2014, 21:22
gear: ...


IGNORE him ..

Buy what you like and can afford.

Motorcycling IS dangerous ... responsibility for your OWN safety (and health) is YOURS.

Grashopper
27th August 2014, 21:23
Shit riding position with stock bars, flatter bars make them a much better bike to ride

Never had any problems with the handling (maybe never knew better?), unless you're talking about the head wind?

I got a screen because sitting against the wind at 110 km/h for longer time periods was hard work. Maybe flatter bars would help there. But until 80 km/h wind is not an issue on the GN.

matrox02
27th August 2014, 21:27
5'3" ;) Im kinda short then

Shorts ok, Iv seen shorter ride bigger bikes than i would be comfortable on, though its all preference and confidence

matrox02
27th August 2014, 21:38
Any particular make/model for a beginner?

Really it Depends on what you want, I personally believe in buying a bike with out fairings up right sitting position, that way if you drop it you wont cry with fairing repairs, and its much easier to pick up, Honda and Suzuki are almost always a good bet, Im trying to get my friend ( also a newbie ) on a Honda VTR250 or a Xlevis 250, Suzuki gsx250's and such are also good, but really nothing beats sitting on a bike and seeing how comfortable you feel with it, but if you are very very new, it is a bit of hit and mis you kind of just learn to like or dislike a bike, its sometimes just best to go to places like Redbaron and have a sit on a bike you like, then ask lots of questions on forums that are make specific.

Tazz
27th August 2014, 22:15
4 pages already :lol:

This sort of question has been asked a bit so if you do a search you'll probably find some old threads that are relevant.

You can get good second hand gear off tardme. Lots of people go out and spend a fortune then decide bikings not for them 3 rides and then sell it all so you can make your money go further on good quality stuff. As time goes on and you learn what you do and don't like/want/need better you can buy new if needed.

Can't really go wrong with a fully faired sports bike. Good wind protection, comfortable (for the lower CC range you're not stretched right across it like the bigger ones) and if you're lucky some have trunks you can fit a couple of pies or some waterproof overs in.

This dude will even deliver it to you:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-772027293.htm

ellipsis
27th August 2014, 23:58
Welcome to KB
Remember most of the blokes are dirty old men and so forth but on the whole are mostly harmless.
But do watch out some are real perverts:whistle:

...Welcome...the most important thing is being happy with the one you choose...it should be a Honda, but it doesn't have to be... a 250, but it doesn't have to be and the most important thing is that it's the correct colour...most important...I'm not a dirty old man, I don't have time to be...I would be if I could...at the moment I just follow husabergs trail of soft porn around the site...and I think Thighland was called Siam when I learned to ride a pushbike...

Urano
28th August 2014, 05:33
IGNORE him ..


Motorcycling IS dangerous ... responsibility for your OWN safety (and health) is YOURS.


ya.
exactly.

Akzle
28th August 2014, 07:26
Hi all, am finally about to book in for my Basic handling test and get the ball moving:woohoo:
Any ideas on what bike?? Gear?? for a beginner. Would be much appreciated.

CHEERS :drinknsin
searchy searchy love, this has been thrashed to death and there is no ONE answer.

We'll probably need pic's to suggest the right bike for you :drool: :innocent:
nudies. incase that wasn't obvious.

Any particular make/model for a beginner?
no

gear:
take care that what you buy has CE marks on it.
helmet, gloves, backprotector and boots are a must, jacket, hipprotector and pants highly desirable anyway.

no, helmets and gloves are a must. supporting boots are highly sensible, jacket and pants - kevlar or textile. backprotectors hipprotectors down the line.

...it should be a Honda,... a 250,
you can ignore this. there is no good reason to own a honda.

Maha
28th August 2014, 07:59
I was wondering why we don't have many young lady riders on the forum.

Guess its due to the gang bang mauling welcome they receive normally suggesting nudity before the first page is finished.

There are normally two-three obvious male posters that swarm to any new biker angel threads like a bum to a discarded smoke butt.




there is no good reason to own a honda.

Apart from the quality of build and reliability, they are shit bikes.

bogan
28th August 2014, 08:18
There are normally two-three obvious male posters that swam to any new biker angel threads like a bum to a discarded smoke butt.

I'm sure there is a song adaptation in there somewhere...

7 lecherous old guys
6 chivalrous white nights
5 retarded learner bike suggestions
4 stupid safety tips
3 repost police posting
2 helpful posters advising
and a hitcher in a partridge tree :shifty:

ducatilover
28th August 2014, 08:24
Go try on a shitload of bikes. You'll soon find what you like.
All small cruisers are easy to get on. Bikes like the Honda VTR250 are fairly low too.
You can cover yourself in decent gear for under a grand too.
Look at the hand me down thread on here, you can get plenty of nice stuff if you're lucky.

Oh, wheelies are grouse

Akzle
28th August 2014, 08:26
I'm sure there is a song adaptation in there somewhere...

7 lecherous old guys
6 chivalrous white nights
5 retarded learner bike suggestions
4 stupid safety tips
3 repost police posting
2 helpful posters advising
and a hitcher in a partridge tree :shifty:

there's no rhythm man!

haydes55
28th August 2014, 09:55
Welcome to the world of motorcycling.

Buy gear before you buy a bike.

Buy a helmet, budget around $300 for a cheap new one. Nice tight fit is important, it should squeeze your head. Buy it from a motorbike shop.

Buy a jacket and riding pants, if you ride year round I'd recommend textile. Don't buy too tight, so in winter you can wear a jumper/thermals/more layers underneath. But don't buy too loose that it would slide around in the event of a slide down the road. You can buy second hand here to save some money but make sure it has elbow, back, shoulder and knee padding as a minimum. CE labeled preferable and waterproof is a bonus. If you buy second hand make sure all zips work and no stitching is damaged.

Boots, buy from a shop or off trade me, but what ever you do, make sure you try them on first, a good tight fit (not constrictive though) especially around your ankle/calf will ensure your ankle is protected. Waterproof preferable. If you buy used, make sure there aren't any faults.

Gloves, go in to a shop. It's hard to find a good fit, so go to a shop and try on a bunch. There are winter and summer gloves, commuter gloves and sports gloves. Talk to a salesman at the shop about the best gloves for you, in your size.

That's the minimum I'd wear while riding, I'd recommend not wearing any less gear. If you're thrifty and shop around, you can get it all new for about $1000, if you buy boots and jacket/pants second hand, the price will drop a bit (more money for the bike). A back protector and knee pads could help in the event of a crash, but aren't as important so I would only recommend if you were a safety nazi or rich enough to go all out for safety. As a side note on that, safety gear is only good if you actually wear it. No point buying good boots then wearing sneakers, and buying a back protector for commuting would be annoying, you mightn't be bothered wearing it, making it a waste of money sitting in your wardrobe.

As for a bike, go into bike shops, sit on some bikes, find a few that feel comfortable and you can see yourself riding. Then note their make/model, look on trade me for a good deal. You're short so a suzuki GN125, GN250 or a Honda VTR250 are all good options. Many 125cc bikes might struggle to go 100km/h, but if that isn't a concern, they are cheaper to buy and use less petrol as well as being lighter.

I'd recommend buying a used Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki, or Yamaha.

george formby
28th August 2014, 10:11
Go try on a shitload of bikes. You'll soon find what you like.
All small cruisers are easy to get on. Bikes like the Honda VTR250 are fairly low too.
You can cover yourself in decent gear for under a grand too.
Look at the hand me down thread on here, you can get plenty of nice stuff if you're lucky.

Oh, wheelies are grouse

Concur. After trying a shit load draw up a short list of the ones that will do what you need & tickle your fancy. Buy the one that has been best looked after. Get good advice on this. Reliability is very important, nothing worse than a bike which saps your hard won confidence.

Re gear. 2nd hand is fine but consider comfort & weather protection. Sitting in traffic cold & wet is not nice.

Get training, do lots of practice. Enjoy.

I can't wheelie for toffee.

buggerit
28th August 2014, 10:23
Hi all, am finally about to book in for my Basic handling test and get the ball moving:woohoo:
Any ideas on what bike?? Gear?? for a beginner. Would be much appreciated.

CHEERS :drinknsin

What riding experience have you done so far? bicycle? motorcycle?

2kays
28th August 2014, 10:35
What riding experience have you done so far? bicycle? motorcycle?

Bicycle..Scooter!

Big Dog
28th August 2014, 11:27
I'm sure there is a song adaptation in there somewhere...

7 lecherous old guys
6 chivalrous white nights
5 retarded learner bike suggestions
4 stupid safety tips
3 repost police posting
2 helpful posters advising
and a hitcher in a partridge tree :shifty:

Should that be "and a Hitcher correcting your apostrophe". Lol


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

Miss Sash
28th August 2014, 11:36
Hi! and welcome from another female rider,

The best advise I could possibly give you is don't go out and buy a brand spanking new bike right off the bat, get something that already has a few scratches so that when you drop it/come off/make mistakes and you will, its normal, it doesn't break you heart as much as it would on a brand new sparkling unscratched undented perfect bike.

Spend your money on good protective gear! It could potentially save your life, bikes are replaceable.. you are not. Invest in a good Helmet, Gloves, Jacket, Pants and Boots.

In regards to what type of bike you should get. Get something reasonably low powered, in the 250-300 range. IMO they're good to earn on because you have enough power to get going from a standstill without having to ring the tits off the throttle but not to overpowered that its intimidating to be on. Whether it be a Cruiser, sportbike, crossover the only deciding factors between what kind of bike you get should be A) what style of bike you feel comfortable. B) whether you can touch the ground, tippy toes or flat foot, whatever your more comfortable with. Don't forget you can always get it lowered if you need to while you're learning. and C) get one you like! I think if you love the bike you own, you're gonna want to get out more, and more seat time equals more confidence/learning and less chance of you giving it up.

Good luck!!

Big Dog
28th August 2014, 11:38
If you have a short list of gear, a lock, chain lube, boots, pants, jacket, gloves and helmet that does two things.
1 You are covered to start and can add gear as you think of other stuff you would like. This can add up a lot over the years but should not be too bad for the basic kit.
2 go to several shops and tell then you are not interested in individual prices you want a quote for the lot. Most shops will give a good discount on anything not already discounted if you buy the whole set in one place.

Some shops offer huge discounts or even free gear packages to learner riders buying learner bikes. At this stage they want your future business when you are proper hooked far more than they want your 3k.

Avoid buying stuff you did not plan to straight out. I probably have a few grand of items I will use one day that have only been used a couple of times or that I gave away because I will never use again but that seemed like the best invention since the loincloth when I bought it.

I reckon every one in this thread can think of something they thought they had to have an then rarely if ever used.



Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

Ulsterkiwi
28th August 2014, 12:24
lots of good advice here already

here is my 2c

Dont skimp on your helmet. the SHARP site is good for ratings. Above all else it must fit properly. DO NOT BUY ONLINE. Try it on

Get good protective gear and dont be scared to use more of your budget on it than you thought. Your first bike will be just that, your first, by definitition it wont be your last. The gear will stay with you no matter what bike you have.

Nothing exotic with your first bike(s). Until you have some experience, stick with the common brands and models, the specifics have already been mentioned in previous posts.

Get some training. Proper training, from an actual instructor.

Find a mentor

HAVE FUN! :woohoo:

f2dz
28th August 2014, 12:42
Kawasaki EX250 Ninja or Honda VTR250 are my picks.

As for gear, just go to a motorcycle shop and ask them there. You won't know what you like/dislike when it comes to gear until you actually buy and use some for a period of time.

2kays
29th August 2014, 09:13
Welcome to the world of motorcycling.

Buy gear before you buy a bike.

Buy a helmet, budget around $300 for a cheap new one. Nice tight fit is important, it should squeeze your head. Buy it from a motorbike shop.

Buy a jacket and riding pants, if you ride year round I'd recommend textile. Don't buy too tight, so in winter you can wear a jumper/thermals/more layers underneath. But don't buy too loose that it would slide around in the event of a slide down the road. You can buy second hand here to save some money but make sure it has elbow, back, shoulder and knee padding as a minimum. CE labeled preferable and waterproof is a bonus. If you buy second hand make sure all zips work and no stitching is damaged.

Boots, buy from a shop or off trade me, but what ever you do, make sure you try them on first, a good tight fit (not constrictive though) especially around your ankle/calf will ensure your ankle is protected. Waterproof preferable. If you buy used, make sure there aren't any faults.

Gloves, go in to a shop. It's hard to find a good fit, so go to a shop and try on a bunch. There are winter and summer gloves, commuter gloves and sports gloves. Talk to a salesman at the shop about the best gloves for you, in your size.

That's the minimum I'd wear while riding, I'd recommend not wearing any less gear. If you're thrifty and shop around, you can get it all new for about $1000, if you buy boots and jacket/pants second hand, the price will drop a bit (more money for the bike). A back protector and knee pads could help in the event of a crash, but aren't as important so I would only recommend if you were a safety nazi or rich enough to go all out for safety. As a side note on that, safety gear is only good if you actually wear it. No point buying good boots then wearing sneakers, and buying a back protector for commuting would be annoying, you mightn't be bothered wearing it, making it a waste of money sitting in your wardrobe.

As for a bike, go into bike shops, sit on some bikes, find a few that feel comfortable and you can see yourself riding. Then note their make/model, look on trade me for a good deal. You're short so a suzuki GN125, GN250 or a Honda VTR250 are all good options. Many 125cc bikes might struggle to go 100km/h, but if that isn't a concern, they are cheaper to buy and use less petrol as well as being lighter.

I'd recommend buying a used Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki, or Yamaha.

Thanks for all the info...passed my test yesterday. Intend to buy my gear 1st:niceone:

2kays
29th August 2014, 10:11
Hi! and welcome from another female rider,

The best advise I could possibly give you is don't go out and buy a brand spanking new bike right off the bat, get something that already has a few scratches so that when you drop it/come off/make mistakes and you will, its normal, it doesn't break you heart as much as it would on a brand new sparkling unscratched undented perfect bike.

Spend your money on good protective gear! It could potentially save your life, bikes are replaceable.. you are not. Invest in a good Helmet, Gloves, Jacket, Pants and Boots.

In regards to what type of bike you should get. Get something reasonably low powered, in the 250-300 range. IMO they're good to earn on because you have enough power to get going from a standstill without having to ring the tits off the throttle but not to overpowered that its intimidating to be on. Whether it be a Cruiser, sportbike, crossover the only deciding factors between what kind of bike you get should be A) what style of bike you feel comfortable. B) whether you can touch the ground, tippy toes or flat foot, whatever your more comfortable with. Don't forget you can always get it lowered if you need to while you're learning. and C) get one you like! I think if you love the bike you own, you're gonna want to get out more, and more seat time equals more confidence/learning and less chance of you giving it up.

Good luck!!

Hi and thanks for some great advice:) passed my basic handling last night..half way to my learners. EXCITE!! Need lots of practise so definetly not after the brand spankn new bike:ride:

Tazz
29th August 2014, 12:44
Hi and thanks for some great advice:) passed my basic handling last night..half way to my learners. EXCITE!! Need lots of practise so definetly not after the brand spankn new bike:ride:

Did you find it difficult at all?

G4L4XY
29th August 2014, 12:48
I learned to ride allbeit a bit naughtily on a no exit street in the quiet town of whangamata. Just riding up and down the street, learning the gears etc. I had absolutely no riding experience whatsoever, gradually as I felt more confident I would venture out further aand further. Whilst this might not be the best advice, perhaps finding a quiet parking lot or something similar to practise could be beneficial. Or like someone else said to find a paddock and rip up some grass :headbang:

As for bikes I start on a hyobag and everyone here will absolutely tell you not to get one so at least I've ruled out one for ya :)

2kays
29th August 2014, 13:52
Did you find it difficult at all?

A little at first controlling bike..kept putting my legs out at first as I kept looking at cones instead of ahead where I should have been going.
Didnt fall off which was a bonus. And I have never ridden a motorcycle before so I intend on getting lots of practice in:)

2kays
29th August 2014, 13:54
I learned to ride allbeit a bit naughtily on a no exit street in the quiet town of whangamata. Just riding up and down the street, learning the gears etc. I had absolutely no riding experience whatsoever, gradually as I felt more confident I would venture out further aand further. Whilst this might not be the best advice, perhaps finding a quiet parking lot or something similar to practise could be beneficial. Or like someone else said to find a paddock and rip up some grass :headbang:

As for bikes I start on a hyobag and everyone here will absolutely tell you not to get one so at least I've ruled out one for ya :)

Yea some practice would have been good, but I can do that once I actually get a bike. Will keep looking around for now and get some gear together.
Cant wait though..pretty excite! :2thumbsup

Kendoll
29th August 2014, 14:53
I was wondering why we don't have many young lady riders on the forum.

Guess its due to the gang bang mauling welcome they receive normally suggesting nudity before the first page is finished.

Haha there are plenty of young(isn) female riders on this site... we're just smart enough to know that some battles aren't worth fighting :P

ellipsis
29th August 2014, 15:17
...there are two spots painted in the middle of our quiet road, 6 meters apart...my wife did figures of eight round them whenever she had the time...she learned good skills doing that for a while...

Scouse
29th August 2014, 15:23
Thanks im booking with riding nz, they do there tests nearby at unitech carrington.Ah that would be the Downs mong twins good luck with that then.

2kays
29th August 2014, 18:01
Ah that would be the Downs mong twins good luck with that then.

Ended up doing it with rider training in Henderson last night. Passed!

2kays
29th August 2014, 18:03
Went to red baron yesterday to have a nosey and sat on a Suzuki TU250/tracker. Yet to have a ride though.
Any thoughts on this bike pls???

Scouse
29th August 2014, 18:20
Ended up doing it with rider training in Henderson last night. Passed!That's them

ellipsis
29th August 2014, 18:26
Went to red baron yesterday to have a nosey and sat on a Suzuki TU250/tracker. Yet to have a ride though.
Any thoughts on this bike pls???

...you couldn't go wrong...I want one now that I have seen one...

2kays
29th August 2014, 18:39
...you couldn't go wrong...I want one now that I have seen one...

:yes: I'll have to go back have a ride on it!

Akzle
29th August 2014, 19:33
Haha there are plenty of young(isn) female riders on this site... we're just smart enough to know that some battles aren't worth fighting :P
nudey pics still highly appropriate.:blip:

Went to red baron yesterday to have a nosey and sat on a Suzuki TU250/tracker. Yet to have a ride though.
Any thoughts on this bike pls???
would that be the pointy semi-'ffroad one? or the not-quite-gn?

either way, basic, no frills, cheap to feed, cheap on tyres, very good for you to learn your shit on (mechanical and ridacal), if you feel comfortable with it. i DO NOT like the weight-on-ass cruiser possy, unless it's a farm bike. but, as said, if YOU feel comfortable with....
it IS a good position in terms of visibility. and.... well, yeah. that.

no screen though. makes highways, byways and flyways a bitch. (come my ways... pun intended.)
please try not to die, little motorcycling girl.

FJRider
29th August 2014, 20:23
No screen though. makes highways, byways and flyways a bitch. (come my ways... pun intended.)
please try not to die, little motorcycling girl.

Small aftermarket screens can be fitted. If regular Highway/motorway use is expected ... it's worth the $$$ spent ..

DanielM8
30th August 2014, 10:42
Went to red baron yesterday to have a nosey and sat on a Suzuki TU250/tracker. Yet to have a ride though.
Any thoughts on this bike pls???

It's definitely nice and should be reliable.

It's essentially a GN250 engine though, if you've seen the shit they get for being weak little things... Regardless, they're a comfortable and easy learner bike.. In the end, it's down to what looks and feels good to you.


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ellipsis
30th August 2014, 10:55
It's essentially a GN250 engine though, if you've seen the shit they get for being weak little things...


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...a perfect, docile, reliable, cool looking little machine for a new young rider to get a feel for something that will transform her life...there is unlimited options after that...( a sticky but relevant question though to the op, what will the power to weight ratio be)

GrayWolf
30th August 2014, 11:18
IGNORE him ..

Buy what you like and can afford.

Motorcycling IS dangerous ... responsibility for your OWN safety (and health) is YOURS.

The only bit that I would agree with in the mentioned post, is to get the BEST you can afford, cheap gear is just that..... trademe is your friend, there is so much 'girl gear' sold S/hand and frequently hardly used.....
There are always those who will argue about paying for the name and it's no better...... Sometimes this is true.
If you go to a local shop, look at the cheap jackets ($200 and below) then look at the $5-600+ the difference is obvious.
You will often find said $500+ jackets hardly used, on tardme for a fraction of the new price.

Do NOT buy a s/hand lid..........:crazy:

Tazz
30th August 2014, 12:01
A little at first controlling bike..kept putting my legs out at first as I kept looking at cones instead of ahead where I should have been going.
Didnt fall off which was a bonus. And I have never ridden a motorcycle before so I intend on getting lots of practice in:)

Nice one. Not as easy as the lap around 2 cones on a single speed step thru most of these guys did but I thought it was pretty straight forward once my anxiousness fucked off. Particularly liked that they make you pull off on full lock.


Do NOT buy a s/hand lid..........:crazy:

Eh. My favourite helmet was secondhand from someone who bought it online and it didn't quite fit them right. Fit me like a glove until it went for a trip down a rocky bank (without me).
The brand new in store helmet I bought on advice from the salesman without being allowed to take it for a test ride is the one I hate :lol:
Unless you're doing long days a well fitting but somewhat annoying helmet is bearable though.

FJRider
30th August 2014, 13:33
Eh. My favourite helmet was secondhand from someone who bought it online and it didn't quite fit them right. Fit me like a glove until it went for a trip down a rocky bank (without me).


The best helmet I ever bought was second hand (from a bike shop) ... a "Born again Biker" bought a new bike that was too powerful/heavy for his experience/ability ... and lasted 56 km's before he pranged. A low speed affair ... and the helmet never touched the ground. (worn ONCE)

mstriumph
30th August 2014, 14:41
The best helmet I ever bought was second hand (from a bike shop) ... a "Born again Biker" bought a new bike that was too powerful/heavy for his experience/ability ... and lasted 56 km's before he pranged. A low speed affair ... and the helmet never touched the ground. (worn ONCE)

:brick:
that was a 'once off', you're experienced and know what to look for/ask and you got lucky ... what SHE needs is general advice for someone who knows from nothing ... advice to that person should be DO NOT BUY A SECOND HAND HELMET ..

(c'mon, agree with me ... you KNOW i'm right :rolleyes:)

mstriumph
30th August 2014, 14:44
The only bit that I would agree with in the mentioned post, is to get the BEST you can afford, cheap gear is just that..... trademe is your friend, there is so much 'girl gear' sold S/hand and frequently hardly used.....
There are always those who will argue about paying for the name and it's no better...... Sometimes this is true.
If you go to a local shop, look at the cheap jackets ($200 and below) then look at the $5-600+ the difference is obvious.
You will often find said $500+ jackets hardly used, on tardme for a fraction of the new price.

Do NOT buy a s/hand lid..........:crazy:

wat he said

FJRider
30th August 2014, 14:45
:brick:
that was a 'once off', you're experienced and know what to look for/ask and you got lucky ... what SHE needs is general advice for someone who knows from nothing ... advice to that person should be DO NOT BUY A SECOND HAND HELMET ..

(c'mon, agree with me ... you KNOW i'm right :rolleyes:)

We have had "Verbal Altercations" in these Forums before ... I know better than to argue the point with YOU. (even ADMITTED it online in a Sig .. :innocent:)

FJRider
30th August 2014, 14:54
wat he said

You put $10 helmets on $10 heads ... the question to ask yourself is ... what value you put on your own head.

All riding gear should be confirmed as suitable by an experienced rider ... if knowledge in this respect is lacking. There is plenty of gear out there that is more for show than safety.

DJSin
30th August 2014, 15:32
Welcome to the wonderful world of riding and congrats on passing your basic handling skills

There's a world of amazing bikes beyond what you learn on, heed the advice of others go cheap and good fit - there's a chance the addiction will kick in hard and you'll be on to your next bike before you know it.

I'm a safety sam - so my advice is invest in the best gear you can afford.

Good luck with the forum, don't take anything personally and use a huge grain of salt.

Have fun and I can't wait to hear about your motorbike journey :)

Tazz
30th August 2014, 16:33
:brick:
that was a 'once off', you're experienced and know what to look for/ask and you got lucky ... what SHE needs is general advice for someone who knows from nothing ... advice to that person should be DO NOT BUY A SECOND HAND HELMET ..

(c'mon, agree with me ... you KNOW i'm right :rolleyes:)

Yes. Brand new is always best. Always. Don't worry that you can drop up to $300 bucks on a helmet (which seems to be the consensus should get you something OK) with only one 1-2 stars in the sharp rating...the salesperson opinion on how much they can get out of your wallet is much safer.

I guess the idea is to spend 10 mins reading up on reviews and specs of what fits you well before pulling the trigger if that is the way you want to go, not to just ASSUME because you've bought a lid in a shop you've got the best you can for your budget as you imply?

mstriumph
30th August 2014, 22:07
Yes. Brand new is always best. Always. Don't worry that you can drop up to $300 bucks on a helmet (which seems to be the consensus should get you something OK) .............................

:no: if that was sarcasm .... epic fail

i still contend that, if you come off on your head, you won't CARE how much the lid cost as long as it protects your head

I don't see anyone knowledgeable on here offering to go with the lass when she buys her helmet? there must be someone near where she is that could help?

husaberg
30th August 2014, 22:23
:no: if that was sarcasm .... epic fail

i still contend that, if you come off on your head, you won't CARE how much the lid cost as long as it protects your head

I don't see anyone knowledgeable on here offering to go with the lass when she buys her helmet? there must be someone near where she is that could help?

I think some earlier offered to help her shop for undergarments (Likely Crasher) could have been sarcasim or more likely profound voyeuristic optimism
but shouldn't she get the other gear first that way she isn't temped to ride without it......

Tazz
31st August 2014, 01:23
:no: if that was sarcasm .... epic fail

i still contend that, if you come off on your head, you won't CARE how much the lid cost as long as it protects your head

If that was retardation, epic win?

So it's OK to spend $300 on a shitty brand new lid because it apparently protects your noggin better than any secondhand/new secondhand one will without considering any other factors?

I was trying to point out that just because something is new from a store doesn't mean it is good, just like something top of the line but 5 years secondhand probably isn't a smart buy, but nevermind, you're on rails with your point of view....

Anyway, OP doesn't seem retarded (always a bonus) so I'm sure they'll be fine, other wise each to their own...but I would rather a good hardly/not used second hand helmet off trademe than some of the shit you can buy new for the same price.

mstriumph
31st August 2014, 03:15
If that was retardation, epic win?

So it's OK to spend $300 on a shitty brand new lid because it apparently protects your noggin better than any secondhand/new secondhand one will without considering any other factors?

I was trying to point out that just because something is new from a store doesn't mean it is good, just like something top of the line but 5 years secondhand probably isn't a smart buy, but nevermind, you're on rails with your point of view....

Anyway, OP doesn't seem retarded (always a bonus) so I'm sure they'll be fine, other wise each to their own...but I would rather a good hardly/not used second hand helmet off trademe than some of the shit you can buy new for the same price.

... you are free to put whatever value you like on your own head ... :yes: I've heard of people who don't even replace their helmets after dropping them or coming off on them ... heard of others who'll gladly buy something they don't know the history of, secondhand, just to save a few bucks.

as you say, to each their own
but man up, buddy, don't skulk behind your keyboard
call me a retard to my face - give me the opportunity of hurting you a little ;)

Drew
31st August 2014, 09:12
Helmets. The great debate. LS2 are a little noisy when touring, but are great value for money. <$200 and I've rolled a sidecar on myself twice wearing them with no issues.

More money, doesn't mean better gear. I don't give a shit who tells you Alpinestars are the best, most of those people are trying to justify spending $3000 on a one piece race suit, or $1200 on a pair of uncomfortable boots.

The thing about the cheaper gear, is that it will just about always protect you as well as anything else in an accident. It'll need repairing/replacing sooner though.

oneofsix
31st August 2014, 09:26
A little bit with Drew on this. IF you check out the likes of http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/ and their ratings you will discover that some cheaper helmets outrank dearer ones. Often the increase in price is for noise reduction, lightness and other "comfort factors" which aren't so important for a learner on a budget. L2's rate well.

I saw an argument above about buying secondhand helmets, as a basic rule don't. Check out youtube on helmets for how to fit and why not to trust a dropped helmet and with a secondhand one you can't be certain it has been well treated. Jay Leno has quite a good youtube on helmets.

Grashopper
31st August 2014, 09:27
Fact is, you need to get a helmet that fits. If that is a second hand one, I hope you can really really trust the source of it.
For me it is a peace of mind thing. You never know what has happened to a second hand helmet (no matter what they tell you).

It is also a peace of mind thing that I do go for helmets with a good reputation and good rating (and that fit!). Yes, they are more expensive, and yes, maybe that is just the marketing, but maybe it is not.

On a side note, I also don't feel comfortable selling a used lid, even though I know it hasn't been dropped (So what the hell do I do with it now?)

oneofsix
31st August 2014, 09:30
Fact is, you need to get a helmet that fits. If that is a second hand one, I hope you can really really trust the source of it.
For me it is a peace of mind thing. You never know what has happened to a second hand helmet (no matter what they tell you).

It is also a peace of mind thing that I do go for helmets with a good reputation and good rating (and that fit!). Yes, they are more expensive, and yes, maybe that is just the marketing, but maybe it is not.

On a side note, I also don't feel comfortable selling a used lid, even though I know it hasn't been dropped (So what the hell do I do with it now?)

you put up a shelf and honour your used lids lol, cut the straps off though or your fond memories will tempt to reuse one even though the liner and etc will have degraded. Mine are all in the ceiling for now.

Grashopper
31st August 2014, 09:41
you put up a shelf and honour your used lids lol, cut the straps off though or your fond memories will tempt to reuse one even though the liner and etc will have degraded. Mine are all in the ceiling for now.

Cutting off the straps is a good idea.
Hey, maybe I should try myself at helmet artwork. lol

oneofsix
31st August 2014, 09:47
Cutting off the straps is a good idea.
Hey, maybe I should try myself at helmet artwork. lol

Used helmets as an art resource, good idea.

FJRider
31st August 2014, 10:06
:no: if that was sarcasm .... epic fail

I think you're getting a bit paranoid in your young age ... and $300 for a NEW helmet is in the lower end of the price range. Many do have the idea in their head ... the more you pay ... the better protection. Little has been said on how the fit comfort affects the protection it should give.


i still contend that, if you come off on your head, you won't CARE how much the lid cost as long as it protects your head

A helmet wont always save your head. At best ... it can reduce the injuries to your head. In some cases .. the helmet doesn't even touch ground (or anything else). Too many believe ... when they strap on their lid (and jacket/pants) ... they become bullet proof.


I don't see anyone knowledgeable on here offering to go with the lass when she buys her helmet? there must be someone near where she is that could help?

The OP lists her location as New Zealand. I think you are closer ... :innocent:

FJRider
31st August 2014, 10:10
Used helmets as an art resource, good idea.

I've seen a few old ones used as pot plant holders .. some very ingenious methods used to display them too ...

Maha
31st August 2014, 10:37
Fact is, you need to get a helmet that fits. If that is a second hand one, I hope you can really really trust the source of it.
For me it is a peace of mind thing. You never know what has happened to a second hand helmet (no matter what they tell you).

It is also a peace of mind thing that I do go for helmets with a good reputation and good rating (and that fit!). Yes, they are more expensive, and yes, maybe that is just the marketing, but maybe it is not.

On a side note, I also don't feel comfortable selling a used lid, even though I know it hasn't been dropped (So what the hell do I do with it now?)

I have on sold several helmets and have no problem doing so. One helmet I owned had hit the ground (I wasn't wearing it at the time) so I gave to the local Fire Crew for training purposes. Think I have sold three helmets all in mint conditions, one was only worn once.

MarkH
31st August 2014, 11:26
Went to red baron yesterday to have a nosey and sat on a Suzuki TU250/tracker. Yet to have a ride though.
Any thoughts on this bike pls???

My suggestion (for what it is worth) is to have a ride on the TU250 but also look around, maybe take a ride on a VTR250 as well. Once you have tried 2 or 3 bikes then you will get some idea of what you like the feel of best. I'm sure you are keen to get something, but a little patience would pay dividends here in terms of getting the right bike to start with.

Of course your first bike doesn't have to be your last bike and you can move up to bigger & better things later on when you have more experience, but for now just find a decent learner bike that YOU like.

Big Dog
31st August 2014, 12:02
A little bit with Drew on this. IF you check out the likes of http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/ and their ratings you will discover that some cheaper helmets outrank dearer ones. Often the increase in price is for noise reduction, lightness and other "comfort factors" which aren't so important for a learner on a budget. L2's rate well.

I saw an argument above about buying secondhand helmets, as a basic rule don't. Check out youtube on helmets for how to fit and why not to trust a dropped helmet and with a secondhand one you can't be certain it has been well treated. Jay Leno has quite a good youtube on helmets.

Best reason I have ever had for never buying a second hand helmet... When I smacked a traffic island fairly hard with my HJC there as no external evidence I an impact. Not even noticeable scratches in the polycarbonate.

Given the ringing in the ears and the headache. I knew it copped a good thump.

I cut it open. Around where I estimated the hit was.
There was about a centimetre deep void in the polystyrene.
That quarter would never protect anything well again.
Polycarbonate is good in that it stays together through multiple events in the same accident. Bad in that it hides all sorts of ill history.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

Big Dog
31st August 2014, 12:03
Used helmets as an art resource, good idea.

Clean them well unless you want a mould farm though.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

*Boot's*
31st August 2014, 12:05
I just want to say that I brought my helmet second hand!!! :) yay!!!! and from a WRECKERS at that! nope, no blood inside the helmet, outsides a little scuffed and i ripped the polystyrene out so my headphones would fit in :) works perfectly! Lana Del Rey so loud I can't hear the exhaust or concentrate 100% :banana:

Tazz
31st August 2014, 13:08
as you say, to each their own
but man up, buddy, don't skulk behind your keyboard
call me a retard to my face - give me the opportunity of hurting you a little ;)

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yes. A fist fight because we disagree on helmets on a thread on Kiwibiker is the only way to settle this...I'll meet you at dawn outside Chipmunks Playland...


http://ih1.redbubble.net/image.7459348.3935/flat,550x550,075,f.jpg


A little bit with Drew on this. IF you check out the likes of http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/ and their ratings you will discover that some cheaper helmets outrank dearer ones. Often the increase in price is for noise reduction, lightness and other "comfort factors" which aren't so important for a learner on a budget. L2's rate well.

I saw an argument above about buying secondhand helmets, as a basic rule don't. Check out youtube on helmets for how to fit and why not to trust a dropped helmet and with a secondhand one you can't be certain it has been well treated. Jay Leno has quite a good youtube on helmets.

That's what I was getting at. It takes a bit more than just throwing money at a new helmet, or anything, to get a good one. You can still end up with a dud even with some of the spendy ones.

As for Jay Leno on helmets...you'd think he'd be able to get a helmet made to cover his chin :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=D5r6rhQiT-k#t=442s

buggerit
31st August 2014, 13:27
I just want to say that I brought my helmet second hand!!! :) yay!!!! and from a WRECKERS at that! nope, no blood inside the helmet, outsides a little scuffed and i ripped the polystyrene out so my headphones would fit in :) works perfectly! Lana Del Rey so loud I can't hear the exhaust or concentrate 100% :banana:

Esky is not a helmet brand, you have been ripped!:doh:

haydes55
31st August 2014, 13:39
I just want to say that I brought my helmet second hand!!! :) yay!!!! and from a WRECKERS at that! nope, no blood inside the helmet, outsides a little scuffed and i ripped the polystyrene out so my headphones would fit in :) works perfectly! Lana Del Rey so loud I can't hear the exhaust or concentrate 100% :banana:


"My first troll".... Make your trolls more subtle and you might get some bites.

mstriumph
31st August 2014, 14:11
..
1. and $300 for a NEW helmet is in the lower end of the price range. Many do have the idea in their head ... the more you pay ... the better protection. Little has been said on how the fit comfort affects the protection it should give.

2. A helmet wont always save your head. At best ... it can reduce the injuries to your head. In some cases .. the helmet doesn't even touch ground (or anything else). Too many believe ... when they strap on their lid (and jacket/pants) ... they become bullet proof.

3. The OP lists her location as New Zealand. I think you are closer ... :innocent:

1 and 2
you are right of course, and everything is taken in balance ... personally I can't wear certain makes of helmets, the shape is all wrong - I wouldn't have known that without trying them on (much less angst-ridden in a shop) ...

then, of course, there are certain colour combinations I won't wear, certain designs that I don't like ... (trivial? MOI??!)

3. Sure, my friend ... pay her return fare over here and I'll gladly take her shopping ... :laugh:

mstriumph
31st August 2014, 14:16
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Yes. A fist fight because we disagree on helmets on a thread on Kiwibiker is the only way to settle this...I'll meet you at dawn outside Chipmunks Playland...

............

heck, I didn't mention fists? Your sexual proclivities are entirely your own business :laugh:

Drew
31st August 2014, 14:23
Aaaaanyhoo, back on track now. The bike you choose in a perfect world, is what fits you best. What you're actually gonna get, is what you can muster up the self control to wait for that fits your budget. So don't agonise over it, you're gonna love whatever you get. Or hate it with a passion, in which case you'll know what to avoid next time.

So, here are the major 'don'ts' when it comes to bike selection.

Don't; look at a used Hyosung
look at an eighties 250cc sports bike
trust anyone selling something
buy something that needs work.
inspect a bike at night or when it's raining

Follow these simple rules and get a helmet, gloves, jacket, and lace up your Docs. It's time to do some sick fucken skids!

*Boot's*
31st August 2014, 15:03
Esky is not a helmet brand, you have been ripped!:doh:

Your right 100%. I'm only riding with a helmet to keep the feds happy. To be honest they probably cause more accidents than we like to think about.

GSeX
31st August 2014, 15:39
Coming from scooters, would also recommend a 250 to start on (125's occasionally don't like up-hills) and being a Suzuki fanboy, the TU250 looks cool :P

As for gear, you can get a good helmet for ~$160, know a few people - including myself - with the HJC CS-14 but RJays has some good ones at the same price range. 1Tonne has quality affordable textile jackets, RJays jackets are good as well (~$200).

FJRider
31st August 2014, 17:23
1 and 2
you are right of course, and everything is taken in balance ... personally I can't wear certain makes of helmets, the shape is all wrong - I wouldn't have known that without trying them on (much less angst-ridden in a shop) ...

What is "Taken in balance" ... ??? Is that ... looking at the "Big picture" ie: you buy safety equipment to save your ass (or other important bits) what the colour/design painted on it is secondary. My favorite colour is blue ... but I have yet to find high vis gear in blue. Does that mean I wont/shouldn't wear high vis gear .. ??


then, of course, there are certain colour combinations I won't wear, certain designs that I don't like ... (trivial? MOI??!)

I could never place judgement on your personal preferences ... (lest you comment on mine .. :devil2:)

If it fits correctly ... does the intended job it's supposed too ... I'll probably wear it (Pink is out though :blank:). I do know a few that custom paint helmets .. should the colour/design be NOT to my liking ..


3. Sure, my friend ... pay her return fare over here and I'll gladly take her shopping ... :laugh:

She lives in New Zealand ... how hard could it be to track her down. BUT ... Considering the evil reasons suggested/stated by some in THIS thread .. as to why male members reply to these Biker Angel threads ... any attempt by me to do such ... may be misinterpreted.

GrayWolf
31st August 2014, 21:32
If that was retardation, epic win?

So it's OK to spend $300 on a shitty brand new lid because it apparently protects your noggin better than any secondhand/new secondhand one will without considering any other factors?

I was trying to point out that just because something is new from a store doesn't mean it is good, just like something top of the line but 5 years secondhand probably isn't a smart buy, but nevermind, you're on rails with your point of view....

Anyway, OP doesn't seem retarded (always a bonus) so I'm sure they'll be fine, other wise each to their own...but I would rather a good hardly/not used second hand helmet off trademe than some of the shit you can buy new for the same price.

You know Tazz,
you seem hell bent on misquoting, twisting or simply transposing what is said to suit your own argument. No one has said that just paying $300 is an automatic good buy, and I believe the OP doesnt need this type of torpedoing of information.
The advice has been to get knowledgeable help, Drew has in one post given her more help than your 'missile firing' at Triumph girl.
She is NEW (OP), so S/hand lids is not really on her agenda unitill she has experience, surely? A good one like an LS2 is a reasonable start. Yes some cheap helmets DO rate better than expensive ones in the SHARP testing. But there is comfort, shell size, how the inner is constructed, long oval, round, more 'square' etc. No point buying ill fitting, noisy or one that may score well, but is cheap n cheerful in its fittings and fixtures?

mossy1200
31st August 2014, 22:03
Almost 3 pages since the op has posted. Whats everyone talking about?

GSeX
31st August 2014, 22:05
Almost 3 pages since the op has posted. Whats everyone talking about?

Affordable gear and a good learner bike...

EJK
31st August 2014, 22:48
Did anybody get lucky with her yet? 8 pages and still no fuck?

cc rider
1st September 2014, 00:10
We'll probably need pic's to suggest the right bike for you :drool: :innocent:


Whatever you can afford ... and live with. Learning to ride ... everything is new. You won't know what you want ... or need.

Sort out what YOUR budget is ... and let us know. Our collective (small) minds will dictate what YOU require, thank us later ....


Clothes optional .... ;)FJ.... I want my BLING back :spanking: :facepalm:

Tazz
1st September 2014, 00:15
You know Tazz,
you seem hell bent on misquoting, twisting or simply transposing what is said to suit your own argument. No one has said that just paying $300 is an automatic good buy, and I believe the OP doesnt need this type of torpedoing of information.
The advice has been to get knowledgeable help, Drew has in one post given her more help than your 'missile firing' at Triumph girl.
She is NEW (OP), so S/hand lids is not really on her agenda unitill she has experience, surely? A good one like an LS2 is a reasonable start. Yes some cheap helmets DO rate better than expensive ones in the SHARP testing. But there is comfort, shell size, how the inner is constructed, long oval, round, more 'square' etc. No point buying ill fitting, noisy or one that may score well, but is cheap n cheerful in its fittings and fixtures?

Harden up!

Not everyone new to the apparently complicated task of buying a helmet is an idiot, but if they want to buy a half stoved in helmet secondhand like you would have as a noob by what you're saying, good luck to them, otherwise there is nothing wrong with buying someones unwanted, new and not fitting helmet secondhand.
More and more are bought in from Revzilla and the like where you lose more sending it back than you do flicking it on for a loss locally.

Talk about cotton wool wrapping...and yet you all complain about it.

And yes, Drew summed up what I was trying to say a lot better than I did. I quoted something before with the sharp rating which alluded to that.

Bottom line - Just buying from a store doesn't get you something awesome. Spending a decent amount of money doesn't always get you something decent. Not all secondhand helmets are actually secondhand in the sense you think.


Did anybody get lucky with her yet? 8 pages and still no fuck?

I think I got an offer to go fisting, or for some fisting, or to fist myself. I only have small girlish hands, so either way it could be worse. Upside I might find some lost car keys or forgotten chicken wing. I'll let you know. Giggidy.

mstriumph
1st September 2014, 01:34
1. What is "Taken in balance" ... ??? Is that ... looking at the "Big picture".........................................

2. She lives in New Zealand ... how hard could it be to track her down. BUT ... Considering the evil reasons suggested/stated by some in THIS thread .. as to why male members reply to these Biker Angel threads ... any attempt by me to do such ... may be misinterpreted.

1- nah just 'on the one hand this, on the other hand that' sorta thingy

2 - to stop you digging yourself in deeper :killingme i'm letting you off on this one :msn-wink:

EJK
1st September 2014, 18:18
I think I got an offer to go fisting, or for some fisting, or to fist myself. I only have small girlish hands, so either way it could be worse. Upside I might find some lost car keys or forgotten chicken wing. I'll let you know. Giggidy.

Fist to the face you mean?

tjl888
1st September 2014, 19:44
Hey, welcome to the world of motorbikes!
I did my basic handling in Hamilton but I'm sure that there will be similar organisations in Auckland where you can do the test on THEIR bikes.
I only brought a helmet and wore generally sturdy clothes (jeans, sneakers, jacket and bicycle gloves) to the test.
Doing the test made me realize that the GN125/GN250 bikes that the riding school provided were waay to tame for what I wanted in a bike.
Once I had my learners license I took my time to test ride a range of bikes and pick up cheap bike gear along the way until I found what I wanted.

A helmet is obviously key so are gloves and a jacket, bike shops will often give you a deal on pants when you get jacket and gloves, if not jeans will do if you are sticking to 50k zones.
If you have sturdy leather boots they may be suitable, but proper boots generally provide more support against ankle injuries - also think about how fast you will be going here.
If you want to go for rides in the countryside I would get all the gear.

I bought a Suzuki GSX250 Invader which after three months is already starting to feel a bit tame (riding a MV Agusta F4 1000R kinda broke me) so definitely go for a bike that's a bit more powerful than you feel comfortable on when you are test riding.

Have fun out there!

ellipsis
1st September 2014, 21:37
definitely go for a bike that's a bit more powerful than you feel comfortable on when you are test riding.

Have fun out there!


...thats some sound advice...:facepalm::facepalm:

Drew
2nd September 2014, 07:24
...thats some sound advice...:facepalm::facepalm:

Makes some sense though. Most people think a GN is great for a month, then want some more power.

speeding_ant
2nd September 2014, 08:32
Makes some sense though. Most people think a GN is great for a month, then want some more power.

Depends if they survive that long on a more powerful bike. Advice only works for some people :laugh:

haydes55
2nd September 2014, 09:57
Makes some sense though. Most people think a GN is great for a month, then want some more power.


But from a scooter, a GN250 is plenty. I've known people to go right through til full license on a GN250.

Power means very little to a complete new comer. Making presumptions here, she won't be speeding, she will be a slow cautious rider afraid of crashing, she won't get a GN250 to full speed ever, she won't go full throttle for at least a month, if not longer, and even then, it will be a rush for her.

The important thing is to get out there on a bike, see if she enjoys it, and don't spend too much money unnecessarily.

ellipsis
2nd September 2014, 10:18
Makes some sense though. Most people think a GN is great for a month, then want some more power.


...I would prefer my daughter to have fun, learn and think about whats happening around them than embark on some quest for power or speed before they know how to just ride safely and have fun...

BigAl
2nd September 2014, 14:21
...I would prefer my daughter to have fun, learn and think about whats happening around them than embark on some quest for power or speed before they know how to just ride safely and have fun...

The OP is your daughter? :gob:

Better not nail her then EJK

dinosaur
2nd September 2014, 14:57
Hi all, am finally about to book in for my Basic handling test and get the ball moving:woohoo:
Any ideas on what bike?? Gear?? for a beginner. Would be much appreciated.

CHEERS :drinknsin

best advise I can give you - don't take advise off this site :killingme

There are so many on here who think they know everything, others have a go at knowing everything
I have seen the worst advise and best advise on here and unless you know the difference - I would dump the whole lot, join a local scene and get some advice from a bike shop or family - but not here :brick:

Banditbandit
2nd September 2014, 14:58
Ha all of the above!! But i really want to commute from home (west auckland) to uni (northshore) and wherever else the roads may take me :cool:

All the roads from Auckland lead to Invergiggle - if you so choose ...

ellipsis
2nd September 2014, 15:09
The OP is your daughter? :gob:

Better not nail her then EJK


...no, but she is somebodies daughter I would expect...:rolleyes:

Akzle
2nd September 2014, 15:47
...no, but she is somebodies daughter I would expect...:rolleyes:

bags not:devil2:

Drew
3rd September 2014, 14:35
...I would prefer my daughter to have fun, learn and think about whats happening around them than embark on some quest for power or speed before they know how to just ride safely and have fun...Perhaps I should have worded it better. I can understand the thinking, whether I agree with it or not.

2kays
3rd September 2014, 16:53
best advise I can give you - don't take advise off this site :killingme

There are so many on here who think they know everything, others have a go at knowing everything
I have seen the worst advise and best advise on here and unless you know the difference - I would dump the whole lot, join a local scene and get some advice from a bike shop or family - but not here :brick:

Thanks...Got my learners..gonna test some bikes out tomorrow and see what works. Definetly take my time when comes to choosing..Im a fuss pot:laugh:

*Boot's*
13th September 2014, 12:35
Ok… the bike for you? it's called an R1, anything relatively late model. ask them to put a performance chain on it maybe electric blue in color? also have them give it the "Turbo" upgrade. You will need to modify or have the rear arm modified to anything thats "show condition" and allows the biggest bike tyre possible (yes you will have to research this) get the fuel inlet modified and the motor ported and polished, get a turbo cam manufactured and installed, replace the valves and the pistons for high performance and have the bike painted matt black. Make sure all tires are Metzler and add after market exhaust. (each pipe has its own muffler so you should have the same amount of pipes out the back of the bike as you do leaving the ports of the engine.

Then get it Dyno tuned and swap it with my little 250 yamaha. My little 250 yamaha would suit you perfectly for learning on and I really need a bigger bike.

*Boot's*
13th September 2014, 12:38
Ok… the bike for you? it's called an R1, anything relatively late model. ask them to put a performance chain on it maybe electric blue in color? also have them give it the "Turbo" upgrade. You will need to modify or have the rear arm modified to anything thats "show condition" and allows the biggest bike tyre possible (yes you will have to research this) get the fuel inlet modified and the motor ported and polished, get a turbo cam manufactured and installed, replace the valves and the pistons for high performance and have the bike painted matt black. Make sure all tires are Metzler and add after market exhaust. (each pipe has its own muffler so you should have the same amount of pipes out the back of the bike as you do leaving the ports of the engine.

Then get it Dyno tuned and swap it with my little 250 yamaha. My little 250 yamaha would suit you perfectly for learning on and I really need a bigger bike.

WARNING!!! DO NOT RIDE THE R1!!!! Just simply catch up with me and we can do the swap easy as….

dinosaur
15th September 2014, 10:10
Get a Rocket III for a bike
forget about LAMS approved crap - they'll never catch you

Learn to do line locks first - always cool

then stoppies - yet to see a good one on a Rocket

As long as you wear a floro vest, only ride in good weather, never exceed 90 Klm/hr ...... like a lot of wankers who ride nowdays - and you'll be safe

*Boot's*
16th September 2014, 20:28
another question are you tall? or short
cruisers are very well suited to short riders

What kinda of plastic work? D size plastic supplements for women? what about men? I could do with some extensions on my forks haha

*Boot's*
16th September 2014, 20:30
Get a Rocket III for a bike
forget about LAMS approved crap - they'll never catch you

Learn to do line locks first - always cool

then stoppies - yet to see a good one on a Rocket

As long as you wear a floro vest, only ride in good weather, never exceed 90 Klm/hr ...... like a lot of wankers who ride nowdays - and you'll be safe

Don't tell lies…. those are the people who die most often! you need to exceed all the rules and be paralytic to stay alive… even better if you swallow the worm (helps move power poles out of the way)

frankthegeek
1st October 2014, 15:35
I have had both a gn250 (single) and vl250 (twin) in the past. the gn250 is a good round the city 90 and lower kind of bike but once it gets up over 90 everything is screaming and shaking. the vl250 as a twin has better power and can cruise along at 100 on the highway with no issue and power to pass. neither are going to let you hoon like mad. the vl sits lower with more of a cruiser style which may be nice for someone at your height.

boots, above the ankle most people prefer no laces etc. I wear a pair of steal toe Docs with Kevlar lined jeans round the city. the jeans have pads but are a wee bit less bulky. I have leathers as well as synthetic pants as well that I wear in foul weather but I rarely dont ride. I like the Shark helmet I have with an internal sun visor so I dont need to mess about with sunnies. a good padded jacket with a removable liner.

I paid $400 ish for a helmet and the same for a jacket. I was given my leathers from a retired rider. I went to a number of shops and checked out the clearance stuff to find padded pants for $150 or so. the Docs were about $150 as well. I ordered my kevlar jeans from the UK as they were cheap, but they are fugly and dont fit that nice. I am a no A$$ guy so they hang off more then my normal ones but I change out of them when i get where i am going if I am staying.

You can cheap out a bit if you want but I like my skin. I have had my crashes in the past both my fault and others. I have broken bones but i have always had good gear and helmets so no road rash. look at insurance with david go lightly as well as they cover your gear and your bike in case you have an issue. they are also cheap compared to many others with great coverage. they are riders insuring riders.

If you like sporty bikes the Honda repsol 250 is a light bike but packs heaps of power. I have a friend that bought one and enjoys it.

If you are thinking of upgrading from a learner to a newer bike down the road then look at the gn or vl as they both have good resale value. I traded mine in on my Iron getting almost what I paid for it back on the trade.