Hi tech speed camera in Wellington gorge earns $

[MD]

How can the Police spokesperson keep a straight face sprotting such rubbish and blatant lies.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/10431894/Hundreds-caught-by-new-speed-camera

So no ones been killed or hurt in Ngauranga Gorge for years but somehow it's still a danger spot. Of the 2 fatalities in the 1990s one I recall was a cyclist who lost his balance and fell under the wheels of a passing truck. Neither the truck or cyclist were speeding.

In the article he states, most caught were just over the limit! WTF, then clearly there is not an excess of vehicles doing the ton down the gorge threatening the lives of all and sundry living within 500m of ground zero (as they seem to think it is).

It's such a clever camera, they can apparently tell that drivers are inattentive and daydreaming! Bugger me. I didn't know a camera had been invented that can detect what a person is thinking. Or he just made that up like his other lies to justify issuing hundreds of tickets to people NOT endangering anything more than the paint on the bumper in front of them.

What absolute bollocks. This is entrapment at it's finest.

[Swoop]

So.
Get to work on it straight away!

An old tyre over the top, then set it on fire. Viola!

[mashman]

Gotz to getz dem revenuez somehow, z.

[Gremlin]

What absolute bollocks. This is entrapment at it's finest.
If anything, everyone braking for the camera (and then being comfortably under the speed limit) makes things more interesting especially on a steepish hill.

I remember my first trip down that way. I was lost, I came down the onramp just up from the camera (having just come up the gorge unintentionally), accelerated onto the motorway, then realised it was 80 not 100, plus the camera and had to slam the brakes on... sheesh.

[Grubber]

It says that the slightly over the speed limit fines would have saved lives if there was an accident.
So we should just drive at 5 kph then to save all of us.

I see $$$$$$$ in the bank here for sure.

[awa355]

25 crashes in 7 years, How many vehicles went over that stretch of road in that time?? And what relevence is a time frame that ended 17 years ago.

[FJRider]

It's in Wellington ... who cares ...

[Gremlin]

It's in Wellington ... who cares ...
It's between me and the South Island... ergo... I care :yes:

[scumdog]

It's in Wellington ... who cares ...

Yeah, look at the bright side - it's nowhere near me!:niceone::bleh:

[FJRider]

It's between me and the South Island... ergo... I care :yes:

The upgrade of that camera was done months ago .. well publicized then ... you can't claim you weren't aware it was there ..

[Gremlin]

The upgrade of that camera was done months ago .. well publicized then ... you can't claim you weren't aware it was there ..
I know the location now... Don't really care what's there. Sadly... I haven't been to Wellington (or more importantly, the South Island) since early last year :weep:

[MD]

The upgrade of that camera was done months ago .. well publicized then ... you can't claim you weren't aware it was there ..

For the record it's never caught me in 25+ years of weekly commuting up and down that gorge. What gets me is in all those thousands of trips I've made, I've only come across the odd minor fender bender, usually caused by lane changers interacting with others slamming on brakes to avoid a minor camera fine.

It's the principle of calling it a safety requirement that pisses me off. One of the busiest roads in and out of Wgtn and it has been safe for over 17 years straight, so please lets not lie and claim it's a dangerous spot. It was a 100kph zone for decades before that. The world did not end.

[merv]

Yes and the bastards lowered the speed limit when they rebuilt it at the top removing the intersection and they said when the work would be finished the speed limit would be restored - how long ago was that? It never happened.

[Erelyes]

Hissuing hundreds of tickets to people NOT endangering anything more than the paint on the bumper in front of them.

Now, I just went and double checked in the garage, and my bike doesn't have a bumper at either the front or the back.

What kind of bike do you have? :scratch:

[Berg]

Tax on stupidity! Everybody knows the fuckin thing's there yet they still speed past it and call it revenue collection:facepalm:
Oh, and I've attended about 5 or 6 crashes between the top and bottom of the gorge. All serious including one involving a fully loaded b-train

[R650R]

Soooo the cameras been there a long time and not enough serious crashes :scratch: maybe just maybe its stopping them from happening???
You wellywood locals are prob used to conditions and lane layout. I don't got here often but its one bit of road I pay attention and think it kinda could turn into a human size pinball machine easy...
And you've got all the tourists running late for the ferry wondering where the turnoff is, which lane etc...

Kinda found it odd they talk about using the camera to see wof stickers when the anpr should do that automatically...

http://www.itsinternational.com/categories/enforcement/products/gatso-sets-a-new-standard-in-traffic-enforcement/

[BuzzardNZ]

For the record it's never caught me in 25+ years of weekly commuting up and down that gorge. What gets me is in all those thousands of trips I've made, I've only come across the odd minor fender bender, usually caused by lane changers interacting with others slamming on brakes to avoid a minor camera fine.



And it will never get you going up the gorge unless you have a number plate on the front of your bike.

[Scuba_Steve]

Yes and the bastards lowered the speed limit when they rebuilt it at the top removing the intersection and they said when the work would be finished the speed limit would be restored - how long ago was that? It never happened.

Hey it's 100 at the top, and the bottom; in-fact it's only lowered to 80 past the camera... hmm, I wonder why that would be :shutup:

[Berg]

Hey it's 100 at the top, and the bottom; in-fact it's only lowered to 80 past the camera... hmm, I wonder why that would be :shutup:
Probably because that's the bit with the merge point for Newlands Jville traffic but let's not ruin a good anti police bitch session with fact or common sense.

[mossy1200]

I think.

100k is not a good idea.

Half the traffic struggle to maintain 80 going up and change lanes to dodge trucks already and im thinking there would be nose to tails going down as people try changing lanes to split off to Lower Hutt and the Ferry lane or if traffic has slowed to a crawl at the bottom.

I haven't had a ticket in the Gorge so the camera isn't taxing me.

[Scuba_Steve]

Probably because that's the bit with the merge point for Newlands Jville traffic but let's not ruin a good anti police bitch session with fact or common sense.

So having everyone hard on brakes, steering at speedo, pushing their way into other lanes so they don't have to merge (these people are the pinnacle of retard), and leaving no gaps for people to merge because of all of this is "common sense"...
Are you one of these retards that think merging is easier at slower speeds??? Fact: NO, gaps become non existent & merging becomes much harder at slower speeds especially when speeds are changed just before the merge. Really why merging should be part of the licence & any significant slow down should be a fail

But hey never let facts & logic get in the way of NZs biggest illegal scam

[Ocean1]

im thinking there would be nose to tails going down as people try changing lanes to split off to Lower Hutt and the Ferry lane

The speed limit's back up to 100k well before the lane turning off to LH.

Which sorta makes the theory that the 80k limit going up is required 'cause of the dedicated lane turning off to J'ville.

[MD]

Probably because that's the bit with the merge point for Newlands Jville traffic but let's not ruin a good anti police bitch session with fact or common sense.

Sorry if this has come across as a Police whinge. I respect 99% of what our Police do every day. But they lose me on the 'speed is the root of all evil' excuse for punishing people going slightly over limit, and it's the slightly bit that annoys me with this particular camera.

If people crash when merging lanes then it's their general ability to drive and MERGE that is at fault and they should be punished for that. Please don't place the blame every time on the speed.
Hey look that stupid driver crashed when changing lanes at 91 kpm. Answer, lets make him reduce his speed so he can continue his bad driving and crash at 89 kpm in future. Problem solved and the Govt got $80 for our efforts.

Drivers should be capable of merging correctly at any speed, not just at that which is painted on a nearby sheet of tin on a wooden pole.

EDIT- Actually this is definitely not aimed at Police- the people, they show judgement and tolerance (sometimes). It's the impersonal speed camera division that is just a machine going click $$, click $$...

[merv]

The speed limits are set by electronic signs and the one when going down at the bottom can sometimes be set to 100 which is before the Lower Hutt slip lane but many times it will be on 80 so you are supposed to do that right around onto the Ngauranga fly over bridge. At busy times the signs all the way down can drop to 60 and I presume the smart camera knows that too.

[R650R]

Its quite interesting that this debate comes up when its election time. Police are instructed by the govt who make and amend the legislation on how they want things enforced.
I'm sure the police would happily throw away their ticket books and move to a system where they justs top and chat with motorists until the education is complete and the motorist comes to a moment of clarity and drives safer.
But we know the govt would never let them work like that.
So all of you who've been posting in the election thread about how great your chosen party is and how democracy actually matters, please vote for the party that will allow the police to enforce road safety in a way that works and benefits everyone.... So which party is that then...???

[mashman]

Its quite interesting that this debate comes up when its election time. Police are instructed by the govt who make and amend the legislation on how they want things enforced.
I'm sure the police would happily throw away their ticket books and move to a system where they justs top and chat with motorists until the education is complete and the motorist comes to a moment of clarity and drives safer.
But we know the govt would never let them work like that.
So all of you who've been posting in the election thread about how great your chosen party is and how democracy actually matters, please vote for the party that will allow the police to enforce road safety in a way that works and benefits everyone.... So which party is that then...???

My party :D

[Scuba_Steve]

My party :D

Where?, When?, there best be Vodka :drinkup:

[Tazz]

I'm sure the police would happily throw away their ticket books and move to a system where they justs top and chat with motorists until the education is complete and the motorist comes to a moment of clarity and drives safer.


HA! Not likely!

[Blackbird]

I'm sure the police would happily throw away their ticket books and move to a system where they justs top and chat with motorists until the education is complete and the motorist comes to a moment of clarity and drives safer.
But we know the govt would never let them work like that.
So all of you who've been posting in the election thread about how great your chosen party is and how democracy actually matters, please vote for the party that will allow the police yto enforce road safety in a way that works and benefits everyone.... So which party is that then...???

Almost certainly right on the money :yes: . Carey is a keen rider himself and a really nice guy. Enough said.

[mashman]

Where?, When?, there best be Vodka :drinkup:

There will also be lots of that, and lots of drugs and hopefully lots of loose women too.

[willytheekid]

http://bodyshapestyle.com/wp-content/plugins/single-brick.jpg

...problem solved! :laugh:


(Or just dont speed in the first place...my only option seeing as I throw like a girl nowdays lol)

[Berg]

So having everyone hard on brakes, steering at speedo, pushing their way into other lanes so they don't have to merge (these people are the pinnacle of retard), and leaving no gaps for people to merge because of all of this is "common sense"...
Are you one of these retards that think merging is easier at slower speeds??? Fact: NO, gaps become non existent & merging becomes much harder at slower speeds especially when speeds are changed just before the merge. Really why merging should be part of the licence & any significant slow down should be a fail

But hey never let facts & logic get in the way of NZs biggest illegal scam

Na, I'm the "retard" who has to clean up the mess when fuckwit drivers and riders (many of whom believe they are the best out there) make mistakes causing crashes (funnily enough often involving other "self impressed" drivers/riders) but that will never happen to us aye.
While I agree, lowering speed limits in places where dumb shits keep crashing, only serves to lower the ability of the common denominator drivers rather than leave the road the way it is and raise the level/standard of driving, we cannot choose which laws we want to break.
We do however have a way of reducing the laws ability to take our cash and its a simple one. Don't break the law even if you don't agree with it! Surely if tickets are just revenue collection the police will go broke and then we will be able to do as we wish. Lol, bet many here couldn't manage something that simple

[oneofsix]

Na, I'm the "retard" who has to clean up the mess when fuckwit drivers and riders (many of whom believe they are the best out there) make mistakes causing crashes (funnily enough often involving other "self impressed" drivers/riders) but that will never happen to us aye.
While I agree, lowering speed limits in places where dumb shits keep crashing, only serves to lower the ability of the common denominator drivers rather than leave the road the way it is and raise the level/standard of driving, we cannot choose which laws we want to break.
We do however have a way of reducing the laws ability to take our cash and its a simple one. Don't break the law even if you don't agree with it! Surely if tickets are just revenue collection the police will go broke and then we will be able to do as we wish. Lol, bet many here couldn't manage something that simple

Whilst I agree we have to reduce the crashes that particular camera is sited to cause them. Rolling over and playing along just lets the fuckwits drunk on their authority believe they are doing the right thing.
Seriously, what are the crash stats? not road toll as that just proves the car manufacturers are doing a good job. As long as the focus on the road toll and not the crash stats and keep doing retarded shit like that revenue gather camera in the gorge, sadly, you will still be picking up the pieces except instead of dead meat it will be a pain and suffering.

[mashman]

(Or just dont speed in the first place...my only option seeing as I throw like a girl nowdays lol)

Option B: use it like a hammer.

[Scuba_Steve]

Na, I'm the "retard" who has to clean up the mess when fuckwit drivers and riders (many of whom believe they are the best out there) make mistakes causing crashes (funnily enough often involving other "self impressed" drivers/riders) but that will never happen to us aye.
While I agree, lowering speed limits in places where dumb shits keep crashing, only serves to lower the ability of the common denominator drivers rather than leave the road the way it is and raise the level/standard of driving, we cannot choose which laws we want to break.
We do however have a way of reducing the laws ability to take our cash and its a simple one. Don't break the law even if you don't agree with it! Surely if tickets are just revenue collection the police will go broke and then we will be able to do as we wish. Lol, bet many here couldn't manage something that simple

Statistics say over 70% of those "messes you clean" happen below the speed limit. Anyways you mention "we cannot choose which laws we want to break" yet for some reason you [police] can, you [police] can also choose which to inforce & yet you [police] choose one that can be shown to have an adverse effect to safety & refuse to do anything about actual road safety like bad drivers
I understand this isn't your personal choice it's dictated to you by the criminal gang you work for but fact remains by running the speed scam you are achieving absolutely nothing for the improved safety on NZ roads, you're just bringing in the $$$ for the Govt & by extension the popo (which really makes the popo a profit making organisation doesn't it?)

[swbarnett]

we cannot choose which laws we want to break.
On the flip side, if we just bend over we will be faced with ever more draconian laws that are of benifit only to a few narrow-minded shit-heads.

[willytheekid]

Option B: use it like a hammer.

WAIT!!!:confused:...can you repeat that
http://www.animations.physics.unsw.edu.au/jw/graphics/Sue.jpg
...I seem to have missed a step:facepalm:

[rebel]

So.
Get to work on it straight away!

An old tyre over the top, then set it on fire. Viola!

Umm, pretty sure that commie coon Mandela has trademarked such a move.

If the Ngauranga gorge was in Oz, it would be a 60 kay limit with trucks limited to 40.
The fuckin revenue raisers occasionally speed gun north bound traffic. Would have to be some of the safest stretches of road in NZ per vehicle traveled/fatilities, along with Akld motorway Bombay-Puhoi, Waikato expressway yet these pricks are patrolling them nearly 24/7. Job satisfaction must be fuck all.

[motor_mayhem]

Statistics say over 70% of those "messes you clean" happen below the speed limit. Anyways you mention "we cannot choose which laws we want to break" yet for some reason you [police] can, you [police] can also choose which to inforce & yet you [police] choose one that can be shown to have an adverse effect to safety & refuse to do anything about actual road safety like bad drivers
I understand this isn't your personal choice it's dictated to you by the criminal gang you work for but fact remains by running the speed scam you are achieving absolutely nothing for the improved safety on NZ roads, you're just bringing in the $$$ for the Govt & by extension the popo (which really makes the popo a profit making organisation doesn't it?)

SS Are you seriously saying if someone killed or injured another person, burned vandalised or stole something or any other number of crimes, you would be against the police using whatever means necessary to apprehend them should they seek to dodge responsibility for their actions? Because I don't see a society where no one is held accountable for their actions going very far except perhaps in a "Lord of the Flies" type direction

[Scuba_Steve]

SS Are you seriously saying if someone killed or injured another person, burned vandalised or stole something or any other number of crimes, you would be against the police using whatever means necessary to apprehend them should they seek to dodge responsibility for their actions? Because I don't see a society where no one is held accountable for their actions going very far except perhaps in a "Lord of the Flies" type direction

I'm unsure how you read that from my post but ok? And yes I would be against the popo beating everyone in a council flatting block just because a thief may or may not live there, I'm against the popo imposing military oppression to find a vandal, I'm against the popo stealing/monitoring computers to incriminate someone in a bar fight... I'm against corruption & the oppression of rights. Plain & simple

[Swoop]

Umm, pretty sure that commie coon Mandela has trademarked such a move.

If the Ngauranga gorge was in Oz, it would be a 60 kay limit with trucks limited to 40.
The fuckin revenue raisers occasionally speed gun north bound traffic. Would have to be some of the safest stretches of road in NZ per vehicle traveled/fatilities, along with Akld motorway Bombay-Puhoi, Waikato expressway yet these pricks are patrolling them nearly 24/7. Job satisfaction must be fuck all.
Better work stories though!! <_<


The Brits do quite well with their burning of the gatso cameras... :blip:

[James Deuce]

SS Are you seriously saying if someone killed or injured another person, burned vandalised or stole something or any other number of crimes, you would be against the police using whatever means necessary to apprehend them should they seek to dodge responsibility for their actions? Because I don't see a society where no one is held accountable for their actions going very far except perhaps in a "Lord of the Flies" type direction

It's charming that there is still someone who thinks the Police give a fuck about non-violent personal crimes. They don't. Oh, and the only people being held accountable for their actions seem to be people at the stony bottom of the cliff who need help, not another couple of years in prison.

[R650R]

Classic evidence here that use of technology is NOT about solving crime in this ANPR car story http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/10452796/Camera-car-copping-crims-and-stolen-vehicles

"Police say the technology does not capture any details about drivers or passengers, and information recorded by the system is deleted after 48 hours. "

Now with data storage being so ridiculously cheap these days there is NO excuse for deleting data. I think this is being done so they don't SOLVE too much crime and have the jails over flowing.
If the data is being captured to start with I seen no distinction between storing it for 2 days or 2 decades. It is no different to a witness testifying that for whatever reason they remember seeing you at date and time x at location x.
The police could already use any bank receipts or phone records for the whole big brother thing so why delete the ANPR camera data after two days.

Well here's why, they catch Burglar Barry in the act and using a car full of stolen goods. Lucky for Barry he's had a rest and not done any other burgalies in last two days. But in the week prior he had done several and driven past the ANPR camera near the locations discreetly as his plate wasn't flagged yet. Now if the Data was still there it would be extra work for cops and maybe some closure for the victims. The extra burgs prob wouldn't ad to the wet bus ticket sentence anyway tho...

And what of the case where someones away for work or holiday so stolen vehicle not reported straight away or a serial killer on loose. Police are throwing away possible crucial evidence that could have captured offenders movements and patterns.

[Swoop]

Classic evidence here that use of technology is NOT about solving crime in this ANPR car story http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/10452796/Camera-car-copping-crims-and-stolen-vehicles

"Police say the technology does not capture any details about drivers or passengers, and information recorded by the system is deleted after 48 hours. "

Now with data storage being so ridiculously cheap these days there is NO excuse for deleting data. I think this is being done so they don't SOLVE too much crime and have the jails over flowing.
If the data is being captured to start with I seen no distinction between storing it for 2 days or 2 decades. It is no different to a witness testifying that for whatever reason they remember seeing you at date and time x at location x.
The police could already use any bank receipts or phone records for the whole big brother thing so why delete the ANPR camera data after two days.

Well here's why, they catch Burglar Barry in the act and using a car full of stolen goods. Lucky for Barry he's had a rest and not done any other burgalies in last two days. But in the week prior he had done several and driven past the ANPR camera near the locations discreetly as his plate wasn't flagged yet. Now if the Data was still there it would be extra work for cops and maybe some closure for the victims. The extra burgs prob wouldn't ad to the wet bus ticket sentence anyway tho...

And what of the case where someones away for work or holiday so stolen vehicle not reported straight away or a serial killer on loose. Police are throwing away possible crucial evidence that could have captured offenders movements and patterns.
So?
Get out there and start DELETING the tax cameras!

[R650R]

So?
Get out there and start DELETING the tax cameras!

I'm not bothered at all about speed cameras or police using technology.
My point is the govt is not using it to its potential to reduce crime.

[Tazz]

Classic evidence here that use of technology is NOT about solving crime in this ANPR car story http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/10452796/Camera-car-copping-crims-and-stolen-vehicles

"Police say the technology does not capture any details about drivers or passengers, and information recorded by the system is deleted after 48 hours.

Nah, it's so people don't feel like they're being tracked and monitored (which they are by the phone in their pocket anyway).

I bet you if they did keep the data there would be an uproar about it.

[awa355]

In a recent three-month operation in Counties-Manukau, police using the technology recovered 15 stolen vehicles, and took 180 disqualified, forbidden or suspended drivers off the road.

Police say the technology does not capture any details about drivers or passengers, and information recorded by the system is deleted after 48 hours.

So how did the police catch 180 drivers when they only picked up 15 stolen vehicles? After all, the technology does not capture any details about drivers or passengers, their words not mine.

[scumdog]

So how did the police catch 180 drivers when they only picked up 15 stolen vehicles? After all, the technology does not capture any details about drivers or passengers, their words not mine.


Maybe - just maybe, they stopped vehicles with expired rego or maybe expired WOF or maybe owned by a disqualified driver or.....;)

[Grubber]

So how did the police catch 180 drivers when they only picked up 15 stolen vehicles? After all, the technology does not capture any details about drivers or passengers, their words not mine.

I would read that as 15 stolen plus 180 drivers in other vehicles. Not all of them in the 15 vehicles I dont think. Makes sense to me.

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[R650R]

Maybe - just maybe, they stopped vehicles with expired rego or maybe expired WOF or maybe owned by a disqualified driver or.....;)

Or just maybe three of the stolen vehicles were 60 seater tour buses on a pub crawl for the local AA group... Its a worry that we expect people to read stops signs as part of the road code and yet sucha simple sentence can be read rongerley :facepalm: :)

[Swoop]

In Pack 'n Slave recently and this van was doing the rounds of the carpark.
ANPR cameras obviously needed a workout...
300942300943300944

[Moise]

What a joke. Cruising around supermarket car parks. What next - Maccas drive throughs?
The cops here are total amateurs compared to how they use this technology in the UK to catch criminals.

[R650R]

Cameras about to be even more hi tech...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10567293/Sophisticated-surveillance-coming-to-Auckland

[FJRider]

In Pack 'n Slave recently and this van was doing the rounds of the carpark.

ANPR cameras obviously needed a workout...

Did you not get the Memo .... ????????????? :innocent:


Anywhere ... anytime ... <_<

[swbarnett]

Cameras about to be even more hi tech...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/10567293/Sophisticated-surveillance-coming-to-Auckland

FUCK!

I always had misgivings about Auckland transport but this confirms it. They're a pack of unmitigated bastards.

These are prime examples of their outright lies (or at least wild delusions):

"The safety and well-being of our citizens is always our top priority and the Future Cities initiative is a big step in the right direction,"

"This comprehensive HP ... big data solution will enhance the life of their citizens and will become a model of transport systems for cities around the globe."

And they're seriously barking up the wrong tree if they think we trust this to last:

"The system "should not be used for surveillance or monitoring of specific individuals (whether or not identifiable by name, and whether not facilitated by supporting technology) except in respect of specific criminal acts or organised crime or other reasonably suspected criminal behaviour (including terrorism) on the basis of such evidence or reasonable suspicion of criminal offending," the principles state.


Definitely a BIG step along the way to "Samaritan".

[mashman]

Well if ya ride up the gorge between 14:45 - 15:15, on a daily basis, it's generally undergoing some form of maintenance. Cane away bitches.

[Scuba_Steve]

God approves the use of "deadly force" against these inhuman abominations & it's like kind :ar15:

[R650R]

FUCK!

I always had misgivings about Auckland transport but this confirms it. They're a pack of unmitigated bastards.

These are prime examples of their outright lies

Definitely a BIG step along the way to "Samaritan".

Theoretically organised vehicle theft and burglary rates should plummet with such a system but what's the bet it won't change. And there should be no more missing persons or unsolved random assaults.
Keys can still say kiwis are not being spied on as its a local body organisation and foreign corporate doing it, not the gscb or police etc...
It will be great if Aucks became a crime free utopia but my money's on red light, parking and rego fines revenue skyrocketing. Facial recognition also brings in option of fines for jay walking too...

[swbarnett]

It will be great if Aucks became a crime free utopia
Please NO!

If, in an ideal situation, this happened in isolation then yes. However, in reality the cost is far too high. Crime free is one thing but if we become slaves to surveillance in the process then I'd rather have the crime.

[Swoop]

Anywhere ... anytime ... <_<
Yup. Private property, public property...

Where next? Perhaps in the middle of the bush to catch dirt bikers?:devil2:

[willytheekid]

Ya wanna beat the ANPR cameras?

...infrared LED's my friends, start collecting old TV remotes etc, then make a nice "invisable light" number plate surround ;)

To test this, aim your TV remote at your phones camera...now push a button on the remote...tadah! - invisable light! (yes, even at night)...and sure as shit, it FUCKS ANPR camera's from reading your plates ;)

-the blue prints::D
http://dangerousprototypes.com/2011/06/06/ir-led-speed-camera-license-plate-blocker/

In action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QQN0tJj7Tk

...Govnt wanna use "tech" to gather more revenue instead of focusing on actual road safety measures...game on!


or!...you could just start a new hobbie "collecting" these things, or maybe start carring a brick around to help "adjust" there focal point lol

MORE COPS & FUNDING ARE REQUIRED!!...NOT CAMERA'S!!

[ruaphu]

Ya wanna beat the ANPR cameras?

...infrared LED's my friends, start collecting old TV remotes etc, then make a nice "invisable light" number plate surround ;)

To test this, aim your TV remote at your phones camera...now push a button on the remote...tadah! - invisable light! (yes, even at night)...and sure as shit, it FUCKS ANPR camera's from reading your plates ;)

-the blue prints::D
http://dangerousprototypes.com/2011/06/06/ir-led-speed-camera-license-plate-blocker/

In action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QQN0tJj7Tk

...Govnt wanna use "tech" to gather more revenue instead of focusing on actual road safety measures...game on!


or!...you could just start a new hobbie "collecting" these things, or maybe start carring a brick around to help "adjust" there focal point lol

MORE COPS & FUNDING ARE REQUIRED!!...NOT CAMERA'S!!

Awh crap WTK, keep tellin ya, don't share ALL of the the GCSB learnings we've stolen, there'll be nothin left for the poor ole political front bums to use to control the populace easily and cheaply, most of all the bikers, lol.

Nah fuck em! Let em hav it, on ya.




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[FJRider]

Yup. Private property, public property...

Anywhere ... Anytime ... in ANY Public Place ... :laugh:

(Regardless of ownership)


Where next? Perhaps in the middle of the bush to catch dirt bikers?:devil2:

I'm pretty sure the HAVE already in some areas ... Any place where the public has access you may expect them.

[Reckless]

"Just Spray and walk away" according to Utube??

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http://www.photoblocker.com/
Relies on the flash tho prob outdated by now the new cameras don't flash do they??

[R650R]

Please NO!

If, in an ideal situation, this happened in isolation then yes. However, in reality the cost is far too high. Crime free is one thing but if we become slaves to surveillance in the process then I'd rather have the crime.

I know its prob all rosey in Tuakau apart from the risk of a setup for a double murder rap if your names Arthur... But here in Feral Bay I'd rather not have the crime thanks. Big Brother is already here and along with congestion and the *555 stasi the funs already over. So we're not going to be able to speed or have fun on the roads anyway. So we may as well make sure the technology is used to curtail crime.

As for the guy talking about IR LEDs we already covered that in another thread. All you'll do is cause an alert on the system the same as if you had no plate. I'd be expecting to get pulled daily if that was installed and after about the 3rd or 4th time they'd prob figure someway of impounding your vehicle. Mind you the CVIU doesn't seem to care about brand new Post trucks with sandblasted number plates...

[swbarnett]

But here in Feral Bay I'd rather not have the crime thanks.
And so would I, don't get me wrong.


Big Brother is already here and along with congestion and the *555 stasi the funs already over.
While you're right that we are already some way down the track the "fun" is far from over. Living under constant surveillance is not what I call living. Even if I am always within the law.


So we're not going to be able to speed or have fun on the roads anyway.
*** ahem *** speak for yourself.


So we may as well make sure the technology is used to curtail crime.
This is where it all comes unstuck. Even if the current government plays nice, what guarentees do we have that subsequent ones will? The definition of crime is constantly changing. And, of late, getting ever broader.

[FJRider]

The definition of crime is constantly changing. And, of late, getting ever broader.

The duties of Police are .. the prevention of crime ... and maintenance of Public order. (The definition of both should be under scrutiny)

It's the changing of rules on how they can achieve that ... that will be of concern to all.

[Scuba_Steve]

The duties of Police are .. the prevention of crime ... and maintenance of Public order. (The definition of both should be under scrutiny)

It's the changing of rules on how they can achieve that ... that will be of concern to all.

You should go let them know then because currently they're running well out of scope

[mstriumph]

It says that the slightly over the speed limit fines would have saved lives if there was an accident.
So we should just drive at 5 kph then to save all of us.

........ they missed the bit about having to have a bloke (or blokette) walking in front of the vehicle with a red flag?:rolleyes:

[mstriumph]

............... the funs already over. So we're not going to be able to speed or have fun on the roads anyway. ................. and, of course, we all agree with that ... :wings:

[oldrider]

Laws are there (supposedly) to protect the lowest common denominator!

Unfortunately the LCD is "consequentially" most likely to ignore the law anyway!

Other than that the laws are really only there to protect the arse of our political leaders! :facepalm:

[R650R]

AA showing their warped cherry picking logic again http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/wellington/10578457/Ticket-blitz-over-the-top-says-A-A

Drivers will soon slow down once they've had a few tickets I'd say.
I can't believe the cops are even talking about not running the cameras 24/7, goes against the whole anytime anywhere philosophy.
So we have to ask is speed/traffic enforcement a genuine goal or just keeping up appearances???

[R650R]

I see police are saying they haven't enough officers to man intersections in Auckland this morning for the powercut dramas, fair enough.
But couldn't someone in authority deploy Downers or other private traffic control to do the job???
Good luck getting to work Aucklanders...

[Swoop]

Good luck getting to work Aucklanders...
I fucking laughed (hard) yesterday when all the ponsey bastards lost their power. Remuera, Mission Bay, etc, etc. No lattes' or fluffies for them, or hot showers.

So long as they don't come out West looking for power, we won't have to murder them...;)



Pigs are all going to be busy with this shit, so go hard elsewhere around Auckland! :woohoo:

[awa355]

One woman on the news grizzling about not being able to buy a coffee. Geez!! some people really know what is important in life. :crazy:

Wont be much fun commuting with traffic lights being out.

[swbarnett]

One woman on the news grizzling about not being able to buy a coffee. Geez!! some people really know what is important in life. :crazy:
First world problems. I think we can consider ourselves pretty lucky that this is all they have to worry about.