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nikdsouza
4th September 2014, 10:10
Hi folks,
Haven't been on Kiwibiker too long, but appreciate the help.
Im looking to buy a 2015 Kawasaki Ninja 300 (available late October 2014). Just checking, would this be considered a 2015 model or a 2014 model? I understand it will be first registered in 2014.
I'm asking because this will possibly affect its resale value in a few years. Alternatively, I can save a bit of cash and go for a 2014 model. Thoughts?
Cheers.
nodrog
4th September 2014, 10:14
You worry too much.
I think crashing it will affect its resale value more.
nikdsouza
4th September 2014, 10:18
You worry too much.
I think crashing it will affect its resale value more.
haha that too :)
scott411
4th September 2014, 10:22
The rego tag will say its a 2014 because ltsa puts the year first registered on it , but it will always be 2015 model, not sure if it will effect the price, condition and mileage will be more a factor than what month it was registered
Grashopper
4th September 2014, 10:52
You worry too much.
I think crashing it will affect its resale value more.
Lol, what he said.
Is there actually a difference between the 2014 model and the 2015 model? If not get the 2014 model with ABS.
James Deuce
4th September 2014, 11:05
OMG. Resale value. Lol. One suspects you are over extending yourself.
nikdsouza
4th September 2014, 11:05
Lol, what he said.
Is there actually a difference between the 2014 model and the 2015 model? If not get the 2014 model with ABS.
Nope, no difference in the build at all between the 2014 and 2015, except a new colour scheme for the Kawasaki 30 year anniversary edition (which i don't like anyway).
Good point with the rego, thanks.
Erelyes
4th September 2014, 15:30
I went at great lengths to avoid K7 SV's that were first regd in 06, when I was shopping for mine. <_<
Laava
4th September 2014, 15:39
I went at great lengths to avoid K7 SV's that were first regd in 06, when I was shopping for mine. <_<
Hahahaha!
Seriously tho, you should be all good if you keep the indicator fluid topped up.
Gremlin
4th September 2014, 15:48
Im looking to buy a 2015 Kawasaki Ninja 300 (available late October 2014). Just checking, would this be considered a 2015 model or a 2014 model? I understand it will be first registered in 2014.
I'm asking because this will possibly affect its resale value in a few years. Alternatively, I can save a bit of cash and go for a 2014 model. Thoughts?
I think you should totally get a 2014, but reg it in 2015. Total win.
Oh, protip, resale will always be less than what you paid, so if you're thinking about that, I suggest you put the money in a savings account for those years instead. :yes:
AllanB
4th September 2014, 15:59
I purchased my Hornet new in 2007 - but it's a very late 2005 build (build date is on the Honda frame plaque thingy). Nothing changed from 04-08 other than body, engine and various bits colours. The very last ones in NZ late 07 were a 08 model - again different colours.
It's a fair question though as some people think a bike is 'old' after X years - others don't give a shit and pay attention to overall condition and service records.
The main guarantee is you will lose money on it anyway so just enjoy.
breakaway
4th September 2014, 16:06
Date of manufacturer (i.e. model year) and date registered (i.e. the bit shown on the tag) are two different things. In theory, they should be registered the same year they were manufactured but at times stuff gets sold in december due to poor sales during the year, then gets registered in early january, and the guy that registers it puts in the current year in there versus the model year.
AllanB
4th September 2014, 16:09
There are shit loads of 'made in XX year' but registered 2 - 3 years later Suzukis in NZ - every Summerfest they hold with special prices are on previous year(s) models.
Not big thing. They are all great bikes.
Daffyd
4th September 2014, 16:26
Model year and year of sale bear little or no resemblance. 2016 model cars are being introduced now, including the Mazda MX5.
Conversely, my boss imported an unregistered 2008 FJ1200 from the States and sold it in 2012 as a new bike. It had 80 miles on the odo!
AllanB
4th September 2014, 16:33
Model year and year of sale bear little or no resemblance. 2016 model cars are being introduced now, including the Mazda MX5.
Conversely, my boss imported an unregistered 2008 FJ1200 from the States and sold it in 2012 as a new bike. It had 80 miles on the odo!
2016? typo? You cannot introduce a 2016 model in 2014. False advertising at the least!!!!!!!!
neels
4th September 2014, 17:29
If anyone is really that interested they'll look up the VIN to find out what model year it is. I've got a '97 Ducati that was first rego'd in 2000, which actually makes a difference to a few details, seller advertised it as such so all good.
Maha
4th September 2014, 17:45
To add fuel to the fire, it's resale value will be close to 60% of what you pay for it, inside 24 hours of the purchase.
Erelyes
4th September 2014, 17:59
To add fuel to the fire, it's resale value will be close to 60% of what you pay for it, inside 24 hours of the purchase.
Maybe a few percent more if you learn to use apostrophes (http://theoatmeal.com/comics/apostrophe).
merv
4th September 2014, 18:05
I love this bullshit, which I think started with the Yanks always saying something is next year's model when to me, if it is released this year, it is this year's model.
If the 2014 model is a whole bunch cheaper right now and there is no difference technically to the falsely named 2015 model then I'd say buy the cheaper one. In a year or two no one will care when you come to sell it whether it is a year different or not, it will be the kms travelled and the condition it is in that will dictate the resale, which we know by then will be a whole lot less than you paid no matter which one you buy.
A basic bike is not an investment and depreciation bites hard but that money pays for your fun and transport.
nikdsouza
4th September 2014, 22:19
I love this bullshit, which I think started with the Yanks always saying something is next year's model when to me, if it is released this year, it is this year's model.
If the 2014 model is a whole bunch cheaper right now and there is no difference technically to the falsely named 2015 model then I'd say buy the cheaper one. In a year or two no one will care when you come to sell it whether it is a year different or not, it will be the kms travelled and the condition it is in that will dictate the resale, which we know by then will be a whole lot less than you paid no matter which one you buy.
A basic bike is not an investment and depreciation bites hard but that money pays for your fun and transport.
cheers guys, thanks for the feedback.
Daffyd
4th September 2014, 22:26
2016? typo? You cannot introduce a 2016 model in 2014. False advertising at the least!!!!!!!!
No typo. It's all over Facebook, first pics out today expected to go on sale, I think, about the middle of next year.
neels
4th September 2014, 22:29
No typo. It's all over Facebook, first pics out today expected to go on sale, I think, about the middle of next year.
That's getting silly then. People must be getting as excited about next year's model as they do when a new iphone is about to be released. Consumerism at its best.
Gremlin
4th September 2014, 22:43
No typo. It's all over Facebook, first pics out today expected to go on sale, I think, about the middle of next year.
It's kinda like KTM as well, the 2015 models should be available shortly (if not already).
I'm waiting for a few more years. If they continue to keep bring out models earlier and earlier, you should be able to get the 2020 model in late 2017 :weird:
MrKiwi
4th September 2014, 23:49
there are 3 dates that apply
date of first registration anywhere in the world. This is the date that matters
date of manufacture - ie when he bike was built, and
model year
It is possible that all 3 could be different.
My bike is a 2006 model year, built in late 2005 but first registered in Oct 2007.
pritch
5th September 2014, 08:45
This all looks very complicated. I'da thunk the only date that really mattered was the one on the rego sticker - unless there was obviously something awry.
AllanB
5th September 2014, 11:10
Sorry, but no way you can justify a 2016 tag on a model released late 2014. It is wrong.
Maybe Harris could have used something like that in his defense - I gave her my phone number when she was 15 your honor and I asked her to contact me when she was of legal age .........
Daffyd
5th September 2014, 11:48
Sorry, but no way you can justify a 2016 tag on a model released late 2014. It is wrong.[/I]
I may have been a little hasty here. I went back and re-read the posts. At this stage they have only released teaser pics. Expected 'release' date is late 2015.
caspernz
6th September 2014, 21:01
Personally I'd be dubious about buying "next years" bike, regardless of make or model. Why would you want to own a 2015 when you can already crash it in 2014? :innocent::facepalm::blink:
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