Modular helmets - OK to leave on in service stations?

[BlackSheepLogic]

Both my current helmets are full faced, and although it's not a big deal to put them on or off, it's one more item to carry in which when making a fuel stop. So can a modular helmet with the chin bar flipped up be left on when for example going in to pay for gas?

[The End]

Both my current helmets are full faced, and although it's not a big deal to put them on or off, it's one more item to carry in which when making a fuel stop. So can a modular helmet with the chin bar flipped up be left on when for example going in to pay for gas?

I never take mine off to pay for fuel. But most of the time I will use the pinpad at the Z pumps.

[Grubber]

Both my current helmets are full faced, and although it's not a big deal to put them on or off, it's one more item to carry in which when making a fuel stop. So can a modular helmet with the chin bar flipped up be left on when for example going in to pay for gas?

Yea as long as they cant see the shotgun you should be good to go.

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[Ender EnZed]

I've never had a problem paying while wearing a full face. Worst case scenario is that you get asked to take it off.

[Mom]

I have never been refused service at a gas station for wearing a full face helmet. Being a chick :D I have to have my hair set just right inside my helmet, it takes ages to re-set myself if I have to take my helmet off :yes:

Probably also because I have my wallet in my hand and a smile on my dial as I approach the till.

Have been turned away when I have refused to pre-pay my gas though. Stupid person, it was at my local servo that I had used for better than 25 years at that time.

Wear your helmet, the worst thing will be having to take it off if asked.

I find it weird though that I have to take my sunnies off when I go to the bank...

[Gremlin]

Kinda up to the servo really. I'm seldom asked to remove a helmet (haven't in ages), and while I only use flip front helmets now, it was basically the same thing when I had full face. It does settle any request they might start having.

More handy I've found them useful for, is breath checks. Instead of pulling over the side, removing the gear etc, just lift the front. Gets the fresh recruits all puzzled and slightly flustered :D

[Swoop]

IF you are asked to remove your full-face helmet to complete the transaction, then that is their discretion.

...

IF they actually ask you to do so, then I personally find that removing gloves, helmet strap, completing transaction, replacing wallet into pocket, putting backpack back on, putting helmet back on, doing up chinstrap, putting gloves back on, and then departing said transaction, sometimes takes a fuck longer than what they initially intended to achieve*. And leaves them with a large queue of grumpy tin-top drivers to attend to!

*Dependant on the arsehole-ness factor of the attendant, it is surprising the amount of time it can take to put on gloves and then need to take them off again to get the chinstrap adjustment EXACTLY RIGHT, prior to putting the gloves back on again... :blip:

This is why they shouldn't complain about a flip-front helmet!

[caspernz]

Meh, the helmet is only part of the picture. Even when I was using a full face can't say I've ever been asked to take the lid off. With a flip face for the last few years, same deal, never an issue.

As an aside, when all you want is fuel you'll soon work out that the supermarket fuel stations work nicely :2thumbsup along with most Z servos now they have eftpos at the pumps.

[Woodman]

If a servo guy asks you to remove your fliptop helmet then he/she is as thick as pigshit. Its pretty obvious that you are not using the helmet to cover your identity because you have flipped it open.

As an aside, you don't need to undo the chinstrap on a fliptop, just loosen them. Haven't undone mine for yonks.

[BlackSheepLogic]

Thanks, I spent many years in Texas and assumed not removing a full face helmet would be a problem here as well. I like my full face helmets but would get a modular helmet to avoid helmet removal.

I will try keeping the hemet on tomorrow and see what happens.


IF you are asked to remove your full-face helmet to complete the transaction, then that is their discretion.

...

IF they actually ask you to do so, then I personally find that removing gloves, helmet strap, completing transaction, replacing wallet into pocket, putting backpack back on, putting helmet back on, doing up chinstrap, putting gloves back on, and then departing said transaction, sometimes takes a fuck longer than what they initially intended to achieve*. And leaves them with a large queue of grumpy tin-top drivers to attend to!

*Dependant on the arsehole-ness factor of the attendant, it is surprising the amount of time it can take to put on gloves and then need to take them off again to get the chinstrap adjustment EXACTLY RIGHT, prior to putting the gloves back on again... :blip:

This is why they shouldn't complain about a flip-front helmet!

[Berries]

Thanks, I spent many years in Texas and assumed not removing a full face helmet would be a problem here as well. I like my full face helmets but would get a modular helmet to avoid helmet removal.

I will try keeping the hemet on tomorrow and see what happens.
Z are wankers for it, or should I say Shell. Never been back there on the bike since they refused to sell me a sandwich because I had my helmet on, even when I had put cash down on the counter. They can get fucked.

[Swoop]

Thanks, I spent many years in Texas and assumed not removing a full face helmet would be a problem here as well. I like my full face helmets but would get a modular helmet to avoid helmet removal.

I will try keeping the hemet on tomorrow and see what happens.
I just open the visor (black tinted) and remove sunnies, and have my wallet out. If they don't like that...
Even my local bottle store is cool with that approach as well (haven't ever been asked to remove lid).

[TheDemonLord]

I take my helmet off as a matter of course

[Pound]

Z are wankers for it, or should I say Shell. Never been back there on the bike since they refused to sell me a sandwich because I had my helmet on, even when I had put cash down on the counter. They can get fucked.


Amen to that!

I'll tell you who else can get fucked, New World Te Rapa.
Fast ass security guard asked me to remove my "skid lid" because it might "Intimidate staff"
Never mind the head covering that one middle eastern checkout operator in there wears.....

[cynna]

i nevet take my helmet off. if they do ask me to i just never go back

how many robberies happen with someone holding cash or an eftpos card

[breakaway]

Helmet on, cock out, never had any troubles.

[5ive]

I have been wearing my full face helmet into service stations and supermarkets the whole time I've been riding on the road (not long). I'll just take off the sunglasses if I'm wearing them. I never knew it was a thing until now, and assumed only banks were precious about head coverings.

Only short stops though, just to pay for gas or pick up quick things like 1 loaf of bread and use the self service. I'll take the helmet off for longer shopping trips to the mall etc though, if I can carry everything and the helmet.

Head/face coverings are not restricted to motorcyclists though, so unless I'm talking to the police or border security, anyone else can just deal with it...

[rastuscat]

We don't take our work BMW helmets off when gassing up. We wear modular helmets, and leave the face up when paying.

I also leave my personal BMW helmet on when gassing up my personal bike and paying. It's modular too, and I leave the face up.

I've never been challenged either on the work bike or the personal one.

I guess if I get challenged I'll just mea culpa and play their game. It's their premises, and they get to set the rules.

It also helps to have a modular helmet when you come across a gas station who is discounting their donuts. Both during work and otherwise.

Funny, my appetite for donuts goes up when I'm working. Go figure.

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[Big Dog]

Kinda up to the servo really. I'm seldom asked to remove a helmet (haven't in ages), and while I only use flip front helmets now, it was basically the same thing when I had full face. It does settle any request they might start having.

More handy I've found them useful for, is breath checks. Instead of pulling over the side, removing the gear etc, just lift the front. Gets the fresh recruits all puzzled and slightly flustered :D

Just how wobbly are you that you get breathalysed that often?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Moi]

Both main helmets are modular and leave them when buying petrol at the local petrol station where I'm known... they even release the pump when it's on pre-pay. OK, do use the pump closest to the cashier's end of the shop area. Have not had any issues at other petrol stations when travelling round the country.


Just how wobbly are you that you get breathalysed that often?

The few times I've been stopped in the last few years have been on either a Thursday or Friday morning in December on the way to work just after 7am and at the bottom of the Newton Rd on-ramp west bound... the flip-up is mosy useful then.

[Gremlin]

Just how wobbly are you that you get breathalysed that often?
:lol: It's the checks they setup. Occasionally they let me slide on by, sometimes they want to check. I cover a few km, so come across a few checkpoints. Ok, riding through Otara frequently probably doesn't help (it's between office and motorway). Had two checkpoints around the corner from one another one time as well... Also been checked on SH1 in Tokoroa a couple of times at night...

Haven't had one recently tho... although I've now probably screwed that... :sweatdrop

[Big Dog]

:lol: It's the checks they setup. Occasionally they let me slide on by, sometimes they want to check. I cover a few km, so come across a few checkpoints. Ok, riding through Otara frequently probably doesn't help (it's between office and motorway). Had two checkpoints around the corner from one another one time as well... Also been checked on SH1 in Tokoroa a couple of times at night...

Haven't had one recently tho... although I've now probably screwed that... :sweatdrop

Tuakau gets regular visits from the constabulary... and there is not a whole lot of Tuakau so if they have one I pass through it. Outside of Tuakau it would usually be about 5 years between stops.
Mind you from what I hear in the last 5 years I have probably only covered what you do in a year.

[thepom]

Walked into the gas station with open face helmet on abd wallet in hand.....girl says she wont accept payment till I take helmet off....I duly take helmet off and turn and face camera waving my wallet...I put helmet back on abd step up to pay and she says wont accept payment till I take helmet off and keep it off !..i duly oblige..pay abd have never returned. .....Some woman are just so pre menstrual sometimes...

[R650R]

It seems to depend on which anti biker power trip attendant you strike but generally not a problem where I go. (pak n save pay at pump)
Stopped going to the Taradale rd mobil few years back after the helmet thing, funnily enough they are one of the ones that gets robbed the most although I've yet to see suspects wearing anything other than a hoodie on the police fb page.... But that's a company site, go to Youngs (non company site mobil) at Bayview and they are all good.

Only been asked to remove at checkpoints twice.

Had bank staff at Taradale go all stasi on me for wearing cycle helmet while trying to bank IRD refund cheque. Told them they had to be joking and why did they let me in through the controlled entry doors if it is a genuine security issue?
Fat cow threatened to call police, was tempted to call her bluff but the manageress arrived and was a lot more pretty and persuasive :)

The whole situation is a bit ridiculous really, just look at all the footage on cop shows. Most of these robbers storm in full noise and don't mess about, no ones got time to say anything to them.
Then there's the vulnerability aspect of wearing a full face helmet, quite easy for someone to use the helmet as leverage on you in a tussle, let alone the restricted breathing for energetic fighting or running etc.

[Big Dog]

Walked into a bar once as I was taking my helmet off.
Raining outside etc.
The girl behind the counter all but fainted in terror.
Guess who was wearing a balaclava?
I agree with making yourself approachable etc but keep in mind you don't know who is behind the counter or how recent their armed robbery course ( or their last armed robbery) was.
You are not responsible for their reaction but a little appreciation for how you come across goes a long way.


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[Pound]

Guess who was wearing a balaclava?


There was your problem right there.

Don't see many terrorists / armed swat members / SAS and or gang members wearing full face motorcycle helmets, but they do tend to sport the old balaclava quite often.........

[wickle]

work in a servo only problem ive had is voice can be muffled when behind a balcava or face mask then usually say pump !! $86-50 , rider soon gets hint!

[EJK]

IMO they ask you to take the helmet off if you look sketchy.

[Laava]

IMO they ask you to take the helmet off if you look sketchy.

So you have a flip front now?

[EJK]

So you have a flip front now?

Mind you, I used to work at BP. We had to watchout for guys who rode V Stroms, they were the real dangerous ones!

[Laava]

Mind you, I used to work at BP. We had to watchout for guys who rode V Stroms, they were the real dangerous ones!

Dropping their bikes and leaking oil everywhere? Fuckers!

[avgas]

I always take of my helmet to chat at the Servo's. That way I look less like a power ranger, and people won't think I am a dick.

I also zip up my fly before leaving the bathroom. So I don't look like a sex offender.

[Berries]

You have to unzip your fly to have a slash which, I would assume, most blokes do regardless of whether that is the particular company policy or not.

Never been asked not to do it by the gimp behind the counter.

[Big Dog]

You have to keep in mind: you know you're harmless, do they?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[yevjenko]

Never been asked to take off my full face helmet over here. Would never dream of leaving it on in the UK

[avgas]

You have to unzip your fly to have a slash which, I would assume, most blokes do regardless of whether that is the particular company policy or not.

Never been asked not to do it by the gimp behind the counter.
Generally if you need to be reminded to zip up the fly the shame.

Likewise hbavink ah confestaion chew ah mellmut sumtims ah muffins boar yoyce. So after a while of people looking at your like your an ass.....so its up to you if you wish to be asked to remove it.

A bit like walking around with your fly down really. Sure you can do it - but do you really need to look that cool all the time?

[unstuck]

I find the shotgun makes it hard to remove the helmet easily, so I leave it on. Plus I hate the way I look on tv, and those police 10/7 pricks are always so rude when talking about people.

[Berries]

Likewise hbavink ah confestaion chew ah mellmut sumtims ah muffins boar yoyce.
Yeah, but I don't want a conversation, or a coffee. I just want them to take the money that is in my hand for payment for the petrol that is already in my bike. Service from a service station if you will.

Doesn't happen to me now because I use the same Mobil station all the time where the dude does not get worked up if I keep my helmet on, or sit on the bike while filling it, and doesn't need telling that I am at pump five when he has a window and can work out that the helmet probably means that the bike is mine.

Back to the OP, who the fuck knows? Every petrol station will be different but an open modular helmet is no different to an open face helmet is it? I'd be choosing my helmet based on fit and feel, not whether it will comply with an unwritten rule that is being implemented by some random wanker who resents working at the petrol station anyway.



I find the shotgun makes it hard to remove the helmet easily, so I leave it on.
We've all seen your face, you can be exempt so you don't frighten the staff.

[unstuck]

Dont be so rude, fucker.:baby:

[avgas]

We've all seen your face, you can be exempt so you don't frighten the staff.
Wanna root princess?

[unstuck]

Wanna root princess?

Nah, husa is dreaming of that one, wouldnt want to spoil it for him.:msn-wink:

[Berries]

Dont be so rude, fucker.:baby:
Yeah sorry, didn't mean to be personal.









It was aimed at everyone in Gore.:drool:

[Swoop]

Yeah, but I don't want a conversation, or a coffee. I just want them to take the money that is in my hand for payment for the petrol that is already in my bike. Service from a service station if you will.
It was a most pleasant surprise to use a Z petrol station last week, possibly the first time in 3 years. They now have a magical "eftpos at pump" system (which is just like what I have been using for the past 5yrs at their competitor).
A lady even offered to complete my fuelling requirements for me. I almost fell off of my unicorn with surprise at both!

[Daffyd]

Over here, they do all the work and take your money at the pump. The attendant takes the money to the cashier and brings back any change... and a receipt if required. Always greet me with a smile, and make me feel as though they really appreciate my business, even if my usual purchase is
<₱200 (NZ$5.53). I am NEVER asked to remove my lids, either full or open face.

[breakaway]

It was a most pleasant surprise to use a Z petrol station last week, possibly the first time in 3 years. They now have a magical "eftpos at pump" system (which is just like what I have been using for the past 5yrs at their competitor).
A lady even offered to complete my fuelling requirements for me. I almost fell off of my unicorn with surprise at both!

The reason its taken so long to become mainstream is because they don't want people to pay at the pump. If you pay at the pump, you don't go into the store. If you don't go into the store, you won't get suckered into buying an overpriced energy drink / keychain / sunglasses / chocolate bar.

I remember a while ago Mobil had pay-at-pump. A few months later pay-at-pump was restricted to fuel cards only. Then they axed it altogheter.

[russd7]

happened to get me passport out and venture to the other side of the ditch (dont get me started on the ability to drive of north islanders :mad: a fucken side worse than the maggots we get down here), anyways, i was in a rented cage and needed to fuel up at welcome bay, what a fucken rigmarole, i wanted to use me fuel card so first i had to go in to the shop and show them my card then they released appropriate pump so i could fill car up then i had to go back in to swipe my card, apparently they got sick of people driving off without paying so now take peoples money before they can dispense fuel.

[Devil]

I always take my helmet off. I believe it's just rude not to. That's how I was brought up, that's how it stays.
Goes on the list with not wearing a hat indoors etc.

[yevjenko]

I always take my helmet off. I believe it's just rude not to. That's how I was brought up, that's how it stays.
Goes on the list with not wearing a hat indoors etc.
Is that the same as taking your hat off when ladies are present, tipping your hat at other gents, and giving those street urchins a good kicking too while you're at it?

[Devil]

Fucking street urchins.

[vifferman]

I can't remember when I last took my helmet off when fueling up the bike. I have enough things to juggle, so taking the helmet off is not an option unless asked to; I'm too likely to drop something (and that something's either going to be my helmet or wallet.
As for Z's pay at the pump, it's actually a lot slower than going a few hundred metres down the road to the BP and paying at the counter using "tap'n'go", but as the fuel's cheaper and some of Z's profits go to charity, I just put up with the pissing around reading instructions, pushing buttons and whatnot.