Beheading plot foiled in NSW?

[PrincessBandit]

It was only ever going to be a matter of time...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/61327386/beheading-plot-foiled-in-new-south-wales.html

Random acts of terrorism are supposed to be the stuff of tv and movie plots! With all the international publicity there has been around this lately I guess the seeds are already sown...

[mashman]

Them IS people must be pissed at something to take things that far. I never see their grievances reported though. I guess that's because they're mindless savages that are shooting people for the sheer hell of it.

[Katman]

Then again, it could just be a story concocted to try and gain public support for Tony Abbott's decision to send Australian troops into Iraq.

[R650R]

Then again, it could just be a story concocted to try and gain public support for Tony Abbott's plan to send Australian troops into Iraq.

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Yep after the fake ones in Woolwich London where they nearly got caught out they've had to resort to the FBI method of rounding up brain damaged patsies to keep the scare mongering going.
Really if we had real terrorists and sleeper cells this stuff would be all over the show but the trappings of western lifestyle are too distracting for even the most dedicated jiahdis.
Just image you arrive in a happening place like Melbourne and Sydney with $10,000 from uncle bin limpin, do you head straight to the local fertilizer store or do you stop and buy a few dozen cold Victoria Bitters.
Your feeling pretty mellow now so may as well head to the red light district like atta and the other 911 'pilots' did and check out that the 77 virgins aren't already booked to be dancing on your big day.
Six hours later you emerge penniless with a new found love for western lifestyle choices.

Isn't it a bit obvious how they keep catching these (foreign language speaking) patsies right before they are about to do something but they NEVER arrest (English speaking) crims/gangsters just before a bank robbery or other activities. Even drug raids seem to go wrong easy on those cop shows but they ALWAYS catch the terror patsies with no problems.

[HenryDorsetCase]

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Yep after the fake ones in Woolwich London where they nearly got caught out they've had to resort to the FBI method of rounding up brain damaged patsies to keep the scare mongering going.
Really if we had real terrorists and sleeper cells this stuff would be all over the show

That is extraordinarily disrespectful to the memory of Lee Rigby. You clearly have no idea what these fuckwits are up to. You do know that it has been documented that there have been fuckwits radicalised in Straya, NZ and Britain now fighting with IS?

Just.... don't say anything if you havent a clue. Please.

[R650R]

That is extraordinarily disrespectful to the memory of Lee Rigby. You clearly have no idea what these fuckwits are up to. You do know that it has been documented that there have been fuckwits radicalised in Straya, NZ and Britain now fighting with IS?

Just.... don't say anything if you havent a clue. Please.

Its tragic that he died but its not disrespectful to point out suspicious circumstances around the whole thing, google and you will find

[unstuck]

The rag heads were here recruiting in Gore about 10 yrs ago, 2 van loads of the fuckers. A mate of mine from chch joined up with them, but had a change of mind before departing for overseas.:shifty:

[R650R]

Here we go...
"Before it emerged this month that Baryalei had become a senior Islamic State militant, he worked as a bouncer in Sydney's Kings Cross nightclub district and had also played a bit part in the TV series Underbelly."

Working as a bouncer in an establishment serving/selling alcohol in a red light district, oh yeah he's a real fundamentalist strict muslim that one...
Worked as a tv actor, will have been listed on the web agency websites then. Maybe even on one of the official crisis actors sites (google it).

Here's what happened, he got a call saying they need someone like him to play part x. They arrest him then dope him afterwards like the batman shooter so he cant say anything of value....

[Oakie]

google and you will find
On the internet so it must be true huh?

Actually you can find anything. To test that I thought of something impossible and googled it. Go google 'three headed giraffe' and see what I found. Now tell me if it is true ...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Here we go...
"Before it emerged this month that Baryalei had become a senior Islamic State militant, he worked as a bouncer in Sydney's Kings Cross nightclub district and had also played a bit part in the TV series Underbelly."

Working as a bouncer in an establishment serving/selling alcohol in a red light district, oh yeah he's a real fundamentalist strict muslim that one...
Worked as a tv actor, will have been listed on the web agency websites then. Maybe even on one of the official crisis actors sites (google it).

Here's what happened, he got a call saying they need someone like him to play part x. They arrest him then dope him afterwards like the batman shooter so he cant say anything of value....

Occam's Razor, big guy. look it up.

Is it more likely that a bunch of documented fundy fuckwits are trying to do something as retarded as they were reported, or is it more likely that it is a gubblemunt engineered plot to...... do what exactly: justify sending troops into Iraq?

the problem with the gubblemunt conspiracy theory is: have you ever MET or dealt with any gubblemunt functionary? Ever? because they are usually minimally competent or even plain incompetent time served bureaucrats who would find it hard to get hard in a whorehouse, and who generally could not keep a secret if they tried. And keeping a secret on this scale? Just not gonna happen.

Its the main reason why (and it is, I suspect a form of mental illness and related to) the moon landings actually happened: the technology did not exist at the time to fake it convincingly so they had to do it for real. The parallel here is they could not fake this sort of fuckwittery convincingly so its more likely to be real than not.

[JimO]

Here we go...
"Before it emerged this month that Baryalei had become a senior Islamic State militant, he worked as a bouncer in Sydney's Kings Cross nightclub district and had also played a bit part in the TV series Underbelly."

Working as a bouncer in an establishment serving/selling alcohol in a red light district, oh yeah he's a real fundamentalist strict muslim that one...
Worked as a tv actor, will have been listed on the web agency websites then. Maybe even on one of the official crisis actors sites (google it).

Here's what happened, he got a call saying they need someone like him to play part x. They arrest him then dope him afterwards like the batman shooter so he cant say anything of value....
would you like to borrow my tinfoil hat

[husaberg]

I am not sure where this thread be heading but I do know that John Key is not allowing anyone to spy on us cause he sort of said so?
oh and if he actually did and then somehow forgot about it Well it would be just so stuff like this does not happen in NZ.
Kind of gets the spying scandal off the headlines though aye...;)
whens that election again..............

[Katman]

Is it more likely that a bunch of documented fundy fuckwits are trying to do something as retarded as they were reported, or is it more likely that it is a gubblemunt engineered plot to...... do what exactly: justify sending troops into Iraq?


Tony Abbott desperately wants to tongue Obama's arse.

There is sizeable opposition to sending Australian troops to Iraq.

What better way to swing public opinion?

[Virago]

On the internet so it must be true huh?

Actually you can find anything. To test that I thought of something impossible and googled it. Go google 'three headed giraffe' and see what I found. Now tell me if it is true ...

That's the sad thing about conspiracy nutters. They firmly believe that everything the government and mainstream media tells us is a lie, and that everything written on the internet by some equally obsessive nutter is the gospel truth. And they tell us that the wool is being pulled over OUR eyes...

[mashman]

That's the sad thing about conspiracy nutters. They firmly believe that everything the government and mainstream media tells us is a lie, and that everything written on the internet by some equally obsessive nutter is the gospel truth. And they tell us that the wool is being pulled over OUR eyes...

And then there's a mindless drones who doesn't question the official story, because it must be true. At least the conspiracy nutter makes their OWN mind up. The eye can be fooled.

[Kickaha]

At least the conspiracy nutter makes their OWN mind up.
They don't really, they operate on the premise the Goverment and other organisations always lie and therefore anything they say is wrong

[Katman]

They don't really, they operate on the premise the Goverment and other organisations always lie and therefore anything they say is wrong

Tony Abbott's government is one of the most strongly reviled governments in Australia's history. (For good reason).

I wouldn't put anything past them.

[mashman]

Occam's Razor, big guy. look it up.

Is it more likely that a bunch of documented fundy fuckwits are trying to do something as retarded as they were reported, or is it more likely that it is a gubblemunt engineered plot to...... do what exactly: justify sending troops into Iraq?

the problem with the gubblemunt conspiracy theory is: have you ever MET or dealt with any gubblemunt functionary? Ever? because they are usually minimally competent or even plain incompetent time served bureaucrats who would find it hard to get hard in a whorehouse, and who generally could not keep a secret if they tried. And keeping a secret on this scale? Just not gonna happen.

Its the main reason why (and it is, I suspect a form of mental illness and related to) the moon landings actually happened: the technology did not exist at the time to fake it convincingly so they had to do it for real. The parallel here is they could not fake this sort of fuckwittery convincingly so its more likely to be real than not.

He used Occam's Razor :bleh:.

You seem to know a lot. Why are IS fighting their war? Whilst you're at it, why are the US arming syrian rebels? the ukrainian army? the egyptians? Then ask yourself, is the technology available to reproduce a film of someone being decapitated (You like yer movies)? Is there a will amongst certain politicians to protect the economy (military industrial complex) in its current state (NSA, FBI, CIA... how do they make a return on investment?) and the american way of life? Enough reason to spark war? Yes. Did it actually happen that way? There is absolutely no way to know for sure.

But there was something we watched on RT the other night, de missus remembers it, where they showed partial video from the beheadings. On the first video, when the camera zooms in, the flag in the corner moves in with the picture because it has been added over the picture. On the second video, as the camera zoomed in, the animated wavey flag in the corner moved out of shot, which would lead me to think that the animated wavey flag was already in the picture and wasn't added over the top. In other words, the second one looked to have been filmed on a green screen. Make of it what you will.

Go ahead, throw the conspiracy stone, but I reckon there's a mix of truthful and falsified "accounts" pumped out by the media and it's getting harder and harder to tell the difference.

[mashman]

They don't really, they operate on the premise the Goverment and other organisations always lie and therefore anything they say is wrong

:rofl: says who? the govt :eek:... they operate on the premise that something is fishy. You're operating on the assumption that you know how every single individual comes to their own conclusion. Propaganda 101, rely on some research that all states that all conspiracy theorists breath oxygen and exhale madness.

[Katman]

At least the ISIS and Ebola stories are keeping people's minds off MH17.

[pete376403]

At least the ISIS and Ebola stories are keeping people's minds off MH17.
Don't hear much about MH370 these days, either.

[husaberg]

Don't hear much about MH370 these days, either.

Barely a peep out of it for ages.............

[mashman]

Don't hear much about MH370 these days, either.

There was, Naughty journalist? (https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/24999968/i-actually-know-what-had-actually-happened-with-mh370-police-chief/), recently and potential wreckage MH370 mystery: 58 ‘hard objects’ found in Indian Ocean (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/42456184.cms)

[FJRider]

That's the sad thing about conspiracy nutters. They firmly believe that everything the government and mainstream media tells us is a lie, and that everything written on the internet by some equally obsessive nutter is the gospel truth. And they tell us that the wool is being pulled over OUR eyes...

And now after you have said that ... you expect us to believe what you've said .. :scratch:

[scrivy]

The US and UK are disgusted with the IS beheadings.......... ??
So why then is their middle eastern ally responsible for more beheadings than IS........??
Do you see them complaining about Saudi Arabia? Why not? Hmmmmm.... how much oil and oil money goes to the US and UK? How much real estate does Saudi Arabia own in the US?

The US is appalled by the beheadings...... yeah fucken right!

[Akzle]

or is it more likely that it is a gubblemunt engineered plot to...... do what exactly: justify sending troops into Iraq?


that one. I pick that one. False flags, fooling fools and moring morons since ages ago.

[yokel]

That's the sad thing about conspiracy nutters. They firmly believe that everything the government and mainstream media tells us is a lie, and that everything written on the internet by some equally obsessive nutter is the gospel truth. And they tell us that the wool is being pulled over OUR eyes...

not everything the government and mainstream media tells us is the truth and not everything on the internet is a lie.
the trick is being able to distinguish what is a lie and the truth and all the bullshit in between, but of course it is a whole lot easier to just right off one side as a bunch of conspiracy nutters or mind control corporate mainstream media

[yokel]

At least the ISIS and Ebola stories are keeping people's minds off MH17.

last I heard from the MSM was "high energy projectiles" now if these "high energy projectiles" were from missile shrapnel we'd hear all about it.
I'd say it is gun fire from Ukrainian jet fighters

[ellipsis]

...the biggest business to have ever flourished since tribalism went international, three or four (maybe more) millenia ago was war and dirty girls...nuthin's changed...fuck your conspiraciy theories and their head stuck up their anal tube, bumbling, haven't got a clue but I'm all right types...while your talkin' shite the war drags on...relentlessly...it's the biggest show on the planet and always will be ...we pay with blood and angst and money, lot's of it...lower socio types bear the brunt...what's new...

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[yokel]

...the biggest business to have ever flourished since tribalism went international, three or four (maybe more) millenia ago was war and dirty girls...nuthin's changed...fuck your conspiraciy theories and their head stuck up their anal tube, bumbling, haven't got a clue but I'm all right types...while your talkin' shite the war drags on...relentlessly...it's the biggest show on the planet and always will be ...we pay with blood and angst and money, lot's of it...lower socio types bear the brunt...what's new...



it's all right man we are on the other side of Dec 21 2012, thats whats new.

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[ellipsis]

[QUOTE=yokel;1130772203]it's all right man we are on the other side of Dec 21 2012, thats whats new.

...what's that mean?, shit for brains...

[JATZ]

[QUOTE=yokel;1130772203]it's all right man we are on the other side of Dec 21 2012, thats whats new.

...what's that mean?, shit for brains...

The Mayans fucked up their calendar

[HenryDorsetCase]

[QUOTE=ellipsis;1130772191]...the biggest business to have ever flourished since tribalism went international, three or four (maybe more) millenia ago was war and dirty girls...nuthin's changed...fuck your conspiraciy theories and their head stuck up their anal tube, bumbling, haven't got a clue but I'm all right types...while your talkin' shite the war drags on...relentlessly...it's the biggest show on the planet and always will be ...we pay with blood and angst and money, lot's of it...lower socio types bear the brunt...what's new...
/QUOTE]

less war, more dirty girls please. When I rule you all (and I will) that will be my catchphrase

[rebel]

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Yep after the fake ones in Woolwich London where they nearly got caught out they've had to resort to the FBI method of rounding up brain damaged patsies to keep the scare mongering going.
Really if we had real terrorists and sleeper cells this stuff would be all over the show but the trappings of western lifestyle are too distracting for even the most dedicated jiahdis.
Just image you arrive in a happening place like Melbourne and Sydney with $10,000 from uncle bin limpin, do you head straight to the local fertilizer store or do you stop and buy a few dozen cold Victoria Bitters.
Your feeling pretty mellow now so may as well head to the red light district like atta and the other 911 'pilots' did and check out that the 77 virgins aren't already booked to be dancing on your big day.
Six hours later you emerge penniless with a new found love for western lifestyle choices.

Isn't it a bit obvious how they keep catching these (foreign language speaking) patsies right before they are about to do something but they NEVER arrest (English speaking) crims/gangsters just before a bank robbery or other activities. Even drug raids seem to go wrong easy on those cop shows but they ALWAYS catch the terror patsies with no problems.

Righto, and if one of these knuckle dragging paedophile worshipping parasites attacked one of YOUR loved ones for being a westerner I guess you'll lay blame at the govt and their inaction to prevent it?

Fact is these Muslims arent compatiable with Western countries morals/values. Look at Europe and UK to see what shit they are in, and it is really going to hit the fan in the next ten years, mark my words. Do you think these white do gooders in Aus/NZ will take note? Or stick their head further up their arse, sweeping the growing amount of evidence (that they don't belong in our nations) under the rug.

We need to deport every one of the filthy bastards. Any resistance, a bullet to the back of the head while they're standing infront of a two metre hole will sort it. Westerners have turned into a pack of pussies since the snowball effect of the 1960s civil rights white guilt movement, and these third world invaders know this and love it. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile, but you cant have a first world country with a third world population.

[Katman]

Fact is these Muslims arent compatiable with Western countries morals/values. Look at Europe and UK to see what shit they are in, and it is really going to hit the fan in the next ten years, mark my words.

Perhaps if the West had left the Middle East alone.....

[R650R]

Well well well... lookee what we have here. Does this lookfamiliar???? the beheading of a fictitious TV character in a Turkish television drama titled "WOLVES VALLEY", which was filmed in February of 2014.

Youtube has removed the video surprise surprise but Jim Stone has made a GIF of the relevant part here: http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/newisiswolf.html
Disclaimer I don't necessarily agree with everything on his site but this vid clip is too good to miss!

And when your the head honcho assassin why do you need a leather manbag/purse/holster, surely you have a minion to carry al your shit around for you in the desert heat?

[rebel]

Perhaps if the West had left the Middle East alone.....

What is that suppose to mean... some kind of justification?

Is it enough justfication for them to take Western women and children as sex slaves once they form the majority?

Enough justification to deal with faggots by the sword as a majority? Not that I support homos or feminists, but I have to laugh that both groups will be the first to take the moral high ground and champion for the rights of muslims and other selected 'minorities' when these minorities despise them more than anyone else, lmao.

[Katman]

What is that suppose to mean... some kind of justification?


Not necessarily a justification, but it's no secret that the West has subjected the Middle East to more than seven decades of political intrigue and meddling - specifically to create a destabilized region that is ripe for Western exploitation.

[mashman]

Fact is these Muslims arent compatiable with Western countries morals/values


:killingme woo that's friday off to a flier. Of course muslims are compatible with western countries morals/values, they've been in western country's for decades if not centuries you knuckle dragging paedophile worshipping parasite. If they couldn't assimilate there wouldn't be any in any western country. You fuckin rednecks are all the same... likely due to being breastfed by their sister.

[rebel]

:killingme woo that's friday off to a flier. Of course muslims are compatible with western countries morals/values, they've been in western country's for decades if not centuries you knuckle dragging paedophile worshipping parasite. If they couldn't assimilate there wouldn't be any in any western country. You fuckin rednecks are all the same... likely due to being breastfed by their sister.

Multiculturalism is a huge fail. We havent seen the long term impacts of it yet becuase it is on a much smaller scale in NZ, the closest we have might be Lakemba in Sydney. But do refer to my next paragraph of the post you quoted me on, try to pull your denial head out of your arse.

Or assuming you're an infidel, do yourself and ourselves a favour and go to some of the exclusively Muslim neighbourhoods in England. We need week cunts like you taken out of the gene pool.

Katman, yeah, but their tendency for violence goes back more than several decades, refer to their lawbook for example.

[Katman]

Katman, yeah, but their tendency for violence goes back more than several decades, refer to their lawbook for example.

Yeah, 'cos the Crusades never happened, did they?

[rebel]

Yeah, 'cos the Crusades never happened, did they?

Which is always brought up in defense or justifcation of the intentions Muslims have, or actions they do in Western nations at present. And na I'm not religious.

[mashman]

Multiculturalism is a huge fail. We havent seen the long term impacts of it yet becuase it is on a much smaller scale in NZ, the closest we have might be Lakemba in Sydney. But do refer to my next paragraph, and try to pull your denial head out of your arse.

Or assuming you're an infidel, do yourself and ourselves a favour and go to some of the exclusively Muslim neighbourhoods in England. We need week cuntslike you taken out of the gene pool.

Katman, yeah, but their tendency for violence goes back more than several decades, refer to their lawbook for example.

Multiculturism is a fail? bwaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa. I think it's exceptionally successful. Can you tell me why muslim extremists are doing what they are doing? And don't say because they hate the west, coz you're out of your tiny mind if you think that's all that's behind it. The vast majority of mulims in western communities live peacefully with their non-muslim neighbours? Tell me about that denial again?

I lived in the UK for 37 years and my best mate at school and his family were muslim. I'm weak because I'm peaceful and therefore I must be defenseless? Honestly son, you need to get out more, much more, much much much more.

[TheDemonLord]

Multiculturism is a fail? bwaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa. I think it's exceptionally successful. Can you tell me why muslim extremists are doing what they are doing? And don't say because they hate the west, coz you're out of your tiny mind if you think that's all that's behind it. The vast majority of mulims in western communities live peacefully with their non-muslim neighbours? Tell me about that denial again?

I lived in the UK for 37 years and my best mate at school and his family were muslim. I'm weak because I'm peaceful and therefore I must be defenseless? Honestly son, you need to get out more, much more, much much much more.

I'm going to jump in quickly - I agree with parts of Rebel's post (although not all of it entirely) but I will ask this:

When I go to a predominantly Muslim country - I am expected to abide by Islamic law to a degree - no wearing my Iron Maiden T shirt, no importing of items deemed 'Offensive to Islam' )which translates into whatever the hell they don't like at the time), my Wife is expected to cover skin and her hair when in Public.

All this is 100% fine - its their country, their rules and as a Guest, I am expected to show respect.

When a Muslim comes to a Western country - Do we hold them to the same expectations that they hold us when we visit? the answer IMO is no. In Western civilisation, going out in public with your Identity concealed is the domain of Criminals, yet we make concessions where in the reverse situation, concessions would not be made.

And on top of that, when someone comes to another country - enjoys the freedoms, the infrastructure, the welfare systems - all the perks of modern western civilisation - and then uses this to recruit people to commit acts against said western civilisation, While continuing to enjoy those freedoms..... it certainly makes me angry to the point that I would be happy to judge them by the same yardstick that they judge their own criminals - Public stoning for example....

[unstuck]

Public stoning for example....

Thats not a punishment bro. :devil2::devil2::devil2:

Unless it is really crap weed.

[TheDemonLord]

Thats not a punishment bro. :devil2::devil2::devil2:

Unless it is really crap weed.

You must spread some rep around before giving it to the dirty Punk again....

[mashman]

I'm going to jump in quickly - I agree with parts of Rebel's post (although not all of it entirely) but I will ask this:

When I go to a predominantly Muslim country - I am expected to abide by Islamic law to a degree - no wearing my Iron Maiden T shirt, no importing of items deemed 'Offensive to Islam' )which translates into whatever the hell they don't like at the time), my Wife is expected to cover skin and her hair when in Public.

All this is 100% fine - its their country, their rules and as a Guest, I am expected to show respect.

When a Muslim comes to a Western country - Do we hold them to the same expectations that they hold us when we visit? the answer IMO is no. In Western civilisation, going out in public with your Identity concealed is the domain of Criminals, yet we make concessions where in the reverse situation, concessions would not be made.

And on top of that, when someone comes to another country - enjoys the freedoms, the infrastructure, the welfare systems - all the perks of modern western civilisation - and then uses this to recruit people to commit acts against said western civilisation, While continuing to enjoy those freedoms..... it certainly makes me angry to the point that I would be happy to judge them by the same yardstick that they judge their own criminals - Public stoning for example....

The west has laws that the east doesn't have. The east has laws that the west doesn't have. Meh. If the west decides to grant some form of dispensation that favours muslims, then that's what the west has done, fuck all to do with the east, they only asked. The east can ask, the west will do what it chooses to do. Similarly if the west request certain dispensations of the east, they'll either agree or not. Both east and west will end up going against what once was should they grant those dispensations.

If you were palestinian in 1968, do you think that you might be a bit pissed off at the actions of the west prior to and since then? All I hear from you guys is that the east demands X and the poor poor west are fed up with it, so therefore they must blow the muslim to smithereens wherever they are found. Pretty fuckin pathetic really and hardly surprising that islam fight back. I would almost happily accept beheading for kiddy fiddlers, rapists etc... However there are many eastern "laws" that I disagree with. In regards to the actions of the west, I absolutely deplore what they're doing in my name because their aggression breeds the very same extremists!

Perhaps you can tell me how this whole east (islam) and west (christian) divide started?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Perhaps if the West had left the Middle East alone.....

but we mistakenly left a lot of our oil there so we need to get that, clearly.

[mashman]

Which is always brought up in defense or justifcation of the intentions Muslims have, or actions they do in Western nations at present. And na I'm not religious.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m53ANLQi_fA

Western aggression appeased by muslims, in england. Can you explain how this didn't turn into the total cluster fuck that your viewpoint would class as inevitable?

[Katman]

but we mistakenly left a lot of our oil there so we need to get that, clearly.

That God fella's a funny old duffer, isn't he?

Joshing with us like that.

[rebel]

Multiculturism is a fail? bwaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa. I think it's exceptionally successful. Can you tell me why muslim extremists are doing what they are doing? And don't say because they hate the west, coz you're out of your tiny mind if you think that's all that's behind it. The vast majority of mulims in western communities live peacefully with their non-muslim neighbours? Tell me about that denial again?

I lived in the UK for 37 years and my best mate at school and his family were muslim. I'm weak because I'm peaceful and therefore I must be defenseless? Honestly son, you need to get out more, much more, much much much more.

You're worse than most of the population who are apathetic, you are delisional. What makes you think inviting hundreds of thousands of Muslims from the M.E and Africa into Europe and having them breed 2-3 times that of the native population is a good idea that wont have any negative flow on effects?

We are already seeing the demands Muslims have been making in Belgium, Netherlands, Finland etc. What is going to happen WHEN they are a majority. Look at Europe, multiculturaliam as we know it IS a failed experiment stemming over the last five decades and we are gradually seeing the negative impacts it has on the host country. Sweden is the reported rape capital of the world, and its not Swedes doing the raping. Enoch Powell was right and look at the reception he recieved all those years ago.

It is a waste of time trying to get through to you lot. You live in denial, your lefty liberal idealistic outlook on life is a form of mental illness. You lot need to learn the hard way, ie Amy Biehl etc.

[TheDemonLord]

Perhaps you can tell me how this whole east (islam) and west (christian) divide started?

My Non-existant Monotheistic Deity can kick your Non-Existant Monotheistic Deity's Ass

[HenryDorsetCase]

That God fella's a funny old duffer, isn't he?

Joshing with us like that.

She works in mysterious ways.

Though personally I am a La Veyan Satanist with some theistic tendencies.*




*I'm not but internet chocolate fish to whoever can identify that quote from a recent TV series

[HenryDorsetCase]

You're worse than most of the population who are apathetic, you are delisional. What makes you think inviting hundreds of thousands of Muslims from the M.E and Africa into Europe and having them breed 2-3 times that of the native population is a good idea that wont have any negative flow on effects?

We are already seeing the demands Muslims have been making in Belgium, Netherlands, Finland etc. What is going to happen WHEN they are a majority. Look at Europe, multiculturaliam as we know it IS a failed experiment stemming over the last five decades and we are gradually seeing the negative impacts it has on the host country. Sweden is the reported rape capital of the world, and its not Swedes doing the raping. Enoch Powell was right and look at the reception he recieved all those years ago.

It is a waste of time trying to get through to you lot. You live in denial, your lefty liberal idealistic outlook on life is a form of mental illness. You lot need to learn the hard way, ie Amy Biehl etc.

Victorian England, and prior to that the Raj was pretty much the pinnacle of Western civilisation if you ask me.

[angle]

In Western civilisation, going out in public with your Identity concealed is the domain of Criminals, yet we make concessions where in the reverse situation, concessions would not be made.
I don't know, I certainly wouldn't mind some western chicks covering themselves up, faces included.


And on top of that, when someone comes to another country - enjoys the freedoms, the infrastructure, the welfare systems - all the perks of modern western civilisation.
The perks of modern western civilisation? The ones that are based on the sciences developed by the arabs, oil produced by the arabs and goods manufactured by the chinese?

[oldrider]

You're worse than most of the population who are apathetic, you are delisional. What makes you think inviting hundreds of thousands of Muslims from the M.E and Africa into Europe and having them breed 2-3 times that of the native population is a good idea that wont have any negative flow on effects?

We are already seeing the demands Muslims have been making in Belgium, Netherlands, Finland etc. What is going to happen WHEN they are a majority. Look at Europe, multiculturaliam as we know it IS a failed experiment stemming over the last five decades and we are gradually seeing the negative impacts it has on the host country. Sweden is the reported rape capital of the world, and its not Swedes doing the raping. Enoch Powell was right and look at the reception he recieved all those years ago.

It is a waste of time trying to get through to you lot. You live in denial, your lefty liberal idealistic outlook on life is a form of mental illness. You lot need to learn the hard way, ie Amy Biehl etc.

True! Enoch Powell was a man ahead of his time and denigrated by the great socialist unwashed for being correct! :facepalm:

Scotland's independence is just another step in the systematic destruction of Great Britain by the Zionist NWO planners! :shifty:

(First the Empire, then the commonwealth, now Great Britain herself! ... All controlled through indebtedness from the second world war!)

Unless of course independent Scotland joins up with the BRICS Bank group their total and utter failure is eminent! :kick:

[mashman]

You're worse than most of the population who are apathetic, you are delisional. What makes you think inviting hundreds of thousands of Muslims from the M.E and Africa into Europe and having them breed 2-3 times that of the native population is a good idea that wont have any negative flow on effects?

We are already seeing the demands Muslims have been making in Belgium, Netherlands, Finland etc. What is going to happen WHEN they are a majority. Look at Europe, multiculturaliam as we know it IS a failed experiment stemming over the last five decades and we are gradually seeing the negative impacts it has on the host country. Sweden is the reported rape capital of the world, and its not Swedes doing the raping. Enoch Powell was right and look at the reception he recieved all those years ago.

It is a waste of time trying to get through to you lot. You live in denial, your lefty liberal idealistic outlook on life is a form of mental illness. You lot need to learn the hard way, ie Amy Biehl etc.

Do the majority of muslims live peacefully and in accordance with western rules?

Funny, I see the exact same demands being made by westerners when they try to ram democracy down the throat of nations that don't want democracy. When they are a majority, your head will be removed from your shoulders and I'll sit back and kick it with the hip muslims. I fuckin howl with laughter at how morons like yourself who define culture through religion and see it as a reason to dehumanise people. You're entertaining if nothing else... and WOW you close with a beaut that pegs all muslim as rapists :killingme that's some great work there.

It's a waste of time because you're a fuckin idiot. You and your cohorts have been saying the same thing for thousands of years and, as time has passed by, your view has become a minority view... which would lend to the theory that you're the brainwashed imbecile. Your view is ancient and it is dying, tis one of the main reasons that those who share your unfounded concerns need to manufacture war. Pathetic really.


My Non-existant Monotheistic Deity can kick your Non-Existant Monotheistic Deity's Ass

Why not... let's use religion as a reason for the work of men as that excuse has worked for millennia.

[HenryDorsetCase]

religion = mental illness and should be treated as such.

[scrivy]

Fuck me!!
There's some fired up people here today......!!

What would our grandfathers think about us today, letting in radicals from other countries that have no aspirations to assimilate into our cultures?? Tell me why again they went to war and died for us and our beliefs? I think they'd be mortified!

Its not the person whose irresponsible, it's the conflicting religions. When you're born (if you're religious), then automatically you hate about 2/3rds of the rest of the worlds population. Sheer fucken madness!

The radical preachings should never be allowed in any countries that never had it before. Simple. It incites hatred.

301107

Once radical muslims take over - and they will (a fact proven by the breeding numbers), then Sharia law will prevail, and you can kiss goodbye to our way of life. Being 'Stoned' isn't what you think it'll be.....

[TheDemonLord]

Why not... let's use religion as a reason for the work of men as that excuse has worked for millennia.

If you want good people to commit evil - you need Religon

-Christopher Hitchens

[mashman]

religion = mental illness and should be treated as such.

So you want everyone dead. Even as leader of the newly free world you'll find that one lonely.

[Akzle]

All this is 100% fine - its their country, their rules and as a Guest, I am expected to show respect.

When a Muslim comes to a Western country - Do we hold them to the same expectations that they hold us when we visit? the answer IMO is no. In Western civilisation, going out in public with your Identity concealed is the domain of Criminals, yet we make concessions where in the reverse situation, concessions would not be made.
there's a law against women wearing hats here? fuck me.. what a fascist nation we live in.


And on top of that, when someone comes to another country - enjoys the freedoms, the infrastructure, the welfare systems - all the perks of modern western civilisation - and then uses this to recruit people to commit acts against said western civilisation
you're right. no-one here is able to make up their own mind about anything. all it takes to turn them off the righteous path is some sand nigger preaching about the other profit. lawdy lawdy!!

You're worse than most of the population who are apathetic, you are delisional. What makes you think inviting hundreds of thousands of Muslims from the M.E and Africa into Europe and having them breed 2-3 times that of the native population is a good idea that wont have any negative flow on effects?

We are already seeing the demands Muslims have been making in Belgium, Netherlands, Finland etc. What is going to happen WHEN they are a majority. Look at Europe, multiculturaliam as we know it IS a failed experiment stemming over the last five decades and we are gradually seeing the negative impacts it has on the host country. Sweden is the reported rape capital of the world, and its not Swedes doing the raping. Enoch Powell was right and look at the reception he recieved all those years ago.

It is a waste of time trying to get through to you lot. You live in denial, your lefty liberal idealistic outlook on life is a form of mental illness. You lot need to learn the hard way, ie Amy Biehl etc.
hlyfknsht
you.
are.
a.
moron.

What makes you think inviting hundreds of thousands of Muslims from the M.E and Africa into Europe and having them breed 2-3 times that of the native population is a good idea that wont have any negative flow on effects? p
well, then they'd for a democratic majority, so your opinion wouldn't matter, because according to democracy, fuck you.


What would our grandfathers think about us today, letting in radicals from other countries that have no aspirations to assimilate into our cultures?? Tell me why again they went to war and died for us and our beliefs? I think they'd be mortified!
radical by whose terms? or radical simply because they don't like the ideology of the consumeristic jew-ridden western "society"?


Its not the person whose irresponsible, it's the conflicting religions. When you're born (if you're religious), then automatically you hate about 2/3rds of the rest of the worlds population. Sheer fucken madness!
no-one is born religious. except maybe the telly-llama.


The radical preachings should never be allowed in any countries that never had it before. Simple. It incites hatred.
yeah. close all the borders. all of them. no-one is allowed in or out of any country ever again. problem solved. and you're not allowed to internet to any other country incase you get some different ideas.

apparently, all it takes to incite hatred in you cracker ass motherfuckers, is the word "moslem"


Once radical muslims take over - and they will (a fact quoted by the breeding numbers), then Sharia law will prevail, and you can kiss goodbye to our way of life. Being 'Stoned' isn't what you think it'll be.....

you people seriously believe this shit? "fuck me, the yellow peril!" "holy shit, communism's a' comin' " "ahhhhhhh protestants! they'll disrupt our catholicism!" -- all of those things destroyed white civilisation as you know// o, wait on...

the sooner the human species eradicates themselves the better. mainly a'cause o people liek you. not the ragheads.

i cant believe how many people think any of this shit actually matters.

[mashman]

If you want good people to commit evil - you need Religon

-Christopher Hitchens

bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaa... nah, you simply need to give people leaders to act on their behalf. Whether it's religion or race or age or exchange mechanism currency or gender (I see they're finally letting women join Royal St Andrews) etc... they're just excuses and not reasons. They are one way or the highway.

That YOU choose to see religion as a reason means that you're happy for a govt to mandate genocide on your behalf. I'm not cool with that daddio, primarily as I've seen evidence that religion means fuck all to the majority of all religious people around the world. I choose not to accept religion as a valid reason for genocide.

[mashman]

there's a law against women wearing hats here? fuck me.. what a fascist nation we live in.


you're right. no-one here is able to make up their own mind about anything. all it takes to turn them off the righteous path is some sand nigger preaching about the other profit. lawdy lawdy!!

hlyfknsht
you.
are.
a.
moron.

well, then they'd for a democratic majority, so your opinion wouldn't matter, because according to democracy, fuck you.

radical by whose terms? or radical simply because they don't like the ideology of the consumeristic jew-ridden western "society"?


no-one is born religious. except maybe the telly-llama.


yeah. close all the borders. all of them. no-one is allowed in or out of any country ever again. problem solved. and you're not allowed to internet to any other country incase you get some different ideas.



you people seriously believe this shit? "fuck me, the yellow peril!" "holy shit, communism's a' comin' " "ahhhhhhh protestants! they'll disrupt our catholicism!" -- all of those things destroyed white civilisation as you know// o, wait on...

the sooner the human species eradicates themselves the better. mainly a'cause o people liek you. not the ragheads.

i cant believe how many people think any of this shit actually matters.

Cannot spread etc... but, Disco.....................

[buggerit]

Alot of the klu klux klan probably thought of themselves as christians,a tiny minority like that doesnot make all chritians terrorists.

[rebel]

Do the majority of muslims live peacefully and in accordance with western rules?

Funny, I see the exact same demands being made by westerners when they try to ram democracy down the throat of nations that don't want democracy. When they are a majority, your head will be removed from your shoulders and I'll sit back and kick it with the hip muslims. I fuckin howl with laughter at how morons like yourself who define culture through religion and see it as a reason to dehumanise people. You're entertaining if nothing else... and WOW you close with a beaut that pegs all muslim as rapists :killingme that's some great work there.

It's a waste of time because you're a fuckin idiot. You and your cohorts have been saying the same thing for thousands of years and, as time has passed by, your view has become a minority view... which would lend to the theory that you're the brainwashed imbecile. Your view is ancient and it is dying, tis one of the main reasons that those who share your unfounded concerns need to manufacture war. Pathetic really.





As I say, there is no reasoning with you lot, more sense could be talked into a brick wall. And yes, your opinion is clearly in the minority if you were in Europe...

http://www.thenewsstar.com/story/opinion/columnists/2014/09/16/williams-multiculturalism-failure/15708229/



German Chancellor Angela Merkel declared that in Germany, multiculturalism has “utterly failed.” Both Australia’s ex-prime minister John Howard and Spain’s ex-prime minister Jose Maria Aznar reached the same conclusion about multiculturalism in their countries.

British Prime Minister David Cameron has warned that multiculturalism is fostering extremist ideology and directly contributing to homegrown Islamic terrorism. UK Independence Party leader Nigel Farage said the United Kingdom’s push for multiculturalism has not united Britons but pushed them apart. It has allowed for Islam to emerge despite Britain’s Judeo-Christian culture.

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair said the roots of violent Islamism are not “superficial but deep” and can be found “in the extremist minority that now, in every European city, preach hatred of the West and our way of life.”


'Sharia controlled zone' in Germany: Group of young Muslims patrolling city streets

http://rt.com/news/185664-sharia-police-patrol-germany/

Islamic State and Rotherham abuse 'fuelling far right'

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29204170

Cost of non-Western immigration on the rise

http://www.thelocal.dk/20140916/non-western-immigrants-costs-exploded

A Swedish far-right party demanding sharp cuts in immigration has more than doubled its support in a parliamentary election.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/swedens-rises-amid-immigration-debate-25509682

Somali youth struggles discussed

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/08/08/somali-youth-struggles-discussed

No mosques or EU flags: France’s far-right mayors get down to business

http://www.france24.com/en/20140430-no-mosques-or-eu-flags-france-far-right-mayors-get-down-business/?ns_campaign=reseaux_sociaux&ns_source=FB&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=editorial&aef_campaign_ref=partage_aef&aef_campaign_date=2014-04-30



I could link thousands upon thousands of links to prove you are in la la land. They could hit you like a loaded B train and you still wouldnt wake up. One thing is certain is that your grand kids, and great grand kids will grow up detesting you and your kind for your limp wristed attitude as they're a minority in their own land.

[Swoop]

Do you see them complaining about Saudi Arabia?
Perhaps they should. A substantial amount of funding of terror organisations (Talli-tubbies, etc) comes from there.

last I heard from the MSM was "high energy projectiles" now if these "high energy projectiles" were from missile shrapnel we'd hear all about it.
I'd say it is gun fire from Ukrainian jet fighters
Shrapnel from an anti-aircraft missile is considered "high energy projectiles".

Righto, and if one of these knuckle dragging paedophile worshipping parasites attacked one of YOUR loved ones
You ARE referring to the catholic church, aren't you?

[Katman]

Perhaps they should. A substantial amount of funding of terror organisations (Talli-tubbies, etc) comes from there.


Don't forget their funding of ISIS.

Saudi Arabia also happens to be one of America's biggest Middle East Allies.

What does that say about America?

[scrivy]

Don't forget their funding of ISIS.

Saudi Arabia also happens to be one of America's biggest Middle East Allies.

What does that say about America?

Bingo! Like I said in post #25

[Akzle]

As I say, there is no reasoning with you lot, more sense could be talked into a brick wall. And yes, your opinion is clearly in the minority if you were in Europe...

http://www.thenewsstar.com/story/opinion/columnists/2014/09/16/williams-multiculturalism-failure/15708229/




'Sharia controlled zone' in Germany: Group of young Muslims patrolling city streets

http://rt.com/news/185664-sharia-police-patrol-germany/

Islamic State and Rotherham abuse 'fuelling far right'

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29204170

Cost of non-Western immigration on the rise

http://www.thelocal.dk/20140916/non-western-immigrants-costs-exploded

A Swedish far-right party demanding sharp cuts in immigration has more than doubled its support in a parliamentary election.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/swedens-rises-amid-immigration-debate-25509682

Somali youth struggles discussed

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/08/08/somali-youth-struggles-discussed

No mosques or EU flags: France’s far-right mayors get down to business

http://www.france24.com/en/20140430-no-mosques-or-eu-flags-france-far-right-mayors-get-down-business/?ns_campaign=reseaux_sociaux&ns_source=FB&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=editorial&aef_campaign_ref=partage_aef&aef_campaign_date=2014-04-30



I could link thousands upon thousands of links to prove you are in la la land. They could hit you like a loaded B train and you still wouldnt wake up. One thing is certain is that your grand kids, and great grand kids will grow up detesting you and your kind for your limp wristed attitude as they're a minority in their own land.

it saddens me that youre allowed to vote. Or breathe, for that matter.

[mashman]

As I say, there is no reasoning with you lot, more sense could be talked into a brick wall. And yes, your opinion is clearly in the minority if you were in Europe...

For the second time of asking....... Can you explain how this didn't turn into the total cluster fuck that your viewpoint would class as inevitable?



http://www.thenewsstar.com/story/opinion/columnists/2014/09/16/williams-multiculturalism-failure/15708229/




'Sharia controlled zone' in Germany: Group of young Muslims patrolling city streets

http://rt.com/news/185664-sharia-police-patrol-germany/

Islamic State and Rotherham abuse 'fuelling far right'

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29204170

Cost of non-Western immigration on the rise

http://www.thelocal.dk/20140916/non-western-immigrants-costs-exploded

A Swedish far-right party demanding sharp cuts in immigration has more than doubled its support in a parliamentary election.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/swedens-rises-amid-immigration-debate-25509682

Somali youth struggles discussed

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/08/08/somali-youth-struggles-discussed

No mosques or EU flags: France’s far-right mayors get down to business

http://www.france24.com/en/20140430-no-mosques-or-eu-flags-france-far-right-mayors-get-down-business/?ns_campaign=reseaux_sociaux&ns_source=FB&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=editorial&aef_campaign_ref=partage_aef&aef_campaign_date=2014-04-30

And for everyone one of those muslims there are 1 million who don't view westerners as infidel.



I could link thousands upon thousands of links to prove you are in la la land. They could hit you like a loaded B train and you still wouldnt wake up. One thing is certain is that your grand kids, and great grand kids will grow up detesting you and your kind for your limp wristed attitude as they're a minority in their own land.

You can't prove that I'm in la la land because you don't have any evidence. You've shown links to extremists. And for everyone one of those extremists there are 1 million who don't fit your stereotype. That you refuse to accept that speaks volumes in regards to your mental capacity. I nearly pissed myself at the merkel quote... psst, don't forget Holland because they must have banned the Burka by now? They've been harping on about it for long enough. Have there been any terrorist attacks in Holland recently? Why haven't the people voted for banning the Burka if there is such a clear and present danger? Propaganda for you foamy mouthed folk. TBH, I'd rather live under Sharia law than in any reality that you can dream up.

As for the rest of that, well, fantasy that my grand kids will hate me for doing nothing... WTF, have you been drinking unicorn blood or something?

Tell me. What does Islam want? What are their conditions for truce?

[R650R]

Righto, and if one of these knuckle dragging paedophile worshipping parasites attacked one of YOUR loved ones for being a westerner I guess you'll lay blame at the govt and their inaction to prevent it?


No I wouldn't blame the govt, and btw your talking about a real attack not a fake one. No that would purely rest with the offender for blame. As for pedo worshippers, you haven't noticed the no nonsense approach to crime in muslim countries, don't think its a problem for them compared to western society. And look at the common offender in NZ, its usually some whitey standing in the dock for that crime...



Fact is these Muslims arent compatiable with Western countries morals/values. Look at Europe and UK to see what shit they are in, and it is really going to hit the fan in the next ten years, mark my words. Do you think these white do gooders in Aus/NZ will take note? Or stick their head further up their arse, sweeping the growing amount of evidence (that they don't belong in our nations) under the rug.


I think they are very compatible and good hard workers, there doesn't seem to be welfare in their countries. One of my early employers was a local HB Iraqi, very successful, friendly and well liked.



Give them an inch and they'll take a mile, but you cant have a first world country with a third world population.

Look at Indonesia to our north, 100 million muslims there and doing pretty well, then there is Iran, Iraq prior to gulf wars, Libya prior to being bombed to bits...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Ws0Xy4QjE

[mashman]

Perhaps they should. A substantial amount of funding of terror organisations (Talli-tubbies, etc) comes from there.

I guess they learned how to fund such organisations by learning from the US having funded the IRA... achually, maybe that's the other way around <_<

[R650R]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0cDFICYXBY

[yokel]

[QUOTE=yokel;1130772203]it's all right man we are on the other side of Dec 21 2012, thats whats new.

...what's that mean?, shit for brains...

It means your mouth breathing days are numbered ya angry fucker

[Twentypercent]

One thing is certain is that your grand kids, and great grand kids will grow up detesting you and your kind for your limp wristed attitude as they're a minority in their own land.

My grandkids will be, as I am, eternally grateful to the culture that invented the kebab.

I fucking love kebabs.

[rebel]

For the second time of asking....... Can you explain how this didn't turn into the total cluster fuck that your viewpoint would class as inevitable?



And for everyone one of those muslims there are 1 million who don't view westerners as infidel.



You can't prove that I'm in la la land because you don't have any evidence. You've shown links to extremists. And for everyone one of those extremists there are 1 million who don't fit your stereotype. That you refuse to accept that speaks volumes in regards to your mental capacity. I nearly pissed myself at the merkel quote... psst, don't forget Holland because they must have banned the Burka by now? They've been harping on about it for long enough. Have there been any terrorist attacks in Holland recently? Why haven't the people voted for banning the Burka if there is such a clear and present danger? Propaganda for you foamy mouthed folk. TBH, I'd rather live under Sharia law than in any reality that you can dream up.

As for the rest of that, well, fantasy that my grand kids will hate me for doing nothing... WTF, have you been drinking unicorn blood or something?

Tell me. What does Islam want? What are their conditions for truce?


What does Islam want? Check out their increasing demands within EU countries. So there goes your assimilation/integration success myth.

Fact is the hordes of forced third world multiculturalism and Islamic extremists in EU countries have seen a huge rise in far right nationalist groups and growing resistance to immigration among the general population. People are gradually waking up. Their countries are quickly changing with the demographic shift. The shit will hit the fan one way or another in ten to twenty years. Keep telling yourself it won't happen. I'm sure all the Muslim underage sexual groomers that are rife in England and France are seen as 'moderates' as well, until they are exposed (Rotherham for example).

Make all the excuses you want, as I said there are thousands of examples that go against your theory and increasing everyday. The people of Europe are slowly waking up. Good things take time.

Btw there is no such country as Holland... Think you need to get out more.

[mashman]

What does Islam want? Check out their increasing demands within EU countries. So there goes your assimilation/integration success myth.

Fact is the hordes of forced third world multiculturalism and Islamic extremists in EU countries have seen a huge rise in far right nationalist groups and growing resistance to immigration among the general population. People are gradually waking up. Their countries are quickly changing with the demographic shift. The shit will hit the fan one way or another in ten to twenty years. Keep telling yourself it won't happen. I'm sure all the Muslim underage sexual groomers that are rife in England and France are seen as 'moderates' as well, until they are exposed (Rotherham for example).

Make all the excuses you want, as I said there are thousands of examples that go against your theory and increasing everyday. The people of Europe are slowly waking up. Good things take time.

Btw there is no such country as Holland... Think you need to get out more.

Oh, so you mean that a minority of extremists that move to a foreign country decide that they would like certain rights, like, to be treated as a human being but instead they're confronted with, fuck off raghead? So despite the vast majority integrating just fine, you class it as failure?

:killingme LIFO eh. So you've moved on from rape to all muslims being child sex groomers. Such awesomeness. I agree that if nothing changes there could well be a religious genocide (or the non-religious war being carried out for resources across the globe). There have been many "empires" over millennia, so why not an islamic one?

No, the media is pushing propaganda to fire up the dickheads of the world. It has been splattered in the newspapers of europe to provoke a reaction. And given that our infinite money resource is actually scarce, immigrants become an easy target to tickle the idiot bone of the easily led.

:killingme@Holland.

[unstuck]

No, the media is pushing propaganda to fire up the dickheads of the world.

Comment of the year award right there buddy. :first:

[scumdog]

Once radical muslims take over - and they will (a fact proven by the breeding numbers), then Sharia law will prevail, and you can kiss goodbye to our way of life. Being 'Stoned' isn't what you think it'll be.....


Bro in law arrived from a Muslim country (where he works) and said they've just upped the Sharia law shit to include "No Holding Hands' for couples while out in the streets.

Sheesh, what next? - flying more planes into buildings?:blink:

[scumdog]

On the internet so it must be true huh?

Actually you can find anything. To test that I thought of something impossible and googled it. Go google 'three headed giraffe' and see what I found. Now tell me if it is true ...

Yep, the mighty God of Truth - Google! :lol::lol::killingme

Oh, and: 'Must Spread Rep' for Oakie.

[rebel]

Oh, so you mean that a minority of extremists that move to a foreign country decide that they would like certain rights, like, to be treated as a human being but instead they're confronted with, fuck off raghead? So despite the vast majority integrating just fine, you class it as failure?

:killingme LIFO eh. So you've moved on from rape to all muslims being child sex groomers. Such awesomeness. I agree that if nothing changes there could well be a religious genocide (or the non-religious war being carried out for resources across the globe). There have been many "empires" over millennia, so why not an islamic one?

No, the media is pushing propaganda to fire up the dickheads of the world. It has been splattered in the newspapers of europe to provoke a reaction. And given that our infinite money resource is actually scarce, immigrants become an easy target to tickle the idiot bone of the easily led.

:killingme@Holland.

Huh... So you're saying these poor oppressed Muslims are fighting for their basic rights? Yet thousands of third worlders are trying to get into these evil oppressive EU countries illegally EVERDAY, bypassing safe havens on the way. Only one reason for it, no other place on earth will offer such generous welfare systems that they can leech off. Not that all of them are Muslims but the point stands. And the money will run out in due time.

I class these following examples of them in Western countries as failures. Failure to intergrate. failure to respect the customs and culture of the host nation. Failure for them to see there are other countries more compatable with their ways in which they can fuck off to. Them in our nations = huge failure. As I said give it time, the sleeping snowball is gaining momentum.

How about that successful integration...

Muslim Community Members Express Offense At Restaurant's Use Of The Word "Bacon" On Sign

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/muslim-community-members-express-offense-restaurants-use-word-bacon-sign

Staff at Muslim primary school 'caught on camera describing how clapping hands is Satanic and that gay people should be stoned to death'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690349/Gay-people-stoned-death-Staff-room-gossip-Muslim-school-overheard-TV.html

Halifax martial arts class separated by gender to accommodate Muslim man

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2014/01/20140115-190313.html

Subway removes ham and bacon from nearly 200 stores and offers halal meat only after 'strong demand' from Muslims

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616576/Subway-removes-ham-pork-nearly-200-stores-strong-demand-Muslims-eat-Halal-meat.html

Gender vs religion: Woman refused haircut by Muslim barber highlights problem of colliding rights

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/11/30/gender-vs-religion-woman-refused-haircut-by-muslim-barber-highlights-problem-of-colliding-rights/

Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/10532782/Muslim-staff-at-Marks-and-Spencer-can-refuse-to-sell-alcohol-and-pork.html

etcetera.

And yes, calling the Netherlands 'Holland', is like calling NZ Manawatu or Taranaki.

[yokel]

lets call it what it is, a bullshit distraction.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/journalists-on-twitter-see-terror-raids-as-a-distraction-from-domestic-issues/story-fnpdbcmu-1227062785727

[Katman]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/19/sydney-dawn-counter-terrorism-raids-why-now-and-why-so-few-answers

I love the comment 'there is absolutely no need to muzzle sheep'.

[bluninja]

Bro in law arrived from a Muslim country (where he works) and said they've just upped the Sharia law shit to include "No Holding Hands' for couples while out in the streets.

Sheesh, what next? - flying more planes into buildings?:blink:

wow! So does Sharia law allow you to fly just one plane into a building? :innocent:

[mashman]

Bro in law arrived from a Muslim country (where he works) and said they've just upped the Sharia law shit to include "No Holding Hands' for couples while out in the streets.

Sheesh, what next? - flying more planes into buildings?:blink:

They must have copied that Hutt school that banned hugging.

[mashman]

Huh... So you're saying these poor oppressed Muslims are fighting for their basic rights? Yet thousands of third worlders are trying to get into these evil oppressive EU countries illegally EVERDAY, bypassing safe havens on the way. Only one reason for it, no other place on earth will offer such generous welfare systems that they can leech off. Not that all of them are Muslims but the point stands. And the money will run out in due time.

I class these following examples of them in Western countries as failures. Failure to intergrate. failure to respect the customs and culture of the host nation. Failure for them to see there are other countries more compatable with their ways in which they can fuck off to. Them in our nations = huge failure. As I said give it time, the sleeping snowball is gaining momentum.

How about that successful integration...

Muslim Community Members Express Offense At Restaurant's Use Of The Word "Bacon" On Sign

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/muslim-community-members-express-offense-restaurants-use-word-bacon-sign

Staff at Muslim primary school 'caught on camera describing how clapping hands is Satanic and that gay people should be stoned to death'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690349/Gay-people-stoned-death-Staff-room-gossip-Muslim-school-overheard-TV.html

Halifax martial arts class separated by gender to accommodate Muslim man

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2014/01/20140115-190313.html

Subway removes ham and bacon from nearly 200 stores and offers halal meat only after 'strong demand' from Muslims

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616576/Subway-removes-ham-pork-nearly-200-stores-strong-demand-Muslims-eat-Halal-meat.html

Gender vs religion: Woman refused haircut by Muslim barber highlights problem of colliding rights

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/11/30/gender-vs-religion-woman-refused-haircut-by-muslim-barber-highlights-problem-of-colliding-rights/

Muslim staff at Marks & Spencer can refuse to sell alcohol and pork

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/10532782/Muslim-staff-at-Marks-and-Spencer-can-refuse-to-sell-alcohol-and-pork.html

etcetera.

And yes, calling the Netherlands 'Holland', is like calling NZ Manawatu or Taranaki.

I can't be fucked. I agree that there is an issue to be addressed, but I don't believe in the slightest that integration is the issue given that the majority have integrated. The media are reporting on a minority muslim and it is being used to paint the majority of muslim as a threat...something that they are not. Don't be so fearful, go hug a muslim and walk hand in hand down the street. If he blows you both up, then I'll admit that I underestimated the gravity of the current situation.

[scumdog]

They must have copied that Hutt school that banned hugging.

Only they have cops patrolling for "Hand-hugging" out there!



( and people here worry about speeding tickets...;)

[yokel]

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/19/sydney-dawn-counter-terrorism-raids-why-now-and-why-so-few-answers

I love the comment 'there is absolutely no need to muzzle sheep'.

Ha true, but there is a need to herd the sheep

[Scouse]

How co-incidental New Zealand's National party is just about to be handed a loss in the general election because of their dodgy mass spying on the local populace through the GCSB. meanwhile a friendly 5 eyes partner on instructions from Washington and Tel Aviv conducts a timely raid that was not due to happen for another month on some Muslim family's. upshot is now kiwis are gullibly saying that maybe the GCSB is not so bad after all.

[R650R]

How co-incidental New Zealand's National party is just about to be handed a loss in the general election because of their dodgy mass spying on the local populace through the GCSB. meanwhile a friendly 5 eyes partner on instructions from Washington and Tel Aviv conducts a timely raid that was not due to happen for another month on some Muslim family's. upshot is now kiwis are gullibly saying that maybe the GCSB is not so bad after all.

Hhhhmmmm be much easier to just rig the vote, like they did in Scotland... More likely due to aussie commintting troops to ISIs battle

[Virago]

Hhhhmmmm be much easier to just rig the vote, like they did in Scotland...

:killingme:killingme:killingme

[scumdog]

How co-incidental New Zealand's National party is just about to be handed a loss in the general election because of their dodgy mass spying on the local populace through the GCSB.

Tell us more......:rolleyes:

[mashman]

Only they have cops patrolling for "Hand-hugging" out there!

( and people here worry about speeding tickets...;)

First world problems eh... kids could get detention here.

[tribsanor]

How co-incidental New Zealand's National party is just about to be handed a loss in the general election because of their dodgy mass spying on the local populace through the GCSB. meanwhile a friendly 5 eyes partner on instructions from Washington and Tel Aviv conducts a timely raid that was not due to happen for another month on some Muslim family's. upshot is now kiwis are gullibly saying that maybe the GCSB is not so bad after all.

how did your election result go down ?,drinks all round or a night of wet tissues .

[Scouse]

how did your election result go down ?,drinks all round or a night of wet tissues .Wet tissues

[Katman]

https://newmatilda.com/2014/09/23/abbott%E2%80%99s-anti-terror-laws-are-real-danger-australia

[mashman]

https://newmatilda.com/2014/09/23/abbott%E2%80%99s-anti-terror-laws-are-real-danger-australia

All coz that whitemothafucka, obama, went crying to his white mates (http://rt.com/news/190384-un-resolution-terrorism-mercenaries/) begging them to sanction his illegal actions. Fuckin scum the lot of them.

[TheDemonLord]

https://newmatilda.com/2014/09/23/abbott%E2%80%99s-anti-terror-laws-are-real-danger-australia

The points that the article was trying to make may have merit but were covered in the same level of Bias and Rhetoric as that which they were protesting - rendering the article unreadable

[mashman]

Must... not... humanise... the... enemy. (https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/25107100/turks-leave-for-family-friendly-is-group/#) (they sound like tories)

[mashman]

http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/groups/1/3/2933/thumb_620x2000/open_up.jpg

[Katman]

- rendering the article unreadable

What words were you struggling with?

[Katman]

Beheading has only become suddenly horrific to us since it's been thrust in our faces.

I'm currently reading about Algeria's civil war during the mid 90's. (A conflict that happened well within easy memory but how many of us remember, or even heard, anything about it?). More than 10,000 died exactly like that - without the fanfare of getting to publicly appeal to family or politician.

The Middle East is a shit hole. We should leave them to it. As harsh as it sounds, it sometimes sucks to be certain people.

Thankfully as oil becomes less of a desirable commodity we may well one day see the West lose it's fascination with the Middle East.

[TheDemonLord]

What words were you struggling with?

Mainly the overwhelming bias and regurgitated rhetoric....

The most frustrating part is that the article raises valid points - compromising freedom for security is a very slippery slope and any changes to the current balance must be debated at length as opposed to a knee jerk reaction.

[Robbo]

Wise Decisions..:whistle:

[scumdog]

Beheading has only become suddenly horrific to us since it's been thrust in our faces.

I'm currently reading about Algeria's civil war during the mid 90's. (A conflict that happened well within easy memory but how many of us remember, or even heard, anything about it?). More than 10,000 died exactly like that - without the fanfare of getting to publicly appeal to family or politician.

The Middle East is a shit hole. We should leave them to it. As harsh as it sounds, it sometimes sucks to be certain people.

Thankfully as oil becomes less of a desirable commodity we may well one day see the West lose it's fascination with the Middle East.

Those beheadings were normally done swiftly via sword or axe.

NOT sawing off with a large knife in a tad more painful and traumatic manner...

[MD]

Those beheadings were normally done swiftly via sword or axe.

NOT sawing off with a large knife in a tad more painful and traumatic manner...

Yeah this manner of beheading with a small knife is barbaric beyond comprehension. If beheading people alive isn't bad enough it's doing it in a manner that intended to draw out the suffering.

If I was given the choice of my execution I reckon the good old French guillotine over a bullet or injection. Silent, instant and supposedly painless. But the way these IS scum make the person wait, say a few tortured words all the while knowing that in a matter of seconds someone is going to hold them down and hack away at their neck and throat for what must seem like an eternity of pain and then they struggle to break their spine to finally remove the head. I've watched a clip of a Saudi Arabian public beheading by a LARGE and SHARP sword. One swing, instant death. Seems better than a bullet ripping through your organs, exploding out the back of your body and dying from the internal damage it did on the way through.

[ellipsis]

... modern history reflects the older versions... if you fucked with Franco you were garrotted...that sounds nicer, I'm sure...Jappies grew things through you...Idi and his generals ate their opponents good bits...nothing is new or any more vicious it seems...rusty blade, sharp one...all very human and sad... and shit...chips with that order?...

[scumdog]

Yeah this manner of beheading with a small knife is barbaric beyond comprehension. If beheading people alive isn't bad enough it's doing it in a manner that intended to draw out the suffering.

If I was given the choice of my execution I reckon the good old French guillotine over a bullet or injection. Silent, instant and supposedly painless. But the way these IS scum make the person wait, say a few tortured words all the while knowing that in a matter of seconds someone is going to hold them down and hack away at their neck and throat for what must seem like an eternity of pain and then they struggle to break their spine to finally remove the head. I've watched a clip of a Saudi Arabian public beheading by a LARGE and SHARP sword. One swing, instant death. Seems better than a bullet ripping through your organs, exploding out the back of your body and dying from the internal damage it did on the way through.

A good SHARP knife through both carotids in seconds would be not TOO bad pain-wise 'cos you would flake out pretty quick - but the terror and realisation etc would still not be much fun...

[awa355]

OOP's it's getting hot in the kitchen, Can I get a new passport and come home please :shit::shit:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11325784

[Katman]

Those beheadings were normally done swiftly via sword or axe.

NOT sawing off with a large knife in a tad more painful and traumatic manner...

You should do some more reading.

The majority of beheadings where dished out by death squads wiping out entire villages, including women and children, by hacking away at their throats.

[mashman]

"A spokesman for New Zealand Intelligence Community -- an agency made up of the Government Communications Security Bureau, the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet' National Assessments Bureau, and the Security Intelligence Service -- refused to comment on any specific case."

Fuck, we need more agencies to deal with the 4.5 million people in this country. There just aren't enough and we'll get overrun by, by, by, ah, too late.

[SPman]

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed – and hence clamorous to be led to safety – by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”– H.L. Mencken

"In the meantime, the politicians say we must sacrifice our freedoms (http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s4092676.htm) to fight the hazy threat of terror that would rob those freedoms.

Something doesn’t add up. But don’t rely on our Failed Estate to be able to count."


http://failedestate.com/

[oldrider]

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed – and hence clamorous to be led to safety – by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.”– H.L. Mencken

"In the meantime, the politicians say we must sacrifice our freedoms (http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s4092676.htm) to fight the hazy threat of terror that would rob those freedoms.

Something doesn’t add up. But don’t rely on our Failed Estate to be able to count."


http://failedestate.com/

OK you have identified the problem A and B fighting each other for the benefit of C ... find, identify and expose "C"!

Not so easy "C" has well and truly covered his/her tracks and any attempt to get close and you will become an immediate target!

The old adage "If you can't beat them ... join them" springs to mind. :Oops: another closed door slams shut in your face! :doh:

Again you are quite correct something doesn't add up ... despite all our best efforts we take one step forward and two back every time!

Seems proof that someone or something is pulling the strings the outcome is being managed ... for what ... for whom? :confused:

We have just had an election with clear result ... the failed estate? ... work in progress? ... simply more of the same? :brick:

What we need are answers and some direction for change ... what are you suggesting? :wait:

[caseye]

So tell me you conspiracist types, what of the poor woman beheaded in Oklahoma today by a disgruntled ex employee fired for attempting to convert his fellow workers before he had to behead them for non converting.Yep another muslim, who wasn't a terrorist!
Believe what you lot want to but to put your heads up your own arses is enough for me, I chose to see these very capable, very determined muslims continuing to do whatever they want in the name of their peaceful god in order to bring the rest of the worlds religions to heel, or die if they refuse.
I see no islamist's decrying these depraved atrocities, I see no western people getting out in the streets and demanding their govts protect them from these random and very serious atrocities.
I see many muslims walking around my home country smiling at the news of beheadings in other countries now, I say send em all home and let them do it to each other as they used to in the "old country"

Realistically though.

That isn't going to happen, so what I want to see is I want to see those muslims who are peace loving ordinary NZ citizens, friends and neighbours of ours living amongst us getting their own house in order and letting us their adopted country know in No Uncertain terms that they DO NOT Condone these acts.
That they are not so scared of the few amongst them that they won't DOB em in and help us rid our place of these fanatics.
Is that such a big wish list?
Prove to me/us that you are Kiwi's first, practicing your peaceful muslim
beliefs as is your right here in NZ and wanting to be accepted as our friends, neighbours and fellow workers.

[Akzle]

So tell me you conspiracist types, what of the poor woman beheaded in Oklahoma today by a disgruntled ex employee fired for attempting to convert his fellow workers before he had to behead them for non converting.Yep another muslim, who wasn't a terrorist!
Believe what you lot want to but to put your heads up your own arses is enough for me, I chose to see these very capable, very determined muslims continuing to do whatever they want in the name of their peaceful god in order to bring the rest of the worlds religions to heel, or die if they refuse.
I see no islamist's decrying these depraved atrocities, I see no western people getting out in the streets and demanding their govts protect them from these random and very serious atrocities.
I see many muslims walking around my home country smiling at the news of beheadings in other countries now, I say send em all home and let them do it to each other as they used to in the "old country"

Realistically though.

That isn't going to happen, so what I want to see is I want to see those muslims who are peace loving ordinary NZ citizens, friends and neighbours of ours living amongst us getting their own house in order and letting us their adopted country know in No Uncertain terms that they DO NOT Condone these acts.
That they are not so scared of the few amongst them that they won't DOB em in and help us rid our place of these fanatics.
Is that such a big wish list?
Prove to me/us that you are Kiwi's first, practicing your peaceful muslim
beliefs as is your right here in NZ and wanting to be accepted as our friends, neighbours and fellow workers.

come on dude, are you that white?
Its not a 'moslem v infidel' thing any more than 'jew v gentile'
it IS 'extremist motherfuckers v the sane.' unfortunately the sane sometimes vote for extremist motherfuckers to bomb dirty arabs on their behalf, so they can keep a clean conscience.

[caseye]

come on dude, are you that white?
Its not a 'moslem v infidel' thing any more than 'jew v gentile'
it IS 'extremist motherfuckers v the sane.' unfortunately the sane sometimes vote for extremist motherfuckers to bomb dirty arabs on their behalf, so they can keep a clean conscience.

White? me, yeah na! Now then.
It is no longer a small extremist group, it is an ever increasing mob of one religion who preach nice and calm while harbouring the worst kinds amongst them.
We need to wake up and sooner than the rest of the world or our world as it exists will cease to do so.Australia have just had a scare, the first muslim has beheaded a woman in the US, anyone here who doesn't think this sort of shit isn't coming here needs their heads read!
Because it will, for the simple reason that such atrocities committed here will impact across the world with far greater resonance and their apparent reach will be seen to be unhindered.
not to mention that the gutless C..ts are only to happy to pick on anyone smaller or weaker than them.

[Akzle]

White? me, yeah na! Now then.
It is no longer a small extremist group, it is an ever increasing mob of one religion who preach nice and calm while harbouring the worst kinds amongst them.
We need to wake up and sooner than the rest of the world or our world as it exists will cease to do so.Australia have just had a scare, the first muslim has beheaded a woman in the US, anyone here who doesn't think this sort of shit isn't coming here needs their heads read!
Because it will, for the simple reason that such atrocities committed here will impact across the world with far greater resonance and their apparent reach will be seen to be unhindered.
not to mention that the gutless C..ts are only to happy to pick on anyone smaller or weaker than them.

you beige prick!
No one is 'harbouring' anyone, any more than nz 'harbours' wife beaters, molestors, drunk drivers or any other undesirables. The MAJORITY, be they jewish, moslem, krishna, hindu or what ever, just want to get the fuck on with it and die comfortably. The 'moslem=terrorist' is the latest red herring and youre no more under threat than you were from pol fucking pots communism. Seriously! Baaaaaaaaaa!

[caseye]

you beige prick!
No one is 'harbouring' anyone, any more than nz 'harbours' wife beaters, molestors, drunk drivers or any other undesirables. The MAJORITY, be they jewish, moslem, krishna, hindu or what ever, just want to get the fuck on with it and die comfortably. The 'moslem=terrorist' is the latest red herring and youre no more under threat than you were from pol fucking pots communism. Seriously! Baaaaaaaaaa!

I wish you were right Akz, I truly do.
Yes NZ harbours all of those sorts, including people sent here to learn how to fly, those people were welcomed here with open arms by others of their ilk, not one of them was ratted/betrayed by their own.
Beige aye, Hell, I think I've found my colour.

[Akzle]

I wish you were right Akz, I truly do.
Yes NZ harbours all of those sorts, including people sent here to learn how to fly, those people were welcomed here with open arms by others of their ilk, not one of them was ratted/betrayed by their own.
Beige aye, Hell, I think I've found my colour.

'their own'??
newsflash yam-man, youre all HUMAN. 'They' are your brother man.
This irrelevant distracto-shit is whats blinding you to the fuckery perpetrated by 'your' own.
How do you feel about the french?

[oldrider]

Some theorise that we are linked more by blood type than skin colour ... quite plausible seems to make sense the way it's portrayed by the theorisers themselves! :yes:

[mashman]

'their own'??
newsflash yam-man, youre all HUMAN. 'They' are your brother man.
This irrelevant distracto-shit is whats blinding you to the fuckery perpetrated by 'your' own.
How do you feel about the french?

Afuckinmen.
French women smell nice.

[caseye]

French? let me see, never won a major war in their life, usually wave a nice white hanky before anything gets too close.
I know what you are saying and while I've enjoyed the repart'e I won't be swayed on this one.
Here we have many millions of one religion living in apparent peace with their adopted neighbours in their adopted countries, who don't, won't protect that adopted country and their supposed friends in case they are marked for a beheading by the very few of their religions hit men here and in all of the other countries where they have integrated so successfully.
Fear rules them even when they are thousands of miles away from their home countries where this sort of shit has always happened and has never been stopped by any of the ruling groups who either won an election or simply chopped off enough heads to get back into power.
I personally take each and every new acquaintance on face value and enjoy interacting with them, if they shit on me I'm usually open to giving them another chance, after that, by by.
Their race, religion, colour or opinions don't immediately cause me to dislike them, but their actions or lack of them do.
NZ is not immune to these terrorists, is what I am saying and if we don't all start taking a stand and drawing a line in the sand we will lose everything we've always held dear.
Still not one muslim group here in NZ or anywhere else has come out and decried what is happening in their religions name in their adopted countries! Speaks volumes to me.

[oldrider]

Still not one muslim group here in NZ or anywhere else has come out and decried what is happening in their religions name in their adopted countries! Speaks volumes to me.

There have been mild protestations uttered by some of the Muslim leadership on TV of late (I have noticed) maybe they are muzzled for selective viewing also! :shutup:

[Kickaha]

French? let me see, never won a major war in their life, usually wave a nice white hanky before anything gets too close..
You need to study some more history

Just because something is repeated over and over doesn't make it true

[caseye]

You need to study some more history

Just because something is repeated over and over doesn't make it true

Op's forgot ol short arse bone a part and yes you are right if we all simply listened without thought we'd come to believe anything.

[mstriumph]

Righto, and if one of these knuckle dragging paedophile worshipping parasites attacked one of YOUR loved ones for being a westerner I guess you'll lay blame at the govt and their inaction to prevent it?

Fact is these Muslims arent compatiable with Western countries morals/values. Look at Europe and UK to see what shit they are in, and it is really going to hit the fan in the next ten years, mark my words. Do you think these white do gooders in Aus/NZ will take note? Or stick their head further up their arse, sweeping the growing amount of evidence (that they don't belong in our nations) under the rug.

We need to deport every one of the filthy bastards. Any resistance, a bullet to the back of the head while they're standing infront of a two metre hole will sort it. Westerners have turned into a pack of pussies since the snowball effect of the 1960s civil rights white guilt movement, and these third world invaders know this and love it. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile, but you cant have a first world country with a third world population.

What's the difference, morally, between the actions of the Muslims you refer to in your para.1 and the actions you propose for Westerners in your para.3?

You can't 'morally' condemn violence by one lot and advocate it for the other ...
that's as warped as Abbot's thinking that he can prevent terror attacks in Aus by committing taxpayer funds sadly needed to rectify australian domestic problems (families living in cars because there's no affordable housing for one) to (metaphorically) 'shoot Muslims in the back of the head' in some foreign war.

Gotta undermine the do-badders, Bro ... works better, is less messy and costs soooooooooooo much less

[mstriumph]

come on dude, are you that white?
Its not a 'moslem v infidel' thing any more than 'jew v gentile'
it IS 'extremist motherfuckers v the sane.' unfortunately the sane sometimes vote for extremist motherfuckers to bomb dirty arabs on their behalf, so they can keep a clean conscience.

:no: probably true ... but what about guilt by association?:rolleyes:

"Tired out with life, I lay down in the gutter
A little pig he down beside me lay
A lady, passing by, was softly heard to utter
"You can always tell who boozes by the company he chooses,"
Then the pig got up and slowly walked away."

i'm not attributing this - it's Irish folkloric. The above version is my Grandfather's (who was neither Irish, white, Moslem, infidel, Jew, gentile, Arab, drunk or a pig ... and only questionably sane, like the rest of us) ... just saying :niceone:

[Akzle]

:no: probably true ... but what about guilt by association?:rolleyes:
[I]


Youre iraish?

[mstriumph]

Youre iraish? somewhere, like the rest of you........

[avgas]

Occam's Razor, big guy. look it up.
William of Occam grew up in the world where it too a fortnight for communications to travel around the globe. It took 20 times as long as that for people to travel the globe.
It was also a world where your known limits of the world were at a boundaries, not back on itself.

Trading was strong, but very few international trades completed.

Many people did not know anything past their own religion, state, church or even village.

The only thing that saved the entire world from massive outbreaks of disease - was isolation.

Physics was still a theory, with similar believing it as the gospel. Moores law, Einsteins theory of relativity, string theory, convergent theory.....hell even Maslows theory were not even glimmers in a persons eye.

So it was very easy for him to claim - "The most likely answer - is the simplest"

He was competing against things like voodoo and witchcraft.
If you told him there was a 100 year war between 2 nations - he would have asked us if we had read the stories about King Arthur also.

People are complicated. Solutions/Theory's thus are equally as complicated. Therefore - and answer sometimes can be complicated.
The razor does not cut like it used to.

[mashman]

William of Occam grew up in the world where it too a fortnight for communications to travel around the globe. It took 20 times as long as that for people to travel the globe.
It was also a world where your known limits of the world were at a boundaries, not back on itself.

Trading was strong, but very few international trades completed.

Many people did not know anything past their own religion, state, church or even village.

The only thing that saved the entire world from massive outbreaks of disease - was isolation.

Physics was still a theory, with similar believing it as the gospel. Moores law, Einsteins theory of relativity, string theory, convergent theory.....hell even Maslows theory were not even glimmers in a persons eye.

So it was very easy for him to claim - "The most likely answer - is the simplest"

He was competing against things like voodoo and witchcraft.
If you told him there was a 100 year war between 2 nations - he would have asked us if we had read the stories about King Arthur also.

People are complicated. Solutions/Theory's thus are equally as complicated. Therefore - and answer sometimes can be complicated.
The razor does not cut like it used to.

Post of the year.

[Akzle]

*drunk Post of the year.

f.i.f.y. .

[Banditbandit]

Still not one muslim group here in NZ or anywhere else has come out and decried what is happening in their religions name in their adopted countries! Speaks volumes to me.

You are so full of shit sometimes ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3osO1NkwD0

And heaps more here

http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php

Including this one ...

http://www.angelfire.com/biz2/FIANZWEB16/PressRelease1.html

It's there IF you go and look - but you seem to think making sweeping negative (and wrong) generalizations is OK ...

And there have been Moslems identifying in the New Zealand censuses since 1874 ... 140 years .. can you point to ONE political act on their part which MIGHT POSSIBLY count as terrorism or against the country ??? (We've even had Moslem MPS ...)

[Banditbandit]

Katman, yeah, but their tendency for violence goes back more than several decades, refer to their lawbook for example.

Their books of Law were certainly written after the Bible - which western laws are based on ... or have you forgotten the Middle Eastern origins of Christianity ???

(And have you ever actually read any of their law books?)

[avgas]

Op's forgot ol short arse bone a part and yes you are right if we all simply listened without thought we'd come to believe anything.
Why is there a french concession in Shanghai?

Also how did the states get united against the British?

However if you want more recent - see North Africa......

[husaberg]

Why is there a french concession in Shanghai?

Also how did the states get united against the British?

However if you want more recent - see North Africa......

Yeah but the French men can't even get their women to shave their armpits.........

[avgas]

Yeah but the French men can't even get their women to shave their armpits.........
We let them vote we were such pussies. Now they are asking for a quota system for high level positions, so that women have to have the good jobs. :corn:

[oneofsix]

Yeah but the French men can't even get their women to shave their armpits.........

or to look at it another way, French woman wont be push around by American business propaganda. The Germans don't either BTW.