Fastoyz on Trademe, anyone got experience with them?

[NightRaven]

Hi everyone,

a few months ago while I was bike hunting, I saw a trademe account by the name of Fastoyz which happen to have too good to be true deals for the bikes they have I.e. CBR600RR for under 6K, they also did mention how most of their bikes are only with 1 key and seem to have been mostly trashed bikes that has been fixed.

Now my question is: has anyone ever dealt with them and whether if they are legitimate? good idea to buy bikes with them knowing there's only one key, and the too good to be true pricing? (implications may include the paranoia of your bike disappearing in the morning) Are the bikes they repaired good to go?

I have been so tempted to buy bikes from them (a bit too late now since the listing they have are not bikes anymore) but held myself back due to paranoia and uncertainty and suspicion of the above factors.


Should have went here and asked though.

Can provide link if that's all good in this forum.

Thanks! :)

[Madness]

The seller is a member of this forum and a friend of a friend. I haven't dealt with them personally but would have no hesitation doing so.

[NightRaven]

Hmm, Ok. I might give them a shot next time around. Looking for a step up from my CBR250R as I now have a full licence (woo). Not gonna go crazy on a liter bike though.

Bad timing to shop I guess :(

[Ribit]

The bikes are crashed insurance company write offs that i guess were deemed uneconomical to repair to 'before crash' standard.
To me that means fast toys can buy the write off, do some repairs and still make a profit where the buyer takes the risk of his work.

[mhm]

i brought a bike off a work mate that hed brought from that guy. It was ruff but it was legal. After i got it i serviced and got fairings repaired and bike did well till i sold it. As said he buys write offs and fixes them to wofable standard,not before crash standard

[SVboy]

Iirc, I tried to buy a bike off him, both on here and trade me. The rude Cnut never as much as acknowledged my messages, nor replied. Not a reflection on his bikes, more his customer service.

[nzspokes]

I tried to buy my crashed bike back off him but got ignored then he told me he had sold it. Then I asked him to pass my details on to the new owner as I had the manuals, spare keys and the history of the bike. But got nothing back.

[BlackSheepLogic]

It's a risk to buy a insurance write-off, Bikes often get written-off for cosmetic damage but you don't know for sure since you don't see the before only the after or really know the quality of work. Also, the history will put buyer's off when you come to sell it.

[mhm]

It's a risk to buy a insurance write-off, Bikes often get written-off for cosmetic damage but you don't know for sure since you don't see the before only the after or really know the quality of work. Also, the history will put buyer's off when you come to sell it.

the above is very true but don't be completely put off buying a write off. I recently had my bike written off due to repair costs being too high to be economical. However before it was written off i had it checked over buy the crash repair certifier who was very helpful and confirmed there was no chassis damage so i was happy to buy back and repair the bike. 3 weeks later it was back on the road. The reason i bring it up is that to pass the bike there are quite a few specs ( measurement ) that the bike must meet as well as a visual inspection of welds etc depending on crash type. Therefor to purchase a write off bike you can be almost 99% assured that apart from cosmetic imperfections the bike should in a road worthy condition. I say 99% because theres always 1% that cheat the system and youll never completely be able to avoid them

[yevjenko]

the above is very true but don't be completely put off buying a write off. I recently had my bike written off due to repair costs being too high to be economical. However before it was written off i had it checked over buy the crash repair certifier who was very helpful and confirmed there was no chassis damage so i was happy to buy back and repair the bike. 3 weeks later it was back on the road. The reason i bring it up is that to pass the bike there are quite a few specs ( measurement ) that the bike must meet as well as a visual inspection of welds etc depending on crash type. Therefor to purchase a write off bike you can be almost 99% assured that apart from cosmetic imperfections the bike should in a road worthy condition. I say 99% because theres always 1% that cheat the system and youll never completely be able to avoid them
I couldn't agree with this more.

Don't forget that
1 to put a written off bike back on the road it has to be re certified. This is much more intensive checking than just a wof
2 a write off is purely based on the cost to repair, so if your plastic fairings are expensive then that could write off the bike - there may not be any chassis or mechanical damage at all

[Akzle]

Iirc, I tried to buy a bike off him, both on here and trade me. The rude Cnut never as much as acknowledged my messages, nor replied. Not a reflection on his bikes, more his customer service.

hahahaha.


You.

[SVboy]

hahahaha.


You.

Now don't you go get excited dear. Don't forget I was trying to buy (another) motorbike. We both know that's not something you are ever likely to experience!

[Ribit]

the above is very true but don't be completely put off buying a write off. I recently had my bike written off due to repair costs being too high to be economical. However before it was written off i had it checked over buy the crash repair certifier who was very helpful and confirmed there was no chassis damage so i was happy to buy back and repair the bike. 3 weeks later it was back on the road. The reason i bring it up is that to pass the bike there are quite a few specs ( measurement ) that the bike must meet as well as a visual inspection of welds etc depending on crash type. Therefor to purchase a write off bike you can be almost 99% assured that apart from cosmetic imperfections the bike should in a road worthy condition. I say 99% because theres always 1% that cheat the system and youll never completely be able to avoid them

If the rego is still live when the bike is sold from being crashed, does it have to be recerted to get back on the road? Would this be a way around getting a dodgy bike (vehicle) back on the road?

[NightRaven]

I think I get what you folks are trying to point out here:

They are basically ROAD WORTHY, but may or may not have the creature comfort it once used to have? I'll admit though the ownership history will turn off prospective buyers sadly... then again you bought for what it's worth anyway! At least good to know they're unlikely to be either death traps or heartbreak waiting to happen.


Still though, its sad now there's nothing left on sale from the dude :( would love to get a good deal or something.

Ah well plenty of fish swimming in the sea.

Thanks though everyone! :)

[FJRider]

I think I get what you folks are trying to point out here:

I doubt you really do ... :laugh:


They are basically ROAD WORTHY, but may or may not have the creature comfort it once used to have? I'll admit though the ownership history will turn off prospective buyers sadly... then again you bought for what it's worth anyway! At least good to know they're unlikely to be either death traps or heartbreak waiting to happen.

Some refuse to buy second hand helmets regardless or their condition ... yet ... get bent bits straightened ... ??? :scratch:


Still though, its sad now there's nothing left on sale from the dude :( would love to get a good deal or something.

or not ... :doh:


Ah well plenty of fish swimming in the sea.

Thanks though everyone! :)

[yevjenko]

Some refuse to buy second hand helmets regardless or their condition ... yet ... get bent bits straightened ... ??? :scratch:


And some people are deliberately obtuse

[FJRider]

And some people are deliberately obtuse

Less risk of death by bring Obtuse ... than there is by getting bent bits straightened ... <_<

Hint ... Google Metallurgy ...

[yevjenko]

If the rego is still live when the bike is sold from being crashed, does it have to be recerted to get back on the road? Would this be a way around getting a dodgy bike (vehicle) back on the road?
Correct, however if the rego is still live the vehicle hasn't been statutorily written off and therefore the bike can't be dodgy from an insurance / crash damage point of view.

Don't forget that in this case the vehicle is still liable for wof checks and it is always a good idea to get any vehicle you are thinking of buying checked out by somebody who knows what they are doing

[yevjenko]

Less risk of death by bring Obtuse ... than there is by getting bent bits straightened ... <_<

Hint ... Google Metallurgy ...
Also Google structural engineer and one time use helmets while you're at it

[FJRider]

Correct, however if the rego is still live the vehicle hasn't been statutorily written off and therefore the bike can't be dodgy from an insurance / crash damage point of view.

To be "Written off" ... the bike/vehicle needs to be insured (and and a claim made for repairs) at the time ...

No claim ... NOT possible to get it written off.

Thus ... a vehicle then just needs to pass a Warrant of Fitness check to obtain a Registration label. Totally legal ...


Don't forget that in this case the vehicle is still liable for wof checks and it is always a good idea to get any vehicle you are thinking of buying checked out by somebody who knows what they are doing

WOF checks are seldom to the standard of Re-certification ... what you don't know wont hurt you ... right .. :laugh:

[Akzle]

Thus ... a vehicle then just needs to pass a Warrant of Fitness check to obtain a Registration label.

i'll just let that one sink in.

[yevjenko]

To be "Written off" ... the bike/vehicle needs to be insured (and and a claim made for repairs) at the time ...

No claim ... NOT possible to get it written off.

Thus ... a vehicle then just needs to pass a Warrant of Fitness check to obtain a Registration label. Totally legal ...



WOF checks are seldom to the standard of Re-certification ... what you don't know wont hurt you ... right .. :laugh:

Wof checks are definitely not to the standard of a re-cert. No where near

[NightRaven]

In addition, from what I heard some WOF places are easy to pass than the other... Can always bring it to one that has their own "price" I guess?

[FJRider]

In addition, from what I heard some WOF places are easy to pass than the other... Can always bring it to one that has their own "price" I guess?

Authority to issue a Warrant of Fitness is given to individuals ... not a business. To lose that authority would amount to a loss of income for the business employing such individuals. (and possibly loss of employment to said individuals)

They check all things on the list ... but some are more stringent on their interpretation of regulations ... as they are written.

The WOF label only shows it was deemed safe by the tester at the time it was tested.

[yevjenko]

In addition, from what I heard some WOF places are easy to pass than the other... Can always bring it to one that has their own "price" I guess?
That's why you take it to someone who knows what they are doing to inspect it or take it for a warrant yourself

[Jizah]

I couldn't agree with this more.

2 a write off is purely based on the cost to repair, so if your plastic fairings are expensive then that could write off the bike - there may not be any chassis or mechanical damage at all

Yeah something similar happened to me when I crashed my bike. I basically just parked my bike against a roadside barrier, breaking fairing and scratching up lots of stuff. It was suggested that I leave a tiny scratch on my tank that could barely be seen as the cost of repairing that on top would most likely have had my bike written off.

[GrayWolf]

Yeah something similar happened to me when I crashed my bike. I basically just parked my bike against a roadside barrier, breaking fairing and scratching up lots of stuff. It was suggested that I leave a tiny scratch on my tank that could barely be seen as the cost of repairing that on top would most likely have had my bike written off.

So true,
I had an 'off' at 25kph almost 2 yrs ago, and slid into a muddy ditch... 'minimal' damage to bike, bar end, scratches on two downpipes, muffler cover (plastic) End rings, etc, etc.... ended up with over 8k in cost. If the bike had been a couple of years older, it probably would have been written off.
The slide didnt even bend the bars.

[biketimus_prime]

This guy's listings crack me up

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=4882176

[yevjenko]

One of the salvage auctions in Auckland always has good value descriptions in his auctions. I'll dig out his listings

[imdying]

This guy's listings crack me up

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=4882176

Ayieee... I thought you were supposed to use good looking birds to make people come and look at your auctions... I can only wonder what this guys intentions were?!? :blink:

[yevjenko]

Ayieee... I thought you were supposed to use good looking birds to make people come and look at your auctions... I can only wonder what this guys intentions were?!? :blink:
Maybe he doesn't want to sell the bikes...

Maybe he really wants to sell the missus (I'm guessing that's his missus otherwise why else would he put her on there)