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Fatt Max
17th October 2014, 22:04
The Motorcycle Action Group (MAG) are ramping up activities again and are planning a few events.
Just to be clear, I am not a member of MAG, I am not on the committee and I do not speak for them in any way shape or form. MAG only have a presence on Facebook however I did suggest that they cast their net wider to increase interest (ie, place on KB) however they suggested that I did it so, well, here is the info worded as per their Facebook page:
Park Up In Ponsonby
Saturday 18th October 2014
Meet at Z station Pt Chev, 8.00am
Hi people, MAG NZ are starting to take action again to stop discrimination towards motorcyclist, this 1st event is to get as many bikes as possible and park up on ponsonby's main street before it get busy and as we all know that the new ACC minister is based just around the corner so ponsonby is a good start,so 1 bike per 1 car park space, we shall do it legally by buying a parking ticket if needed. then we will sit with a coffee, breakfast or what ever takes your fancy and watch cars trying to park,
We shall meet up at Point Chev Z station, time 8am, I know its early but at least we can get there and park up before everything opens at 9.
PLEASE PLEASE try and invite everyone who you know has a motorcycle, the more bikes we have the more impact it will be!!
Help MAG NZ to help you motorcyclists
Thanks
MAG NZ
Meet The MAG Team
9th November 2014
Onehunga Social Club, 303 Onehunga Mall, Onehunga
MAG NZ would like all Presidents, Vice Presidents, Admins of all Motorcycle groups to join us sunday afternoon on the 9th November to meet our Team and to talk about what our plans are for the future, we also would like to hear from you and your ideas for us.
There is a licenced Bar (please be sensible and dont drink and drive or Ride) and Food will be provided by the MAG Team.
Hope to see you all there, let us unite and stop discrimination towards motorcyclist.
I'm just spreading the word folks. If you want to get in touch with them then you will need to check out their page on facebook.
Toodle Pip....
Ocean1
18th October 2014, 09:36
Park Up In Ponsonby
Saturday 18th October 2014
Meet at Z station Pt Chev, 8.00am
[I]Hi people, MAG NZ are starting to take action again to stop discrimination towards motorcyclist, this 1st event is to get as many bikes as possible and park up on ponsonby's main street before it get busy and as we all know that the new ACC minister is based just around the corner so ponsonby is a good start,so 1 bike per 1 car park space, we shall do it legally by buying a parking ticket if needed. then we will sit with a coffee, breakfast or what ever takes your fancy and watch cars trying to park..
At which point they will take a leaf from Wellington's book and ban bikes from using car parks.
Akzle
18th October 2014, 10:02
thank fuck. someone to piss and moan and not achieve anything, on my behalf.
-edit-
moaning aucklanders! what a fucking surprise... hopefully the power stays on so you can get your fucking latés.
-edit II-
facebook is 100% faggotry and anyone that limits themselves to it to communicate about anything of perceived importance deserves scorn and derision and a punt in the cunt.
2smokes
18th October 2014, 10:44
Just to make sure I've got a handle on this.
You want to stop discrimination towards motorcyclists by parking one bike per park in one of the busiest streets in one of the busiest areas of the country.
Yea that will work.:tugger:
oneofsix
18th October 2014, 11:15
Just to make sure I've got a handle on this.
You want to stop discrimination towards motorcyclists by parking one bike per park in one of the busiest streets in one of the busiest areas of the country.
Yea that will work.:tugger:
yep make them realise the advantage of having bikes parking on footpaths and other "waste" space, (footpaths only works when they park responsibly out of the way). Heard it worked will in Nelson.
In the middle of Wellington's anti-footpath parking push the amusing thing was hearing a Wellington based radio host moaning she couldn't park her SUV because a bike was in the park and why couldn't they park on the footpaths. WCC dropped the anti-footpath push shortly after.
Blackbird
18th October 2014, 11:18
Smart thinking :Punk: Piss off the motoring public who by and large aren't anti-bike, convert them to anti-bike and then what?
Don't think I want MAG speaking for me thanks <_<
buggerit
18th October 2014, 11:49
Make more sense to demonstrate how 50 individual vehicle users only require 10 car parks.
Voltaire
18th October 2014, 12:17
thank fuck. someone to piss and moan and not achieve anything, on my behalf.
-edit-
moaning aucklanders! what a fucking surprise... hopefully the power stays on so you can get your fucking latés.
-edit II-
facebook is 100% faggotry and anyone that limits themselves to it to communicate about anything of perceived importance deserves scorn and derision and a punt in the cunt.
OMG...I'm from Auckland, I could walk to so called 'Onehunga Social Club"
Hmmm....quality shed time/out for a ride/Hamilton Swap Meet Vs pointless meeting.... no contest:lol:
Why don't all the clubs claiming to represent motorcyclist just form one club and be done with it.
Would usually insert Peoples Front of Judea sketch here.....
Two T's in Latte :scratch:
Here is a link to MAG NZ on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/pages/Motorcycle-Action-Group-of-New-Zealand/154220427923527?ref=br_tf
exciting stuff
bogan
18th October 2014, 12:44
Who is MAG-NZ nowadays? as one of the people left with 'turning off the lights' of the last incarnation of it, I'm a little surprised and disappointed this is the first I'm hearing of a restart.
But perhaps on a more relevant matter, what's the issue atm? are bikers getting shafted more or is it a re-hash of old issues?
pritch
18th October 2014, 13:02
Twice I have been a participant in exercises such as this and while both were satisfying on a personal basis, both also achieved their objectives.
We can sit around and bitch on KB or people can do something to draw attention to their grievances. Even if this protest isn't successful on its own, it may be thereapeutic for the participants. If there is a good turnout don't forget to ring the newspaper/TV.
GrayWolf
18th October 2014, 14:00
Smart thinking :Punk: Piss off the motoring public who by and large aren't anti-bike, convert them to anti-bike and then what?
Don't think I want MAG speaking for me thanks <_<
I belonged to MAG in the UK many years ago (leg protectors etc) I withdrew my 'support' due to one of the National Council 'so called' Minority Lobbyist's, a 'gentleman' by the name of Ian Mutch. (He did a Column called 'Mutchie's meanderings' in a bike mag...
For a Man who was supposed to be a 'public/media front' for a minority group (motorcyclists). He in one of his columns went off on an 'anti gay' rant, which just happened to be a 'minority group' as such back then....
I didnt want that kind of mentality speaking for me either.
Oakie
18th October 2014, 14:02
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Would usually insert Peoples Front of Judea sketch here.....
Splitter ...
IkieBikie
18th October 2014, 14:38
s.
We can sit around and bitch on KB or people can do something to draw attention to their grievances.
Good call!!!!
Please Mr Government sir can you keeping spanking me I won't tell anyone and will keep taking as much of a spanking as you can give me!!
Ocean1
18th October 2014, 14:39
Smart thinking :Punk: Piss off the motoring public who by and large aren't anti-bike, convert them to anti-bike and then what?
Don't think I want MAG speaking for me thanks <_<
Oh I think a disruptive campaign highlighting the concerns of a minority are a great idea. I'd be a damned sight more disruptive than that, wall to wall bikes smack in the CBD Monday AM would be the least of it.
"We're being discriminated against" is the problem, all the rest of the road using public will hear is "Wah, wah." You need an explicit, specific and short message, delivered as unambiguously and as indiscreetly as possible.
In the case of Wgtn it would have to be based around the right to buy a car park the same as everyone else, and civil disobedience based around making as many car parks unavailable as possible would be entirely appropriate, easily understood, easily justified and easily sold.
nodrog
18th October 2014, 14:52
[QUOTE=Fatt Max;1130781767]..... MAG only have a presence on Facebook ......QUOTE]
so they are a Facebook action group then?
makes sense.
Voltaire
18th October 2014, 15:11
[QUOTE=Fatt Max;1130781767]..... MAG only have a presence on Facebook ......QUOTE]
so they are a Facebook action group then?
makes sense.
They could do with some likes
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Motorcycle-Action-Group-of-New-Zealand/154220427923527?sk=timeline
Can't wait till the 6:00 news about the havoc wrought in Ponsonby.....:tugger:
nodrog
18th October 2014, 15:19
They could do with some likes
or a poke.
TheDemonLord
18th October 2014, 15:30
Oh I think a disruptive campaign highlighting the concerns of a minority are a great idea. I'd be a damned sight more disruptive than that, wall to wall bikes smack in the CBD Monday AM would be the least of it.
"We're being discriminated against" is the problem, all the rest of the road using public will hear is "Wah, wah." You need an explicit, specific and short message, delivered as unambiguously and as indiscreetly as possible.
In the case of Wgtn it would have to be based around the right to buy a car park the same as everyone else, and civil disobedience based around making as many car parks unavailable as possible would be entirely appropriate, easily understood, easily justified and easily sold.
So a message of 'this is how the NZ public percieves us, when it is to their benefit (ie ACC levy)'
admenk
18th October 2014, 15:40
Yeah, let's bitch and moan to each other about how bad we have it as bikers / motorcyclists, and then when someone gets off their arse to try and do something about it, lets all bitch and moan about them from the safety of our keyboards....:facepalm:
nodrog
18th October 2014, 16:00
Yeah, let's bitch and moan to each other about how bad we have it as bikers / motorcyclists, and then when someone gets off their arse to try and do something about it, lets all bitch and moan about them from the safety of our keyboards....:facepalm:
good idea.
Akzle
18th October 2014, 17:06
good idea.
and proven just as effective
cheshirecat
18th October 2014, 17:50
if ones going to protest at least use a little imagination to get the general public onside
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2794312/advert-featuring-woman-s-breasts-causes-500-accidents-day-moscow-s-distracted-male-drivers.html
Mom
18th October 2014, 20:22
I think all you haters should stfu! Honestly. Some of us gave this shit a HUGE nudge a few years ago. We could have really achieved what we wanted to but got undone by the naysayers, and the vocal supporters who did nothing. Some of us got completely jaded by the lack of continued support for the cause that "we" all cared about. In the end it fell to a few to keep going. We got tired.
Good on whoever still has the energy to get stuck in again. Good luck guys!
caseye
18th October 2014, 20:34
Nothing changes I see.
Once were warriors has nothing on you guys.
Sit there behind your keyboards and bitch, but go out and actually do something, any fucking thing and Oh,no, um we don't want to get involved! Or worse, derided by those other keyboard warriors!
Many of those who have posted here have in the past put their support into one group or another,I too have put my actions and money where my mouth was and went along, did stuff and was proud of what we did achieve.
This time round I reluctantly declined to be actively involved, that won't stop me going out with MAG, BRONZ or any other group of people, in this case, people who ride and attempting through actions, words,or active disruption, to get things changed.
Yes the message needs to be simple, clear and concise.
Yes there needs to be a real and valid threat/perception of disaffectation.
Yes none of these groups ever get far here in NZ, simply put, because unless it affects you fuckers in your OWN back pocket you don't actually give enough of a fuck to get out and make some noise, ride, disrupt.
Once, we did it,some of those involved with this newly reestablished MAG, the old AAG, BRONZ and many other organisations gave their time, their money, their best efforts and their souls to make it work and by God it did!
You lot went to Welly, you actually scared the shit outta the pollies in there that day, so much so that they came out and spoke to us, they heard us and they were actually afraid that we might come back, without warning and making their's and the rest of Wellingtons motorists lives hell by disrupting their city, at will, without warning and at our leisure.
Na, to hard, we rolled over, the Pollies laughed all the way back inside and knew that motorcyclists were never, ever, going to be a threat to them again!
No Organisation simply arrives and is instantly capable of "doing things", they need dedicated people, they need actual support from other people, they need, skilled speakers, negotiators, money raising people, and most importantly people willing to get out and help them when they need it.
If you lazy, good for nothing, tight fisted, full of ideas and suggestions, fucks, don't want to do any of the above that's fine,but at least have the decency to let these people have their objectives put forward, perhaps even be asked what exactly those objectives are.
Shame on the lot of you, at least these guys and girls are willing to try again, who knows, maybe their ideas will strike a cord, maybe not, Christ, perhaps some of you might even actually inadvertently suggest something that might work for them.Hell, then what? you gunna get involved cause it was you're idea, thought not!
Every dog has it's day, MAG ain't dead, don't you pricks kick it before it even gets it's head back above the parapet.
As for the one bike, one car park .
Think about it, DUNDER HEADS.
We pay half again what a car driver does for rego.
is it too much to ask that we are able to use a single car park, using one car park for multiple bikes is a courtesy thing, something most of us have done since day one.
However bikes still get damaged when we do this and WHY the Fuck should we.
It is a start. It was and will once again be a visible symbol of MAG's presence.
I don't know what MAG NZ's intentions are , because I'm not involved, but when MAG call for people to come out and help them do something I agree with, I will ride.
If I don't I may say so, but I won't be hitting them over the head with a fucking cricket bat.
At least they are wiling to give it a go.
buggerit
18th October 2014, 20:42
Pissing off joe public on ponsonby road will achieve fuck all apart from ailienating bikers with the general public.
I would imagine if you could convince the general public that motorcyclists mean less congestion, more parks and quicker
commutes for everyone you would have some bargaining power with the powers that be and a large support base.
caseye
18th October 2014, 20:58
Pissing off joe public on ponsonby road will achieve fuck all apart from ailienating bikers with the general public.
I would imagine if you could convince the general public that motorcyclists mean less congestion, more parks and quicker
commutes for everyone you would have some bargaining power with the powers that be and a large support base.
Jeez! here we go again, OK. We pay more.
We are at greater risk, therefore we pay more.
We are often not seen, at greater risk, therefore we pay more. ACC said so!
Do you want to keep paying more and getting less?
Making motorists ( you know , car, truck ) drivers aware of a group of motorcyclists presence by denying them their usual park, does not and should not come under the heading of "pissing them off"
We as motorists have to obey the same rules they do, we pay more than them for that privilage and we have a perfect legal right to occupy a parking space.
If it pisses THEM off , great, perhaps when they've bleated at the motorcyclists ( not likely) they might go BLEAT at their local member of parliament.
Hey presto! we're back.
Simple, direct and to the point, message straight to the pollies.
Of course when all injustices have been settled and all motorcyclists have been paid out sums commensurate with the Maori treaty claims we can all go back to parking like sardines in one car park, couldn't we???
Bikemad
18th October 2014, 20:59
Pissing off joe public on ponsonby road will achieve fuck all apart from ailienating bikers with the general public.
I would imagine if you could convince the general public that motorcyclists mean less congestion, more parks and quicker
commutes for everyone you would have some bargaining power with the powers that be and a large support base.
in a nutshell
oneofsix
18th October 2014, 21:55
Pissing off joe public on ponsonby road will achieve fuck all apart from ailienating bikers with the general public.
I would imagine if you could convince the general public that motorcyclists mean less congestion, more parks and quicker
commutes for everyone you would have some bargaining power with the powers that be and a large support base.
in a nutshell
too right in a nutshell. Bitch and moan when someone suggests something but don't have any other useful ideas yourselves do you. Who's side are you on? Caseye has it more correct than ever of you.
buggerit
18th October 2014, 22:41
too right in a nutshell. Bitch and moan when someone suggests something but don't have any other useful ideas yourselves do you. Who's side are you on? Caseye has it more correct than ever of you.
Who"s side am I on?, common sense! , not some half arsed crusade that will do more damage than good.
Berries
18th October 2014, 23:04
too right in a nutshell. Bitch and moan when someone suggests something but don't have any other useful ideas yourselves do you. Who's side are you on?
That's a bit rough. I know from this thread that Wellington does not allow bikes to park in metered spaces, is it the same in Ponsonby? All I can see on the AT website is that "if parking in a pay and display area, you are required to display your receipt at all times." So this protest was intended to consist of bikes legally parking? If so, would anyone know it was a protest or just a morning flat white for the well heeled weekend rider? The only people who would get annoyed are the SUV drivers looking for a space and, we all have to face a fact of life here, they don't give a shit about us and after driving around the block three times to get the trim soya decaf for Tarquin probably give even less of a shit now.
I don't do Facebook, and I have no idea how many actual riders use KB, but a post on here the night before an 8am start is hardly going to work. From what Max said in the OP MAG didn't even want to post on here. Understandable in one way given the responses from some in the past but they have to get over that if they want some support.
And I am still left scratching my head as to what the described action was meant to achieve other than pissing off the locals?
If you want useful ideas you first have to tell us what the problem is that is to be addressed. Simple "discrimination" doesn't wash I'm afraid, and given that half the people in this thread think the protest would just antagonise people who are sitting on the fence it would seem that there is still some work to be done. Pissing off the public will achieve nothing good.
Big Dog
19th October 2014, 00:26
The couple of these I went to last time were effective in reaching those who were inconvenienced at least.
With mom on megafone and actual protesters.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Big Dog
19th October 2014, 00:29
Even most of those inconvenienced showed some support one people explained.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Akzle
19th October 2014, 06:00
I think all you haters should stfu!
funny thats how i feel about many 'protests'.
Blaming the naysayers for your failure to achieve anything is pretty dumb too.
Mike.Gayner
19th October 2014, 07:48
I was going to attend, then I remembered I don't give a fuck about the parking problems in Auckland and Wellington. Personally I never have trouble finding a parking spot in Tauranga when I need one.
nodrog
19th October 2014, 09:03
..... one people explained.
one people? big turnout then?
Big Dog
19th October 2014, 10:21
one people? big turnout then?
Lol. One were warriors.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
SVboy
19th October 2014, 13:51
[QUOTE=Akzle;1130781838]thank fuck. someone to piss and moan and not achieve anything, on my behalf.
Your behalf? I don't think MAG was set up to support northland beneficiaries who don't actually ride!
Flip
19th October 2014, 16:11
I belonged to MAG in the UK many years ago (leg protectors etc) I withdrew my 'support' due to one of the National Council 'so called' Minority Lobbyist's, a 'gentleman' by the name of Ian Mutch. (He did a Column called 'Mutchie's meanderings' in a bike mag...
For a Man who was supposed to be a 'public/media front' for a minority group (motorcyclists). He in one of his columns went off on an 'anti gay' rant, which just happened to be a 'minority group' as such back then....
I didnt want that kind of mentality speaking for me either.
Some of my best friends ride Hondas.
Seriously they do.
Ok some of them do.
Actually I don't know any Honda riders.
R650R
19th October 2014, 18:22
Car/Motorcycle parking spaces are a local authority issue, nothing to do with ACC levies or vehicle rego.
This forum is a place to debate/discuss ideas/news. You can disagree with something, its called rational discussion.
It would be a much better idea to organise a civilised meeting with appropriate local council officials. Have a plan showing which spaces/areas/footpaths would be suitable as bike only places, outline the benefits to them and local businesses and you might get somewhere.
A big protest inconveniencing the general public is just going to have a lot of angry ratepayers phoning the council on Monday to hate on bikers....
Swoop
19th October 2014, 18:54
Personally I never have trouble finding a parking spot in Tauranga when I need one.
Good for you!
Getting OUT of Tauranga, on the other hand, is a bastard of a job. Talk about weird traffic systems...:angry:
SuperMac
19th October 2014, 22:31
I belonged to MAG in the UK many years ago (leg protectors etc) I withdrew my 'support' due to one of the National Council 'so called' Minority Lobbyist's, a 'gentleman' by the name of Ian Mutch. (He did a Column called 'Mutchie's meanderings' in a bike mag...
For a Man who was supposed to be a 'public/media front' for a minority group (motorcyclists). He in one of his columns went off on an 'anti gay' rant, which just happened to be a 'minority group' as such back then....
Are you aware of the more recent MAG UK 'events'?
http://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=3856607
March 2014
A flavour:
Rather than accept the judgement and face a potential compensation claim. MAG (UK) Ltd has transferred all assets to The Motorcycle Action Group Ltd, in an attempt to place those assets beyond the reach of the claimants. Still MAG maintains it is happy with the morality of its position.
[From a now not-MAG local Group press release]
GrayWolf
20th October 2014, 07:44
Are you aware of the more recent MAG UK 'events'?
http://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=3856607
March 2014
A flavour:
Rather than accept the judgement and face a potential compensation claim. MAG (UK) Ltd has transferred all assets to The Motorcycle Action Group Ltd, in an attempt to place those assets beyond the reach of the claimants. Still MAG maintains it is happy with the morality of its position.
[From a now not-MAG local Group press release]
Yeh a couple of friends I keep contact with in the UK, kept me 'informed' on this... It's a 'heads up' to MAG(NZ) to not follow the same path. Sadly though, reality is, like myself (which I freely admit) most people dont want to get into the requirements of time, effort and lack of appreciation that comes with running an organisation. So inevitably it leaves these positions open to those who have a need to 'be seen' who frequently in reality have fragile ego's that cannot stand being challenged. I think the MAG(UK) scenario depicts this eloquently.
The other reality is (Kiwibiker a perfect example) the members are often at loggerheads over the way to approach ANY issue, revert to name calling etc, have bugger all direction and is nigh on impossible to get them off their arses to DO something.
My Gawd, its just like the real world (Govt) = National Organisation head office, Members = the plebeian masses who need 'tellling' whats best for them, by those who 'know'..... :chase:
SuperMac
20th October 2014, 09:38
A certain amount of deja-vu for me. Do you remember when in about 1993/4 the BMF was close to implosion, with uncivil war between factions? I was a MAG member too, and recall the glee of a county rep waving a MAG document around which suggested that MAG was best placed to take over.
However, as a BMF Rep too, I knew exactly what the background was so could highlight the fallacies.
Sadly, I doubt many local Groups understood the facts, only the from on high version :(
willytheekid
20th October 2014, 10:16
My Gawd, its just like the real world (Govt) = National Organisation head office, Members = the plebeian masses who need 'tellling' whats best for them, by those who 'know'..... :chase:
NAILED IT! :yes:
ps...If ANY of you MAG fuckers purposely blocked the public from parking in CHCH while "representing me" as a motorcyclists...I wouldn't hesitate to "assist" un-blocking said parks! -(Cos its a dumb idea! and a shit arse thing to do to others, especially the public!...and if thats the BEST idea MAG can come up with!...maybe its best that they just shut the fuck up when it comes to "representing motorcyclists")
Big Dave
20th October 2014, 11:06
What you need is another group.
rickstv
20th October 2014, 11:50
So what happened? Did anyone get photos of the event.
I didn't see anything on tv so don't don't know if it went ahead.:weird:
pritch
20th October 2014, 11:57
ps...I wouldn't hesitate to "assist" un-blocking said parks!
Interesting. Even the Police don't touch the bikes if they are legally parked. You would be unlawfully interfering with a motor vehicle and additionally be fully liable for any damage. Good luck with that. :whistle:
Voltaire
20th October 2014, 12:11
You can park in Auckland Council carparks, I do if I'm in town and there is is parking areas available on some streets.
Its mostly taken by scooter riders.
You can park in pay and display if you buy a ticket and display it, they suggest a rubber band :laugh:
https://at.govt.nz/driving-parking/motorcycles/
MAG, whoever they are can only claim to represent their members really, and by the look of their website and Facebook page its not many.
Why does NZ have so many splinter groups for everything?
Akzle
20th October 2014, 12:22
Why does NZ have so many splinter groups for everything?
no fucker voted akzle, that's why.
i'd force you to all be one group "motorcyclists" and i'd force that group of dopey fuckers ("drivers") to GTFO. except trucks, because trucks are big and awesome and have cool horns. except i'd ban truckies from being fat and/or wearing stubbies.
except former MAG members, who i would force into another group, called "jews due for a rocket ride".
and fat people.
willytheekid
20th October 2014, 12:25
Interesting. Even the Police don't touch the bikes if they are legally parked. You would be unlawfully interfering with a motor vehicle and additionally be fully liable for any damage. Good luck with that. :whistle:
Interesting indeed!...So if a fellow rider walked up and voiced there concerns over your actions, and explained that your "rally" is contributing NOTHING towards helping us as over charged motorcyclists, and infact your actions are just pissing the public off and possibly doing MORE harm to our cause...why would you NOT move your bike?
...unlike you to support stupid Pritch
ps..I don't touch or move other peoples bikes!:msn-wink:....thats just fucken rude!:laugh:
Hawk
20th October 2014, 12:48
I had sign that I used to put in my car when it was parked, "You could have parked here but ACC taxed my Motorcycle off the road". Time to get it out again.
buggerit
20th October 2014, 14:14
I had sign that I used to put in my car when it was parked, "You could have parked here but ACC taxed my Motorcycle off the road". Time to get it out again.
Perfect,gets the point across nicely without offending Joe Public and possibly gets them on our side.
What about, "You would have a faster trip if I was on a Motorbike":2thumbsup
pritch
20th October 2014, 14:44
...unlike you to support stupid Pritch
As I posted originally I have been involved in two similar protests.
The first many years ago in New Plymouth. This was waaay back before shop-'til-you-drop shopping hours, in the weekend the whole country was basically closed. Friday night was really busy. The local motor bicyclists had been using a certain amount of ummm poetic licence in parking their bikes downtown on Friday nights. The Police and Transport Dept decided to sort this out and issued tickets, threats of tickets, or instructions to move on.
After some discussion a protest was organised, by 7.00PM on the designated Friday night every parking space in the two central blocks of the main street held a bike. There were certainly a lot of disgruntled citizens ranting and moaning to the many officers by then in attendance, but the Police explained that as long as the bikes were legally parked there was nothing they could do.
The next week things went back to the former rather flexible(?) parking arrangements and officialdom took a much more relaxed view. Apparently the alternative held little appeal.
The second occasion was in central(ish) Wellington, there was (is?) a small carpark containing angled parking adjacent to a large Govt building. The carpark was originally intended for visitors, but staff who owned bikes would park on the lines separating the individual parks. Somebody "upstairs", no doubt wishing to make a name for himself, phoned the council and one day all of the bikes received a ticket, "encroaching on a parking space" or similar. Using rather more flamboyant gestures than were strictly necessary, in case I had an audience, I screwed the ticket up and threw it away. Remembering the effort in New Plymouth, the next morning I went to work early and parked diagonally across a carpark. If you are going to encroach on a parking space you might as well do a job of it. Another rider had the same idea and had got there before me and done the same thing. By 8.00AM the whole car park was full - of bikes. Never heard any more about bikes "encroaching on a parking space" Never heard any more about the ticket.
So within their admittedly limited objectives, both of these protests worked a treat and I regard them with a certain nostalgia. This probably results in me being more kindly disposed to the goings on in Auckland than I otherwise might be.
Katman
20th October 2014, 15:12
So inevitably it leaves these positions open to those who have a need to 'be seen' who frequently in reality have fragile ego's that cannot stand being challenged.
Yep, that's our Maha all right.
Scouse
20th October 2014, 16:24
Why don't you re-name your group to something like MFG
Maha
20th October 2014, 17:35
Yep, that's our Maha all right.
.....thankfully I have nothing at all to do with, whatever it is that is happening here. Fluffy dusters at dawn you cad!
FLUB
20th October 2014, 18:54
So if I park my car in a parking bay and buy a ticket it's ok, but if I park my bike in a bay and buy a ticket it's wrong?
willytheekid
20th October 2014, 19:20
As I posted originally I have been involved in two similar protests.
The first many years ago in New Plymouth. This was waaay back before shop-'til-you-drop shopping hours, in the weekend the whole country was basically closed. Friday night was really busy. The local motor bicyclists had been using a certain amount of ummm poetic licence in parking their bikes downtown on Friday nights. The Police and Transport Dept decided to sort this out and issued tickets, threats of tickets, or instructions to move on.
After some discussion a protest was organised, by 7.00PM on the designated Friday night every parking space in the two central blocks of the main street held a bike. There were certainly a lot of disgruntled citizens ranting and moaning to the many officers by then in attendance, but the Police explained that as long as the bikes were legally parked there was nothing they could do.
The next week things went back to the former rather flexible(?) parking arrangements and officialdom took a much more relaxed view. Apparently the alternative held little appeal.
The second occasion was in central(ish) Wellington, there was (is?) a small carpark containing angled parking adjacent to a large Govt building. The carpark was originally intended for visitors, but staff who owned bikes would park on the lines separating the individual parks. Somebody "upstairs", no doubt wishing to make a name for himself, phoned the council and one day all of the bikes received a ticket, "encroaching on a parking space" or similar. Using rather more flamboyant gestures than were strictly necessary, in case I had an audience, I screwed the ticket up and threw it away. Remembering the effort in New Plymouth, the next morning I went to work early and parked diagonally across a carpark. If you are going to encroach on a parking space you might as well do a job of it. Another rider had the same idea and had got there before me and done the same thing. By 8.00AM the whole car park was full - of bikes. Never heard any more about bikes "encroaching on a parking space" Never heard any more about the ticket.
So within their admittedly limited objectives, both of these protests worked a treat and I regard them with a certain nostalgia. This probably results in me being more kindly disposed to the goings on in Auckland than I otherwise might be.
:laugh::clap:
Good to hear positive story's from such actions.
...but I'm unsure if the same positive effects could come from this run mate
Still...I sure as shit wouldn't advise anyone try's it down here! :laugh:...between the potholes, detours and road cones, most drivers are currently rather...errr...aggressive at present :crazy:, and very LAST thing I would want anyone to do...is piss them off even MORE and direct there anger towards us motorcyclists!:blink: (Think my daily rush hour commute moves piss enough of them off as it is:laugh: :whistle:)
...thanks for sharing another point of view so well Pritch, reeee-spect! :D
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-EP85LKopfH4/UvvnBkd_OxI/AAAAAAAACdo/KDvps_721wM/s1600/imageRespect+s.jpg
Kickaha
20th October 2014, 19:21
ps...If ANY of you MAG fuckers purposely blocked the public from parking in CHCH while "representing me" as a motorcyclists...I wouldn't hesitate to "assist" un-blocking said parks! -(Cos its a dumb idea! and a shit arse thing to do to others, especially the public!...and if thats the BEST idea MAG can come up with!..
It's been done in Chch before
Voltaire
20th October 2014, 19:26
Auckland Traffic Wardens demonstrate how hard it is to find pay and display ticket on motorcycle.
http://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20120531&t=2&i=613535461&w=580&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=CBRE84U0B0400
willytheekid
20th October 2014, 19:29
It's been done in Chch before
:facepalm:...I HATE YOU!
I don't really.:laugh: :love:
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