New to sportsbike - Correct seating position?

[NightRaven]

Hi Guys, so I have recently acquired a 2008 Honda CBR600RR instead of the R6, and even though the 600RR is more friendly and easier to ride than the R6 I'm still trying to find out the "correct" riding position, so to not to fatique oneself so easily and get wrist pain.

From what I can pick up on the last thread I made is that I have been pushing down on the handlebars too much - how does one avoid doing this? going chicken wings/bending the elbows slightly and gripping the tank with the thighs?

I did try using my shoulder and back to support the body instead but then on roads with lots of stops it end up giving me one hell of a back pain instead - maybe theres something wrong with the way I sit on the bike as I was resting my body on the tank? (lol)

So yeah I am a total noob when it comes to the aggressive riding position but i'm pretty much wanting to figure out the right riding position. Can anyone give me a pointer for this sorry noob here? :weep:

Rather than speculating I'd rather ask the more experienced sportsbike rider here.

Previously I have been riding CBR250R most of the time.

Thanks in advance!

[Grubber]

Go do California Superbike school.
They will show you all you need to know.

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[Gremlin]

Yep, grip the tank with knees and thighs (also stuff like Stomp Grip is available) and support your body that way.

Most of us see the light and get a bike with a more comfortable riding position.

[Asher]

Google 'twist of the wrist 2' and have a watch

[Ender EnZed]

I doubt there's any useful verbal advice for you.

I mean, you kinda just need to relax into the position that suits for the situation. It'll be a different one at a stoplight, at 50km/h in traffic (this will never be comfortable) and at open road or motorway speeds.

I expect the best way to achieve this is to go for some big rides. Give yourself heaps of time and head for a far out point on the map. I won't tell you where, just pick somewhere that seems like a long way. Repeat until nothing changes.

[Ribit]

A lot of wrist pain can come from the clutch and brake levers being set at the wrong angle so your wrists are bent when you lean on your arms and the tendons have to work hard to support your weight and bend around your wrist as your pull on the levers.

Set the angle of the levers so your wrists are in line with your arms for cruising.

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[NightRaven]

I have ordered a stompgrip from Ebay, its true I suppose - I can't grip the damn tank because its too slippery! Did not expect it'd be really hard to grip the tank when its covered in plastic fairings.

Lever position is also an issue imo, the clutch was too hard and far away. Might order a pair of adjustable levers - they did wonder with my 250R although some adjustment is needed.

As for changing to other bike types, maybe in a couple of years if I do get bored of it. I'll probably consider test riding a few bikes out there.

Twist of the Wrist 2 - Watched it 3x already, 2x when I was on the 250 and 1x last week as soon as I got the issue.

I reckon I'll try out the stompgrips once they arrive and see how that goes altho I'm positive with the grip and lever it will help out a lot.

[Ender EnZed]

I have ordered a stompgrip from Ebay, its true I suppose - I can't grip the damn tank because its too slippery! Did not expect it'd be really hard to grip the tank when its covered in plastic fairings.

Lever position is also an issue imo, the clutch was too hard and far away. Might order a pair of adjustable levers - they did wonder with my 250R although some adjustment is needed.

As for changing to other bike types, maybe in a couple of years if I do get bored of it. I'll probably consider test riding a few bikes out there.

Twist of the Wrist 2 - Watched it 3x already, 2x when I was on the 250 and 1x last week as soon as I got the issue.

I reckon I'll try out the stompgrips once they arrive and see how that goes altho I'm positive with the grip and lever it will help out a lot.

Just ride the fucking thing.

Bitch about it when you actually know what it feels like.

[NightRaven]

Just ride the fucking thing.

Bitch about it when you actually know what it feels like.

Will take the bike out of town once the weather clears up :scooter:

[Maha]

Yep, grip the tank with knees and thighs (also stuff like Stomp Grip is available) and support your body that way.

Most of us see the light and get a bike with a more comfortable riding position.

Not the ''coolest'' option for some, but an ''educated'' option for others.

[nodrog]

keep your head down and look up with your eyes.

the amount of Muppets I see riding around with their chins up, arms outstretched is quite comedic.

try this

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/13/58/f2/1358f24f474250d5022cce19766ee1f7.jpg

[nzspokes]

Y

Most of us have got old and get a bike with a more comfortable riding position.

Fixxored for you.......:nya:

[AllanB]

You are overthinking this shit too much.


Get some kms under your belt

[mossy1200]

Being a Honda the designers would have assumed you were used to being bent over.

[caspernz]

If you're new to sportsbikes then Grubber has the right idea for starters.

Apart from a bit of training, just ride more clicks and your body will adapt to the riding position. By the time you've logged another 10,000 clicks or so you'll be wondering what the problem was. But set your levers up right, straight line pull forearms to the bars, and that will assist.

[FJRider]

Will take the bike out of town once the weather clears up :scooter:

The faster you go ... the less weight on your wrists. A head wind will take weight off your wrists too ...

Ride in the rain ... you'll be thinking of more important issues than sore wrists.

[Grubber]

I will add at this point.
One thing to start you off is to ride with your tips of feet on the footpegs and a slight pressure on them.
You will be surprised at how this can take the strain off wrists. Once again, Cakifornia Superbike will show you the rest.

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[Madness]

Correct Seating position?

On top of the seat's a good start. Did you ask this many questions when you started having sex or is that yet to come?

[f2dz]

Grip the tank with your legs, lean forward a bit so that your forearms are as parallel to the ground as possible whilst still being comfortable, engage your core a little so that you don't strain your back so much.

My wrists were sore at the start but I got used to it and tweaking your weight distribution whilist riding really helps sort that out.

Now I tend to get a sore back after riding for too long, but that comes with the riding position. I find that I can go an hour or so before needing to take a 5 mins break. A back protector can also help support your back a bit.

[bogan]

Tis a tricky business getting it set up right if you have dimensions or style outside of the norm for that bike. Bar/peg/seat/control position all come into it; things like moving footpegs can decrease pressure on the wrists...


On top of the seat's a good start. Did you ask this many questions when you started having sex or is that yet to come?

Tis a honda you know, probably couldn't talk with his mouth full :whistle:

[Maha]

You are overthinking this shit too much.


Get some kms under your belt

I saw Rossi riding side saddle earlier today.

[Banditbandit]

Hi Guys, so I have recently acquired a 2008 Honda CBR600RR instead of the R6, and even though the 600RR is more friendly and easier to ride than the R6 I'm still trying to find out the "correct" riding position, so to not to fatique oneself so easily and get wrist pain.

From what I can pick up on the last thread I made is that I have been pushing down on the handlebars too much - how does one avoid doing this? going chicken wings/bending the elbows slightly and gripping the tank with the thighs?

I did try using my shoulder and back to support the body instead but then on roads with lots of stops it end up giving me one hell of a back pain instead - maybe theres something wrong with the way I sit on the bike as I was resting my body on the tank? (lol)

So yeah I am a total noob when it comes to the aggressive riding position but i'm pretty much wanting to figure out the right riding position. Can anyone give me a pointer for this sorry noob here? :weep:

Rather than speculating I'd rather ask the more experienced sportsbike rider here.

Previously I have been riding CBR250R most of the time.

Thanks in advance!

Get some speed up . then the wind will hold you up ..

[Mushu]

I found the best way for me to learn to keep my weight of my hands was to practice riding with one hand, resting my left arm on the tank. You'll want to be careful picking where to do this if you choose to learn this way until you get comfortable with it as it can probably be quite dangerous.

Nobody told me to try this, I just happened to be following a certain KBer who is forced to ride one handed and noticed that it doesn't seem to effect his ability to control his bike so I tried doing it and now I don't have any problem at all riding a sport bike for hours, can spend entire days riding my old R6 with only stopping for fuel, by theend of it my arms aren't really tired at all but my thighs would be killing me.

[BlackSheepLogic]

Like others have said, time on the bike. I have made some changes to my bike (Helibars, changed the foam in the seat) but just extending the time I ride really helped the most. I started out doing 4 hour rides and worked up from there. I been on the bike for 12 hours with only a couple of small breaks, just work up to it.

Leavers, I have ordered a set of more adjustable leavers, but thats more to do with a old hand injury. It could help if you do a lot of inner city/congested road rides.

I just fitted a throttle lock. if you are doing longer out of city rides this will help a lot.

[Ribit]

I just fitted a throttle lock. if you are doing longer out of city rides this will help a lot

I got one these from fastbikegear.

F'n love it. do lots of long rides and it lets the hand relax and just rest on this to maintain speed. Cheep too.

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[HenryDorsetCase]

Arse down.
Facing forward.
Feet on peggy things.
Hands on stick things.


GO!

[willytheekid]

Arse down.
Facing forward.
Feet on peggy things.
Hands on stick things.


...GO!

DAAAAMMIT!!!

http://www.signsfunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/come-to-me.jpg

...I gotta stop skipping steps :facepalm:

[SPman]

Arse down.
Facing forward.
Feet on peggy things.
Hands on stick things.


GO!

What he said.
You had an R6 - I don't see a CBR600 would be much different.
Angle of clipons is important - Bimotas are a bastard for this - The Tesi almost killed my wrists after 200m!

[Paul in NZ]

When I first got the ancient LeMans I found the clip ons and rear sets and rock hard seat 'difficult'...

An aussie mate advised me. Yes, you can fit higher bars which will take some weight off the wrists but then your back will hurt so std foot rests off the tourer will relieve the hips slightly. Putting softer springs in the carbs helps too. Now you can do more miles and your bum will hurt. The seat is more difficult but a new softer one can be purchased...

But stand back and look at that lovely Italian classic sports bike.... It says LeMans on the side - its a feckin mans bike mate - it even says so on the side so take a concrete pill and just ride the bloody thing....

[Katman]

try this


You hot.

:love:

[nodrog]

You hot.

:love:

Wanna root?

[bsasuper]

keep your head down and look up with your eyes.

the amount of Muppets I see riding around with their chins up, arms outstretched is quite comedic.



And the number of riders (not muppets as I don't assume) riding around moto gp style would make you giggle too?

Ride how you feel comfortable.

[nodrog]

And the number of riders (not muppets as I don't assume) riding around moto gp style would make you giggle too?

Ride how you feel comfortable.

Exactly, and if you feel comfortable riding around like and an out of control tard that's fine too

[nzspokes]

With those bikes you have to lie down on the tank when riding to avoid wrist pain and I hope you are aware this can reduce your periferal vision which in my opinion makes these bikes dangerous for the road.

Few wines tonight then?

[Coldrider]

With those bikes you have to lie down on the tank when riding to avoid wrist pain and I hope you are aware this can reduce your periferal vision which in my opinion makes these bikes dangerous for the road.

There's several of those in my garage so I am dead man walking.

[skippa1]

With those bikes you have to lie down on the tank when riding to avoid wrist pain and I hope you are aware this can reduce your periferal vision which in my opinion makes these bikes dangerous for the road.
Fuck mate, you need to give up motorcycles and drinking.....in that order

[nzspokes]

So you think there is no loss of periferal vision when riding a sports bike?

Bit early for the wine isnt it?

Its peripheral.

[Coldrider]

So you think there is no loss of periferal vision when riding a sports bike?One of my rides has a special indent in the tank for the helmet to snuggle into, so no, only when I have too many cheap wines.

[skippa1]

So you think there is no loss of periferal vision when riding a sports bike?
No, I think your queer riding style indicates you know fuck all about riding a motorcycle and you post on forums when you're drunk

[Grubber]

With those bikes you have to lie down on the tank when riding to avoid wrist pain and I hope you are aware this can reduce your periferal vision which in my opinion makes these bikes dangerous for the road.

You are seriously such a plonker...
Lay on tank to avoid wrist pain????
WRONG!
No peripheral vision????
WRONG AGAIN!
If you new anything about how to ride bikes in general you would know that was all shit!

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[Vinz0r]

I considered putting cassina on ignore, but I've come to the conclusion that it must be Akzle on another account trying to wind people up.
Some of the things he/she says..
Nobody can be that stupid.

[bogan]

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photogallerys/2010-victory-motorcycles-first-look-13.jpg

Not sure I'm doing it right, wrist pain continues :tugger:

[FJRider]

.. Nobody can be that stupid.

Yes ... they most certainly CAN ..

[nzspokes]

I am not saying any motorcycle just sports bikes limit peripheral vision if you don't want to get sore wrists. I bet if poster one was to try a bike with an upright seating/bars position their sore wrist problem would be gone.

Or if they had some core fitness the problem would go away.

I guess you have never ridden one.

[bogan]

Read my edited comment that I have ridden one so have experienced the same sore wrist problem when trying to get some peripheral vision like poster 1.

Then you were doing it wrong, again. Perhaps if you were more aware what peripheral vision was, canines everywhere could breath a sigh of relief.

[FJRider]

I bet if poster one was to try a bike with an upright seating/bars position their sore wrist problem would be gone.

The limp wristed will always have sore wrists ... whatever style of bikes they choose to ride ...

To them ... take cement pills ... and harden the fuck up ...

[skippa1]

Read my edited comment that I have ridden one so have experienced the same sore wrist problem when trying to get some peripheral vision like poster 1.
The way you wank on you're wrists should be like steel....still, accounts for the blindness

[Mushu]

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/photogallerys/2010-victory-motorcycles-first-look-13.jpg

Not sure I'm doing it right, wrist pain continues :tugger:


Must be an improvement, now only 1 wrist hurts:p



I am not saying any motorcycle just sports bikes limit peripheral vision if you don't want to get sore wrists. I bet if poster one was to try a bike with an upright seating/bars position their sore wrist problem would be gone. I have test ridden one by the way to have the opinion I have.

As on any bike it is your helmet that restricts peripheral vision otherwise no part of the bike is in the way so I cant see how it makes a difference to vision.

It is more difficult to turn your head past a certain point but it is by no means hard and by the time you sit right up on a sports bike its no harder at all than any other bike I've ridden.

You may have hidden a sports bike once or twice but you have obviously never had the chance to get used to riding one.

[haydes55]

Peripheral vision on a sportsbike is redundant. Ride fast enough that nothing can come at you from behind. All you need to worry about is what's in front and slightly to each side of you.

[Madness]

Here we go again. :facepalm:

I find that stuffing a 175gm bag of Iams Kibble Pieces under each armpit improves my peripheral vision no end, especially when riding really fast but safe.

[Grubber]

In order for me to have good peripheral vision I get sore wrists as I have to adjust my riding position but to eliminate the sore wrist problem I have to adjust my riding position again which results in a loss of peripheral vision. I look forward to seeing any response from poster 1 to see if they find a loss of peripheral vision when adjusting their riding position to eliminate their sore wrist problem. There must be a lot of motorcyclists out there who find a sports bike riding position uncomfortable otherwise all motorcycles would be made with a sports bike riding position would they not?

They are just awesome to ride with no pain in wrists and a ton of peripheral vision....AS LONG AS YOU LEARN TO RIDE THEM PROPERLY YA DICK!
That part may be a little out of your reach by the sounds of it.

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[nzspokes]

In order for me to have good peripheral vision I get sore wrists as I have to adjust my riding position but to eliminate the sore wrist problem I have to adjust my riding position again which results in a loss of peripheral vision. I look forward to seeing any response from poster 1 to see if they find a loss of peripheral vision when adjusting their riding position to eliminate their sore wrist problem. There must be a lot of motorcyclists out there who find a sports bike riding position uncomfortable otherwise all motorcycles would be made with a sports bike riding position would they not?

Have you actually ever ridden a motorcycle?

[FJRider]

In order for me to have good peripheral vision I get sore wrists as I have to adjust my riding position but to eliminate the sore wrist problem I have to adjust my riding position again which results in a loss of peripheral vision.

You have NO idea WHAT peripheral vision IS ... do you ... ??? :facepalm:

It is the ability to see objects and movement outside of the direct line of vision (ie: to your immediate left and right). Regardless of what position your head is in ... the amount of peripheral vision you have ... will NOT change. :no:

Peripheral vision is lost when you get tunnel vision. That is when you concentrate on a focal point ahead of you. The faster you go ... the greater risk of tunnel vision. Thus then ... the loss of peripheral vision has NOTHING whatsoever to do with your riding position.

[bogan]

Have you actually ever ridden a motorcycle?

Does 'over a dog' count?

[FJRider]

Peripheral vision on a sportsbike is redundant. Ride fast enough that nothing can come at you from behind. All you need to worry about is what's in front and slightly to each side of you.

Totally agree .. and as such ... I have removed my mirrors as they became redundant ....

[haydes55]

Totally agree .. and as such ... I have removed my mirrors as they became redundant ....


Exactly! You understand me! I've unplugged my tail light as well. Pointless, no one can catch up to me so no one would rear end me.

I've clocked motorcycling.

[NightRaven]

You have NO idea WHAT peripheral vision IS ... do you ... ??? :facepalm:

It is the ability to see objects and movement outside of the direct line of vision (ie: to your immediate left and right). Regardless of what position your head is in ... the amount of peripheral vision you have ... will NOT change. :no:

Peripheral vision is lost when you get tunnel vision. That is when you concentrate on a focal point ahead of you. The faster you go ... the greater risk of tunnel vision. Thus then ... the loss of peripheral vision has NOTHING whatsoever to do with your riding position.

Actually I think I do feel I fixate myself to oncoming cars and corners a lot more with this bike (CBR600RR) compared to the CBR250R I had. I dunno if that is an effect the more forward leaning seating position has, bike has more power/loss of focus, fatigue, or maybe I am simply just not experienced enough on the bike. one thing for sure though: Target fixation is a bitch.

yes wind does help a lot to feel more comfortable, the bike is naturally more comfortable to be ridden on the highway/high speeds.

I have last ridden for 3 hours straight on the bike and yeah I do feel pretty fatigued, kinda got me off guard.

So far wrist pain is mostly gone, its still there but take it off the throttle for 20 seconds/one stoplight and its all good again! I have however learned to grip on the tank better than last time. Leather pants works wonders until I get my stompgrips (God damn it eBay).

However now I get hip pain if its not for wrist or back pain wtf. But at least I can ride for roughly 60% of the tank straight.


Btw I only have test ridden the R6, and now own a 07 CBR600RR when it comes to supersports.

Tempted to give those Riser bars a try, but I heard they can interfere with the controls and even cause degradation on turning performance - which is pretty unfavorable.

comes to worst I might just swap over to a naked sports bike or a more upright seating bike, at the end of the day I figure that I just wanna enjoy my ride and not deal with the pains too much.

[avimistry]

Hi Guys, so I have recently acquired a 2008 Honda CBR600RR instead of the R6, and even though the 600RR is more friendly and easier to ride than the R6 I'm still trying to find out the "correct" riding position, so to not to fatique oneself so easily and get wrist pain.

From what I can pick up on the last thread I made is that I have been pushing down on the handlebars too much - how does one avoid doing this? going chicken wings/bending the elbows slightly and gripping the tank with the thighs?

I did try using my shoulder and back to support the body instead but then on roads with lots of stops it end up giving me one hell of a back pain instead - maybe theres something wrong with the way I sit on the bike as I was resting my body on the tank? (lol)

So yeah I am a total noob when it comes to the aggressive riding position but i'm pretty much wanting to figure out the right riding position. Can anyone give me a pointer for this sorry noob here? :weep:

Rather than speculating I'd rather ask the more experienced sportsbike rider here.

Previously I have been riding CBR250R most of the time.

Thanks in advance!

Coming late to the party here.. and probably repeating what others have said.

My advice, stop overthinking. Relaxing is half, if not most, of the battle won. Also:

-use your thighs to support yourself
-light on the handlebars (don't grip them with a fist, just lightly lay your palms on them with thumbs around)
-keep elbows in their natural (bent) position
-shoulders/traps down
-and lastly, tighten your core (the hardest of the lot)

I know all this is easier said than done as I'm too just figuring this out. Found this online, 305419. Written for cyclist but applicable to motorcyclists as well (IMO).

[madbikeboy]

With those bikes you have to lie down on the tank when riding to avoid wrist pain and I hope you are aware this can reduce your periferal vision which in my opinion makes these bikes dangerous for the road.


Are you a troll? Because this can't honestly be your opinion. Also, suggest you buy a dictionary. And then find someone who can read the letters and words out loud for you.

[Katman]

Are you a troll? Because this can't honestly be your opinion.

Mike, meet Cassina.

[madbikeboy]

Actually I think I do feel I fixate myself to oncoming cars and corners a lot more with this bike (CBR600RR) compared to the CBR250R I had. I dunno if that is an effect the more forward leaning seating position has, bike has more power/loss of focus, fatigue, or maybe I am simply just not experienced enough on the bike. one thing for sure though: Target fixation is a bitch.

yes wind does help a lot to feel more comfortable, the bike is naturally more comfortable to be ridden on the highway/high speeds.

I have last ridden for 3 hours straight on the bike and yeah I do feel pretty fatigued, kinda got me off guard.

So far wrist pain is mostly gone, its still there but take it off the throttle for 20 seconds/one stoplight and its all good again! I have however learned to grip on the tank better than last time. Leather pants works wonders until I get my stompgrips (God damn it eBay).

However now I get hip pain if its not for wrist or back pain wtf. But at least I can ride for roughly 60% of the tank straight.


Btw I only have test ridden the R6, and now own a 07 CBR600RR when it comes to supersports.

Tempted to give those Riser bars a try, but I heard they can interfere with the controls and even cause degradation on turning performance - which is pretty unfavorable.

comes to worst I might just swap over to a naked sports bike or a more upright seating bike, at the end of the day I figure that I just wanna enjoy my ride and not deal with the pains too much.


Get a swiss ball and do some core strength work. Sit ups help as well. Perhaps even yoga. Forget the riser bars.

What is more worrying is the idea that you're target fixating - where you look determines where you go. Find a senior mentor (or a good track day instructor) and work on drills to keep your focus correct, and your eyes moving between ahead, behind (mirrors), your escape routes etc. As you're cornering, you need to think about where you're looking, and how you're adjusting your line as a result. Track day instructors are awesome for tips and tricks - in Auckland the AMC runs fantastic skills sessions at places like Hampton Downs.

Never, ever, ever - fixate on an oncoming car, or something fixed that will hurt to hit at 100 clicks.

Finally, don't take any riding advice from morons like casino - they're literally clueless - find a good instructor or senior mentor here on KB, they have generally gone through a vetting process before they give advice.

[madbikeboy]

Mike, meet Cassina.

KATMAN! How are you??

[Katman]

How are you??

Still here.

But I'm universally loved these days.

[Reckless]

Try what the others have suggested. Relax would be the best one.
But Can't help but think the CBR600 is the wrong bike for your body shape (whatever that might be) and general usage?
These bikes are designed for you to be under the fairing in a race position so for general use its only wind support that aids that.
Seems like your attracted to the RR style. But may not be the best option for you. Don't try riding lying on the freakin tank FFS ???

I'm Guessing it's your second bike after the 250? Mate keep at it but there's plenty of bikes out there that will be just as fast for your experience and just as much fun.

[madbikeboy]

Still here.

But I'm universally loved these days.

You were loved back then as well. Good to see that you're doing well. I'm back in NZ for a few weeks, selling some muscle cars and getting the rest of my stuff shipped to a sunnier place than this. KiddieBiker hasn't changed.

[Banditbandit]

Still here.

But I'm universally loved these days.

Delusional as well ..

[BlackSheepLogic]

So far wrist pain is mostly gone, its still there but take it off the throttle for 20 seconds/one stoplight and its all good again! I have however learned to grip on the tank better than last time. Leather pants works wonders until I get my stompgrips (God damn it eBay).

However now I get hip pain if its not for wrist or back pain wtf. But at least I can ride for roughly 60% of the tank straight.


Bar risers may help. Even though one or two inches is not much it alters your position the bike and that can make a big difference. The RR is a never gong to be a good long distance bike because thats not it's focus.

Take a look at the 650F (could have been a good bike but I believe the ones here are 56hp not the 87hp versions) and the GSX650FU (heavy but otherwise a nice bike). Both these bikes have less aggressive riding positions but retain a sports feel. If your able to take them out for a test ride and you should be able to get a good feel how much of a difference a change in riding potion can make...

Helibars https://www.helibars.com/product/honda-cbr600rr-replacement-handlebars along with Vortex Adjustable Rear Sets will soften the riding position making the bike more comfort when riding for long periods of time.

Throttle locks will allow you to stretch out your hand when riding . Also the cramp your feeling may also be reduced with heavier bar end weights.

[haydes55]

Even though one or two inches is not much it alters your position

.


And it's not the size so much, It's how you use it.

[BlackSheepLogic]

And it's not the size so much, It's how you use it.

Your mummy lied to you.

[Brett]

You are overthinking this shit too much.


Get some kms under your belt

This man speaks the truth. To start with, get out there riding. In which case, staying ON THE SEAT is the correct riding position. Chances are, if you are off the seat, shit has gone sideways rather quickly.

[Brett]

You were loved back then as well. Good to see that you're doing well. I'm back in NZ for a few weeks, selling some muscle cars and getting the rest of my stuff shipped to a sunnier place than this. KiddieBiker hasn't changed.

I'm more interested in hearing about these muscle cars mate...tell more? or a TM link!

[Brett]

There is a saying with buying ski boots if they don't fit very well in the shop walk away but its surprising so many don't think that way when buying a bike considering they cost thousands more.

Your analogy is flawed...you don't buy a super sport bike as a cruiser do ya? One KNOWS that a SS is not going to be as comfy as a lounge chair on wheels or as competent off road as a dirt bike. But you CAN condition just fine to riding sports bikes. Shit...I used to do 600-800km rides all the time and be just fine...and I am 6ft3 so fitting your average super sport bike is not exactly something my Gigantor frame was made for.

[SVboy]

Your analogy is flawed...you don't buy a super sport bike as a cruiser do ya? One KNOWS that a SS is not going to be as comfy as a lounge chair on wheels or as competent off road as a dirt bike. But you CAN condition just fine to riding sports bikes. Shit...I used to do 600-800km rides all the time and be just fine...and I am 6ft3 so fitting your average super sport bike is not exactly something my Gigantor frame was made for.

Brett, Casino royale cannot be reasoned with. He is the KB ostrich!

[Brett]

I think that all other types of bike outsell sports bikes so there must be more people that can't be arsed "conditioning" themselves than do eh?

My opinion is that, in general, there are a lot of people who can't be arsed doing anything, hence so many fat bastards out there. The OP is one of US who ARE interested in sportsbikes. Therefore, don't be a pussy, condition your body properly to suit the machine and intended activity. It's like someone buying work boots and then complaining that they can't run in them. Well duh. If you want work boots, buy work boots. If you want runners, buy runners. The type of riding you want to do, dictates the type of bike you'll want. Don't then moan about it.

[Vinz0r]

Your analogy is flawed...you don't buy a super sport bike as a cruiser do ya? One KNOWS that a SS is not going to be as comfy as a lounge chair on wheels or as competent off road as a dirt bike. But you CAN condition just fine to riding sports bikes. Shit...I used to do 600-800km rides all the time and be just fine...and I am 6ft3 so fitting your average super sport bike is not exactly something my Gigantor frame was made for.


I think that all other types of bike outsell sports bikes so there must be more people that can't be arsed "conditioning" themselves than do eh?

Wow, you really missed the point on that one cassina. He's saying that some people LIKE to ride sports bikes, and consider the benefits of riding a high powered well handling machine worth the effort of keeping yourself in shape so that prolonged riding doesn't cause as much discomfort. Who cares if other types of bikes outsell sport bikes, different types of bikes for different types of people.

Y'know what, fuck it. I'm just going to put you on ignore. Nothing anyone tells you seem to be taken on board anyway, so what's the point?

[Brett]

The type of riding you want to do and ergonomic fit can be two separate things though which is what I felt the posters issue was. Lets hope he can "Condition" himself ok without feeling too uncomfortable or crashing eh!

Agreed there. You can have a "sporty" riding style on a bike that isn't necessarily a sportsbike. I do believe that there is a middle ground too with many bikes. Honda Hornet/CB range, Ducati Hypermotard, KTM SM range etc. being just a few. I personally am getting quite into the motard style bikes. Strongly considering a Ducati Hypermotard at the moment.

[haydes55]

Agreed there. You can have a "sporty" riding style on a bike that isn't necessarily a sportsbike. I do believe that there is a middle ground too with many bikes. Honda Hornet/CB range, Ducati Hypermotard, KTM SM range etc. being just a few. I personally am getting quite into the motard style bikes. Strongly considering a Ducati Hypermotard at the moment.


I had a sit on a hypermotard in the shop, it felt tiny and light. I bet they are a laugh to punt around some twisties! Not really much of a motard though, more like a slightly different monster. Check out the aprilia dorsoduro range.... The 1200 is nuts and the 750 looks ideal to live with.

[Brett]

Yes more and more sports bikes are coming out with straight bars but from what poster 1 gave the impression getting sore wrists his bike had lowered bars.

As a sportsbike, it would have "clip-on's".

[bogan]

As a sportsbike, it would have "clip-on's".

Probably just a cruiser with better handling and a better engine; I hear more an more of them are coming out these days :shit:

[DamianW]

Some good points raised on getting seat time / clicks under the belt, CSS training, and conditioning. On the latter I see it more about building core strength in the lower back and abdomen. Low impact resistance training on a cross-trainer 3-4 times a week has helped me on top of riding six days a week. To the OP, don't throw the towel in on the 600rr yet, just get out and ride it. Hope it works out.

Edit: +1 vote for tank grips. TechSpec's snakeskin pattern is a good alternative to Stompgrips.

[BlackSheepLogic]

+1 vote for tank grips. TechSpec's snakeskin pattern is a good alternative to Stompgrips.

+1 on the Stompgrips as well.

[breakaway]

Just reading this thread is making my elbows sore, fingers tingle and prostate shudder.

I was in the same position as the OP. Owned a bunch of different bikes but couldn't bring myself to sell my GSXR. None of the other 'touring' oriented bikes could even come close. Switching off the GSXR was like going from a scalpel to a blunt, rusty butter knife.

There are a few things you can do to improve things. One is bar risers. Two is gel seats. Three is adjust your position every few minutes (sit right up at the tank, then a few minutes later sit back a bit. Put your weight on the pegs for a bit and slightly lift your arse off the seat - that kind of stuff). When doing motorway riding, provided there is no hazard in doing so, you can rest your left arm on the tank and use that to briefly support your upper body and relax your back a bit.

When you're riding hard all the above won't matter because you'll be moving around plenty. It's really only a problem on straights/uneventful pieces of road.

After a few weeks/months of riding your body will adjust and it will get easier to do longer trips. But don't expect it to be as comfortable as riding a cruiser.

If you REALLY can't handle it, switch to a sports tourer or more upright bike (Z1000 etc). Or consider extreme options like fitting MX bars to the CBR.