Plastering course

[IsleOfSamTT]

Totally random here guys and gals......

I am looking and wanting to learn the craft of plastering. I have had an internet search for courses around Auckland but nothing really stood out or made sense.

Does anybody know of any night or part time courses that are available in the Auckland or indeed anywhere area? lol.

Is anybody a plasterer on here and wants a free labourer for a week or two so I can learn?

Any help would be appreciated

[Laava]

Worst spam ever!

[unstuck]

Go to a construction site and see if you can get some work as a solid plasterer. Good experience for fiberous plastering and you get paid while you learn.:niceone:

[skippa1]

Totally random here guys and gals......

I am looking and wanting to learn the craft of plastering. I have had an internet search for courses around Auckland but nothing really stood out or made sense.

Does anybody know of any night or part time courses that are available in the Auckland or indeed anywhere area? lol.

Is anybody a plasterer on here and wants a free labourer for a week or two so I can learn?

Any help would be appreciated
My place Friday nights, most Saturday's too, some Sunday's and any day during the week that ends with a "y"

[Akzle]

fuck plastering.

however. if you want some practice, come and build me a house.

[JimO]

Go to a construction site and see if you can get some work as a solid plasterer. Good experience for fiberous plastering and you get paid while you learn.:niceone:
nearest any one with no experience will get to solid plastering on a building site will be shoveling sand into a mixer

[unstuck]

nearest any one with no experience will get to solid plastering on a building site will be shoveling sand into a mixer

I got a job solid plastering for Mainzeal contracting when I was 18, walked in off the street up the top of Queenstreet and started straight away.No experience either.
Did it for almost a year too. :innocent:

[R650R]

Go to a construction site and see if you can get some work as a solid plasterer. Good experience for fiberous plastering and you get paid while you learn.:niceone:

What this guy says :)

Tradies just cant get people for manual labour job like these that involve getting dirty, dusty and physical etc...
Sure there's prob an art to it but its one of those learn on the job type things rather than do a course id say.

[nodrog]

Have any of you cunts actually tried to walk onto a building site these days, let alone walk in off the street and get a job?

[Maha]

An early boss of mine was watching me mix up some FLC (Floor Levelling Compound) and said '' the more you play with it the harder it gets'' :eek5:

[unstuck]

Have any of you cunts actually tried to walk onto a building site these days,

Only at night time lately.:shifty:

[AllanB]

Try the polytechnic - they run courses for that stuff in CHCH so Aucky should be similar?

[R650R]

Have any of you cunts actually tried to walk onto a building site these days

You say it like its difficult or them is some kind of implied security operations at these sites.

Its a piece of piss to enter any site, finding someone who speaks English and wants to sign a consignment note or communicate in ways outside of the blank stoner stare is another story...

[Swoop]

Have any of you cunts actually tried to walk onto a building site these days, let alone walk in off the street and get a job?
The osh faggots will bollock you for not having your "site unsafe" passport.:oi-grr:

[HenryDorsetCase]

The osh faggots will bollock you for not having your "site unsafe" passport.:oi-grr:

Worksafe NZ WILL shut your site down and issue instant fines and generally ruin your day. Thats why the paranoia these days. Its not the fines as such it is the bureaucracy and the fact they are all Judge Dredd.

You should have seen Victoria Street when they had that crane tip a few weeks back. I counted six Worksafe punters with clip boards etc at one point all standing and looking at the crane. Not, you know, fixing it or moving it. Just looking. one was taking photos.

[HenryDorsetCase]

You say it like its difficult or them is some kind of implied security operations at these sites.

Its a piece of piss to enter any site, finding someone who speaks English and wants to sign a consignment note or communicate in ways outside of the blank stoner stare is another story...

usually the stressed looking person in the site office. Look for a white hat. The hierarchy is like uniform colours in Star Trek. White for command (equals gold shirt) Yellow or blue for technical (blue shirt) Orange for grunts (red shirt).

[unstuck]

Yep, gone are the days you could sit in the concrete skip dangling off the end of the crane, 18 floors above Queen st having a spliff at lunchtime. :(

[AllanB]

I had to get a sitesafe pass and I spend 98% of my time in the office!

[Akzle]

i'm planning on getting plastered on friday arvo...
actually. make that thursday morning, if you need any pointers, just giz a call and i'll show you how it's done.






-edit-
make that wednesday arvo.

[Akzle]

I had to get a sitesafe pass and I spend 98% of my time in the office!
what a reckless cunt.

Yep, gone are the days you could sit in the concrete skip dangling off the end of the crane, 18 floors above Queen st having a spliff at lunchtime. :(
i wish i had a story to match that, but i don't.
unless you count 'moking up and abseiling down a 100ft cliff killing shit.

counted six Worksafe punters with clip boards etc at one point all standing and looking at the crane. Not, you know, fixing it or moving it. Just looking. one was taking photos.
and when it all goes tits up - it's the customer's fault. yay society!

[R650R]

You should have seen Victoria Street when they had that crane tip a few weeks back. I counted six Worksafe punters with clip boards etc at one point all standing and looking at the crane. Not, you know, fixing it or moving it. Just looking. one was taking photos.

Actually that's damn good, I wish the transport industry took the same approach instead of the secret squirrel approach of lets not learn from mistakes...
Saw a good construction Meme few weeks ago:
There are no new crane accidents, just new workers have accidents the same as the ones before them did. or something like that.
With a proper lift plan in place and good crew a crane should never tip over.

[R650R]

usually the stressed looking person in the site office. Look for a white hat. The hierarchy is like uniform colours in Star Trek. White for command (equals gold shirt) Yellow or blue for technical (blue shirt) Orange for grunts (red shirt).

Some of us pay less attention to star trek than what we do to builders fashion choices :)

[R650R]

Yep, gone are the days you could sit in the concrete skip dangling off the end of the crane, 18 floors above Queen st having a spliff at lunchtime. :(

Its all fun and games till someone zones out and forgets where they are... and splat.

I've had several workplace whoppers that could have been serious, all of them involved ignoring protocols. Funnily enough the most minor and virtual no injury resulted in a major manufacturer having their Auckland site shut down for 24hrs due to their yard being such a mess. Of course that had nothing to do with how I hurt myself though!
But I've fallen about 3.5m to concrete from the top of a b-train when during a brain fade moment I thought I had three hands and let go... lucky landed on my feet....
Half running/hurrying down a steel stairwell at grainmill, feel forwards took brunt of it on shin, lucky not to break leg.
Holding giant 100m loop of conduit so forklift could take another bite, it fell and ankle tapped me, throwing me into forklift mast, just bruises but could have been worse.

There's a few places I hated going to in Auckland, the forklift will stop loading if you come within 6m of him, funnily enough no one gets run over there.... :)

[HenryDorsetCase]

Some of us pay less attention to star trek than what we do to builders fashion choices :)

I watch a lot of Star Trek and I work in an office .. what else am I gonna think about ?

[HenryDorsetCase]

Actually that's damn good, I wish the transport industry took the same approach instead of the secret squirrel approach of lets not learn from mistakes...
Saw a good construction Meme few weeks ago:
There are no new crane accidents, just new workers have accidents the same as the ones before them did. or something like that.
With a proper lift plan in place and good crew a crane should never tip over.

I was told that they did not have the proper plan and cones and permissions to block off a lane in Victoria St so they could, you know, do it properly. So they tried to half arse it by not extending the stabilisers all the way and parking the crane on the footpath. First lift fine but second lift was just that leeeeedle bit further.... crane goes faceplant. Boom was stopped by the wee building in front of it otherwise driver would have been looking very sick indeed.

As it was the site was shut down for a day, so all the subs would be claiming from the head contractor, who would be passing them back to the glazing installer (Thermosash). Who will also be getting a good arse raping from Worksafe. The key question is who else apart from the driver gets a reaming. Plus of course Smith crane had two big MF cranes there to pick up the broken one. Ouchies. Luckily only financial. Bottom line is that at least five guys on the site could have been killed. driver, dogman, two up top installers, two dudes in a scissor lift five feet away, etc etc. Not to mention any of the hundred other guys on the site at any given moment.

I am all for it actually... the safety environment I mean. Because fuck people are dumb. Some people all the time, some people some of the time. And that shit can kill you.

[Swoop]

Its not the fines as such it is the bureaucracy


... Because fuck people are dumb. Some people all the time...

Ahh! I see you are dealing with the same bunch of public servant scum in Wellytown that I am.:mad::brick::brick::brick::brick::brick::brick: :brick::brick::brick:


Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach. Those who can't to that, inspect.
Now: Those who can't even do that, regulate from Wellytown.
:ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15::ar15:

[R650R]

The key question is who else apart from the driver gets a reaming. Plus of course Smith crane had two big MF cranes there to pick up the broken one. Ouchies. Luckily only financial. Bottom line is that at least five guys on the site could have been killed. driver, dogman, two up top installers, two dudes in a scissor lift five feet away, etc etc. Not to mention any of the hundred other guys on the site at any given moment.

I am all for it actually... the safety environment I mean. Because fuck people are dumb. Some people all the time, some people some of the time. And that shit can kill you.

This is the article I mentioned...
http://www.heavyliftnews.com/news/26-fatal-crane-incidents--accidents-are-accidental-and-could-not-be-foreseen-?cu=58

Under NZ law every person in the vicinity who witnesses a dangerous action (in that they know that's not the proper way to do it) and fails to intervene is liable.
There's a lot of guys that will sit back and laugh as a newbie forklift driver engineers a screw up... but that's all on cctv these days and they are all liable for $10k fines of someone is hurt.
Eg lift someone standing on tines instead of in a cage, dude on forks is liable, forklift driver liable, anyone watching is liable that doesn't say hey stop! All equally liable too.

BTW BBC Crane Gang is a great doco on youtube, some interesting mention of shock loads on there if a chain or strop slips on the load being lifted. Can tip a crane that is even well within its limits.

[unstuck]

Somebody needs to give these dudes a few lessons in crane management .:2thumbsup

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