2 questions: Learner curfew exemption and is it true?

[bingslayer]

Hey guys, with the sun shining, my wallet feeling too light and a mate with a new bike...its safe to say I have the bug and im back on 2 wheels :)

I have had my learners for over 3 years now (yeah I know, could have had my tl1000 by now) and I have been riding home from work at 2am. All was going well until i got pulled over one night and given a fine or 28 days compliance to get my restricted. How difficult is it to get an exeption from the curfew? I have no other need for it except for riding a 15min trip 5 nights a week at 2am. I cant find much info on the NZTA website about it.

Im booked to sit my restricted on the 28th Jan, and a mate says that if the instructer feels that the rider is good enough , he can let you sit your full on the same day....how true is this? Im no Rossi , but am pretty confident having grown up racing MX and many years on the road...just never been legal lol.

[Mike.Gayner]

Who cares, what are the odds of being pulled over again?

As for sitting your full on the same day, sounds like bullshit to me. Instructors don't have the authority to over-rule legislation - doesn't it have to be 12 months after getting your restricted before you can sit your full?

[Gremlin]

All was going well until i got pulled over one night and given a fine or 28 days compliance to get my restricted. How difficult is it to get an exeption from the curfew? I have no other need for it except for riding a 15min trip 5 nights a week at 2am. I cant find much info on the NZTA website about it.
There is a thread on here about exemptions... basically, you can apply for any exemption you like, and each one is individually assessed on it's merits. You're less likely to get one on a learners than restricted. A restricted licence carries the same curfew.


Im booked to sit my restricted on the 28th Jan, and a mate says that if the instructer feels that the rider is good enough , he can let you sit your full on the same day....how true is this?
Lovely story, completely false. The only way to shortcut the time is to do CBTA. He's not an instructor, he's a testing officer, and he can't contradict law.

There are also changes in the pipeline and being rolled out to force people to progress through the licence stages or lose the class of licence. Buck up and finish your licence.

edit: Search is a fantastic thing. Try it.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/161585-Hours-exemption-for-learner-license-for-work
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/153424-Learners-licence-dispensations

[R650R]

Who cares, what are the odds of being pulled over again?


Very high. Cops get really pissed at people that don't do what they are told.
Can guarantee he will be pulled again within a week if still riding, especially at that hour when bugger all traffic about.
Carry that evidence of you being booked in on the 28th and they might show some leniency if your not riding like an idiot at the time.

[skippa1]

a mate says that if the instructer feels that the rider is good enough , he can let you sit your full on the same day....how true is this? Im no Rossi
Your mate is making up a story ( commonly called lies)

and


you are clearly no Rossi, no need to point that out

[GTRMAN]

If you are doing a CBTA Asessment, once you have your restricted you are able to sit the full license assessment at any time, however you are not able to present that certificate to progress through to your full license until you have held your restricted for 12 months

[FJRider]

I have been riding home from work at 2am. All was going well until i got pulled over one night and given a fine or 28 days compliance to get my restricted. How difficult is it to get an exeption from the curfew? I have no other need for it except for riding a 15min trip 5 nights a week at 2am. I cant find much info on the NZTA website about it.



You really have only the two choices that I've highlighted. To get out of the fine .. get your restricted license (if you are allowed to) .... or ... be prepared to pay the fine ...

THEN apply for the exemption ... first things first.


Bikes with L plates at 2am are Cop bait. Especially if its registered owner is a learner rider. If the bikes registered owner is a fully licensed rider ... random plate checks will find nothing amiss. (hint)

[FJRider]

Exemptions ...

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/driver-licence-exemption/docs/dl4-exemption-application.pdf


If you are applying for an exemption to drive unsupervised
on a restricted licence between the hours of 10pm and 5am,
you must provide:


The reason you need to travel unsupervised outside the
normal hours of the restricted licence.


A letter from your employer confirming your start and/
or finish times and the length of your employment if the
request for an exemption is to travel to and from work.


Alternative travel methods that are available to you
(eg bus routes).


Any travel arrangements that existed prior to the
application for an exemption and why these arrangements
are no longer appropriate.


Addresses you wish to travel between (eg home address
and work address), the distance to be travelled and the
likely travel time.


Days and times you wish to travel (eg between 10pm and
11pm on Sundays and Mondays), and


If you are under 18 and reside with your parents or
guardians, you will need to provide a letter of authority
from them. If you are under 18 and do not reside with
your parents or guardians, you will need to include that
information in your application




We're unlikely to grant exemptions
...for

learner car driver licences (class 1)
learner motorcycle licences (class 6)
the first six months of your restricted licence
work purposes only (eg nanny, security, deliveries).

[BlackSheepLogic]

Use a old moped until you get your full license. They are cheap and you won't lose much if anything on it after a year of use.

[KiwiGeek]

Bit of a necro.

I find it ridiculous that I cannot get an exemption based on having been driving a car for 30+ years, day and night. The car is off the road at the moment so I am stuck using public transport. I cannot ride my bike at park at work if I plan to be out and won't be back home until after 10pm.

[mossy1200]

Bit of a necro.

I find it ridiculous that I cannot get an exemption based on having been driving a car for 30+ years, day and night. The car is off the road at the moment so I am stuck using public transport. I cannot ride my bike at park at work if I plan to be out and won't be back home until after 10pm.

30years with a car licence means you should have sat the additional 6 oral questions and got your bike licence started at the same time.
Not much you can do but get restricted and apply or get a moped and ride it on car licence to work.

[awayatc]

Even more ridiculous you didn't sit your test in 3 years.....

[KiwiGeek]

Even more ridiculous you didn't sit your test in 3 years.....
You mean me? I only started riding in September last year then spent November to mid Jan in a cast and then a moonboot so I don't know what this "3 years" thing you mention is all about.

[KiwiGeek]

30years with a car licence means you should have sat the additional 6 oral questions and got your bike licence started at the same time.
Not much you can do but get restricted and apply or get a moped and ride it on car licence to work.
I had to sit the full written test to get my learners at the AA in Auckland.

[Tazz]

Yeah it is redundant if you already have your full bike or car license and have to abide by it while getting the other.
For first license around and under a certain age it isn't a terrible idea though.

[breakaway]

Make an application for an exemption on the grounds that you have mentioned. Who knows, logic may prevail. The bank on it tho.

[f2dz]

I thought the same whilst on my learners and restricted but you just learn to deal with it.

I doubt the rule will change anytime soon. Worth asking for the exemption though - worst they can do is say no.

[TheDemonLord]

I know on my Learners (with L Plates and everything) a couple of times I got paged out to our Datacentre at silly-o-clock in the morning, didn't have any issues (but then didn't see any Police out either)

[KiwiGeek]

Spoke to Phil Goff at the Auckland Rescue Helicopter Trust charity ride last weekend about this and he reckoned speaking to my local MP. Unfortunately it is Maurice Williamson, so I am not going to hold my breath since there is no profit in it for his party so it is unlikely to change.

[jonnyk5614]

I've signed a few exemption forms for the checkout chicks at work. We close at 10pm.

The deal is, while on their restricted, they have to show that there isn't any public transport and that they don't live too far away. They get an exemption letter that gives them till 11 to take a direct route home.
The exemption expires the day they become eligible to take their full test though.

NZTA won't exempt you on your learners but shouldn't moan once you are on your restricted.

I'd say nice cop for telling you to do something you should have done years ago and not fining you!

[rastuscat]

Spoke to Phil Goff at the Auckland Rescue Helicopter Trust charity ride last weekend about this and he reckoned speaking to my local MP. Unfortunately it is Maurice Williamson, so I am not going to hold my breath since there is no profit in it for his party so it is unlikely to change.

Funny. The bureaucrats don't normally give a toss about which MP jumps up and down. It's the laws that get enforced, not the whims of the local MP.

[russd7]

30years with a car licence means you should have sat the additional 6 oral questions and got your bike licence started at the same time.
Not much you can do but get restricted and apply or get a moped and ride it on car licence to work.

ya might find he was meaning you should have done the 6 oral questions when you got ya car licence 30 yrs ago, bit harsh tho unless you were lucky enough to get a gorgeous female cop :devil2:

[Ripperjon]

Even more ridiculous you didn't sit your test in 3 years.....

Not necessarily. I didnt sit any road test for 6 years because i had a 250 that id bought from new and had no reason/desire to upsize.

When the need finally came along, i took the opportunity to combine it with a last-minute deal to Raro and went straight to the full.