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shafty
23rd November 2014, 13:00
Our local Cosse Club is lookng to put in a CCTV system for general security - before it needs one.
They have asked me for advice as years ago had some sales experience with professional systems but am now out of touch.
Are the more available And advanced DIY systems any good nowadays?
Any recommendations?
Or can anyone recommend a professional brand - remembering we are in the sticks and installation would be an expensive component of any investment
How about those cameras using wifi?
Many thanks in advance
Shafty
shafty
23rd November 2014, 13:32
The local Cossie Club is looking to put a CCTV system in - before it needs it and I'm after any advice on systems and brands please
Id naturally lean toward someone supplying and installing one but are the off the shelf DIY systems any good? Ive seen wifi cameras advertised - seems like a good idea?
Prolly looking at 4 cameras +/-
Any advice appreciated - Thanks in advance
Shafty
Akzle
23rd November 2014, 14:18
>h264, wired. a week's worth of HDD recording then auto write over - motion activated
camera placement is essential - can't be stolen, painted over, turned away, and preferably, not seen.
IR from cameras has limited range, consider separate IR floodlights for caprpark area &c.
or, if you have a spare PC and some time you can assemble your own using IP cameras, also wired but to a network router then recorded via software.
anything wireless is prone to interference, usually at the least opportune moments.
even if you plan on 4 cameras, get a box capable of 8+
me being a jaycar whore:
http://jaycar.co.nz/productView.asp?ID=QV3038%20&CATID=90&form=CAT2&SUBCATID=1034#5
this would be about your bottom line.
mashman
23rd November 2014, 14:28
You could play (https://learn.adafruit.com/ttl-serial-camera/overview)... guy demo'd the motion sensor at the office. Cool stuff.
R650R
23rd November 2014, 17:03
Definitely go DIY route... Anything professionally installed will be about $25k and upwards and the image quality will b the same.
A lot of them have remote monitoring via iPhone/web, check the specs.
Go for at least the 8 camera system and wired, not wireless as too much interference on 2.4 Ghz.
Even with four its hard to cover just a residential house.
Cables will Prob be 10-15m which you quickly find is short but you can buy extensions.
When I was on full time nights I got a simple 4 camera system to see if worth getting out of bed when door knocks or dog barks.
Even the cheap one I got from jay car had awesome night vision capability.
One thing though they seem to eat hard drives as they are recording all the time, even if you buy good ones, so keep receipts and get new news on warranty.
Inform any neighbours whose property is in view as can get expensive later if you have falling out as recent part case showed.
shafty
24th November 2014, 08:12
Thanks Guys 👍👍👍
Any other input from others? Thank you
Shafty
imdying
24th November 2014, 11:10
I was on a jury that let a guy off because the pubs security cameras image quality was poor. Poor enough to introduce sufficient doubt into the mind of one stupid bitch on the jury, which set all the other evidence aside as far as she was concerned.
In this instance, a poor quality system was worse than none at all. FWIW.
Scuba_Steve
24th November 2014, 11:53
I'd steer away from wireless as mentioned above it's quite crowded also most of the "DIY" ones are easily taken out by making a call on a Vodafone cell...
Tazz
24th November 2014, 12:29
Definitely go DIY route... Anything professionally installed will be about $25k and upwards and the image quality will b the same.
25k for four cameras? Yeah right.
Run them through a comp, hide and lock away the comp somewhere hard to get to with it's own UPS (but make sure it gets enough ventilation that it doesn't fry itself). You can get fishbowl/360 degree cameras with good quality now, 4 in one (well to cover a room anyway).
Nothing wrong with decent IR, but security lights are awesome anyway and if you don't have them you want them.
I'd save more than a weeks worth, but have it set so your cameras are motion activated and set to ignore 'chatter' (say if a busy road was in the frame you can ignore that part and have it set to only pick up from where cars pull into the drive).
Also you can set it so some stills get uploaded over time so just in case you still have that as a backup without using heaps of interweb data.
What's your budget?
I'd steer away from wireless as mentioned above it's quite crowded also most of the "DIY" ones are easily taken out by making a call on a Vodafone cell...
Also uses lots of data.
george formby
24th November 2014, 13:49
I put in a 4 camera Samsung system with 500gb hard drive awhile ago. It can be controlled, viewed & accessed via internet, cameras are HD colour & IR, 25 mtrs of cable. Cameras are weather resistant not weather proof so they are under cover. $400. They do an 8 camera system, too.
Image quality is excellent and I have positioned the cameras discreetly to monitor the highest risk areas. You can identify someone 10-15 mtrs away regardless of light.
The hardest part was figuring out the best place for the cameras and how to route the cables. After installation which is plug & play I just switched it on. Done.
I thought about Akzle's point of the cameras being damaged but figured the culprit would get recorded anyway so put my attention more to hiding & protecting the cables.
It's an easy job but requires a bit of thought.
R650R
24th November 2014, 16:20
25k for four cameras? Yeah right.
Learn to read cockhead
Tazz
24th November 2014, 16:38
Prolly looking at 4 cameras +/-
Anything professionally installed will be about $25k and upwards
Learn to read cockhead
Shit you're touchy. What am I missing? I had more cameras than that installed for under 10k.
bogan
24th November 2014, 16:41
Shit you're touchy. What am I missing? I had more cameras than that installed for under 10k.
300% markup? :innocent:
R650R
25th November 2014, 17:01
Shit you're touchy. What am I missing?
Probably all the big words with more than one syllable. I'm just sick of people who don't read properly then quote stuff out of context with stupid replies....
Akzle
25th November 2014, 18:23
I'm just sick of people who don't read properly then quote stuff out of context with stupid replies....
yet, you still log on to kb...
Tazz
25th November 2014, 18:37
Probably all the big words with more than one syllable. I'm just sick of people who don't read properly then quote stuff out of context with stupid replies....
I read properly, you said 25k for an install of 4 cameras.
Did you read the OP and type that correctly?
Care to break it down? Remember to watch the syllables... :yes:
R650R
25th November 2014, 20:02
you said 25k for an install of 4 cameras.
Jesus Christ here's something in th water down there, you've screwed it up twice now...
mossy1200
25th November 2014, 20:39
Your going to need a pair of eye in the sky automated drones cycling on battery charges with heat seeking camera technology.
This could cost a bit.
Tazz
25th November 2014, 20:59
Jesus Christ here's something in th water down there, you've screwed it up twice now...
Oh yeah, it might be less than 4 cameras :facepalm:
I'll just wait patiently for this 25k+ system that is relevant to what the OP has asked for...
Sorry for filling your thread up with shit shafty.
I think you can safely get professional quotes to measure against for what you specified and not expect anything near 25k+ for the install :yes: unless it includes hookers and blow or cameras hidden in the toilet walls.
I've used Prime Security in Chch, I think they have an Akl branch but it was really Kent in Chch who was the man who knew his stuff. Might not be much help but just in case.
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