Question for our resident cops

[Maha]

Found out today that a hubby of a husband/wife combo, is starting a lag of 200 hours Community Service. He told his wife that, he hadn't eaten all day and had a sip of beer :rolleyes: Wife has accepted that the 200 hours is his only punishment.

Question: Would there be a loss of licence tag onto the Community service?

[FJRider]

If you are over the limit ... you loose your license.

I'm guessing that the 200 hours is for a NON booze related offense.

[Mom]

If you are over the limit ... you loose your license.

I'm guessing that the 200 hours is for a NON booze related offense.

No, definitely for a booze driving offense. I think some lack of truth from him is the story here.

[FJRider]

No, definitely for a booze driving offense. I think some lack of truth from him is the story here.

"Some" might be an understatement ...

But ... "under the influence" ... as opposed to over the limit ... might be the relevant issue ...

[Mom]

"Some" might be an understatement ...

But ... "under the influence" ... as opposed to over the limit ... might be the relevant issue ...

He is serving a sentence of community service - 200 hours and his wife tells me he only had a sip of beer after not eating all day?????

I am pretty certain you will get a lose of license for any drink driving conviction regardless of the other penalties imposed? Just wanted some clarification really as to whether you can plea bargain a community service in place of a long walk?

[jellywrestler]

If you are over the limit ... you loose your license.

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could be the maori kings son?

[tigertim20]

he should have lost his licence and received community work as well. you can get more than one punishment or the one offence if thats what youre asking

Not uncommon for people to receive multiple punishments for one offence, e.g. a serious offence might be loss of licence, plus community work, plus supervision, plus a requirement to complete an alcohol and drug seminar or course

[FJRider]

He is serving a sentence of community service - 200 hours and his wife tells me he only had a sip of beer after not eating all day?????

Either somebody is telling porkies ... or the judge was in a good mood that day.


I am pretty certain you will get a lose of license for any drink driving conviction regardless of the other penalties imposed? Just wanted some clarification really as to whether you can plea bargain a community service in place of a long walk?

I am certain of the same ... but ... read the local newspaper court pages ...

[Maha]

he should have lost his licence and received community work as well. you can get more than one punishment or the one offence if thats what youre asking

Not uncommon for people to receive multiple punishments for one offence, e.g. a serious offence might be loss of licence, plus community work, plus supervision, plus a requirement to complete an alcohol and drug seminar or course

The reason I asked about the lose of licence in this instance was, because he is still driving. He urged his wife to get her licence a few months ago.

[unstuck]

The reason I asked about the lose of licence in this instance was, because he is still driving. He urged his wife to get her licence a few months ago.

Car will be impounded next time he gets stopped then, and another trip to court. :laugh::laugh:

[skippa1]

The reason I asked about the lose of licence in this instance was, because he is still driving. He urged his wife to get her licence a few months ago.
Losing your licence doesn't mean you can't drive

just that you have been banned.....

[scumdog]

Found out today that a hubby of a husband/wife combo, is starting a lag of 200 hours Community Service. He told his wife that, he hadn't eaten all day and had a sip of beer :rolleyes: Wife has accepted that the 200 hours is his only punishment.

Question: Would there be a loss of licence tag onto the Community service?

Mwahahaha....:laugh::rofl:
'a sip' - sure, and the breath testing device was faulty too.;)

He MAY have got 200 hours without disqualification but that's almost right up there with me winning the Isle of Man on me Harley in likelihood.

Possibly it wasn't an EBA conviction at all??

[scumdog]

Car will be impounded next time he gets stopped then, and another trip to court. :laugh::laugh:

What he said.

And possibly another six months disqualification too.:pinch:

[Katman]

Found out today that a hubby of a husband/wife combo, is starting a lag of 200 hours Community Service.

Tell him to dry his eyes.

[R650R]

that a hubby of a husband/wife combo...

I do chuckle that there was the need for the qualifier after hubby of...lol

[HenryDorsetCase]

could be the maori kings son?

that douchenozzle got a DWC. Glad to see the Crown is appealing.

[Bender]

It is possible. I have a friend who got community service only for a DUI offence. Did not lose his licence.

[buggerit]

Did wifey attend said court case or is the whole thing a cunning but simple plan to have one day a weekend to do as
you wish (lets ride!):2thumbsup:wings:

[sidecar bob]

could be the maori kings son?

Whats a Maori king?

[unstuck]

Whats a Maori king?

His dad???:niceone:

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[Swoop]

Whats a Maori king?

Better known as "The Tainui King".

[unstuck]

Better known as "The Tainui King".

The Tainuia kid, who remembers him?

[nodrog]

Whats a Maori king?

You know, a Wha King.

[Big Dog]

It is possible. I have a friend who got community service only for a DUI offence. Did not lose his licence.

Over a decade ago now but I had a staff member tell me that his mea culpa style admission and letters of reference combined with a need to drive for work outside of hours that would be permissible on a work license saw a judge sentencing to 500 hours of community service instead of 200 hours PD and 6 months loss of licensethat was typical at the time. He escaped PD on the grounds that he had only lived in NZ for 3 months and was not familiar with the law here, should be receive a sentence of detainment ( PD or prison) he would be deported) and where he was from drink driving is a roadside fine before they let you carry on your merry way.
But then he did not hurt anybody and was quick to cover the costs of his crash. E.g he paid for the damages to the barrier and fence before court day.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[unstuck]

Community service IS the new name for PD.:whistle:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Mwahahaha....:laugh::rofl:
'a sip' - sure, and the breath testing device was faulty too.;)

He MAY have got 200 hours without disqualification but that's almost right up there with me winning the Isle of Man on me Harley in likelihood.

Possibly it wasn't an EBA conviction at all??

my understanding is that all EBA carry a mandatory DQ. with a minimum stand down period of 1 month before applying for a "Work" licence.

I am no expert in the area though.

[Big Dog]

Community service IS the new name for PD.:whistle:

Nah, community service you can serve in many ways. I know lifeguards who used their log hours for unpaid life guarding to fill the time slots.
Pretty much you decide the how and have it approved by your probation officer.

PD you have to attend a specific location and carry out community service tasks as dictated by the person in charge.

I have never had to do either.
I hope that continues to be true.

From what I hear the District Licensing Authority (liquor licensing) and the immigration suits regard community service as a negative but one easily overlooked if there is sufficient evidence this is not the normal behaviour of the applicant.
PD you would need a pretty outstanding explanation and mitigation.

That said that is just based on the dealings is a few miscreant associates. I am no expert and I have never had the boot on my foot.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Maha]

Hodor......

Calamine Lotion should clear that right up.

[unstuck]

Nah, community service you can serve in many ways. I know lifeguards who used their log hours for unpaid life guarding to fill the time slots.
Pretty much you decide the how and have it approved by your probation officer.

PD you have to attend a specific location and carry out community service tasks as dictated by the person in charge.

I have never had to do either.
I hope that continues to be true.

From what I hear the District Licensing Authority (liquor licensing) and the immigration suits regard community service as a negative but one easily overlooked if there is sufficient evidence this is not the normal behaviour of the applicant.
PD you would need a pretty outstanding explanation and mitigation.

That said that is just based on the dealings is a few miscreant associates. I am no expert and I have never had the boot on my foot.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

I have done plenty of both, and they are now both know as community service.:msn-wink:

Although you can choose the AGENCY option, that allows you to choose the service you would like to VOLUNTEER for.

[Big Dog]

I have done plenty of both, and they are now both know as community service.:msn-wink:

Although you can choose the AGENCY option, that allows you to choose the service you would like to VOLUNTEER for.

I'll take that on board as new information... Information I hope I don't need.

By that standard my old staff member would have been deported. :doh: condition of his study visa was no convictions resulting in detention. It explicitly defined PD as detention.
I went through the information his lawyer and the courts provided him to help him understand what was going on. His English was quite pidgin at the time.

His lawyer essentially told him to pack his bags.

After reading the differences in the definitions I told him to find the reparations and start volunteering before his case was heard. That it was no guarantee but he would never know if he did not ask, and his chances were better if he had already accepted responsibility.

His lawyer told him not to waste the money.
2 years later he got residency. 5 years after that citizenship. I guess you can't trust the duty / appointed solicitor.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[unstuck]

I guess you can't trust the duty / appointed solicitor.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

Why I always defend myself. Something that is not always advisable, seeing as I cannot keep my big mouth shut and judges have no sense of humor. :facepalm:

[Big Dog]

Why I always defend myself. Something that is not always advisable, seeing as I cannot keep my big mouth shut and judges have no sense of humor. :facepalm:

Something about the man who defends himself in court has a fool for a lawyer? :spanking:
Still better to be a fool that has a say in his destiny than to blindly follow where an uninterested party leads.