Festive Cheer from the Popo

[Ulsterkiwi]

popped out to rent a movie this evening. Took the cage. On the way saw lots of police cars, then the booze bus. Fair enough, lots of partying this time of year and driving boozed up aint a good idea.
Was stopped on the way home. No problem, been days since I have had a beer.
While the machine was analysing my breath sample mr policeman checks my rego label which I know expires on 24th December. I also know that I bought a new label online this week and am waiting for it to come in the mail. (good service that BTW)
Mr policeman tells me my warrant is nearly up and to be careful of that. I replied my warrant is not due until July 2015. He was looking at my rego.
Oh, says he, I mean your rego is almost up. Yes, I said, on 24th December, but I am legal until then am I not?
Hmm, says he with a very stern expression, you need to be very mindful of things like that
Ah, says I, I have already purchased a replacement label online.
He got a bit cross then and said "it should be on the car then"
Before I said what I really thought I drove off.

Police have a tough job and all and I know most are decent spuds but come on!!...a telling off even though the vehicle and driver are perfectly legal? Its not really the way to engender community spirit lads is it? Safer Communities Together, hmmm work on the community bit is required methinks.......

[98tls]

Booze bus here tonight (Oamaru) on account of it being crate day and the lower limit am picking they will have a good catch,was in town earlier and stopped in at local booze shop and the bloke informed me he had sold 270 crates of piss between 1 and 3 this arvo.

[Oakie]

Booze bus here tonight (Oamaru) on account of it being crate day and the lower limit am picking they will have a good catch,was in town earlier and stopped in at local booze shop and the bloke informed me he had sold 270 crates of piss between 1 and 3 this arvo.

Crate Day? Must be a new thing as we didn't have that when I left Oamaru ... although that was 27 years ago. I suppose new things can happen ... even in Oamaru. Must go back for a visit one of these days. I hear they even make whisky there now.

[Mike.Gayner]

A friendly reminder that your rego is almost due? Man, what a fuckwit :rolleyes:

[98tls]

Crate Day? Must be a new thing as we didn't have that when I left Oamaru ... although that was 27 years ago. I suppose new things can happen ... even in Oamaru. Must go back for a visit one of these days. I hear they even make whisky there now.

Aye they do,crate day everywhere i believe and something started by a radio station years back i think.Cops must hate it seems every year its a busy night,still i guess its an opp to give a few tards the kicking they desperately need for there future development.

[Akzle]

Crate Day? Must be a new thing as we didn't have that when I left Oamaru ... although that was 27 years ago. I suppose new things can happen ... even in Oamaru. Must go back for a visit one of these days. I hear they even make whisky there now.

its nationwide.
Used to be friday. The first day of summer. Ish.
Wrote it into me last employment contracts as public holiday.

Ahhh, binge drinking.

[Grumph]

Booze bus here tonight (Oamaru) on account of it being crate day and the lower limit am picking they will have a good catch,was in town earlier and stopped in at local booze shop and the bloke informed me he had sold 270 crates of piss between 1 and 3 this arvo.

The house there which m'daughter has recently bought looks down on the regular booze bus spot...better than TV I'm told, particularly if someone makes a run for it.

Akzle....seen in the back window of an enormous Cadillac in Invercargill - "Jew Canoe".......

[98tls]

The house there which m'daughter has recently bought looks down on the regular booze bus spot...better than TV I'm told, particularly if someone makes a run for it
Aye it would be to,am thinking shes on the hill above the park.

[Ulsterkiwi]

A friendly reminder that your rego is almost due? Man, what a fuckwit :rolleyes:

It wasn't friendly.


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[98tls]

Fuck friendly i reckon tis NZ we are talking of,bad enough in small town NZ no doubt but the bullshit coppers must deal with on a daily basis in the big smoke would be enough to develop an attitude in general i am picking.Tis all very well for mr n mrs Jones to feel a bit pissed off with a coppers attitude but spend a few days/nights in a 111 call center and you may forgive a few of em for being a tad negative.

[Ulsterkiwi]

Fuck friendly i reckon tis NZ we are talking of,bad enough in small town NZ no doubt but the bullshit coppers must deal with on a daily basis in the big smoke would be enough to develop an attitude in general i am picking.Tis all very well for mr n mrs Jones to feel a bit pissed off with a coppers attitude but spend a few days/nights in a 111 call center and you may forgive a few of em for being a tad negative.

true, I may just do that.

[JimO]

i got stopped on thursday for a breath test, the cop was a good sort and asked if i knew the limit had come down

[98tls]

true, I may just do that.
Good time to with the festive season upon us,bad shit starts around boxing day when with the holiday pay spent at the pokies or TAB is long gone cunts start beating there mrs as they cant afford another crate,no joy there they start on the kids piggy bank etc etc etc.Dont get me wrong theres cops out there that are born cunts just like cunts in any occupation but the day in day out shit that goes on that most wouldnt have a clue about.:oi-grr:

[Ulsterkiwi]

Understand even if I have not experienced what these fellas do. I suppose if I had been stopped at 2am in the pissing rain in a city centre I would have been more understanding. Ah well. Perhaps I should just lower my expectations for any future interactions :-)


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[R650R]

but the day in day out shit that goes on that most wouldnt have a clue about.:oi-grr:

But that goes for any job and there are plenty of other people in jobs they don't like or weren't what they were promised but don't treat it as an excuse to treat joe public rudely.
Police need to look at who they are hiring instead of grabbing every retired sportstar or club rugby player, there's too much emphasis on team players. What they really need is semi pyscotic people who've already experienced a breakdown of some sort who wont crack under pressure.
There's been a culture shift as the police have gradually become militarized that everyone not in a blue uniform is potential enemy.
Used to be always a smile and chit chat at checkpoints and they would even wave the trucks straight through without stopping.
Now its the thousand yard stare of a shell shocked vet ordering you to say name and address instead of hows your day going?

[Berries]

Fucking cagers.

[willytheekid]

Had two in my street in the past month or so...was actually great to see:yes:

...I like it when they target drunk drivers

Got stopped the last time with my rego out by a month or so(again!)....not a word was said, except "How's this gonna work with a helmet lol, thank you sir, you have a nice evening and thanks for not drink dri...riding"....:niceone:

Nothing but the finest service from our local ChCH popo, and it was all was served with a friendly smile :D

...I love to see professional & polite service :first:

[scumdog]

Police have a tough job and all and I know most are decent spuds but come on!!...a telling off even though the vehicle and driver are perfectly legal? Its not really the way to engender community spirit lads is it? Safer Communities Together, hmmm work on the community bit is required methinks.......

Fucken harden up, some people are waaaayyy to precious!:yes:

I got the same treatment tonight and thought 'meh, whatever'!:yawn:

[scumdog]

But that goes for any job and there are plenty of other people in jobs they don't like or weren't what they were promised but don't treat it as an excuse to treat joe public rudely.
Police need to look at who they are hiring instead of grabbing every retired sportstar or club rugby player, there's too much emphasis on team players. What they really need is semi pyscotic people who've already experienced a breakdown of some sort who wont crack under pressure.
There's been a culture shift as the police have gradually become militarized that everyone not in a blue uniform is potential enemy.
Used to be always a smile and chit chat at checkpoints and they would even wave the trucks straight through without stopping.
Now its the thousand yard stare of a shell shocked vet ordering you to say name and address instead of hows your day going?

Yeah, sure like it's the first time they've had to deal with an agrieved 'innocent' driver....

"I wasn't drinking,it's not my car, I've only had two drinks, I'm the sober driver...yadda-yada-yadda."

Sorry, I know what you mean but sometimes you feel like saying "Whoa, I've had enough, fuck-off" after the gazillionth smart-arse behind the wheel that you've stopped.

It grinds you down.:weep:

[Akzle]

Akzle....seen in the back window of an enormous Cadillac in Invercargill - "Jew Canoe".......

the fuck that has to do with me?

[Akzle]

sometimes you feel like saying "Whoa, I've had enough, fuck-off" after the gazillionth smart-arse behind the wheel that you've stopped.

im that guy.

[R650R]

Sorry, I know what you mean but sometimes you feel like saying "Whoa, I've had enough, fuck-off" after the gazillionth smart-arse behind the wheel that you've stopped.

It grinds you down.:weep:

Fair enough. Maybe its time under OSH that some sort of psychometric testing or monitoring was put in place to monitor happiness levels and redirect staff to appropriate situations.
We had a case down here where an officer smashed the windscreen of a family car (2 adults and kids inside) with nightstick as they left a checkpoint. They thought they had been waved through not to stop etc and the cop at end thought differently.
There were couple articles in paper but no follow up as to what happened.
Now even if they had been a drunk driver the last thing you would want is a pursuit where the driver cant see properly through window....

What gets me is at the checkpoints some will 'order' you to say name and address like your a criminal while others use the please count to ten request.
I think if you implemented a dept wide change to only asking for the count to ten you would get better reception overall. I understand the benefit of name and address as you will catch wanted people from time to time though that but its time the dept thought of the bigger picture and keeping the public involved as partners.

[Berg]

Came through the same checkpoint. Mrs Berg was driving as I'd had a few. No worries for us and Mr policeman was very polite and friendly.
Judging by the few cars heading back to the stn with people residing in the back they might have got a few.

[Akzle]

What gets me is at the checkpoints some will 'order' you to say name and address like your a criminal while others use the please count to ten request.

just say 'with protest and under duress'

[Scuba_Steve]

He got a bit cross then and said "it should be on the car then"


He just told you to breach the same piece of legislation that says you gotta have one in the 1st place... sounds like entrapment to me :whistle:



just say 'with protest and under duress'

It's usually them telling me I'm under duress'd... I'm wearing a helmet what more do they want!

[rastuscat]

just say 'with protest and under duress'

The law says they can require the name and address.

When doing CBTs I always ask for the name and address into the machine as that is the only information I can legally require of a driver. If I asked them to count to ten and they said no, I'd just be having to demand the name and address anyway.

I wish I had a dollar for every knob who thought it was the first time I had heard "Good afterbull Consternoon".

[Akzle]

The law says they can require the name and address.


*legislation.

('given the force of law')

[scumdog]

*legislation.

('given the force of law')

You certainly have earned your black belt in pedantics!:rolleyes:

[Akzle]

You certainly have earned your black belt in pedantics!:rolleyes:

catches out a few dumb cops alright!

[R650R]

The law says they can require the name and address.

When doing CBTs I always ask for the name and address into the machine as that is the only information I can legally require of a driver. If I asked them to count to ten and they said no, I'd just be having to demand the name and address anyway.

I wish I had a dollar for every knob who thought it was the first time I had heard "Good afterbull Consternoon".

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. Your guys lives would be a lot easier if it went back to the old days of a more relaxed approach while achieving the same objective.
If a driver refuses to count to ten then you can open a full can of legal whoop arse on him and ruin his night. But I think the instances of that would surely be lower if asked to count to ten nicely instead of a gruff impolite name and address demand.

Used to work with couple guys who loved winding up you fellas at checkpoints. I'd daren't be behind them if I could avoid it but usually the officer was in such a state he'd wave me and the next half dozen vehicles straight thru.
Their favourite gems were:
Does your mother know your doing this for a living....
And for name and address the other guy would say Mickey mouse, Disneyland.....

The worst I'd ever say is to inform them they are violating OSH truck entry by not maintaining three points of contact while climbing up side of cab holding breathyliser thingy....

[scumdog]

catches out a few dumb cops alright!

Pfft, only in YOUR mind - they likely wouldn't care...I sure as hell wouldn't give a fat rats arse about it, uh-uh.

[Akzle]

Pfft, only in YOUR mind - they likely wouldn't care...I sure as hell wouldn't give a fat rats arse about it, uh-uh.

not until it gets to court, of you're handing me a cheque a few months later, you fucks normally a bit quieter the next few times you see me.

[scumdog]

not until it gets to court, of you're handing me a cheque a few months later, you fucks normally a bit quieter the next few times you see me.

Wow, what an ego.......:rolleyes:

Or you're just another fullofshit keyboaard warrior...:bleh:

[rastuscat]

The passive breath tester has a wee pump in the top which sucks in the air coming out of the mouth.

I've had people recite poetry in a lighter moment. As long as they are talking the words mean jack. I told someone once that it was a lie detector and they admitted to not being who they said they were. I knew they weren't Mickey Mouse anyway. His ears are bigger.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I was hoping that said "Festive cheer from the Pope" I was hoping to be sexually abused and have all my money taken away. Now I am sad.

[HenryDorsetCase]

not until it gets to court, of you're handing me a cheque a few months later, you fucks normally a bit quieter the next few times you see me.

Oh dude, are you still on that trip?

[GSW]

I wish I had a dollar for every knob who thought it was the first time I had heard "Good afterbull Consternoon".


Shit i've been getting it wrong all these years... I thought it was "Cuntstanoon Afterbull"

[Akzle]

Oh dude, are you still on that trip?

still works.

[rastuscat]

still works.

Merry Christmas Akzle.

Hope you come back next year to add some amusement to our threads.

[JimO]

Wow, what an ego.......:rolleyes:

Or you're just another fullofshit keyboaard warrior...:bleh:
............306980

[veldthui]

The thing I hate is when it is absolutely hammering with rain and you ride past a cop car sitting in town ignoring everyone until you ride past puts all the lights on and pulls you over only to say we are checking bikes today, can I see your license. No issue with the license part but did not check the bike at all for warrent or rego cause he would have had to get down on his knees in the rain.
Then says have a nice day. Takes 30 minutes just to get the bloody wet gloves back on and now the helmet has water in it and gets all fogged up for the next 15 minutes while riding making it nearly impossible to see properly.
Was perfectly fine and safe up until then!

[R650R]

Lots of festive cheer in Gissy.... Martial Law finally comes to NZ and about time :)

Bet someone made a packet building/leasing these to cops or are they ex army????

https://www.facebook.com/HawkesBayPolice/photos/a.424815367555640.84922.393692454001265/783931971643976/?type=1&theater

[awayatc]

Now we are talking......
Drunk and disorderly...
Or just plain disorderly...
Lock the fuckers up.....

hope they can spare a cop or 2 from speed enforcing duties........:sweatdrop

[Scuba_Steve]

Now we are talking......
Drunk and disorderly...
Or just plain disorderly...
Lock the fuckers up.....

hope they can spare a cop or 2 from speed enforcing duties........:sweatdrop

TBH I'm expecting they'll start allocating more cops to the booze bus & let cameras scam the speed as the booze bus is now gonna start being profitable for them [Govt]

That's my guess anyways

[scumdog]

TBH I'm expecting they'll start allocating more cops to the booze bus & let cameras scam the speed as the booze bus is now gonna start being profitable for them [Govt]

That's my guess anyways

Your 'guesses' are like the mad womans shit...

[Scuba_Steve]

Your 'guesses' are like the mad womans shit...

What? Smelly, messy but usually on target... Yea you're probably right

[scumdog]

What? Smelly, messy but usually on target... Yea you're probably right

Uh, hate to break it to you but that's yet another of your 'mad-woman-shit' guesses!:devil2:

[SPman]

The thing I hate is when it is absolutely hammering with rain and you ride past a cop car sitting in town ignoring everyone until you ride past puts all the lights on and pulls you over only to say we are checking bikes today, can I see your license. No issue with the license part but did not check the bike at all for warrent or rego cause he would have had to get down on his knees in the rain.
Then says have a nice day. Takes 30 minutes just to get the bloody wet gloves back on and now the helmet has water in it and gets all fogged up for the next 15 minutes while riding making it nearly impossible to see properly.
Was perfectly fine and safe up until then!I've been in the hammering down with rain scenario - outside Palmy and sitting on 120 or so to get there quicker,( yeah I know - it was Palmy so why bother), being totally saturated due to crap wet weather gear. Mr Popo in the line of traffic coming the other way just lowered his window slightly and waved me to slow down, which I did, momentarily. He would have been drowned getting out of the car, so he did the sensible thing (from my perspective)


Sorry, I know what you mean but sometimes you feel like saying "Whoa, I've had enough, fuck-off" after the gazillionth smart-arse behind the wheel that you've stopped.

It grinds you down.:weep:

That's where the level of professionalism of the particular officer plays it's role. You know it's going to happen, so, the professional thing to do is just shrug it off, like water off a ducks back. It can be quite pleasant, dealing with professional police, even if you know you're in the wrong - it's the grumpy, surly, arseholes who seem to be away on a their own little powertrip, that are the problem.

[rastuscat]

It can be quite pleasant, dealing with professional people, even if they know they're in the wrong - it's the grumpy, surly, arseholes who seem to be away on a their own little powertrip, that are the problem.

Fixed it for ya.

Most people we deal with are just Mr and Mrs Average who have made a small error. The ticket relates to the error, not to who the person is, but that occasionally gets lost in the fog.

E.g. I'm dealing with someone who I found driving with their phone up to their ear. I talk to them, and suddenly I'm being called a c***. Nobody ever said they are a bad person, the ticket is because of what they did, not who they are. But the insults coming back are almost always personal.

I've mentioned it before, but Sigmund Freud identified a number of defence mechanisms people use with us each day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_mechanisms

I've seen, and videoed, someone going through a red light, only to have them tell me, verbally and in a letter of complaint, they didn't (denial), and that I'm just revenue collecting (accusing the accuser).

Accusing the accuser actually makes very little sense, but it makes people feel better to point the finger right on back. Like, the stop and the ticket are about the offence.

It's the source of the whole revenue collecting thing, really. Folk don't like getting tickets, so suddenly it's our fault. The problem with that chain of thought is that if someone else is to blame, it means the individual has no hope of changing the outcome.

Gob smacking how psychological this whole field can be.

[mossy1200]

Fixed it for ya.

Most people we deal with are just Mr and Mrs Average who have made a small error. The ticket relates to the error, not to who the person is, but that occasionally gets lost in the fog.

I've mentioned it before, but Sigmund Freud identified a number of defence mechanisms people use with us each day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_mechanisms

I've seen, and videoed, someone going through a red light, only to have them tell me they didn't (denial), and that I'm just revenue collecting (accusing the accuser).

I quite enjoyed showing that man the video, but he just wasn't interested.

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This is how to do it.

[rastuscat]

Giggled at that. When I present on the courses at the Popo College I always run that scene.

I stop a car, and the driver says "You don't need to see my licence".

I advise people not to fall for the Jedi mind tricks.

[ruaphu]

The thing I hate is when it is absolutely hammering with rain and you ride past a cop car sitting in town ignoring everyone until you ride past puts all the lights on and pulls you over only to say we are checking bikes today, can I see your license. No issue with the license part but did not check the bike at all for warrent or rego cause he would have had to get down on his knees in the rain.
Then says have a nice day. Takes 30 minutes just to get the bloody wet gloves back on and now the helmet has water in it and gets all fogged up for the next 15 minutes while riding making it nearly impossible to see properly.
Was perfectly fine and safe up until then!

Oooooh plus 1 to that!

Why oh fecking why would ya want to yank a biker in the rain and let em get drenched just to do a licence and vehicle Check????

Beyond me, demonstrates a complete lack of common sense towards my safety. I would accept it if i was doing something wrong but i wasn't in either situation.

The second time i engaged in erm what I'd call 'robust' conversation with the officer cos i was that pissed off. He was unrepentant taking the high and mighty attitude. Ended up sitting in Bulls McD's havin a dry off for an hour.

Can it be so hard for an officer to realize a biker has enough to deal with riding in the rain without the need for a BS traffic stop, does nothing for the image of 'safe' road policing.


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[Scuba_Steve]

Uh, hate to break it to you but that's yet another of your 'mad-woman-shit' guesses!:devil2:

Guess time will tell then, but as drink driving is now worth $$$ I do expect to see more effort put towards it; & your gang heads have already stated more cameras are coming.
It's all about maximising profit scummy, gots ta make dat cash moneys... you worried all these automated scamming devices gonna be taking your job from you? :Pokey:

[R650R]

Chopper Reid says Ha H H ha H Harden the F up bikers..... jesus its bad enough everyone whining about speed tickets when we know the rules of the game. Now where like a bunch of housewives just left the salon oh we cant get our hair wet now.... how bloddy embarrassing....

As someone whose done multi drop work at night and in all weather its no big deal to get wet as part of your job, just another day at the office. You soon develop ways to make it work and tricks to dry off after etc...
So don't go thinking rain is an excuse to not be pulled over FFS!!!

[ruaphu]

Chopper Reid says Ha H H ha H Harden the F up bikers..... jesus its bad enough everyone whining about speed tickets when we know the rules of the game. Now where like a bunch of housewives just left the salon oh we cant get our hair wet now.... how bloddy embarrassing....

As someone whose done multi drop work at night and in all weather its no big deal to get wet as part of your job, just another day at the office. You soon develop ways to make it work and tricks to dry off after etc...
So don't go thinking rain is an excuse to not be pulled over FFS!!!

Feck off, no issues if ya local, but 200 clicks away from home, feck that, need it like another hole in the head.

As for hair, got none cos its over rated, lol.

Wtf is multi drop work R-six-fiddy????? Bein an ex-liney/sparky around the central north island I know all too well about working in chite weather, HV fault work on Mt Ruapehu ski fields in winter was a charlie-unt to say the least.

Cheers eh, Ando


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[veldthui]

Chopper Reid says Ha H H ha H Harden the F up bikers..... jesus its bad enough everyone whining about speed tickets when we know the rules of the game. Now where like a bunch of housewives just left the salon oh we cant get our hair wet now.... how bloddy embarrassing....

As someone whose done multi drop work at night and in all weather its no big deal to get wet as part of your job, just another day at the office. You soon develop ways to make it work and tricks to dry off after etc...
So don't go thinking rain is an excuse to not be pulled over FFS!!!

If I did something wrong then I have no issue getting pulled over in the rain. However to be pulled over just for riding a bike doing everything legal then I do object and get #??## off. This shithead made what was totally a safe ride into one that was very unsafe for at least 30 minutes while my visor could resume it's proper function. They keep saying they are there to make the roads safer.

[R650R]

Wtf is multi drop work R-six-fiddy?????

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Basically being a 44ton courier delivering all your own freight along the way from carton to pallets to whole/half truck loads.
After blindside backing into potholed yards and then unlocking sheds and alarms its off to unload by yourself. It will be raining and it will be windy... and the forklift will be a cheap old one with no roof etc...
The only dry covered space will be where the freight goes after you take it off.
I actually enjoyed that type of work but lot of guys wont go near it as it involves them getting out of cab more than once a night.
Soemthing worse than the rain though is getting snotted on the head by an aluminium pole on the end of trailer curtain in the wind. Ally is light but may as well be steel when its got some speed on!

[awayatc]

FFS you whining little softcock....
hope you can see the smallest little violin playing in the background...
if you cant handle the heat get out of the fuckin kitchen.
only way one can measure up in a hard man's environment.....?
your guess sunshine...

little hint.....
your first effort failed........