View Full Version : Best way to finish steel headers?
nzspokes
14th December 2014, 19:45
Im going to need to re-finish some steel headers as they are rusty. What is the best way to paint/coat them so it lasts?
bogan
14th December 2014, 19:51
How badly rusted? Unless you can get em back to silky smooth finish there's not much point in getting them coated. Even then, just get some stainless ones is probably cost effective anyway.
nzspokes
14th December 2014, 19:57
How badly rusted? Unless you can get em back to silky smooth finish there's not much point in getting them coated. Even then, just get some stainless ones is probably cost effective anyway.
Not nasty. but on the bike they can been seen. Getting the frame powder coated so may as well get the headers done at the same time.
haydes55
14th December 2014, 22:08
Get that proper exhaust paint, get the pipes hot and paint them. If you do it right, that paint stays on real good. And looks pretty tidy
Grumph
15th December 2014, 05:16
Get them grit blasted first otherwise it's just wasted effort. Then the correct paint.
Akzle
15th December 2014, 06:20
cerakote .
00quattro00
15th December 2014, 18:31
Bbq paint is quite effective
Big Dog
15th December 2014, 18:46
Bbq paint is quite effective
BBQ paint pits quite quickly by comparison IME.
And its a bastard to clean off if you want to repair the job the previous owner did.
Looks great at first but if it gets mud on it eats the paint as it goes through heat cycles.
Took hours with a wire wheel.
Get proper exhaust paint on the other hand it looks kind of average when you first do it but a few heat cycles later it looks like it was glazed in a kiln.
Murray
15th December 2014, 19:22
Get that proper exhaust paint, get the pipes hot and paint them. If you do it right, that paint stays on real good. And looks pretty tidy
where do you get that and what is it??
nzspokes
15th December 2014, 19:36
where do you get that and what is it??
I was wondering the same.
Tazz
15th December 2014, 19:40
where do you get that and what is it??
vht from memory
and POR-15 I think? POR-15 rust stuff is the fucking business, so if they do exhaust paint too I'd run with it (even if it is spendy)
nzspokes
15th December 2014, 19:52
vht from memory
and POR-15 I think? POR-15 rust stuff is the fucking business, so if they do exhaust paint too I'd run with it (even if it is spendy)
Oh cool. Ive heard of that stuff before. Price is not so much the issue as getting it right.
And I cant paint for shit so would find somebody that can.
Haggis2
15th December 2014, 20:15
www.hpcoatings.co.nz I had the VTR headers done, I can't vouch for longevity but the finish, service and IMHO price was pretty good. The pipes are blasted before being recoated.
nzspokes
15th December 2014, 20:25
www.hpcoatings.co.nz I had the VTR headers done, I can't vouch for longevity but the finish, service and IMHO price was pretty good. The pipes are blasted before being recoated.
What kind of cost? Has it lasted ok on the VTR ones?
As my VTR ones are a bit manky.
scumdog
15th December 2014, 20:30
HPC coating, lasts well and looks good for ever.
Big Dog
15th December 2014, 22:27
Oh cool. Ive heard of that stuff before. Price is not so much the issue as getting it right.
And I cant paint for shit so would find somebody that can.
If you put VHT rattle cans on a hot pipe (heat gun in one end?) the paint itself is pretty well self levelling.
Hang the exhaust by a surface not needin to be painted. Spray a thin stripes along the shape of the exhaust. Don't worry about overlapping, wait a few mins and add another set of stripes as thin as you can manage aiming for the gaps repeat until you have an even glossy finish.
Allow to cool.
Repeat.
Of course you can pay someone to use a compressor to do the same in a spray booth.
I have seen some pretty pro looking jobs finished with a rattle can, a coat hanger and a box.
Seen some pretty shitty pro jobs.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Big Dog
15th December 2014, 22:30
Red Baron sell VHT. As do repco, super cheap have a different brand.
They normally have gloss and Matt black I used Matte titanium but I was after the factory look not a glossy look. Came up looking factory. 20,000 later it looks like 20,000 km pipe not the rusty 20,000 km pipe that was on there. That looked a lot like it had been parked on a beach a lot.
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Haggis2
16th December 2014, 06:44
What kind of cost? Has it lasted ok on the VTR ones?
As my VTR ones are a bit manky.
Cost me $200-$250 to the best of my memory, I hade the header pipes and some custom link pipes I made coated. All their prices are listed on their website. I then only had 6 months of use before selling unfortunately but still looked great at that point.
nzspokes
16th December 2014, 07:09
Cost me $200-$250 to the best of my memory, I hade the header pipes and some custom link pipes I made coated. All their prices are listed on their website. I then only had 6 months of use before selling unfortunately but still looked great at that point.
Cool thanks man.
The Reibz
16th December 2014, 21:41
Don't waste your time and money on paint. People fail to realise the beating these things take, paint just isn't up to the task.
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These headers were HPC coated. They are acid dipped first, not sandblasted. As that often does more harm than good.
The coating is inside and out. That engine is now supercharged and running 22psi of boost and the headers are still intact and the finish looks sparkly still. VHT paint would have long since failed.
Do it once, do it right
nzspokes
16th December 2014, 21:44
Don't waste your time and money on paint. People fail to realise the beating these things take, paint just isn't up to the task.
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These headers were HPC coated. They are acid dipped first, not sandblasted. As that often does more harm than good.
The coating is inside and out. That engine is now supercharged and running 22psi of boost and the headers are still intact and the finish looks sparkly still. VHT paint would have long since failed.
Do it once, do it right
Sweet. That answers that.
bogan
16th December 2014, 21:45
Do it once, do it right
What did you once do to the rest of that engine then :crazy: :scratch:
And what is wrong with stainless?
The Reibz
16th December 2014, 21:53
I prefer stainless but the pricetag is out of reach for most. $1000 for a set of headers is beyond most peoples wallets.
Not my car but I did a bit of fab work on it. The engine bay was a bit of a shitfight in that first photo, heres a updated one
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nzspokes
16th December 2014, 22:01
I prefer stainless but the pricetag is out of reach for most. $1000 for a set of headers is beyond most peoples wallets.
Not my car but I did a bit of fab work on it. The engine bay was a bit of a shitfight in that first photo, heres a updated one
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This is an old bike so probably cant get new headers anyway.
bogan
16th December 2014, 22:11
I prefer stainless but the pricetag is out of reach for most. $1000 for a set of headers is beyond most peoples wallets.
Not my car but I did a bit of fab work on it. The engine bay was a bit of a shitfight in that first photo, heres a updated one
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Yeh fair enough, mine cost me 120 bung and a few hours in the shed, gotta love them easy to work with V-twin headers :woohoo:
That looks better, bonnet support could use a bit of rust-kill though...
AllanB
16th December 2014, 22:17
VHT exhaust paint works well if you follow the instructions - and there is a primer as well.
THe ticket is to head cycle after the paint is dry - it cures the paint. Either over or on the machine works.
Akzle
18th December 2014, 19:08
I prefer stainless but the pricetag is out of reach for most. $1000 for a set of headers is beyond most peoples wallets.
Not my car but I did a bit of fab work on it. The engine bay was a bit of a shitfight in that first photo, heres a updated one
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the engine is the wrong way around...
nzspokes
18th December 2014, 19:34
Yeh fair enough, mine cost me 120 bung and a few hours in the shed, gotta love them easy to work with V-twin headers :woohoo:
That looks better, bonnet support could use a bit of rust-kill though...
This is a I4. The ones on mine I just polish from time to time.
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