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Reckless
15th December 2014, 12:01
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/64142160/Biker-convicted-for-indecent-exposure-wins-appeal

Biker convicted for indecent exposure wins appeal
Last updated 14:23, December 14 2014


An Auckland man has successfully appealed his conviction for exposing himself to a woman while standing up on his moving motorcycle.
The October 2013 case turned on whether the accused was the same person who cruised back past the victim seconds after the exposure incident.
The victim, a woman identified as Mrs M in court documents, told the North Shore District Court she was walking her dog on Fairview Avenue, Oteha, to pick up her daughter from school on March 8 2013.
She noticed a man coming towards her on a motorbike, dressed in black with his face obscured by a helmet.
The man was standing up on his bike with one hand on the handlebars and the other on his exposed penis.
Mrs M said the man rode past her coming within two to three metres.
He continued on but turned around, Mrs M said, and came back past her, this time sitting down.
Mrs M noted down the numberplate and hurried home to call police.
The owner of the bike denied exposing himself but was convicted at trial with the judge preferring Mrs M's evidence to the
motorcyclist's.
The judge thought the alleged act was possible with the High Court saying: "The judge found (the defendant's) evidence that it was impossible for him to stand on his motorcycle, control it at 25 kilometres per hour and simultaneously masturbate, to be unconvincing."
The conviction was overturned on appeal to the High Court last month over the point of whether the second motorbike rider was the same as the first, obscene rider.
Though the District Court judge "did not understand it to be seriously pressed that there may have been a change in... rider, or alternatively a different motorcycle that came down for the second occasion" the fact that the motorcycle disappeared from view between sightings was persuasive to High Court judge Justice Pamela Andrews.
Justice Andrews said it was common ground that the accused was the second rider but there was a reasonable doubt over whether the first and second motorcyclists were the same person.
The justice said Mrs M's sightings were both fleeting and she was focused on different things in each of them - what the man was doing in the first incident and the numberplate in the second.
Her descriptions of the biker's clothing were generic and did not point to any distinctive characteristics and though she correctly identified the bike as having red on it, at the time she was talking about the second biker's vehicle and she was not asked about the first motorcycle, Justice Andrews said.
Mrs M told the court "the [offending] motorcyclist turned around, sat down on his motorcycle and drove back past me, very slowly", but she also admitted that at one point he was out of her view.
Justice Andrews said she could not "exclude the possibility that Mrs M was mistaken in identifying (the accused) as the offending motorcyclist".
"I conclude that there is a reasonable doubt as to whether he was that person."

The conviction was quashed.

insomnia01
15th December 2014, 12:04
Mormon Few Stunt Crew branching out ???

sidecar bob
15th December 2014, 12:07
What a load of cock. a complete waste of taxpayer money on a wanker.
It cant have been Dpex, unless mrs M was under ten years old.

Murray
15th December 2014, 13:49
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/64142160/Biker-convicted-for-indecent-exposure-wins-appeal

Mrs M said the man rode past her coming within two to three metres.

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Thats a long shot

unstuck
15th December 2014, 14:02
Is that Illegal? Shit:crazy::shifty:

Big Dog
15th December 2014, 14:06
Thats a long shot

Not a bad aim from a motorcycle traveling at 25 kmph.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

BigAl
15th December 2014, 15:15
Akzle been getting his knob out? :nono:

haydes55
15th December 2014, 15:30
Mrs Mom I'm guessing? She seems to be attracting naked people these days

5150
15th December 2014, 15:39
Akzle been getting his knob out? :nono:

Pubester :lol:

Maha
15th December 2014, 15:42
Akzle been getting his knob out? :nono:

Naaaa much to Katman's disappointment, Akzle has a man-fan.

TheDemonLord
15th December 2014, 15:49
I heard about this - standing on the pegs, going 25 kph, with one hand on the bars - doesn't sound particularly hard...

Akzle
15th December 2014, 15:50
Akzle been getting his knob out? :nono:


...
An Auckland man...


:crybaby:
no need to be rude!

R650R
15th December 2014, 15:52
You have to wonder why Police didn't 'reenact' the scene to prove it was possible to ensure a prosecution. Guess none of their riders were up to it lol...

Sets an interesting precedent though, drive back past a crime scene immediately and its possible your similar make and model vehicle is not enough evidence to convict.... Could be interesting for the next drive by shooting victim...errr though they not normally alive for evidence giving,,,, but that bit about being focused on one thing then the number plate in next view, that's an out for a variety of road offences.

Wonder what sort of bike.... and no mention of left or right hand... just thinking about throttle control you know....

sidecar bob
15th December 2014, 16:05
Wonder what sort of bike.... and no mention of left or right hand... just thinking about throttle control you know....

He may have had a stiff throttle, in which case he wouldnt have needed to have his hand on it.

husaberg
15th December 2014, 16:12
Mrs M............ is that Mom she has been getting flashed
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/171673-What-is-worse-than

Big Dog
15th December 2014, 17:31
I heard about this - standing on the pegs, going 25 kph, with one hand on the bars - doesn't sound particularly hard...

I suppose it depends how short you are...

For me it would be easier to set the idle high enough it would cruise along in the right gear and take both hands off.
The bike will carry on straight left to its own devices, but folded over like that every bump in the road would be transmitted into one bar.

On the DR I can wave while standing on the pegs for judder bars etc... On the Hayabusa it turned out to be very ill advised. On the CB I have not been silly enough to try.

Big Dog
15th December 2014, 17:45
You have to wonder why Police didn't 'reenact' the scene to prove it was possible to ensure a prosecution. Guess none of their riders were up to it lol...

Sets an interesting precedent though, drive back past a crime scene immediately and its possible your similar make and model vehicle is not enough evidence to convict.... Could be interesting for the next drive by shooting victim...errr though they not normally alive for evidence giving,,,, but that bit about being focused on one thing then the number plate in next view, that's an out for a variety of road offences.

Wonder what sort of bike.... and no mention of left or right hand... just thinking about throttle control you know....

At lower speeds I used to be able to use the idle riser (faux choke) on the Hayabusa to set a speed of ~30-50kmph... makes lurching around car parks or down long road works far simpler than riding the clutch. Awsome for shaking cramp out of the throttle hand.

Or maybe he has one of these: http://www.fastbikegear.co.nz/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=485&products_id=6179

Or maybe there was a certain resident of both KB and the shore who used to like using a shoelace to tie off the throttle so he could impress girls by going past standing on the pegs without touching the bars?

The mechanics of the throttle part are the easy bit...

awa355
15th December 2014, 17:48
Should've gone to specsavers:weep::weep:

Bet she was blushing when telling her best friend about it " Really Agnes, it was this long, honest"

Swoop
15th December 2014, 18:07
Well, it rules out Honda riders due to the "witness" being female.
Hardley fergussons are out as well, due to being at substantial speed. OR... maybe the arseless trousers were allowing access to the knob! The plot thickens!

CSI KB will investimigate further!

Big Dog
15th December 2014, 18:07
Should've gone to specsavers:weep::weep:

Bet she was blushing when telling her best friend about it " Really Agnes, it was this long, honest"

Nearly had a stroke you say?

Robbo
15th December 2014, 18:16
Nearly had a stroke you say?


Yep but only cause she couldn't get close enough.:lol:

Maha
15th December 2014, 18:50
''Mrs M said the man rode past her coming within two to three metres.''

Must have been his first time..... and it was over, before it began.

skippa1
15th December 2014, 18:55
''Mrs M said the man rode past her coming within two to three metres.''

Must have been his first time..... and it was over, before it began.
Used to be able to shoot that far.....now its like a budgie being sick