Forget Sydney

[Paul in NZ]

What can you say about this slaughter in Pakistan...

Yes its a predictable reaction and plays right into the arms of the war hawks but at some point these fucking medievalists have got to be dealt to. Sure disagree all you want but burning female teachers alive in front of their students?? Shooting kids?

It was a revenge attack so goodness only knows what horrors preceded it but .....

sigh - people eh?

[R650R]

The trouble is over there with so many factions and warlords its hard to know whose responsible... we have to trust what the media tells us happened as we don't speak their language...

[Swoop]

The last bastion of talibanism is in North Waziristan. This sort of shit goes on regularly, but the peasants in NZ do no hear of it due to A) crap media & B) pointy ball shit filling up the "sound bite" news timespan.
Pakistan has a huge problem in that region due to internal corruption and a badlands' mentality about dealing with it.

[oneblackflag]

More Drone strikes should fix it.

[unstuck]

“What you resist, persists” C.G. Jung

Wise man that one.

[Akzle]

no lets not forget sydney.

http://www.irgamag.com/breaking-news/item/12459-solidarity-for-australian-muslims-after-sydney-siege

seems like the people want to declare peace.... despite the best efforts of the "leaders"


as for cameljockeys killing kids... aren't there still 200 girls missing, presumably sex slaves, since, like fucken ages ago? this shit happens ALL THE TIME, and y'all get righteous about posting boo-hoo-hoo about the latest thing reported.

this is one of the many problems with jew-run media/society's acceptance of it.
everything is temporary, the first news article is 30 thousand refugees displaced by israeli-usa bombing, next story is how some fucking rugby player has a sore ankle, all read in the same fucken breath, day in, day out.
these numbers mean nothing to anyone, no shit changes (except legislation, passed under urgency :facepalm: to control you white god-fearin' folk)

assholes. all of ya.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Some might say that its only real when it is next door and there are middle class white people involved.

My view on all these places is that the violence is self inflicted, driven by the collective mental illness that is religion, and unless and until these people decide to sort their shit out, its their problem. hundreds of years of western adventurism has not helped.

[unstuck]

Some might say that its only real when it is next door and there are middle class white people involved.

My view on all these places is that the violence is self inflicted, driven by the collective mental illness that is religion, and unless and until these people decide to sort their shit out, its their problem. hundreds of years of western adventurism has not helped.

Kind of agree, but am thinking it is more to do with the momentum of energy that has been building from centuries of disconnection from SOURCE energy/god.
Religion knows nothing of source energy/god.

[James Deuce]

Sydney wouldn't have happened if it wasn't Ok to sexually assault women.

[mashman]

A political act blamed as a religious attack, choice.

[oneblackflag]

A political act blamed as a religious attack, choice.

Religion is bad hmmmkay. Mental illness and so on and so forth. Please don't let facts/truths get in the way of a good yarn.

[Paul in NZ]

as for cameljockeys killing kids... aren't there still 200 girls missing, presumably sex slaves, since, like fucken ages ago? this shit happens ALL THE TIME, and y'all get righteous about posting boo-hoo-hoo about the latest thing reported.



What makes you think I've forgotten that..?

[Paul in NZ]

Sydney wouldn't have happened if it wasn't Ok to sexually assault women.

Repeatedly as well....

[oldrider]

no lets not forget sydney.

http://www.irgamag.com/breaking-news/item/12459-solidarity-for-australian-muslims-after-sydney-siege

seems like the people want to declare peace.... despite the best efforts of the "leaders"


as for cameljockeys killing kids... aren't there still 200 girls missing, presumably sex slaves, since, like fucken ages ago? this shit happens ALL THE TIME, and y'all get righteous about posting boo-hoo-hoo about the latest thing reported.

this is one of the many problems with jew-run media/society's acceptance of it.
everything is temporary, the first news article is 30 thousand refugees displaced by israeli-usa bombing, next story is how some fucking rugby player has a sore ankle, all read in the same fucken breath, day in, day out.
these numbers mean nothing to anyone, no shit changes (except legislation, passed under urgency :facepalm: to control you white god-fearin' folk)

assholes. all of ya.

Float like a butterfly - sting like a bee! ... Unfortunately they are already loaded to the gunwales with pre-scripted anti-venom! (they don't understand you!) :scratch:

[mashman]

Religion is bad hmmmkay. Mental illness and so on and so forth. Please don't let facts/truths get in the way of a good yarn.

But but but... okay, sorry :crybaby:

[mada]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja5Q75hf6QI

Sums up why the Taliban hasn't been defeated. Too many warlords, factions, corruption by proper authorities. Parts of Pakistan are no different or any better, otherwise Bin Laden wouldn't have hidden out there for so long with help of the locals and government.

A shocking tragedy what happened to those kids, but the truth is this shit has been happening all around the globe every day since we could throw spears - the only difference now is we have cameras at every location to film it and bring it to our attention - and these guys are the enemies. Something needs to be done, sure, but the what, when, and how remains questionable. All I know is the West and Ruski's should stay the fuck away from big bombing runs and interventions that create more recruits and extremists.

[SPman]

Robert Fisk..

Thus when stories spread of Pakistani military barbarity in the campaign against the Taliban in Pakistan – reports which included the execution of Taliban prisoners in Waziristan, whose bodies were left to lie upon the roads to be eaten by animals – the more certain became the revenge of the Taliban. The children of the military officers, educated at the army school just down the road from the famous Edwardes College in Peshawar – were the softest and most obvious of targets.

Just another episode in a viscious, nasty conflict fuelled by ideology and power....and CIA stirring....

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/peshawar-school-attack-massacre-of-the-innocents-born-of-ambivalence-towards-taliban-9929633.html

[James Deuce]

Robert Fisk..


Just another episode in a viscious, nasty conflict fuelled by ideology and power....and CIA stirring....

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/peshawar-school-attack-massacre-of-the-innocents-born-of-ambivalence-towards-taliban-9929633.html

Be careful quoting The Independent mate, it makes Tories and White Supremacists foam at the mouth. We don't need any more deaths.

[Swoop]

I would not say its crap media but more media too frightened as they risk getting attacked/death when reporting.
The NZ media can report it.
It IS reported via other sources and pathways, so NZ can report it without much as a risk of a paper cut.


NZ media is laughable and, as I state, is more concerned with pointy-ball shit and pathetically pointless stuff. Most of the proper NEWS from around the globe never makes it to our outlets (tv, print, etc).

[Swoop]

The problem of not enough international news being reported is ...

A myopic, insular and sycophantic view on things.
"Freedom of the press" is a concept lost on NZ journalism.

[Maha]

The NZ media can report it.
It IS reported via other sources and pathways, so NZ can report it without much as a risk of a paper cut.


NZ media is laughable and, as I state, is more concerned with pointy-ball shit and pathetically pointless stuff. Most of the proper NEWS from around the globe never makes it to our outlets (tv, print, etc).

Watch yourself, you'll attract the attention of Katman about some brain spasm shit.
I noted what they (NZ media) seemed more concerned about was? will the cricket go ahead.

[oneblackflag]

The problem of not enough international news being reported is that newspapers would have to be the size of phonebooks and who would want to pay for a phonebook size newspaper each day plus have time to read it? What is proper news to you could very well be real boring to many others too. The internet offers the solution to not enough news being reported here if you have all day to read all new international clips.

I think you'll find half an hour watching Aljazera or BBC World would suffice.

[Katman]

Here's an idea.... why doesn't Pakistan sort out the Taliban?

Or are we perhaps simply being fed stories in the hope we'll support future action in other people's shit that we should be keeping our fucking noses out of?

Who the fuck are we to tell people in other countries how they should govern themselves?

[yokel]

Here's an idea.... why doesn't Pakistan sort out the Taliban?

Or are we perhaps simply being fed stories in the hope we'll support future action in other people's shit that we should be keeping our fucking noses out of?

Who the fuck are we to tell people in other countries how they should govern themselves?

obviously not enough babies/children killed so need the US to get involved

[oneblackflag]

Here's an idea.... why doesn't Pakistan sort out the Taliban?

Or are we perhaps simply being fed stories in the hope we'll support future action in other people's shit that we should be keeping our fucking noses out of?

Who the fuck are we to tell people in other countries how they should govern themselves?

West is best God dam it!

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.....oop's where back to the Talitubbies now, aren't we....

[Akzle]

West is best God dam it!

in'sh'allah

[Akzle]

and +rep for all you hos. BJIAPUNNANI!

[Swoop]

Here's an idea.... why doesn't Pakistan sort out the Taliban?
They have had many feigned attempts to do just that. Team America - Fuck Yeah! have popped over the fence a few times to help out, but this seemed to be unappreciated.
"Too hard" in NW (really, the bribes and backroom shenanigans are too damn good for the average Pakistani to walk away from. Just like Afganistan. Durka Durka).

[mada]

They have had many feigned attempts to do just that. Team America - Fuck Yeah! have popped over the fence a few times to help out, but this seemed to be unappreciated.
"Too hard" in NW (really, the bribes and backroom shenanigans are too damn good for the average Pakistani to walk away from. Just like Afganistan. Durka Durka).

Doesn't help the Paki's have been funding and training Taliban for years and supported their rule in Afghanistan due to their rivalry with neighbour Iran.

Mid East is a fucking nightmare to resolve.:brick:

[Katman]

Mid East is a fucking nightmare to resolve.:brick:

Which is precisely why we should stay the fuck out of it.

It's none of our business.

[Ulsterkiwi]

Which is precisely why we should stay the fuck out of it.

It's none of our business.

True.

However the americans would say jihadists made it their business with a few overseas activities of their own. Its a bit of a chicken and egg thing, who fired first?

Rest of the world aside, do you think NZ should avoid all involvement unless NZ soil or citizens are directly attacked?

[Katman]

True.

However the americans would say jihadists made it their business with a few overseas activities of their own. Its a bit of a chicken and egg thing, who fired first?

Rest of the world aside, do you think NZ should avoid all involvement unless NZ soil or citizens are directly attacked?

America has been sticking their nose into other people's business on behalf of their Zionist overlords for decades.

Look at the shit it's created.

[Ulsterkiwi]

America has been sticking their nose into other people's business on behalf of their Zionist overlords for decades.

Look at the shit it's created.

Not arguing that its happened, the Zionist thing driving it? Not sure, but can see the reasons that explanation has more than a bit of traction. The links to Israel are VERY strong. I have a feeling there is a power and control agenda rather than a religious ideological one though.

Still, my question remains....

do you think NZ should avoid all involvement unless NZ soil or citizens are directly attacked?

[Katman]

Still, my question remains....

do you think NZ should avoid all involvement unless NZ soil or citizens are directly attacked?

If Australia or any of the near Pacific Islands were invaded I'd have very little problem with the idea of offering our support to them.

I certainly don't believe we should support any interference into the governance of countries further afield. Especially if the motives are of a questionable nature.

America would be one of the most war-mongering nations in the world. Personally, I think we should consider cutting all ties to them.

[James Deuce]

do you think NZ should avoid all involvement unless NZ soil or citizens are directly attacked?

Being "allied" to the US is very quickly becoming a zero-sum game. The net effect of the US on NZ has been incredibly negative.

Irrespective of that, 4.5 million people trying to prove they have balls as big as the rest of the world is just fucking stupidity. It gets substantial proportions of the population killed, wounded, and ruined for life and for what? 6 Californian lamb farmers can destroy NZ's lamb exports to the US. A bunch of wine growers in one US state can make it uneconomic to export wine to the US at the drop of a hat. Australia can shit on any trade agreement it wants to because someone found fireblight in a crate of apples more than 100 years ago. As a result, we now direct market our capital on the world's financial markets and allow corporates and individuals to buy the only asset a primary produce nation has.

Land.

[Ulsterkiwi]

If Australia or any of the near Pacific Islands were invaded I'd have very little problem with the idea of offering our support to them.

I certainly don't believe we should support any interference into the governance of countries further afield. Especially if the motives are of a questionable nature.

America would be one of the most war-mongering nations in the world. Personally, I think we should consider cutting all ties to them.

which Donkey would argue is economic suicide.......


Being "allied" to the US is very quickly becoming a zero-sum game. The net effect of the US on NZ has been incredibly negative.

Irrespective of that, 4.5 million people trying to prove they have balls as big as the rest of the world is just fucking stupidity. It gets substantial proportions of the population killed, wounded, and ruined for life and for what? 6 Californian lamb farmers can destroy NZ's lamb exports to the US. A bunch of wine growers in one US state can make it uneconomic to export wine to the US at the drop of a hat. Australia can shit on any trade agreement it wants to because someone found fireblight in a crate of apples more than 100 years ago. As a result, we now direct market our capital on the world's financial markets and allow corporates and individuals to buy the only asset a primary produce nation has.

Land.

and then JD explains the reality :eek:

So, we go into battle with China then, they either buy our stuff or own it already.

Politics is a messy business eh?

[oldrider]

Being "allied" to the US is very quickly becoming a zero-sum game. The net effect of the US on NZ has been incredibly negative.

Irrespective of that, 4.5 million people trying to prove they have balls as big as the rest of the world is just fucking stupidity. It gets substantial proportions of the population killed, wounded, and ruined for life and for what? 6 Californian lamb farmers can destroy NZ's lamb exports to the US. A bunch of wine growers in one US state can make it uneconomic to export wine to the US at the drop of a hat. Australia can shit on any trade agreement it wants to because someone found fireblight in a crate of apples more than 100 years ago. As a result, we now direct market our capital on the world's financial markets and allow corporates and individuals to buy the only asset a primary produce nation has.

Land.

True!

Goodbye New Freeland forever! :shit: (America? - do what I say not what I do!) . (Australia? - fuck off we don't need you spoiling our party!)

[Katman]

which Donkey would argue is economic suicide.......


Only if society continues to worship money and power.

Perhaps it's time we started looking for other priorities in life.

[James Deuce]

Only if society continues to worship money and power.

Perhaps it's time we started looking for other priorities in life.

I like my family. My dog is awesome. I have friends who lend me bikes. It doesn't get better. Most other things are a necessary evil.

[Katman]

Most other things are a necessary evil.

Hence why my business is never likely to make any great amount of money.

I refuse to play the game of measuring success by the amount of dollars in the bank.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Which is precisely why we should stay the fuck out of it.

It's none of our business.

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Its the only way to be sure

[HenryDorsetCase]

If Australia or any of the near Pacific Islands were invaded I'd have very little problem with the idea of offering our support to them.

I certainly don't believe we should support any interference into the governance of countries further afield. Especially if the motives are of a questionable nature.

America would be one of the most war-mongering nations in the world. Personally, I think we should consider cutting all ties to them.

Straya's biggest problem (appart from Tony Abbo) is Indonesia on its northern undefended border. :)

[oldrider]

Straya's biggest problem (appart from Tony Abbo) is Indonesia on its northern undefended border. :)

Not to forget a very young average age group in that country and sizable (by world standards) armed forces simply lacking stable organisation!

[Murray]

next story is how some fucking rugby player has a sore ankle

I've read the whole thread and nobody has said who this rugby player is. Please tell me, hope its not Ritchie??

[Voltaire]

Straya's biggest problem (appart from Tony Abbo) is Indonesia on its northern undefended border. :)


Does that mean the given half a chance Indonesia would invade Oz? or is that what the Aussies are told so they can spend up

large on military hardware? Modern day version of 'Reds under the bed"

Just watched a BBC series on the lead up to WW1
https://www.youtube.com

/watch?v=fXhiagFG8KE

Once the mechanisms of treaties got rolling events seemed to take a life of their own.

[Swoop]

Straya's biggest problem ... its northern undefended border. :)

How "un-defended" are we referring to here?
Certainly, it's a lot of real estate, but how much "military" is going on up there? Huh?


Answers on the back of a postcard please.

[Akzle]

What makes you think I've forgotten that..?

sorry, i missed your '200 girls still missing' thread...

Missed the '200 girls taken' in the first place, too.

[Paul in NZ]

sorry, i missed your '200 girls still missing' thread...

Missed the '200 girls taken' in the first place, too.

Yeah there was a post about that a while back - amazed you forgot about it, you are definitely slipping... Some old neighbours of mine live in that region and he has a job that involves finding things and solving 'problems'... We have some fairly sobering catch ups and gain some interesting insights...

To be fair - Even the Bonkers Boko Boss has said that kidnap is 'a old story'...

In a recent video, Shekau said the girls were "an old story," implying their release was no longer up for negotiation.

Somebody really needs to sort that guy out...

[Akzle]

Yeah there was a post about that a while back - amazed you forgot about it, you are definitely slipping... Some old neighbours of mine live in that region and he has a job that involves finding things and solving 'problems'... We have some fairly sobering catch ups and gain some interesting insights...

To be fair - Even the Bonkers Boko Boss has said that kidnap is 'a old story'...

In a recent video, Shekau said the girls were "an old story," implying their release was no longer up for negotiation.

Somebody really needs to sort that guy out...

haha. Boko. Better armed and more supported than the 'national' army.
Good luck with that one.

Somebody should do something!