View Full Version : Will there be a pre-2000 class sometime?
ARNIE
27th December 2014, 18:17
Just wondering what the general opinions are, With a pre 72, 82, 89 classes going will there be a place for a pre 200 class. I think there is probably alot of bikes that people would enjoy racing of that era and if you hadnt noticed time keeps on ticking
Akzle
27th December 2014, 18:49
probly about 2025. Assuming shit keeps tracking.
mr bucketracer
27th December 2014, 19:02
kind of already is the carb class , r1 or what every it is goes to 1998 -99 ?
Grumph
27th December 2014, 19:06
Just wondering what the general opinions are, With a pre 72, 82, 89 classes going will there be a place for a pre 200 class. I think there is probably alot of bikes that people would enjoy racing of that era and if you hadnt noticed time keeps on ticking
Trouble is, those dates - and pre 63 - aren't just arbitrarily pulled out of a hat....They represent dates of real change, both in the bikes that were raced and the way they were raced too. Convince me that a date say between 1994 and now has seen that sort of major change and I'll think about supporting a new class....maybe in 2025....
quickbuck
4th January 2015, 20:08
Just wondering what the general opinions are, With a pre 72, 82, 89 classes going will there be a place for a pre 200 class. I think there is probably alot of bikes that people would enjoy racing of that era and if you hadnt noticed time keeps on ticking
So long as your bike is a Carbie bike, you could always bring it down to the Manawatu and run in the Bridgestone Series.
We have a 1990's Carbie Class and have F1, F2 and F3 classes to run them in.
A heap of fun. There is 2 x NSR 300's 3 x CBR 600's and a ZX6R that regularly enter the F2 Field.
We are on the same grid as the bigger F1 bikes (GSXR1100's and GSXR750) and have awesome battles with them too....
Also in with the Pre 89's.. There isn't too much difference in speed really.... Might help if I actually tuned the engine and put on the 520 chain and..... and.... Well yup, could spend lots.
More are welcome of course....
The Nay Sayers have said that someone will just buy an R1 or R6 and clean up..... Well, I beg to differ, it was a Honda 1, 2 & 3 in F2 last year.. Somebody actually has to know how to ride what ever bike they bring along...
Yup, around 2025 the Post Classic Register might welcome us along ;)
mossy1200
4th January 2015, 20:19
The Nay Sayers have said that someone will just buy an R1 or R6 and clean up..... Well, I beg to differ, it was a Honda 1, 2 & 3 in F2 last year.. Somebody actually has to know how to ride what ever bike they bring along...
Hmmmmm 1998 carby r1.
Tempting.
quickbuck
4th January 2015, 21:08
Hmmmmm 1998 carby r1.
Tempting.
Bring it on Mossy, will be great to see you back....
mossy1200
4th January 2015, 21:35
Bring it on Mossy, will be great to see you back....
Wont happen. Home ownership and sack shrink is holding me back.
PS If I ever wanted to run my 1985 k100rs would I be able to run it pre89?
Its fuel injected. Fuel injection was stock in all bricks after 1983.
quickbuck
4th January 2015, 21:56
Wont happen. Home ownership and sack shrink is holding me back.
PS If I ever wanted to run my 1985 k100rs would I be able to run it pre89?
Its fuel injected. Fuel injection was stock in all bricks after 1983.
Yup, if you look at Chapter 25 Here:http://www.mnz.co.nz/regulations/rules it explains all....
FI is allowed if fitted as original.
90's Carbies is a Vic Club only class. Those were picked as it was a handy cut off....
I personally would have said Pre 96 as the GSXR 750T (1996) was the first bike to come out that was "powerful" yet as small as a 600 at the time....
Of course the Y model featured FI...
That said, good ol Honda still had steel frames and Carbs all the way to about 2000.
I digress, it seems to have caused confusion, as many people forget that you can run a FI Pre 89 bike still. It will be in the same championship as all the other Pre 89 bikes.
mossy1200
4th January 2015, 22:16
Yup, if you look at Chapter 25 Here:http://www.mnz.co.nz/regulations/rules it explains all....
FI is allowed if fitted as original.
90's Carbies is a Vic Club only class. Those were picked as it was a handy cut off....
I personally would have said Pre 96 as the GSXR 750T (1996) was the first bike to come out that was "powerful" yet as small as a 600 at the time....
Of course the Y model featured FI...
That said, good ol Honda still had steel frames and Carbs all the way to about 2000.
I digress, it seems to have caused confusion, as many people forget that you can run a FI Pre 89 bike still. It will be in the same championship as all the other Pre 89 bikes.
BSK speedworks run a 1985 k100 in England and have managed a healthy 125rwhp even shaft driven.
The weight on mine is so low it would be fun to race. Only issue would be gearing as they max rev doing 240kph. Might be a fraction slow but could be ok.
You can 17inch the wheels easy enough with k1100 wheels but would run a slight off centre rear wheel and would need use a 160 rear.
Wont be happening...
scracha
5th January 2015, 18:00
Wont happen. Home ownership and sack shrink is holding me back.
I thought sacks got bigger as you got older?
nzspokes
5th January 2015, 18:22
I thought sacks got bigger as you got older?
Lower, not bigger.
mossy1200
5th January 2015, 18:27
Lower, not bigger.
Maybe with old man cock shrink that's where the extra skin goes. South.
jellywrestler
6th January 2015, 15:14
Of course the Y model featured FI...
you mean like a 1982 kawasakai GPZ did too?
quickbuck
6th January 2015, 17:07
you mean like a 1982 kawasakai GPZ did too?
Not really my point, but yes, FI has of course been around for yonks...
My point was more that the last half of the 90's the majority of manufacturers started making bigger improvements on the models they released in 1990.
I will correct myself, it was in fact the V model SRAD GSXR that featured Fuel Injection. The Y's came out in 2000.
Autech
9th January 2015, 08:59
Pre 96' would make a lot of sense IMO. Would be a fun wee class to race in.
I'm starting in pre '89 soon and am looking forward to racing on and against bikes which are as old as me, something about the bikes from that era that has drawn me in since I started riding.
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