2015 Beemer

[AllanB]

The R-9T gives me wood.

2015 release has potential to start a twitch as well. Only a twitch because of the hideous muffler - but that can be retired easily.

Ah Lotto, maybe 2015 will be my year.

http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/reviews/2015-bmw-r1200r-first-ride-motorcycle-review?image=10

[Voltaire]

and its called an R nine T why....?
Oh...to cash in on the 70's ...silly me :laugh:
:puke:

[Hitcher]

Shame it's a BMW. Once they get their reliability and asymmetrical design issues sorted I may be tempted.

[ruaphu]

Yep farken cool bike.

and yep second ya on that shocker of a muffler set up, mess' up the whole flow of the bike


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[Ocean1]

Shame it's a BMW. Once they get their reliability and asymmetrical design issues sorted I may be tempted.

I dunno, they're about as reliable as most of the better Chinese made bikes. The reliability of the distributor, now...

And I reckon aesthetically they've gone downhill since the Rockster.

[AllanB]

and its called an R nine T why....?
Oh...to cash in on the 70's ...silly me :laugh:
:puke:

Correct - that model was a nod to the past. Not unlike the Bonnie, CB1000, Guzzi something, Harley, Harley, Harley, etc etc. Nostalgia market without the wobbly handling, crap brakes, reliability ......

Actually reliability issues were sorted in 1969 by Honda with the others getting on board or going under (Triumph, Norton, numerous Italians......)

[bsasuper]

BMW motorad have been very sneaky, everyone has been too busy looking at what the Japs/italians are doing, while they slip the best bikes on the market right in front of everybody's eyes.

[Voltaire]

Correct - that model was a nod to the past. Not unlike the Bonnie, CB1000, Guzzi something, Harley, Harley, Harley, etc etc. Nostalgia market without the wobbly handling, crap brakes, reliability ......

Actually reliability issues were sorted in 1969 by Honda with the others getting on board or going under (Triumph, Norton, numerous Italians......)

But I like wobbly handling, crap brakes, poor reliability....its what makes motorcycles fun, sold my Ducati ST4S as it was too nice.

Current project bike, thinking new shocks, scooping the stuff out of the forks and putting fluid in, new tyres, steering bearings with no notches, might make for a nice ride.:msn-wink:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/rednzep/IMAG2435_zps8818d1a2.jpg (http://s129.photobucket.com/user/rednzep/media/IMAG2435_zps8818d1a2.jpg.html)

[EJK]

The R-9T gives me wood.

2015 release has potential to start a twitch as well. Only a twitch because of the hideous muffler - but that can be retired easily.



BMW R1200RS

http://images.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/2015BMWR1200RS7.jpg

I approve.


P.S. Can the mods resize the photo to 500px width please? IMG SRC width="500" doesn't work in this thread.

[James Deuce]

BMW R1200RS

I approve.



Me too. Petrified wood in fact.

[GrayWolf]

BMW R1200RS


I approve. .


Yup, even I could be tempted by that.. it's one cool looking machine.

[AllanB]

BMW is interesting - they were set to dump the boxer engine decades back when they introduced the K series, but public demand would not hear of it (to be fair the BMW peeps of that era were die hard belstaff wearing BMWphilles unhappy with change).

Their IL4 and 6's are by all accounts superb but they continue to impress with updates and models in the twin range that satisfy the purists and invite new buyers. I'd have one on my shopping list.

[Voltaire]

BMW is interesting - they were set to dump the boxer engine decades back when they introduced the K series, but public demand would not hear of it (to be fair the BMW peeps of that era were die hard belstaff wearing BMWphilles unhappy with change).

Their IL4 and 6's are by all accounts superb but they continue to impress with updates and models in the twin range that satisfy the purists and invite new buyers. I'd have one on my shopping list.

Must get my Belstaff jacket out and re wax it :laugh:
I do like the new Enfield http://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/354929937.jpg
but then I like old shitters:bleh:

[EJK]

Yup, even I could be tempted by that.. it's one cool looking machine.

I'm waiting for a demo at the local dealer.

[98tls]

Bloody things even got my attention,so much so i wont allow the old girl to delete the senior race off the sky thingy.http://youtu.be/BM9eRkXCErI

[Voltaire]

I think the importers need to hunt down the first BMW R90s sold here in 1974 and give him a new R nine T.:woohoo:

[sidecar bob]

Check out the new S1000XR. For people that think an R1200GS is too slow. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-824954294.htm
I didn't see that one coming. :niceone:

[EJK]

Check out the new S1000XR. For people that think an R1200GS is too slow. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-824954294.htm
I didn't see that one coming. :niceone:

Ooh I LIKE! certainly a multistrada competitor.

[AllanB]

They are on a roll. For a adventure type bike that XR even looks OK physically. Most just turn me off - hey I'm a visual guy it's the way I am.

There was a guy in the States turning a 900 Hornet into one - had XR something front end etc etc.

I stood next to a fully kitted GS BMW the other day. The sales man must have thought I was keen (he mistook the dropping of my jaw in shock at it's size as desire) he changed his mind when I asked where the ladder was......... funny thing sales, see he gave up then, but in that situation I'd have steered me towards one of their smaller bikes for a perve or at least ask what I was interested in/rode etc - get the bike chat going.

[BMWST?]

BMW R1200RS

I approve.


P.S. Can the mods resize the photo to 500px width please? IMG SRC width="500" doesn't work in this thread.

i second your nomination

[AllanB]

Or he should have told you about the low seat option on those. For all brands of those bikes the seat height does limit their market unlike the dual purpose bikes from the late 70s/80s which were never a problem to get on.

Yeah - I was dismissed. Too short? To broke looking? Maybe I did not have that Beener air to me :msn-wink:


Hey - you'd think Honda would have got a bit shirty about the use of XR in the name.

[BMWST?]

They are on a roll. For a adventure type bike that XR even looks OK physically. Most just turn me off - hey I'm a visual guy it's the way I am.

There was a guy in the States turning a 900 Hornet into one - had XR something front end etc etc.

I stood next to a fully kitted GS BMW the other day. The sales man must have thought I was keen (he mistook the dropping of my jaw in shock at it's size as desire) he changed his mind when I asked where the ladder was......... funny thing sales, see he gave up then, but in that situation I'd have steered me towards one of their smaller bikes for a perve or at least ask what I was interested in/rode etc - get the bike chat going.

they are HUGE...I am 6 3 and rocked up one day to test ride a few BMWs .I had my r 100 gs and that seemed large when i first got on it,but those gs adventures are another level.They ride nicely enough but the visuals dont sorta match how they ride

[Motu]

you'd think Honda would have got a bit shirty about the use of XR in the name.

Honda didn't ask Harley. Where are the sensuous curves? All this angles and shit just looks nasty to me. Bikes are sexy, they should have curves.

[AllanB]

Honda didn't ask Harley. Where are the sensuous curves? All this angles and shit just looks nasty to me. Bikes are sexy, they should have curves.

Took me a while to get that one - XR1000 - fair point. Yeah I prefer curves on bikes.

[James Deuce]

XR750 is where it first appeared on a Harley Davidson in 1970. I think the first Honda XRs appeared in about 1980.

[mossy1200]

R1200S was the one bike I would most like to have back.

The r1200rs is something I would buy.

Does anyone want a zx14r with lotsa extras one lady owner 4.5ks.

EDIT: 28k Bit expensive. Ill pass.

[AllanB]

Compare the inlet/outlet on the heads on the picture above to the newest bike in my OP. Updating the old motor.

[mossy1200]

Compare the inlet/outlet on the heads on the picture above to the newest bike in my OP. Updating the old motor.

Power isn't up though. Mine had same hp figures.
It always felt like it had more than 125. Maybe it just had near that at any rev.

That OP pix is the r1200r? The r9T has wire wheels and single seat.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-816351564.htm

[98tls]

R1200S was the one bike I would most like to have back.

The r1200rs is something I would buy.

Does anyone want a zx14r with lotsa extras one lady owner 4.5ks.

EDIT: 28k Bit expensive. Ill pass.

$28k:laugh:that is ridiculous.

[James Deuce]

It is. I am unwooded.

[EJK]

$28k:laugh:that is ridiculous.

$28k for your ZX14?

[Ocean1]

I saw an R9T up at Wanganui the other day. I see they're $25k, a little less bang for the fewer bucks though...

But I liked it.

[mossy1200]

$28k for your ZX14?

Sold to the man wants pay almost twice what a bike realistically worth.

The r1200rs is 28k. That's the boxer I would buy if I had money and it was 6k cheaper.

[EJK]

Didn't realise the price release for the RS.

[AllanB]

Yep R nine T is the modern retro looker - 2014 release. WANT.

OP is a new 2015 release.

[mossy1200]

Didn't realise the price release for the RS.

They are on tardme but haven't confirmed the 28k yet. Its a 2 be advised(listed 28k) but based on the gs1200 and r1200r prices its going to be about 28k if you use the others as a trend as well.

[mossy1200]

Yep R nine T is the modern retro looker - 2014 release. WANT.

OP is a new 2015 release.

But its the r1200r in the OP pictures with different head design.
Im not sure there is a R-nine-T 2015 release at this stage.

Check this one with chunky tires.
Brooklyn Scrambler Edition.

Double seat. Now I want one.
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/only-6-bmw-r-ninet-brooklyn-scrambler-by-boxer-design-and-gant-rugger-available-photo-gallery-80743.html

[AllanB]

Gold spec ZX14r has been reduced for summer http://www.kawasaki.co.nz/catalog/streetbikes/supersports/ZX1400FEFB/overview

If you click that link check out the price of the H2.

Then again speaking $ it is all relative to what you like the R nine T is smack on the Grisso price http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-812252743.htm

A big block HD is $25 - 30K most models.

[AllanB]

But its the r1200r in the OP pictures with different head design.
Im not sure there is a R-nine-T 2015 release at this stage.

Check this one with chunky tires.
Brooklyn Scrambler Edition.

Double seat. Now I want one.
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/only-6-bmw-r-ninet-brooklyn-scrambler-by-boxer-design-and-gant-rugger-available-photo-gallery-80743.html

Shit that's cool.

[mossy1200]

Gold spec ZX14r has been reduced for summer http://www.kawasaki.co.nz/catalog/streetbikes/supersports/ZX1400FEFB/overview



That's why I think the value of mine even with all good bits would be about 15k.
Not worth me selling it anymore. Might as well run it for another 5 years to get value from it.
Harsh seeing it owes me about 32k but realistic.

I have a retro BMW anyway:msn-wink:
The BMW Mossy1000CR

[Gremlin]

Or he should have told you about the low seat option on those. For all brands of those bikes the seat height does limit their market unlike the dual purpose bikes from the late 70s/80s which were never a problem to get on.
The new liquid cooled R1200GS also has a from-factory low suspension option, so shorties have got a pretty good shot at handling one.

Any price with a 2 at the front is good stuff, the GS Adventure with options ticked struggles to stay much under $40k... On run out they were around $33k I think.

I really like the XR version, but 160hp? :laugh: No way can I have that much and stay out of trouble :sweatdrop On another note, congrats to BMW, they've figured out how to make symmetrical headlights :oi-grr:

[Ocean1]

Check this one with chunky tires.

I don't get that. Why would you make a pretend dirt bike that weighs 250kg? I can't even think of much of a historical link.


I have a retro BMW anyway:msn-wink:
The BMW Mossy1000CR

Which is a far better option. What HP is it currently?

[Ocean1]

The new liquid cooled R1200GS also has a from-factory low suspension option, so shorties have got a pretty good shot at handling one.

Any price with a 2 at the front is good stuff, the GS Adventure with options ticked struggles to stay much under $40k... On run out they were around $33k I think.

I really like the XR version, but 160hp? :laugh: No way can I have that much and stay out of trouble :sweatdrop On another note, congrats to BMW, they've figured out how to make symmetrical headlights :oi-grr:

I can't work out why they haven't made them with adjustable ride-height. A wee actuator in the linkage / forks is hardly expensive or technically difficult. Could organise it to drop 3" if in road mode and below 5kph...

But I likes the wonky headlights, particularly the Rockster's, it's a win for design functionality over anally retentive "fashion".

[Mike.Gayner]

and its called an R nine T why....?
Oh...to cash in on the 70's ...silly me :laugh:
:puke:

Oh fuck off honestly. Who gives a shit why it's called what it's called. It's a fucking good bike even if it's cashing in on nostalgia - guess what, that's what people want.

With your shitty attitude, apparent dislike of virtually everything and busy-body approach to over-safety, I often wonder why you are even here. Do you actually care about motorcycling? Or are you just a sad, lonely, pathetic negative-nancy?

[mossy1200]

Which is a far better option. What HP is it currently?

They were 90hp claimed with stock exhaust etc. That's likely 80hp

So idd say 80hp+ at rear wheel and breathing easy with new exhaust.
Stock they were 260kg and I would say I have pulled 60 or more off it in weight.

Goes very well with lots of torque. Very low first gear and 5 speed is only complaint.
Doesn't need be fast just fun to ride.

[sidecar bob]

Oh fuck off honestly. Who gives a shit why it's called what it's called. It's a fucking good bike even if it's cashing in on nostalgia - guess what, that's what people want.

With your shitty attitude, apparent dislike of virtually everything and busy-body approach to over-safety, I often wonder why you are even here. Do you actually care about motorcycling? Or are you just a sad, lonely, pathetic negative-nancy?

How much more wrong about a bloke could you possibly be? You're a bit of a tool yourself to be perfectly honest.

[Woodman]

Oh fuck off honestly. Who gives a shit why it's called what it's called. It's a fucking good bike even if it's cashing in on nostalgia - guess what, that's what people want.

With your shitty attitude, apparent dislike of virtually everything and busy-body approach to over-safety, I often wonder why you are even here. Do you actually care about motorcycling? Or are you just a sad, lonely, pathetic negative-nancy?


Do you need to try a new laxative?

[Gremlin]

I can't work out why they haven't made them with adjustable ride-height. A wee actuator in the linkage / forks is hardly expensive or technically difficult. Could organise it to drop 3" if in road mode and below 5kph...
GS has adjustable ride height in two ways already. Seat has two settings, and if fitted with ESA that also affects the rear ride height. Then you have other seats available...

[Ocean1]

GS has adjustable ride height in two ways already. Seat has two settings, and if fitted with ESA that also affects the rear ride height. Then you have other seats available...

I think I knew that, but I was proposing using the same actuators for an auto-squat function. For those afflicted with duck's disease.

[sidecar bob]

GS has adjustable ride height in two ways already. Seat has two settings, and if fitted with ESA that also affects the rear ride height. Then you have other seats available...

Your one would be an inch higher than mine out of the box being an A, but they're not difficult to ride for being tall.
They look worse than they are until you get on them, a bit like a Rocket 3 in a completely different way.

[Gremlin]

Dunno what the shorties could complain about :laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRFyw57o_Ic
(bah, can't seem to embed)

Yep, once on the move, they have excellent handling, weight down low etc. I can do around 8-10kph, uphill, 2up before I'm reaching for the clutch to control...

[sidecar bob]

Dunno what the shorties could complain about :laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRFyw57o_Ic
(bah, can't seem to embed)

Yep, once on the move, they have excellent handling, weight down low etc. I can do around 8-10kph, uphill, 2up before I'm reaching for the clutch to control...

That is style in the extreme. Almost wish I was short so I could perfect that technique.

[Ocean1]

Yep, once on the move, they have excellent handling, weight down low etc. I can do around 8-10kph, uphill, 2up before I'm reaching for the clutch to control...

Aye, I've done a fair few Ks on an A, but you miss the point: There doesn't have to be a pressing need for an engineer to "improve" shit.

[AllanB]

Off road skills?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btRvVLA0KzM

[haydes55]

This video is more relevant https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tjnTNOlKy-M

Yes it's the mobile link, I'm on my phone.

[JimmyC]

I stood next to a fully kitted GS BMW the other day. The sales man must have thought I was keen (he mistook the dropping of my jaw in shock at it's size as desire) he changed his mind when I asked where the ladder was......... funny thing sales, see he gave up then, but in that situation I'd have steered me towards one of their smaller bikes for a perve or at least ask what I was interested in/rode etc - get the bike chat going.

BMW dealers are a strange breed by my findings... I'd just attended the GS Experience run over in Melbourne and decided to go see the dealer in the CBD that had put the event on. I explained I'd been to the event and started talking about the bikes I'd ridden. After only 2 minutes he was looking at other staff whilst I was talking to him, and any input from him became limited to 2 or 3 words. Indeed I had been dismissed.

I went and chatted with another BMW dealer in the upper Nth Island over Christmas (one that I won't name) as I'm planning on moving to the region this year. Asked about planned rides, places to ride off road etc... What I got was how hard is to do bike events in the weekend and run a store, that bikes 24x7 is extremely tiring and he finds it really tough... !? I left feeling decidedly flat and tired myself.

OTOH I test rode an F800GS from Motomart in Lower Hutt late last year and that couldn't have gone better. 1 out of 3 ain't bad I guess.

When it comes to riding though, their bigger 1200 bikes seem to be reverse engineered with Tardis componentry. The do appear huge on the outside but disappear once moving... weird.

[awa355]

BMW dealers are a strange breed by my findings... I'd just attended the GS Experience run over in Melbourne and decided to go see the dealer in the CBD that had put the event on. I explained I'd been to the event and started talking about the bikes I'd ridden. After only 2 minutes he was looking at other staff whilst I was talking to him, and any input from him became limited to 2 or 3 words. Indeed I had been dismissed.

I went and chatted with another BMW dealer in the upper Nth Island over Christmas (one that I won't name) as I'm planning on moving to the region this year. Asked about planned rides, places to ride off road etc... What I got was how hard is to do bike events in the weekend and run a store, that bikes 24x7 is extremely tiring and he finds it really tough... !? I left feeling decidedly flat and tired myself..

Haven't got that on your own. Pulled up outside the Hamilton BMW/Ducati dealer a week or two back, never got a "Hello, how can I help". Two salespeople stayed at their desks. After a few minutes I got the distinct impression that I was cluttering up their show room floor and left. Went across the road to Boyds Suzuki and talked bikes with them for a good 1/2hr. I'm going back there next week to have a serious look at a bike.

[sidecar bob]

Haven't got that on your own. Pulled up outside the Hamilton BMW/Ducati dealer a week or two back, never got a "Hello, how can I help". Two salespeople stayed at their desks. After a few minutes I got the distinct impression that I was cluttering up their show room floor and left. Went across the road to Boyds Suzuki and talked bikes with them for a good 1/2hr. I'm going back there next week to have a serious look at a bike.

Boyds are BMW Suzuki & KTM, but not sure who this BMW Ducati outfit is.
I have never experienced better or more personable service from such a happy & involved team of enthusiasts as what I got at Boyds. I doubt there would be a better place in NZ to buy a new BMW.

[BMWST?]

in my experience all bmw bike dealers have been good. i dont mind wandering around a shop looking if no one comes up to me,i find as soon as i start looking for them they notice.They prolly have more people "looking" than others??

[mintpaul]

Hi Gents,


What would be the on road fees be for a $29000 bike?

Looking at 2015 s1000rr when I relocate to NZ

[rocketman1]

Shame it's a BMW. Once they get their reliability and asymmetrical design issues sorted I may be tempted.

What alot of crap.

[rocketman1]

One of the best looking new bikes i have seen for along time.
No wonder they are selling like hot cakes in europe, great success story for BMW

[Jezxa]

Hi Gents,


What would be the on road fees be for a $29000 bike?

Looking at 2015 s1000rr when I relocate to NZ

$495, I believe its the same for any bike regardless of value.

[nerrrd]

New 'Scrambler' version coming.

http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/750x422/quality/95/http://www.blogcdn.com/slideshows/images/slides/370/713/4/S3707134/slug/l/p90202971-highres-1.jpg

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/11/17/bmw-r-ninet-scrambler-eicma-video/