Electrified tank bags

[Gremlin]

List your experiences please, I'm thinking of getting one. Will want to power a few accessories, so a powerlet lead or such like would be used.

Looked at Touratech NZ, uh, around $500 seems a tad pricey. Givi now has tanklock, the XS308 seems it would suit my curved tank on the GSA. RKA seems like another good option...

I don't have to have the locking system with ring etc, straps would be OK, not going to be using this all the time, just when I can't use the other luggage on the rear.

Waterproof (or close to it) is important as fumbling with a rain cover is cumbersome.

[mossy1200]

Givi now has tanklock, the XS308 seems it would suit my curved tank on the GSA. RKA seems like another good option...




I have a Givi fuel cap ring system that works well for me.
I have the small hard luggage bag but the ring will support the larger tank bags if required.
Mine seems to be 100% water tight from the times its been caught in showers.
Really good for wallet, phone, sunglasses, keys and small items then I add gloves when stop and click and carry with the front handle like its a Honda clutch purse.
I think there is a 12volt bag set in the same style.
Idd wire a usb style plug on the bike and seta lead to the bag if I wanted power in it I guess.

[BlackSheepLogic]

I have a Givi fuel cap ring system that works well for me. I have the small hard luggage bag but the ring will support the larger tank bags if required.

I also have the same Givi system. I used a Powerlet Luggage Connector which when installed correctly is water proof.
http://www.ramsolutions.co.nz/lifestyle/shop/powerlet/luggage-electrix-connector

Since my bike did not have an accessory socket I also had to add a Powerlet socket to my bike (easy enough). This provides a SAE connector inside the tank bag.

[mossy1200]

I also have the same Givi system. I used a Powerlet Luggage Connector which when installed correctly is water proof.
http://www.ramsolutions.co.nz/lifestyle/shop/powerlet/luggage-electrix-connector

Since my bike did not have an accessory socket I also had to add a Powerlet socket to my bike (easy enough). This provides a SAE connector inside the tank bag.

They look good. $49 I might get one soon.
I was tempted to hard wire a lockbox on the trailer for electronics but never got around to it.
The trailer jack has a few extra pins.

[Ocean1]

I have a Givi fuel cap ring system that works well for me.
I have the small hard luggage bag but the ring will support the larger tank bags if required.
Mine seems to be 100% water tight from the times its been caught in showers.
Really good for wallet, phone, sunglasses, keys and small items then I add gloves when stop and click and carry with the front handle like its a Honda clutch purse.
I think there is a 12volt bag set in the same style.
Idd wire a usb style plug on the bike and seta lead to the bag if I wanted power in it I guess.

Where did you get the Givi tank bag dude?

I assume it'd do duty as a tail bag? Looking for something for the back if the 1290.

[mossy1200]

Where did you get the Givi tank bag dude?

I assume it'd do duty as a tail bag? Looking for something for the back if the 1290.h

Don't think it would. Its a givi petrol cap ring lock system that the mount stays on the bike the whole time (screwed onto the tank cap outer ring).

TSS have the system and 3 bag options in stock.
Theres different mounts for each brand bike to suit the cap screw locations.

This is only shot I have with just the ring on sorry its not close up.

[Ocean1]

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Don't think it would. Its a givi petrol cap ring lock system that the mount stays on the bike the whole time (screwed onto the tank cap outer ring).

TSS have the system and 3 bag options in stock.
Theres different mounts for each brand bike to suit the cap screw locations.

This is only shot I have with just the ring on sorry its not close up.

OK, cheers, might just have to pay TSS a visit...

[mossy1200]

OK, cheers, might just have to pay TSS a visit...

Its possible they sell a strap kit mount for tails and then bag clicks to that.
Tell you what would be good would be if you found a second hand rear seat or cowl then mounted the ring system to it.

Last time I was at TSS they had all three bag types and ring sets for several bike brands.

[Gremlin]

Where did you get the Givi tank bag dude?

I assume it'd do duty as a tail bag? Looking for something for the back if the 1290.
Some of the Givi/Oxford bags are tank n tailers, two different bases, or such like. Depending on your tail, a normal strap type bag probably works best, just make sure the straps won't eat the plastics by rubbing, and you need tie down points for the bag. I've got an X40 Oxford I think, but not waterproof.

Other option as Mossy says, get another seat/tail cowl and bolt luggage to it.

Cheers guys, looks like Givi is a goer. Wiring the electrics is no problem, but the bag needs to be setup to run wiring through it, unless you're cutting holes in it.

[mossy1200]

Some of the Givi/Oxford bags are tank n tailers, two different bases, or such like. Depending on your tail, a normal strap type bag probably works best, just make sure the straps won't eat the plastics by rubbing, and you need tie down points for the bag. I've got an X40 Oxford I think, but not waterproof.

Other option as Mossy says, get another seat/tail cowl and bolt luggage to it.

Cheers guys, looks like Givi is a goer. Wiring the electrics is no problem, but the bag needs to be setup to run wiring through it, unless you're cutting holes in it.

The link in post 3 for $49 looks a good option to do a permanent adaption port which is waterproof.

[BlackSheepLogic]

Cheers guys, looks like Givi is a goer. Wiring the electrics is no problem, but the bag needs to be setup to run wiring through it, unless you're cutting holes in it.

I used a soldering iron to make the holes in the bag. The ring which comes with the luggage connector can be used as a template for doing this. I add silicone under the connector which is recommended.

I've used this system on two tank bags which I've used over the last six months and never had any water leakage issues in the bag (I ride rain or shine). Nice to have the bags with the connector installed but they are more expensive than this set-up which works really well. Really recommend this alternative.

Also, Gremlin, you might find my USB charger review/comparison helpful if you want to have small electronics in the tank bag. The MOKI MUSBCB has been great for powering USB devices. Very reliable and dual independent ports. No issues with it at all holding up in the tank bag.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/171365-12V-DC-DC-USB-chargers

[Waihou Thumper]

I also have the same Givi system. I used a Powerlet Luggage Connector which when installed correctly is water proof.
http://www.ramsolutions.co.nz/lifestyle/shop/powerlet/luggage-electrix-connector

Since my bike did not have an accessory socket I also had to add a Powerlet socket to my bike (easy enough). This provides a SAE connector inside the tank bag.

That doesn't come with the Powerlet to the battery lead though right?
Where do you source that one? Fused to the battery?

[BlackSheepLogic]

That doesn't come with the Powerlet to the battery lead though right?
Where do you source that one? Fused to the battery?

No, that is just the luggage adapter/connector that transfers power from the outside of the tank bag to inside. If your bike does not have an accessory socket or you need SAE cables/plugs you can get them from here: http://www.ramsolutions.co.nz/lifestyle/shop/motorcycles/powerlet

I also did a short review of the powerlet products I used on my Busa which would be a good starting point if you want to add accessory power to your bike.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/170605-Powerlet

[BMWST?]

So the std powerlet socket is different to a cigarette lighter socket.?I remember years ago when i bought my k 100 rs being impressed at the little socket but never using it as i had got heated grips (wow) when i bought the bike.
It seems that the basic connections are powerlet or sae?
Is powerlet a proprietary system or is there some other std that (say came on BMW bikes) powerlet is a development of?

Edit the std din connector (http://www.europaspares.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=1420100) is the basis for the powerlet socket n plugs .

[BlackSheepLogic]

When I was looking into adding an accessory socket Powerlet seemed to be the most used and a number of bike brands(BMW for example) use Powerlet plugs & connectors so there is a lot of compatible accessories. I also think the plug is covered by an industry standard bu I don't have that link handy at the moment.

One significant plus of using these sockets over a standard lighter socket is that they are designed to prevent water ingress. My experience in the rain has been good in that regard. Inside the tank bag I use a SAE cable that has a 12V standard lighter socket.


Everything except the socket on the bike uses SAE cables which I needed as the location where I mounter the socket it exposed (I only needed one weather proof Powerlet socket). It's a lot easier to mount the Powerlet socket on the bike than somehow mounting a SAE plug in weather proof location. Likewise a standard 12V lighter socket would also need to be mounter in a weather proof location.

I've attached a pic of the socket on my bike.





So the std powerlet socket is different to a cigarette lighter socket.?I remember years ago when i bought my k 100 rs being impressed at the little socket but never using it as i had got heated grips (wow) when i bought the bike.
It seems that the basic connections are powerlet or sae?
Is powerlet a proprietary system or is there some other std that (say came on BMW bikes) powerlet is a development of?

Edit the std din connector (http://www.europaspares.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=1420100) is the basis for the powerlet socket n plugs .

[BMWST?]

When I was looking into adding an accessory socket Powerlet seemed to be the most used and a number of bike brands(BMW for example) use Powerlet plugs & connectors so there is a lot of compatible accessories. I also think the plug is covered by an industry standard bu I don't have that link handy at the moment.

One significant plus of using these sockets over a standard lighter socket is that they are designed to prevent water ingress. My experience in the rain has been good in that regard. Inside the tank bag I use a SAE cable that has a 12V standard lighter socket.


Everything except the socket on the bike uses SAE cables which I needed as the location where I mounter the socket it exposed (I only needed one weather proof Powerlet socket). It's a lot easier to mount the Powerlet socket on the bike than somehow mounting a SAE plug in weather proof location. Likewise a standard 12V lighter socket would also need to be mounter in a weather proof location.

I've attached a pic of the socket on my bike.

yes thanks for that the powerlet is actually compatible to DIN single pole plug as per the link in my edit.I am gonna use some of them in my 4wd as they are more secure than cig sockets

ps you need to rotate the socket a bit so the pin aligns with the panel gap :)

[Gremlin]

Just a brief update, I bought the Givi XS308 bag (suited to steeply sloping tanks) and Revzilla got it here in 6 days from start of shipping :2thumbsup

Mounting is straight forward (although provided instructions are limited). Use an adapter ring suited to your bike, replace the standard surround, drop bag onto ring. Clearance with bars is a headache though, I know why I tried to avoid one for so long. It fouls accessories on both sides of the bars, but I've removed some to give most of my steering lock back.

Haven't done anything on the electrification part, that's all future proofing type stuff, I can see the outlet in the bag front centre, will think about wiring stuff later.