Radar Detectors - Who has them

[Mattyc]

Thinking about putting a radar detector on the zx9r, has anyone done this ? What detectors have been used ?

Have you had to get custom mount for them? Ive seen a chap with a gixxer 1k and a nice valentine sitting on a pedastal tucked under the blade. this is looking like a good option to me, any other possbile mounting points ?

Cheers

[Jonty]

Do a search, there are heaps of threads here on radars (and jammers). You will find radar direct have mounts that fit most modern bikes and most people find the Escort is a good bike radar :ride:

[madboy]

I've got an old Valentine 1, does the business as well as any detector does. But I don't bother running it on the bike, just leave it for the car. Quite a few people have them in a similar setup to the gixxer you mentioned. Someone posted what models are best for the earpiece thingeys. I don't think it was V1.

[Lou Girardin]

All the high end detectors are excellent. Valentine is best (but I would say that).]
Contact discountbay, Ryan is a good guy and does great deals. He has mounts too. Or you could contact Pixie for a custom mount and helmet speaker set-up.

[Blackbird]

This is probably the type of mount you're talking about. As well as a search on detectors, do one on screamers too (sound-boosting aid for high speed as an alternative to a helmet speaker or visual alarm.

[Mattyc]

hmm they take up a lot of room dont they... I like the idea of the screamer, as the earpeice bit doesnt appeal to me at all, i didnt really like the idea of blocking out any guages

[**R1**]

I just found it was a waste of time and money, it was ok around town if ya wanted to do a wheelie away from lights and stuff it would let you know if there were any coppers around, and it did work once on the open road, it was a Bell and very expensive, and had a good range and didnt go off at shit around town, but with the coppers having instant on radar and shit it just didnt give me the securaty i wanted( i dont think anything other than the speed limit can) so i dont bother with the detector now, and i dont bother stopping either...

[froggyfrenchman]

Dont have one yet, but after payn the latest ticket yesterday, think ill go find 1

[Holy Roller]

My Cobra I got off Trade Me it has an earpiece jack for $189, though i have yet to get a earpiece but so far have not needed one. Not that I ride at excessive speeds these days. Going to the Cold Kiwi I picked up a cop on the radar unit at the summit of the Desert Rd but the cop was 6 kms down the road already writting out a ticket to a cage I was somewhat impressed with that. I find that the screen helps in hearing the unit go off somehow, directing the sound back towards me. Though I did contribute to the government fund one morning going to work and what do you know... the one morning I forgot to hook up the unit 12kph over and $120

National had better get in this time and stay true to their word about low end speeding. :wait:

[Drunken Monkey]

... it was a Bell and very expensive, and had a good range and didnt go off at shit around town, ....

Bels are expensive, but if our experience is anything to go by, not necessarily good.
Quasi and I put our radar detectors to the big test on the way down to Manfield earlier this year: His Bel vs my Escort.
My Escort would bleep away.
Quasi would call "haha False alarm, sucker!"
We'd see a cop a few seconds later
His would go off a few seconds more later
I would say "haha, you would've been busted, loser!"

V-1 or Escort are the ones to get.

[scooterboynz]

i got a escourt 8500 , comes with ear plug ,got it from www.radarbusters.com , dont know how i can ride with out one now , cops might have the "instant lock" feature buts its good to know if you have been caught , if you should do a runner or not!

[Warr]

Surprised no-one has mentioned Ryan



Got my Escort for ~$500 through Ryan Gounder at DiscountBay (info@discountbay.co.nz).


And I did the same

[Blackbird]

Nobody seems to have been able to track him down recently. I have a mate whi is all lined up to buy one and he's apparently not responding to messages. Any idea?

Geoff

[Warr]

Nobody seems to have been able to track him down recently. I have a mate whi is all lined up to buy one and he's apparently not responding to messages. Any idea?

Geoff
Oh.. hadnt realised & I see what you mean. Perhaps the Tax man is onto him and he has gone to ground....
I just looked up his nimber and rang it and its not in service.
Anyone in Palmerston North know of him??
Gounder R
1100 A Kairanga Bunnythorpe Rd Kairanga Palmerston North 0-6-329 0099

[Mattyc]

is this the same guy

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Radar-detectors/auction-35562530.htm

carterton ?

[Warr]

is this the same guy

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Radar-detectors/auction-35562530.htm

carterton ?
Does look like it and the prices of his last trade are right. Looks like he is still trading there, so ask him a question or 2 and go from there. :)

[R1madness]

Ryan at discount bay ltd is a great guy. HE gave me excellent service and good prices. His mounts are top notch the wiring kits are complete to the last bit and he ships rapidly. What more could you ask.

[Lou Girardin]

Bels are expensive, but if our experience is anything to go by, not necessarily good.
Quasi and I put our radar detectors to the big test on the way down to Manfield earlier this year: His Bel vs my Escort.
My Escort would bleep away.
Quasi would call "haha False alarm, sucker!"
We'd see a cop a few seconds later
His would go off a few seconds more later
I would say "haha, you would've been busted, loser!"

V-1 or Escort are the ones to get.

Escort and BEL have the same guts in a different case. Must have been another reason for the non-performance.

[Lou Girardin]

Surprised no-one has mentioned Ryan



And I did the same

Read again.

I updated my Valentine from Ryan 2 months ago. He's stll going and is all legal business wise. Don't know what's up with missed messages though.

[nadroj]

I'm running Valentine 1 on home made pedestal mounted in steering stem. V1 is secured with rubber bands (cheep & takes vibrations out) - pm me for explanation if interested. Remote earpiece consists of a piece of clear plastic tubing secured to sounder side of V1 near the speaker with the other end tucked up inside helmet just in front of ear. Stays secure in helmet and works suprizingly well ( piped music to the ear when it goes off).

[Hammer]

Nobody seems to have been able to track him down recently. I have a mate whi is all lined up to buy one and he's apparently not responding to messages. Any idea?

Geoff

I sent him a PM lat last week and hes responded to it Saturday so he is about. Might be best to call him as he does not get to them as quick as he once did. Contact details are as follows:

Phone: 021 685 003
A/H 06 354 6 444
Fax: 06 354 6 445
Website: http://www.cartertonryan.co.nz
Postal: PO Box 4185, Manawatu Mail Centre, Palmerston North

[RiderInBlack]

I sent him a PM lat last week and hes responded to it Saturday so he is about. Might be best to call him as he does not get to them as quick as he once did.Too fu*ken late. Rynn should have returned my PM's (saw he had read them). Ended up picking up an Excort 8500 X50 from Hoi Chui (Wonn) radar2go@gmail.com (radar2go@gmail.com) for $459 using TradeMe. She looked after me well and was a lot cheaper than Rynn (who is over $500 for the Escort now).

[Drunken Monkey]

Escort and BEL have the same guts in a different case. Must have been another reason for the non-performance.

The Valentine-One rep was down at my mate's store topping up the stock a couple of weeks back. Now he said the internals of the V-1 and Escort were the same, the only difference was the V-1 had the directional (front/rear) indicator.

Now who's right?

[VasalineWarrior]

Yep, got a valentine one too. Made by the same guy who invented the escorts (i think), and although it was expensive it has actually saved me money and demerit points. There's also the peace of mind factor, which is great (i can do 120 without continously looking behind me).
I'd suggest getting an LED transmitter as well though. Its a little box thats sits on your radar and sends a wireless signal to a flashing red light in the in the visor of your helmet. Saves having to use an earpiece (a big hassle for me), but cost is around 3-400 extra. Hope that helps!

[Stevo]

A while back I looked around at jammers and detectors and HARD systems but couldn't afford it. I lose some demerits soon. Then I can afford to get caught again but will also look at some assistance to not getting caught. In the last 12 months I have had 3 tickets none for faster than 116. That gets right up me. Esp when I see (regularly) someone way exceeding a speed limit in my 50km/h neighbourhood. Grrrrrrrr

[Lou Girardin]

The Valentine-One rep was down at my mate's store topping up the stock a couple of weeks back. Now he said the internals of the V-1 and Escort were the same, the only difference was the V-1 had the directional (front/rear) indicator.

Now who's right?

That is totally wrong, Mike Valentine worked for Escort so some components are similar but there is no way they use all the same bits. The twin antennas alone require very different processors.
It's Bel and Escort that are the same company.
Besides, there is no Valentine rep in NZ. Valentine only sell to Radar Direct. All the others are grey imports.

[RiderInBlack]

The Escort X50 has front and back facing detectors as well. I'm thanking that it would be better if you could attach the rear facing one on the back of the bike but (to bad it's part of the detector housing.

[Lou Girardin]

The Escort X50 has front and back facing detectors as well. I'm thanking that it would be better if you could attach the rear facing one on the back of the bike but (to bad it's part of the detector housing.

Escort has front and rear laser sensors but only Valentine has front and rear radar antennas as well.

[inlinefour]

but they are not a fool proof way of avoiding the law

[Youngjim]

I have an Escort X50 and have been very happy with it and only have the KA and Laser bands turned on.
However over the last few weeks the laser band has been going off for no apparent reason both in the car and on the bike, even miles away from anywhere.
Has anyone else had this problem or do I need to get it checked out and if so where is the best place to take it.

Cheers

[Lou Girardin]

but they are not a fool proof way of avoiding the law

True. Fools will always get caught.

[Lou Girardin]

Laser will trigger sometimes. If it's looking through a screen, refraction can cause it to alert. Raindrops do it to mine sometimes as well.

[RiderInBlack]

Laser will trigger sometimes. If it's looking through a screen, refraction can cause it to alert. Raindrops do it to mine sometimes as well.One of the electronic components has come loose in mine (Getting it replaced Saturday), which I'm sure is causing the laser alarm to trigger.

[Youngjim]

Who is fixing it for you or is it under guarantee ?
I got mine from the States some time ago and don't want to send it back if I can get it fixed here.

[Warr]

I have an Escort X50 and have been very happy with it and only have the KA and Laser bands turned on.
However over the last few weeks the laser band has been going off for no apparent reason both in the car and on the bike, even miles away from anywhere.
Has anyone else had this problem or do I need to get it checked out and if so where is the best place to take it.

Cheers
Programmed Ka only like yourself. No Laser action except for the real thing. Mr Plod was on the Bombays targeting northbound traffic just before the plant place. Escort started making noises I hadnt heard it make before. Was in a car that struggles to go up there at 110k's in top gear so no problem.

[RiderInBlack]

Who is fixing it for you or is it under guarantee ?
I got mine from the States some time ago and don't want to send it back if I can get it fixed here.Under Guarantee (only had it for 2 weeks). Radar 2Go is swaping it for a new one (sweet). She's awesome is that one:2thumbsup

[Timber020]

had my escort for 2 weeks, I have done a about 500kms since getting it and havent seen a single cop! Picks up the supermarkets sweet as though.

[Youngjim]

Sounds like you need to disable the X band and K band as they are not now used in NZ and then you will get no false alarms from supermarket doors etc.
The only bands you want operating are KA and Laser.

[Warr]

Need the windscreen clip with suction cups for my Escort X50. Who can I get one from ????

[Biff]

http://www.flashcards.co.nz/catalog/index.php?cPath=71

Are doing some good deals on radar detectors at the mo'.

[Warr]

Thanks Biff, Have sent them an email to see if they can supply :)

[What?]

Flashcards are excellent to deal with. Get your order in by 4pm and you will normally have the goods the next day. Their after-sales service is tops, too.

[Jonty]

Anyone got an opinion on these battery powered ones?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=40682100

[Warr]

No help there Biff

Need the windscreen clip with suction cups for my Escort X50. Who can I get one from ????

Repled as follows

I am sorry, we do not sell those parts separately, only the complete
retail package.

Kind Regards,

Jason Greenwood
Anyone else know who could supply

[What?]

Anyone got an opinion on these battery powered ones?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=40682100
Apparently they have a prodigious appetite for batteries.

[saul]

No help there Biff


Repled as follows

Anyone else know who could supply

Mate I can lend you one till you get yourself sorted.

I mostly use my escort on the bike.

If you would like to use it PM your address:blip:

[Warr]

Mate I can lend you one till you get yourself sorted.

I mostly use my escort on the bike.

If you would like to use it PM your address:blip:
Thanks Saul for the offer, I have ended up making one. Not sure if it will go beyond proto-type #1, Have intentions of a pad & velcrove?? . Was just surprised that no-one wanted to sell one.
So whatever happens I wont be stuck from using it !
Thanks again for the offer :)

[saul]

Thanks Saul for the offer, I have ended up making one. Not sure if it will go beyond proto-type #1, Have intentions of a pad & velcrove?? . Was just surprised that no-one wanted to sell one.
So whatever happens I wont be stuck from using it !
Thanks again for the offer :)

No sweat mate.

When I had a crappy old uniden I had to get one for some reason:bash:

It cost me $20.00 I think.

I wonder if they are the same size? I think that they look similar.

Why don't you pop into Repco with your unit and see if one will fit:blip:

Just a ramble and a thought:blip:

[What?]

I made up a wedge-shaped perspex thing for my ute - Escort attaches to it with velcro, and the wedgything is velco'd to the dash. Unlike suction cups, it doesn't fall off.

[texmo]

So many threads on this stuff I have asked people if they work 1/2 say yes 1/2 say no, was told by someone they were doing 260 when the screamer went off grab a fist full a brakes and slowed down in time for a cop in a HP car... Fact or Fiction? I would like to get one as just a few tickest and good bye licence....

[Lou Girardin]

They dont really work that well to be honest, most cops using a radar use passive scanning, in that they only turn it on when they see cars, by that time your stuffed. The radar can be turned on without transmitting, and the detectors only detect when it is transmitting.They are only good if its out on a country road and a cop is sitting there with it switched on stationary all the time reading the paper or something. The only other time is if the cop has turned it on to scan someone further down the road before they get to you, and you pick it up.

It works for me.
But then I obey the golden rule, first in line gets the fine.
Last weekend Auck - Welly- Auck. Me 3, Cops nil. Evens 1.

[texmo]

Ok then let me refrase my question is it worth getting a detector for $900?

[Zapf]

Ok then let me refrase my question is it worth getting a detector for $900?

Yes... the V1 is the best detector you can get. But what you need to do is learn not to think the V1 is going to save your ass. And know when you can use the V1 to its advantage and when not. E.g on a wide open road with no cars ... the cop can probly see your headlight and so can the radar see you... in that place you have no decoy to hide behind or use as radar bait. So you know u have a higher risk and not speed as much.

... etc ... etc and develop your theories from there.

And yes... if you clearely the fastest object on the road and you are Instant ONed... then you are OWNED....

Quote from V1
The World as it Really Is
Probably you’ve noticed that many other detectors create false alarms that set off your detector. Hundreds of thousands of badly engineered detectors from BEL®, Cobra®, Radio Shack® and Uniden® spew local oscillator harmonics that are very similar in character to the POP burst used by MPH Industries. Ordinary detectors aren’t clever enough to reliably distinguish between them.

its true.. you detect every frikken stupid Uniden's out there.

[RiderInBlack]

Ok then let me refrase my question is it worth getting a detector for $900?Not if you can get a Escort 8500 X50 for $500 (got mine for $460:2thumbsup from radar2go@gmail.com (radar2go@gmail.com)).

[texmo]

Has it even saved your ass RIB?

[RiderInBlack]

Has it even saved your ass RIB?Maybe. So far I have see almost all the cops with my eye-balls before the detector, but there has been the odd time it's been faster (and that's the one that you get ticketed on). No falseys yet, but having it has turned me into a nana. After you see how close you are before you get the alarm and see how long it takes you to respond, you start going at a speed that you can get back to the limit quickly and easily on. Beside your a fool if you put your trust in the detector 100% (special when you see cops and it doesn't go). It would be great if the fu*ken thing told you that it was work every now and again.

[texmo]

Well I am a courier and had a ticket at 72 in a 50 just that sort of stuff mainly cos x3 and my licence is gone i can look out for them but so many undercover cars

[Warr]

I own a Uniden and more recently a EscortX50.
The Uniden is obviously older. Isnt as sensitive and falses heaps. I also cant filter out X band.
The EscortX50 doesnt false, I have filtered out Xband, but still have got stopped. And that was cause cop was using passive. I was 20over but on his readout, but I had been travelling higher and slowed when it went off... I'm sure it saved a few $'s.

[Hammer]

I own a Uniden and more recently a EscortX50.
The Uniden is obviously older. Isnt as sensitive and falses heaps. I also cant filter out X band.
The EscortX50 doesnt false, I have filtered out Xband, but still have got stopped. And that was cause cop was using passive. I was 20over but on his readout, but I had been travelling higher and slowed when it went off... I'm sure it saved a few $'s.

Passive what? Don't understand what that is. Do you mean instant on? thks.

[scumdog]

So many threads on this stuff I have asked people if they work 1/2 say yes 1/2 say no, was told by someone they were doing 260 when the screamer went off grab a fist full a brakes and slowed down in time for a cop in a HP car... Fact or Fiction? I would like to get one as just a few tickest and good bye licence....

I suppose IF it drops you into the next lower demerit/fine bracket by the time the cop locks you on it would have to be seen as a plus - even if you get a ticket.t

[texmo]

I suppose IF it drops you into the next lower demerit/fine bracket by the time the cop locks you on it would have to be seen as a plus - even if you get a ticket.t
Thats what I am after, I dont go really fast maby 60-70 at most in a 50 which isnt great but thats just the way the cookie crumbles as a courier. Still scum you get many people with detectors?

[scumdog]

Thats what I am after, I dont go really fast maby 60-70 at most in a 50 which isnt great but thats just the way the cookie crumbles as a courier. Still scum you get many people with detectors?

Yeah, a steady amount, normally they have some story why the got caught "I forgot to turn it on" "It's not mine and I don't know how to use it" "I get so many false warnings and I thought it was another one" "Why didn't it warn me you were there?" " Where did you come from?" "I thought you had to have your radar going all the time" etc etc.

[Lou Girardin]

Yeah, a steady amount, normally they have some story why the got caught "I forgot to turn it on" "It's not mine and I don't know how to use it" "I get so many false warnings and I thought it was another one" "Why didn't it warn me you were there?" " Where did you come from?" "I thought you had to have your radar going all the time" etc etc.

See. Stupidity has a price.

[scumdog]

See. Stupidity has a price.

So what story did you come up with after getting pinged:lol: :lol: :lol: :doh:

[sAsLEX]

You cant detect passive radars


are you sure they have a passive radars?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_radar

or do they just have them off till the time comes to zap the baddies

[Pixie]

They dont really work that well to be honest, most cops using a radar use passive scanning, in that they only turn it on when they see cars, by that time your stuffed. The radar can be turned on without transmitting, and the detectors only detect when it is transmitting.They are only good if its out on a country road and a cop is sitting there with it switched on stationary all the time reading the paper or something. The only other time is if the cop has turned it on to scan someone further down the road before they get to you, and you pick it up.
And how do you know this?
Almost all of the cops I see have their units running all the time.

[scumdog]

And how do you know this?
Almost all of the cops I see have their units running all the time.

What exactly do you mean by "running"? What is it that you have seen to give you that impression?

Sure, the machine might have power to it but it may not be emitting any 'tax collecting rays' at the time you saw them.

[Zapf]

What exactly do you mean by "running"? What is it that you have seen to give you that impression?

Sure, the machine might have power to it but it may not be emitting any 'tax collecting rays' at the time you saw them.

Invites the Klingon to sell me a cloaking device...:spudbn:

[RiderInBlack]

Invites the Klingon to sell me a cloaking device...:spudbn:Yes but then they will start detecting your tachyon emissions and fire their Photon canons at you.

[Zapf]

Yes but then they will start detecting your tachyon emissions and fire their Photon canons at you.

stupid earthling head lights... :thud:

[Lou Girardin]

So what story did you come up with after getting pinged:lol: :lol: :lol: :doh:

It was, "since when did you guys book people for 116 while overtaking on passing lanes?"
I don't crawl.

[scumdog]

It was, "since when did you guys book people for 116 while overtaking on passing lanes?"
I don't crawl.

Hah! Loser! It wouldn't work with me. Sorry!

















"Cos I wouldn't have pulled you over for that in the first place!!:lol: :lol: :killingme

[Jantar]

On my recent North island trip the Radar Detector advised me of revenue gatherers 21 times in 4500 km. Most of these times the cop had the radar in standby mode, and he only turned it on when he was sure that he a target vehicle in his sights.

Also, most of these times the radar detector didn't save me from getting a ticket because either I wasn't speeding at the time, or I saw the cop before he turned on his radar, or a combination of the two.

There were two occassions that when the radar detector went off I was above the speed limit, and managed to slow down. This suggests that the cop probably tried to zap me while I was still out of range, or he just being kind and wasn't going to write out a ticket for someone who was only marginally above the limit.

The strangest one though was when a cop was following me and I was sitting at exactly100 kmh. Despite the fact that I wasn't speeding he was very slowly dropping back. Then after he had been following for at least 5 minutes, and had dropped back to around 400 m behind me he gave me a zap on the radar. Shortly after he just pulled up and stopped at the side of the road.

The heaviest concentration of radar equiped revenue gathers was in the Malborough area.

[sAsLEX]

Stalkers arent passive...you can just switch the transmit on and off on the radar...known as a passive scan..your not letting radar detectors know your there till you want to scan the vehicles speed

yeah thats what I thought, just clarifying.

[2much]

Ok, time for my 2c,

I've owned a bel for about 5 yrs now (think I brought it off Lou originally) and it's paid for it's self many times over. I will always recommend bel as they seem to be the best value for money, and constantly one of the best performing detectors on the market.
Not only that , but through personal experience their support service is excellent. I had a fault appear on the detector after owning it for about 2 yrs. took it to a dealer (not the own I brought it off as I'd since moved down here, no proof of purchase or anything). within 5 days they came back saying it was a factory fault and replaced it with the brand new model at the time (985). Happy with that:2thumbsup

They're not fool proof, nuthin is...... I've still been caught even tho I had the detector.:bash:

Correct, cops often don't turn on the radar till they see you..... however, let's not forget the radar needs 3 seconds to lock on and comfirm it's target's speed..... the gathering and processing of the radio waves using the doppler effect isn't instantanious. This means (usually) you've got about 3 secs from the time the detector goes off, till you're shagged...... through experience I've found I can drop about 20kmhs on average, so, if cruising at 140, they may get me at 120:doh: . there are exemptions as always, I've come over a brow and been fucked immediately, another time I was cruising at 140 on the back roads at night. cop came the the other way and flicked his radar on, I locked the brakes up and almost had a heart attack (that would've been my licence again-only 20 points left) he didn't get me and just carried on. Once my heart slowed down I realised I was now doing 80 and had forgotten to dip my lights!:slap:

NB: this experience is in the cage... I need that new bel with the earphone jack for the bike, no doubt I'll have one soon.

Sorry, perhaps that was 10c worth?

[sAsLEX]

Doesnt take three seconds, its normally instantaneous when you turn it on.


cant be its using doppler which means ........yeah could be pretty quick though

the thing with radars is you can get warning of the cop when the guy a few clicks in front of you gets illuminated

[scumdog]

cant be its using doppler which means ........yeah could be pretty quick though

the thing with radars is you can get warning of the cop when the guy a few clicks in front of you gets illuminated

How do you mean "illuminated??

Also when I check cars I only check the ones I suspect are going a bit quick and turn the radar on just long enough to see their speed (a second or two) and then off again, not having experience at 'the other end' so to speak, how much notice do you take a 'klick' away when you detector detects a momentary indication of a radar??
Bearing in mind it might be the only time I turn it on for several minutes.

[sAsLEX]

How do you mean "illuminated??

how much notice do you take a 'klick' away when you detector detects a momentary indication of a radar??
Bearing in mind it might be the only time I turn it on for several minutes.

having radar energy pointed towards it, ie you pointing in my direction with you buttton on Go. and a question, can you just use the forward/backward antenna or do both come on when you go active?


Really depends where I am, in heavy traffic in Auckland hardly bloody blink, but out the back of no where were false alerts are rare then I so slow from 111 down to 105 *tui* for about 3 or 4 ks

Got a cop about 4-5 k on the cliff tops between Awakino and Mokua once as I got a beep beep at the top of a hill, then no more alerts till the old Mk1 eyeball kicked in and saw him hiding up in some flax in the HP car, so sneaky

but alas my radar kinda kicked the buckter when it got a little wet

[scumdog]

having radar energy pointed towards it, ie you pointing in my direction with you buttton on Go. and a question, can you just use the forward/backward antenna or do both come on when you go active?


We select which direction so only one comes on.

Good to come up behind a car at traffic-lights in the city, see the radar detector is on and then turn on the unit and watch all the pretty red lights on the detector go crazy - and the cars occupants jumping about a foot in the air and putting hands over ears and heads spin around....heh heh heh!:devil2:

[Pixie]

How do i know this....hmmmm maybe cause i am a cop.....

no they dont, not transmitting anyway. The pretty lights on the reciever are normally on all the time but the radar is usually off until they see traffic.
I ask because most of the cops I see have their units transmitting.
(I know this care of Mr Valentine's fine product)

[spudchucka]

however, let's not forget the radar needs 3 seconds to lock on and comfirm it's target's speed....
Shit! Mine must be busted, it takes less than a second to get a reading. Better take it back and get another one!

[scumdog]

I ask because most of the cops I see have their units transmitting.
(I know this care of Mr Valentine's fine product)

They must be the ones with no hunting instinct that just want the easy pickings...
Or are on the way to something more important and want to give detector owner value for their money!

[spudchucka]

We select which direction so only one comes on.

Good to come up behind a car at traffic-lights in the city, see the radar detector is on and then turn on the unit and watch all the pretty red lights on the detector go crazy - and the cars occupants jumping about a foot in the air and putting hands over ears and heads spin around....heh heh heh!:devil2:
Bloody crack up aye!

[spudchucka]

I ask because most of the cops I see have their units transmitting.
(I know this care of Mr Valentine's fine product)
In heavy traffic some cops choose to leave them on constantly, more as a deterent to active speeders with radar detectors rather than attempting to catch speeders by stealth.

Its up to the individual cop how they elect to operate the device.

[spudchucka]

to give detector owner value for their money!
You can put that time down on your time sheets as a public relations job.

[Pixie]

They must be the ones with no hunting instinct that just want the easy pickings...
Or are on the way to something more important and want to give detector owner value for their money!
It must be different here 'oop north'

[Lou Girardin]

, how much notice do you take a 'klick' away when you detector detects a momentary indication of a radar??


Total. Hit the picks and keep it down until I know what's ahead.

[Lou Girardin]

In heavy traffic some cops choose to leave them on constantly, more as a deterent to active speeders with radar detectors rather than attempting to catch speeders by stealth.

Its up to the individual cop how they elect to operate the device.

Or the cops that can't multi-task.
That is, have a genital fondling moment AND operate the Stalker.

[scumdog]

Tonight got three in a row from the same spot - for a change instead of being 'sneaky' I just parked beside the kerb, could be seen from , oh, 500-600 metres away, broad daylight and it was still like shooting fish in a barrel - all doing 70+ in a 50.
Was there for 15 minutes then got bored and moved off.

If they had detectors and their ears worked as good as their eyes they would have still been pinged!!:doh:

Last yoik of a boy-racer was too busy on the phone to notice me - WTF, can't he multi-task at all??

Tried reaction time to see how long from ON to LOCK - less than 1 second - and that includes the cycle ON - READING - LOCK, o.k. I WAS trying but it gives you an idea how fast the dollar extraction death-ray operation CAN be.

No, I don't get a buzz, I don't strop off on it, I treat it like a part (not the best part) of my job. (also hones my 'hunting' skills)

[texmo]

Tonight got three in a row from the same spot - for a change instead of being 'sneaky' I just parked beside the kerb, could be seen from , oh, 500-600 metres away, broad daylight and it was still like shooting fish in a barrel - all doing 70+ in a 50.
Was there for 15 minutes then got bored and moved off.

If they had detectors and their ears worked as good as their eyes they would have still been pinged!!:doh:

Last yoik of a boy-racer was too busy on the phone to notice me - WTF, can't he multi-task at all??

Tried reaction time to see how long from ON to LOCK - less than 1 second - and that includes the cycle ON - READING - LOCK, o.k. I WAS trying but it gives you an idea how fast the dollar extraction death-ray operation CAN be.

No, I don't get a buzz, I don't strop off on it, I treat it like a part (not the best part) of my job. (also hones my 'hunting' skills)
don't lie you know you love it... these are the kinds of people you should be getting if they can see a cop car then you cant see no motorcycle, they shouldn't be on the road, just like the taxi driver who beeped his horn at me twice then pretended like he was gonna take me out I was on his left, I backed off behind him pulled up at the lights and asked him WTF he was doing he replied "you motorcycles are always driving in the bus lanes your a courier you should know better".... fucking terrorist taxi drivers

[scumdog]

I'm supposing you meant "if they CAN'T see a cop car...?

But yeah your right, how much attention to their driving do they have?

In the 'old' days these type of people would have walked right into the tigers jaws, we don't have no improvement of the herds these days....Darwins probably spinning in his grave.

[Jantar]

One of the main things I've noticed since having a radar detector is that I've become much more aware of my speed. As soon as there is the slightest beep from it I immediately look at my speedo. In the 4 months I've had it there are very few times that it has saved me getting a ticket, but even once is worth it. I generally find that either I'm not speeding when I see a cop, or I see any cops before they operate their radar.

One thing I would like to ask though. At what distance does the radar lock on to various types of vehicle eg large truck, average sized cage, Cruiser bike, sprot bike etc?

[texmo]

I'm supposing you meant "if they CAN'T see a cop car...?

But yeah your right, how much attention to their driving do they have?

In the 'old' days these type of people would have walked right into the tigers jaws, we don't have no improvement of the herds these days....Darwin's probably spinning in his grave.
yer i meant if they cant see a cop car, as dover said they light up like a vietnam village covered in napalm, undercover cars i don't agree with i got done for 70 in a 50 with no other cars around a undercover cop was sitting on a side street just off st Luke's hiding really badly I mean sure i was doing 70 in a 50 but i was driving to the conditions no other cars on the roads and it was sunny as... i just don't think undercover is the right way to go about things, but then i have slowed down because of it as i have 35demerit points left or something so i guess they achieved their mission to get more money...

[scumdog]

yer i meant if they cant see a cop car, as dover said they light up like a vietnam village covered in napalm, undercover cars i don't agree with i got done for 70 in a 50 with no other cars around a undercover cop was sitting on a side street just off st Luke's hiding really badly I mean sure i was doing 70 in a 50 but i was driving to the conditions no other cars on the roads and it was sunny as... i just don't think undercover is the right way to go about things, but then i have slowed down because of it as i have 35demerit points left or something so i guess they achieved their mission to get more money...


Rest assured, I WASN'T 'undercover' and I wasn't just inside the 70kph area, I was in as plain view as you could get.

Speeding is speeding, you do it and be prepared to pay - sometimes you're stopped by guys like me - and sometimes by guys that take no prisoners, THAT is the gamble!!

BTW IF I ever got stopped for speeding (doubtful) and 'they' knew what I did for a job things would not be good for me, 'nuff said.

[texmo]

Rest assured, I WASN'T 'undercover' and I wasn't just inside the 70kph area, I was in as plain view as you could get.

Speeding is speeding, you do it and be prepared to pay - sometimes you're stopped by guys like me - and sometimes by guys that take no prisoners, THAT is the gamble!!

BTW IF I ever got stopped for speeding (doubtful) and 'they' knew what I did for a job things would not be good for me, 'nuff said.


Yes I realise you weren't undercover you don't sound like one of the may gay cops out there, I must say i was impressed with the men and women in blue on friday night I was eating burger fuel in westernpark when i saw a guy get bottled for no reason then get his head kicked in a few times rang 111 the dozy bitch on the phone was retarded but about 6 cars turned up couldn't believe it. they got the guys and the victim was taken to hospital...

[scumdog]

One of the main things I've noticed since having a radar detector is that I've become much more aware of my speed. As soon as there is the slightest beep from it I immediately look at my speedo. In the 4 months I've had it there are very few times that it has saved me getting a ticket, but even once is worth it. I generally find that either I'm not speeding when I see a cop, or I see any cops before they operate their radar.

One thing I would like to ask though. At what distance does the radar lock on to various types of vehicle eg large truck, average sized cage, Cruiser bike, sprot bike etc?

Meh, can't say for sure as the radar does not have a distance indicator, all I know is that one day when stationary I 'clocked' a guy for speed at a long distance, after I dealt with him (he was in a smaller cage) I set the trip meter and drove to where I 'clocked' him ( a prominent rise in the road) and it was no less than 1.7 km away. (and he was the only car on the road at that time so I KNOW it was him)

That is not the norm but it shows what the range CAN be.
Bikes? a whole lot shorter I'd say.
BTW watch it on the Glenore straight on SH8 - that's where I was.:msn-wink:

[Lou Girardin]

In the 'old' days these type of people would have walked right into the tigers jaws, we don't have no improvement of the herds these days....Darwins probably spinning in his grave.

We still do, but your bosses are trying to stop it.

[RiderInBlack]

In the 'old' days these type of people would have walked right into the tigers jaws, we don't have no improvement of the herds these days....Darwins probably spinning in his grave.Unfortunately Stupidity has a survival trait. The buggers breed faster and produce more offspring Like rabbits and cockroaches, they can afford higher fatalities cause there are more of them.

Back to the radar. In the Sates (I read somewhere, but could be all shite) you have to be within, I think, a 1/4 of a mile of the cop before they can legally book you for speeding (for the radars reading to be accepted as being accurate in a court hearing). What is the legal distance for NZ?

[spudchucka]

One thing I would like to ask though. At what distance does the radar lock on to various types of vehicle eg large truck, average sized cage, Cruiser bike, sprot bike etc?
I can't comment on the distances for different types of vehicle but larger vehicles obviously are better at reflecting radar than smaller vehicles. Sports cars and motorcycles may not be picked up as far away as a large truck or bus. However I have found that terrain and weather conditions have a greater effect on range than variations in shapes and types of vehicle.

[scumdog]

Back to the radar. In the Sates (I read somewhere, but could be all shite) you have to be within, I think, a 1/4 of a mile of the cop before they can legally book you for speeding (for the radars reading to be accepted as being accurate in a court hearing). What is the legal distance for NZ?[/COLOR][/FONT]

No particular distance - there is no measuring device on radars, only lasers have them, as I said earlier I got a "tax payer" (Lou-speak) at 1.7km.

[Pixie]

Unfortunately Stupidity has a survival trait. The buggers breed faster and produce more offspring Like rabbits and cockroaches, they can afford higher fatalities cause there are more of them.

Back to the radar. In the Sates (I read somewhere, but could be all shite) you have to be within, I think, a 1/4 of a mile of the cop before they can legally book you for speeding (for the radars reading to be accepted as being accurate in a court hearing). What is the legal distance for NZ?
In good ol' NZ radar is 100% accurate to infinity and you don't even need to have clocked the same vehicle you are booking :blip:

[Aiolos]

This could be useful. (http://www.stealth.camouflage.com.au/solution.html)

[R1madness]

I have a BEL RX65 pro. It crapped out last week and because i brought it off the net noone will service it. Wankers. I dont want them to do it for free or under warentee, I am happy to pay.. It only needs the software reloaded. DONT BUY A BEL...

[Fatjim]

No particular distance - there is no measuring device on radars, only lasers have them, as I said earlier I got a "tax payer" (Lou-speak) at 1.7km.

With multiple vehicles approaching, with radar how do distinguish "beyond reasonable doubt" who the "perp" is.

[sAsLEX]

With multiple vehicles approaching, with radar how do distinguish "beyond reasonable doubt" who the "perp" is.

If they have Chromes, they are guilty.
If they have a blow off valve, they are guilty.
If they have a lowered car, they are guilty.
If they have a loud exhaust, they are guilty.
If they have therecap on sideways, they are guilty.


But in reality unless they had a moving antenna, or phased array it is unlikely they would have any indication of which vehicle it is.

[Lou Girardin]

With multiple vehicles approaching, with radar how do distinguish "beyond reasonable doubt" who the "perp" is.

They have to establish a "tracking history" which is jargon for watch the vehicles and identify the speeder. It doesn't happen much with trigger happy cops that activate the Stalker as soon as they see some cars and pull over the most likely suspect.

[Blackbuell]

Hi There,Just to let you know,if you spend good money on a quality radar detector,for a bike,you cant go wrong,i have just done 3000k,s at not so slow speeds,my detecter saved me on 10 occasions,i have a escort detector,with the HARD system,in the water proof cover,i swear buy it,if you are going too travel at 100ks all the time you wont need one,but all the bikes i ride with never travel at 100,but they dont have a detector,at some stage ,they will get caught,just like i propably will at some stage,but i havn't had a fine yet.:2thumbsup

[Lou Girardin]

This man knows of what he speaks.
Detectors are like accountants - they reduce your speed tax liability.

[geoffc]

Anyone got an opinion on these battery powered ones?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=40682100

Hi I purchased one 2 or 3 months back and have since direct wired it (bel 946)
Think you could do better than this model. The range is not wonderful.
I bought mine new on ebay for $225 all up with 1 year warranty.
Cheers