Forum Grammar Poll

[bogan]

I was wondering; does forum grammar, or lack thereof, affect the weight of the poster's opinion?

[mossy1200]

I was wondering; does forum grammar, or lack thereof, affect the weight of the poster's opinion?

watchutalkinboutwillis?

[BMWST?]

i dont care if the grammar is 100 percent correct or not.But if i have to read and re read a post and still not make sense of it,i move on

[unstuck]

yes and no.:confused:

[PrincessBandit]

mumblemumblemumblemumblewotsmygrandmagottadowifitm umblemumble

[Oakie]

I wouldn't say I'm a grammar Nazi exactly, but correct grammar is still mportant to me. Having said that though, if someone explains their point of view well while getting a few commas and apostrophes wrong, it won't, de-value their point of view.

[husaberg]

I admittedly have poor grammar it drives some others nuts for most people don't appreciate the way that I am able to make a sentence last longer than most people serve for killing people.:msn-wink:
In my opinion Poor spelling is so much wosererer than poor grammar.:bleh:

[BuzzardNZ]

My pet peeve is those that don't know the difference between your and you're :eek:

[Tazz]

Nah not really. That FuCkiN gNGsta forNICAtewiT wut wuuuuutTTT speak, or text speak, from a keyboard gets passed over pretty quick by me.

All good to poke a bit of fun but some of the cleverest people I know are dyslexic or struggle to string a sentence together with keyboards or keypads, KB community members excluded :laugh:

[Woodman]

Yup, poor spelling certainly retards the poster in my eyes.

[R650R]

Your question should be:

Does grammar impact message communication?

[bogan]

English is based on simple rules and logic/deduction for the most part, so those who are either too lazy or too ignorant to get the basic right, are likely to have the same flaws in general. Which would make their reasoning skills less robust, thus devaluing their opinion.


My pet peeve is those that don't know the difference between your and you're :eek:

Exactly, the ones that your not sure what there saying because of that shit are just to much.

[unstuck]

Exactly, the ones that your not sure what there saying because of that shit are just to much.

Would that not be TOO much? :confused:

[bogan]

Your question should be:

Does grammar impact message communication?

No, it shouldn't. As BMWST said above, of course messages may be too hard to read and get ignored, but I'm talking about the in betweens. We know grammar impacts message communication, does it impact the value of the message communicated as well is what I wanted to start a discussion about.

[bogan]

Would that not be TOO much? :confused:

Would also be you're and they're. You didn't pass my english test, but we can lower the standards for gay old gore... Hell, 33% is probably scholarship material in those parts :bleh:

[R650R]

Grammar - prounounciation gear-ham-far (silent f)

Noun - name of set of obscure rules adhered to buy fundamentalist English preachers. Important to follow in legal documents and letters to grandma.

Noun (2) - School in Auckland for rich pricks dropped off to school in SUV (see Remuera Tractor)

Verb - Generalisation used by Internet trolls when losing an argument. Eg instead of responding with facts the aggressor retorts with "ohh FFS LOL u twat you spelt recognitized wrong bitch"

Grammar - the last reort of the defeated ;p :)

[gjm]

For me, there is a significant difference between 'lazy' grammar and bad grammar. Similarly, a difference between misspelling something, and just 'can't be bovvered, can I?'

There's even a spell check in most browsers these days!

Less-than-perfect grammar or spelling is fine when the writer has something to say. You can be eloquent and not be grammatically perfect.

[Mike.Gayner]

Capitalisation is the difference between "Help your Uncle Jack off the horse" and "Help your Uncle jack off the horse".

[R650R]

No, it shouldn't. As BMWST said above, of course messages may be too hard to read and get ignored, but I'm talking about the in betweens. We know grammar impacts message communication, does it impact the value of the message communicated as well is what I wanted to start a discussion about.

One should always use less words when less will do.... Said by some great news editor I can't remember isle at mo

[Mike.Gayner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovi7uQbtKas

[bogan]

One should always use less words when less will do.... Said by some great news editor I can't remember isle at mo

Yes but your 'less' will not do, as it conveys a different meaning. This is my whole point, your grammar skills have caused you to misinterpret the data, thus rendering your opinion on making a correction to it, worthless.

[scumdog]

i dont care if the grammar is 100 percent correct or not.But if i have to read and re read a post and still not make sense of it,i move on

Snap - me too!

[Woodman]

Would also be you're and they're. You didn't pass my english test, but we can lower the standards for gay old gore... Hell, 33% is probably scholarship material in those parts :bleh:

Gore starts with a capital letter and has three r's.

[Murray]

Ask Hitcher!

[mashman]

Your question should be:

Does grammar impact message communication?

Much better as I can answer that... and whilst the grammar of the original question is fine, it makes no sense.

Thanks for clearing it up. No, perceived grammar abuse does not frighten me into a state of confusion.

[Mike.Gayner]

One should always use less words when less will do.... Said by some great news editor I can't remember isle at mo

“I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead.”

― Mark Twain

Concise writing is harder than people think, and a rare skill.

[Moi]

Your question should be:

Does grammar impact message communication?

No, the original question is correct: affect = change

whereas impact is what happens when I drive my large car into the side of your pedal car and leave a dent because you failed to stop at the Stop sign...

So, your question should be: Does grammar affect message communication? Does grammar change message communication?

[Murray]

If you can now get a degree in texting does current day society care???

[neels]

My brain hurts too much to read incoherent drivel, life's too short.

If I can't understand it at first reading I move on, if the poster doesn't consider the message important enough to communicate it properly, I don't consider it important enough to decipher what the hell they actually meant.

[Hitcher]

If only it were as simple as grammar. What we are witnessing is much worse.

People either care about what they communicate in writing, and wish others to understand what they have written, or they don't. After a while one gets to know whose utterances are worth reading and largely ignores the rest. Life is too short to care about what the illiterate may have to say, unless they want to help their uncle jack off a horse.

English isn't that hard to master. If I can, anybody can.

[yokel]

Capitalisation is the difference between "Help your Uncle Jack off the horse" and "Help your Uncle jack off the horse".

and the difference in intelligence is whether you start jacking off the horse no questions asked or not.

[Madness]

actungbaby (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/164876-The-experts-speak-yet-again). That is all.

[caspernz]

It shouldn't matter, grammar that is, but yes it does. English is a second language to me, and I'm often amused by examples of grammar that aren't lazy but just plain dumb. In all honesty though, some of the cleverest folk I know suck at grammar... :rolleyes:...so it isn't a mission critical skill in life I'd say.

[R650R]

Often I'll deliberately bad grander just because I know the opponent will GE their knicker in a twist... Forums aren't formal environments, it's like chatting at he pub talking shit, there's a few errors and arrrrs it's not a fucking CEOs annual speech with que cards and teleprompters....

And autocorrect, damn that shit correct to while different word sometimes...

I've actually got a qualification in editing but I'll be fucked if I'm goin to proof one something for here just cause that's all some L plater has over me in a debate....

[Flip]

I am much better at linear equasions than high school grammer.

[R650R]

I was wondering; does forum grammar, or lack thereof, affect the weight of the poster's opinion?

Your semi colon is not needed on such a short sentence either, an en dash would be much more suitable to denote a pause.

[bogan]

Gore starts with a capital letter and has three r's.

Oh yeh, I forgot the rule of spelling gore, as many Rs as they have teeth...


If only it were as simple as grammar. What we are witnessing is much worse.

People either care about what they communicate in writing, and wish others to understand what they have written, or they don't. After a while one gets to know whose utterances are worth reading and largely ignores the rest. Life is too short to care about what the illiterate may have to say, unless they want to help their uncle jack off a horse.

English isn't that hard to master. If I can, anybody can.

That is certainly a valuable perspective.


Your semi colon is not needed on such a short sentence either, an en dash would be much more suitable to denote a pause.

That is largely subjective—en dashes were never in my curriculum and em dashes only used similarly to parenthesis—and using it as I did is appropriate as it marks a change of sentence elements. But it does go to show, even you can learn the basics of correct grammar. Now if you would apply it more often, and in wider scope, your opinions would be more intelligible, and thus worth more.

[husaberg]

Your semi colon is not needed on such a short sentence either, an en dash would be much more suitable to denote a pause.

http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/post-30290-Youre-pushing-your-luck-little-xROH.gif

[willytheekid]

...I am fully trained to offer grammarnazi support:yes:
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/when-comforting-a-grammar-nazi.jpg


...I also like learning all the big words you smart cunts use on here :o (Note...do NOT google "feltching"...it stays with you forever!...fuckin THANKS! KBers:oi-grr::motu:)

[unstuck]

Oh yeh, I forgot the rule of spelling gore, as many Rs as they have teeth...





I have 11 teeth left, people think I am growling at them when they ask where I am from.:msn-wink:

[R650R]

Am I meanto be the soup Nazi or George lol....

http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr02/2013/2/11/13/enhanced-buzz-12189-1360607075-2.jpg

[R650R]

That is largely subjective—en dashes were never in my curriculum and em dashes only used similarly to parenthesis—and using it as I did is appropriate as it marks a change of sentence elements. But it does go to show, even you can learn the basics of correct grammar. Now if you would apply it more often, and in wider scope, your opinions would be more intelligible, and thus worth more.

You've actually used em dashes in your post there.... ;p

[Stirts]

You've actually used em dashes in your post there.... ;p

Were those invented prior to the mid 80's? I don't recall being taught them. I had to Google what they were, maybe I bunked English that year.

[bogan]

You've actually used em dashes in your post there.... ;p

You've actually used the right there!


Were those invented prior to the mid 80's? I don't recall being taught them. I had to Google what they were, maybe I bunked English that year.

Was taught them at uni during masters degree. We had far more 'useful' things to do in college english like figuring out who killed the mockingbird.

[Moi]

Were those invented prior to the mid 80's? I don't recall being taught them. I had to Google what they were, maybe I bunked English that year.


Try mid-1780s - they are typographical features of letterpress printing.

So, if you 'bunked' English that year you are bloody ancient! :shit:

[PrincessBandit]

From one of my favourite movies...(hopefully the link works)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7JmKW8xhrg

[Big Dog]

I am not a grammar nazi, but if there are two differing opinions on the same topic that I know nothing about human nature dictates I will side with the most coherent and reasonable one. Sometimes that is as simple as opinion from an educated person vs. ClEarily dint finch 2 yeah high skool.


Personal pet peeves:
Youse.
People who use poor grammar to correct someone else.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[willytheekid]

From one of my favourite movies...(hopefully the link works)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7JmKW8xhrg

Because were MEN!!...Men in TIGHTS!!

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzimzhw1qo1qjtndio1_500.gif

EVERYBODY NOW!!:eek:



no?....just me huh:confused: (...I ride honda!...its not my fault :weep:)

[unstuck]

Would also be you're and they're. You didn't pass my english test, but we can lower the standards for gay old gore... Hell, 33% is probably scholarship material in those parts :bleh:

Good job I never went to school here then, or even the school in Auckland that I WAS supposed to go to.:msn-wink:

[ellipsis]

I have 11 teeth left,


...snap...

[bogan]

Good job I never went to school here then, or even the school in Auckland that I WAS supposed to go to.:msn-wink:

Well color me surprised :bleh:

[husaberg]

Am I mean to be the soup Nazi or George lol....



http://www.rantlifestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/georges-pick-up-line.gif

[awayatc]

Because were MEN!!...Men in TIGHTS!!




we're men you moron.....not were men.....

get it right at least once..?
This is a thread about this very topic..

Feel better if post a few smiley's...?

:eek::laugh::no::niceone::Police:

[PrincessBandit]

we're men you moron.....not were men.....

get it right at least once..?
This is a thread about this very topic..

Feel better if post a few smiley's...?

:eek::laugh::no::niceone::Police:

And, in fact, the line goes "We're men, MANLY MEN, we're men in tights, YES..." (in the second verse anyway :banana: )

[Jantar]

My pet peeve is those that don't know the difference between your and you're :eek:
Or yaw and yore. :shifty:

[TheDemonLord]

For me - I have a level of Grammar I expect - its not super high as I know mine can sometimes be off (when I type sometimes my brain tells me I have typed a word but my fingers haven't) but as a general rule - when you are doing any form of written communication (Email, Forum etc.) not taking a little time to make sure you are easily understood is IMO a mark of laziness and arrogance. I attempt to take time to make sure that for the most part, I use punctuation, paragraphs, well structured comments/arguments/points and make use of the in browser spellcheck.

I grant you I don't always get it right, but I like to think for the most part when I have been debating Hammer and Tongs with someone, that they at no point thought:

'WTF is the Demon guy trying to say?!?! I can't make head or tail of the drivel he has written"

(or at the very least, they think my opinion is drivel but not the writing)

[R650R]

Didn't he pick up a real hot chick with that line....

Well I'll take the Soup Nazi then lol

Back to thread an interesting note from an Editors perspective, its wrong to interfere with a persons style if their use of grammar is part of that and the story.
Eg above the word 'youse' was mentioned, but in Caeser Campbells book about the bikie gang stuff he used that a lot. It would be wrong to correct it.
So in a thread who owns the body of work? Should everyone confirm to the thread authors standards or lack of standards or are individual posts individual pieces of work???
Food for thought....

[bogan]

Food for thought....

It's not though. Stories and articles are written for communication in one direction only, forums where the worth of an idea can be evaluated are generally two way communication. Such a narrative is inherently ill-suited for the discussion of ideas, so it only goes to reinforce the theory that proper grammar can indicate the worth of one's idea.

[R650R]

It's not though. Stories and articles are written for communication in one direction only, forums where the worth of an idea can be evaluated are generally two way communication. Such a narrative is inherently ill-suited for the discussion of ideas, so it only goes to reinforce the theory that proper grammar can indicate the worth of one's idea.

But to uphold a standard of grammar requires some form of control or ownership of the works. As even in high society publications with the best writers you could still find errors if you look hard enough.
I wonder if any of the spelling police here pull up bad speakers in public....

"Excuse me maam, did you just say L O L as the text speak work lol out loud? I'm sorry bitch but that's not a real fucking word, how I'm I supposed to evaluate your gossip if you don't dpeak proper fucking English?" :)

[bogan]

But to uphold a standard of grammar requires some form of control or ownership of the works. As even in high society publications with the best writers you could still find errors if you look hard enough.
I wonder if any of the spelling police here pull up bad speakers in public....

"Excuse me maam, did you just say L O L as the text speak work lol out loud? I'm sorry bitch but that's not a real fucking word, how I'm I supposed to evaluate your gossip if you don't dpeak proper fucking English?" :)

Because it is an intra societal exchange medium, society as a whole owns it. Grammar must conform to the consensus in order to maximise efficiency of idea exchange; it cannot conform to one person in this instance, and another somewhere else and remain at peak efficiency. It also cannot remain at peak efficiency with the number off buffoons butchering it, but at least there is still a benchmark.

Again, public speaking is unidirectional communication, and generally not subject to the same rigors of peer review. Additionally, one would find their listeners diminishing in number if the spoke with an inadequate grasp of the language.

[Big Dog]

Because it is an intra societal exchange medium, society as a whole owns it. Grammar must conform to the consensus in order to maximise efficiency of idea exchange; it cannot conform to one person in this instance, and another somewhere else and remain at peak efficiency. It also cannot remain at peak efficiency with the number off buffoons butchering it, but at least there is still a benchmark.

Again, public speaking is unidirectional communication, and generally not subject to the same rigors of peer review. Additionally, one would find their listeners diminishing in number if the spoke with an inadequate grasp of the language.
For a case in point: you ring around and get a few quotes. They all vary. Because you are only able to supply symptoms your beloved bike is experiencing and not the cause or method of repair the suggested fixes are all different.

Who do you go to for the fix in the absence of a good recommendation?
The barely literate?
The third world type who is trying, very trying?
The English is not my first language type?
The English is my first language but not from a place normally associated with quality workmanship sort?
The English is my first language but I use the wrong technical words and lack conviction about the cause or fix?
The well spoken person who had no hesitation and a convincing argument for why their fix would solve your problem?


I think most people would slide down the above scale as far as they could skipping anyone they can't afford.





Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

If you're slipping into the embrace of the anaesthetic prior to a cranial operation would you rather hear "hey nurse, chew wanna get fucked up? My dealer hooked me up wid some sweet buds." Or "Nurse, this should be rather routine. "


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[AllanB]

If you're slipping into the embrace of the anaesthetic prior to a anal operation would you rather hear "hey nurse, chew wanna get fucked up? My dealer hooked me up wid some sweet buds." Or "Nurse, this should be worth rooting. "

Fixed it for you. Or should that be

Fixed it for ya



Meh (is that even a real word?) - it's a web site. Can't account for the education of the poster or the volume of booze induced prior to posting.


I'm more worried about the CONTENT of some of the posts on KB!!!!!

[Big Dog]

Fixed it for you. Or should that be

Fixed it for ya



Meh (is that even a real word?) - it's a web site. Can't account for the education of the poster or the volume of booze induced prior to posting.


I'm more worried about the CONTENT of some of the posts on KB!!!!!

Aye, but I was answering to how seriously you take someone in the absence of other guides, such as past experience, referrals etc.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[R650R]

Because it is an intra societal exchange medium, society as a whole owns it. Grammar must conform to the consensus in order to maximise efficiency of idea exchange; it cannot conform to one person in this instance, and another somewhere else and remain at peak efficiency. It also cannot remain at peak efficiency with the number off buffoons butchering it, but at least there is still a benchmark.

Again, public speaking is unidirectional communication, and generally not subject to the same rigors of peer review. Additionally, one would find their listeners diminishing in number if the spoke with an inadequate grasp of the language.

...off... should be "of" :)

[yokel]

For a case in point: you ring around and get a few quotes. They all vary. Because you are only able to supply symptoms your beloved bike is experiencing and not the cause or method of repair the suggested fixes are all different.

Who do you go to for the fix in the absence of a good recommendation?
The barely literate?
The third world type who is trying, very trying?
The English is not my first language type?
The English is my first language but not from a place normally associated with quality workmanship sort?
The English is my first language but I use the wrong technical words and lack conviction about the cause or fix?
The well spoken person who had no hesitation and a convincing argument for why their fix would solve your problem?


I think most people would slide down the above scale as far as they could skipping anyone they can't afford.





Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

I think you'll find that the "well spoken"person is not going to be the one that's actually going to be the one working on your bike for fear of actually doing something useful.

[Woodman]

I think you'll find that the "well spoken"person is not going to be the one that's actually going to be the one working on your bike for fear of actually doing something useful.

So well spoken people are useless then?

[bogan]

...off... should be "of" :)

See, if you can pick errors up in my posts, there is no reason why you can't proof read your own :yes:

[yokel]

So well spoken people are useless then?

Let's just say a well spoken person is not the same as someone that knows what they're talking about.

[Woodman]

Let's just say a well spoken person is not the same as someone that knows what they're talking about.

Giant balls...............

[BuzzardNZ]

See, if you can pick errors up in my posts, there is no reason why you can't proof read your own :yes:

Your mate Ed seems to have pretty flawless grammar:msn-wink:

[bogan]

Your mate Ed seems to have pretty flawless grammar:msn-wink:

Never said it was the only factor in determining a poster's worth :rolleyes:; decent grammar is probably one of the reasons I still fuck with him instead of just chucking him on ignore like a few others.

[TheDemonLord]

Let's just say a well spoken person is not the same as someone that knows what they're talking about.

I respectfully infer that the sentence you have just put forward is akin to the manure from a herd of cows.

One can be well spoken and authoritative, just as one can be an verbally challenged and clueless.

[unstuck]

just as one can be an verbally challenged and clueless.

I may be verbally challenged and clueless, but I would not have put the AN in that sentence.:bleh:

[Katman]

Hey, if I'm going to tell someone to suck my cock the least I can do is try to spell it correctly.

[Akzle]

...off... should be "of" :)

also
'if the spoke with an
inadequate grasp of the
language.'

judge not lest ye be judged.

[TheDemonLord]

I may be verbally challenged and clueless, but I would not have put the AN in that sentence.:bleh:

There was a wayward D - he listened to too much 70's Punk and decided to stick it to the man and not be in the sentence.

[unstuck]

There was a wayward D - he listened to too much 70's Punk and decided to stick it to the man and not be in the sentence.

Woo hoo, go D.:Punk::Punk:

[Big Dog]

I think you'll find that the "well spoken"person is not going to be the one that's actually going to be the one working on your bike for fear of actually doing something useful.

So your money would go to the barely literate?

I suppose I should have added most people prefer to trust people of a similar IQ / education level, are natively reluctant to trust those with a differing background or age and biased towards their own race.

There are of course exceptions to all rules, though most of us will carry some prejudice.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[unstuck]

There are of course exceptions to all rules, though most of us will carry some prejudice.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

Yeah man, whats up with those white jellybeans? :weird:

[R650R]

See, if you can pick errors up in my posts, there is no reason why you can't proof read your own :yes:

Its all a case of how worthy is the recipient. Its like putting on a decent shirt to go to the local brothel as opposed to a t-shirt when spending the same amount of money at the bike shop ;p
Just as you dress for the occasion you write and edit for the occasion/environment....

http://i1.wp.com/memecollection.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/i-see-you-have-disabled-autocorrect-2.jpg?resize=600%2C318

[bogan]

Its all a case of how worthy is the recipient. Its like putting on a decent shirt to go to the local brothel as opposed to a t-shirt when spending the same amount of money at the bike shop ;p
Just as you dress for the occasion you write and edit for the occasion/environment....

Actually, basic grammar is more like putting on pants to go to winz, you'll do it if you want to be taken seriously. Advanced grammar, sure, you can skip bits of that now and then if it isn't technical writing. But lets face it, knowing the difference between your/you're/yaw/yore and there/their/they're etc, falls heavily under the basic grammar category; there is no reason why you should fuck that up and expect your opinion to be taken as educated.

[Swoop]

A lorry carrying copies of Roget's Thesaurus crashed on SH1 yesterday, shedding its load across the motorway.

Onlookers are said to be stunned, bewildered, dumbfounded, astonished, shocked, flabbergasted, startled, speechless and amazed.

[mashman]

Sounds like the main problem is the intolerance of the so called educated. Hardly surprising that the world is in such a poor state when appearance is used as a measure of worth. Cutting noses off to spite face springs to mind. Programming at its best, baaaaaaaa.

[unstuck]

A lorry

That is so 60's.:rolleyes:

[yokel]

So your money would go to the barely literate?

I suppose I should have added most people prefer to trust people of a similar IQ / education level, are natively reluctant to trust those with a differing background or age and biased towards their own race.

There are of course exceptions to all rules, though most of us will carry some prejudice.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

I don't really see the connection between mechanical skills and literally skills other than being able to read a manual,

When I left skool I couldn't even spell my address yet could tear down and rebuild the motor and box on my shity dirt bike.
Perhaps I'm the exception to the rule?

I don't take my bikes to mechanics so guess I don't really relate to your said situation

[unstuck]

Some of the most successful and richest people in the world had little or no formal training did they not. If you find something that you are passionate about and learn all you can on the subject, who cares wether or not you can spell yur.:shifty:

[bogan]

Some of the most successful and richest people in the world had little or no formal training did they not. If you find something that you are passionate about and learn all you can on the subject, who cares wether or not you can spell yur.:shifty:

It certainly isn't about how successful one can be, or how good at something (apart from grammar, obviously), how happy, or whether one person is worth more or less than another. It is about how educated and well informed their ideas are though; if one can't adhere to the basic structures of the English language, the same flaws (lazy and ill-informed) are more likely to be present in the ideas they promote.

[unstuck]

It certainly isn't about how successful one can be, or how good at something (apart from grammar, obviously), how happy, or whether one person is worth more or less than another. It is about how educated and well informed their ideas are though; if one can't adhere to the basic structures of the English language, the same flaws (lazy and ill-informed) are more likely to be present in the ideas they promote.

Im thick but happy, so carry on. As you were.:niceone:

[Big Dog]

I don't really see the connection between mechanical skills and literally skills other than being able to read a manual,

When I left skool I couldn't even spell my address yet could tear down and rebuild the motor and box on my shity dirt bike.
Perhaps I'm the exception to the rule?

I don't take my bikes to mechanics so guess I don't really relate to your said situation

Okay, so something a little less manual, you are up on charges. They are too serious to leave to the duty solicitor. Who from the previous list do you employ?

I have no doubt some of the finest technical minds I have ever encountered cannot read or write beyond primary school level. Most people who see my handwriting think I have shown them a child's work.
Doesn't change the fact that better communicators are normally more sought after than otherwise equal candidates / peers.

On the flip side my adherence to grammar, documentation and rules has also seen me excluded from projects because less skilled but better educated souls could not relate. Which goes back to what I was saying about people tend to prefer to deal with people on the same level.

The trouble in a text based medium is the only indicators you have of the worthiness of a post are:
Your past experience with the poster, their supporters and their critics.
The grammar of all of the above no doubt plays a part.

I don't take my grammar seriously when posting humour. I do when posting advice, information or opinions.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

Im thick but happy, so carry on. As you were.:niceone:

How ironic then that your posts have some of the better grammar out of the prolific posters.


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[Big Dog]

Some of the most successful and richest people in the world had little or no formal training did they not. If you find something that you are passionate about and learn all you can on the subject, who cares wether or not you can spell yur.:shifty:

Some of the richest people got that way through immoral means.

Does that mean immorality is an ingredient to wealth?
Or can the two be mutually exclusive?

I seem to have little control over my wealth, or lack thereof. My education on the other hand is in my control.

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I seem to have little control over my wealth, or lack thereof. My education on the other hand is in my control.

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If you have control of your thoughts, then you have control over EVERY aspect of your life.

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Some of the richest people got that way through immoral means.


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And a lot of them didn't. They understand the saying in the pic in my last post. :shifty:

[Big Dog]

Kind of my point. Lack of formal education was a barrier, much as morality is. Doesn't prevent success just means you have to work harder to achieve it.


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[unstuck]

just means you have to work harder to achieve it.


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Work smarter, not harder.:msn-wink:

[bogan]

Work smarter, not harder.:msn-wink:

But if ever you find yourself working harder, charge like a wounded bull :yes:

[ellipsis]

A fellow of great magniloquence sat at my kitchen table once and had my wife and another friend scratching their heads and they were not at all keeping up with the point of his diatribe. When asked to use words they could understand, he questioned their intelligence. His blood stains are still evident some years later on my verandah and with a broken jaw and his eye hanging off the side of his head, much like a novelty eye on a spring, I dare say he couldn't talk for some time.
He has probably not acted like the arrogant, supercilious cunt that he was, ever again, I would opine.

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A fellow of great magniloquence sat at my kitchen table once and had my wife and another friend scratching their heads and they were not at all keeping up with the point of his diatribe. When asked to use words they could understand, he questioned their intelligence. His blood stains are still evident some years later on my verandah and with a broken jaw and his eye hanging off the side of his head, much like a novelty eye on a spring, I dare say he couldn't talk for some time.
He has probably not acted like the arrogant, supercilious cunt that he was, ever again, I would opine.

:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme Must spread.

How eloquently put.:niceone:

[mashman]

A fellow of great magniloquence sat at my kitchen table once and had my wife and another friend scratching their heads and they were not at all keeping up with the point of his diatribe. When asked to use words they could understand, he questioned their intelligence. His blood stains are still evident some years later on my verandah and with a broken jaw and his eye hanging off the side of his head, much like a novelty eye on a spring, I dare say he couldn't talk for some time.
He has probably not acted like the arrogant, supercilious cunt that he was, ever again, I would opine.

He may never stray from his circle again :shifty:... well, until it's time to press the flesh with his voters.

[Big Dog]

Work smarter, not harder.:msn-wink:

Oh yes. My mantra.
An hour invested in automating something or learning a better way to accomplish an old task is rarely wasted.


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[yokel]

Okay, so something a little less manual, you are up on charges. They are too serious to leave to the duty solicitor. Who from the previous list do you employ?

I have no doubt some of the finest technical minds I have ever encountered cannot read or write beyond primary school level. Most people who see my handwriting think I have shown them a child's work.
Doesn't change the fact that better communicators are normally more sought after than otherwise equal candidates / peers.

On the flip side my adherence to grammar, documentation and rules has also seen me excluded from projects because less skilled but better educated souls could not relate. Which goes back to what I was saying about people tend to prefer to deal with people on the same level.

The trouble in a text based medium is the only indicators you have of the worthiness of a post are:
Your past experience with the poster, their supporters and their critics.
The grammar of all of the above no doubt plays a part.

I don't take my grammar seriously when posting humour. I do when posting advice, information or opinions.


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okay, so you totally change your point from needling a bike mechanic to a solicitor/ lawyer??
you sound like a crazy cat lady.

I think the reason you get excluded from projects might be a wee bit different than you think they are?


Thats just my uneducated opinion, so you can wipe your arse with it if you so wish haha

[Big Dog]

okay, so you totally change your point from needling a bike mechanic to a solicitor/ lawyer??
you sound like a crazy cat lady.

I think the reason you get excluded from projects might be a wee bit different than you think they are?


Thats just my uneducated opinion, so you can wipe your arse with it if you so wish haha

I might have to.
I changed my analogy to attempt to convey my point due to to your inability to imagine you needed a mechanic.


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[yokel]

I might have to.
I changed my analogy to attempt to convey my point due to to your inability to imagine you needed a mechanic.


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I thought your point was about trying to choose a good mechanic by trying to gauge their IQ by some crazy arse criteria?

[scumdog]

That is so 60's.:rolleyes:

'ere you, I drives a lorry - a little one mind!:bleh:

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'ere you, I drives a lorry - a little one mind!:bleh:

Thats more of a lol than a lorry.:msn-wink:

[Big Dog]

I thought your point was about trying to choose a good mechanic by trying to gauge their IQ by some crazy arse criteria?

More an analogy about how one might go about selecting an opinion, putting how willing you are to pay for that opinion as a measure we can all relate to.

[Akzle]

haha. Red rep with
'Thread: Forum Grammar Poll intersting consider most of
your posts are barely literate'

jeesus. Presumably the same muppet that gobbed off jen.

But i do love ironing, so thanks for teh lulz.

[Akzle]

dont worry gobber.
Ax is still > you.

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dont worry gobber.
Ax is still > you.

Grubby been stalking you aye? You must have a nice arse.:buggerd:

[Akzle]

Grubby been stalking you aye? You must have a nice arse.:buggerd:

its not him. Even he's not THAT pathetic.

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Even he's not THAT pathetic.

Are you sure? :whistle:

[Oakie]

Some of the most successful and richest people in the world had little or no formal training did they not. :

True. In fact I was at the funeral of one of them about 7 weeks ago. Unfortunately it's not a path you can take unless you are exceptional in other ways.

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Unfortunately it's not a path you can take unless you are exceptional in other ways.

How so? :confused:

[Tazz]

XD


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[Moi]

XD


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That's so true...

and grammatical correct :eek: - well, sort of...