PC Racing reusable oil filters

[gjm]

Like this one (http://www.pcracingusa.com/Suzuki-Street-PCS2_p_30.html), but available for many more machines. They seem to have a reasonable range for quads and ATVs, too.

OK - expensive for an oil filter at USD 165 shipped, or so. NZD 210. Ouch. About the same (in my case) as 10 regular oil filters from K&N or similar.

But... I'm looking at changing oil every couple of months, so two years of ownership should see at least a break-even in cost terms, assuming they can be reused a couple of dozen times. And, if the claims of better filtration and flow are true, it could be 'A Good Thing' anyway.

Has anyone tried one, used one, or know someone who has?

[Flip]

Like this one (http://www.pcracingusa.com/Suzuki-Street-PCS2_p_30.html), but available for many more machines. They seem to have a reasonable range for quads and ATVs, too.

OK - expensive for an oil filter at USD 165 shipped, or so. NZD 210. Ouch. About the same (in my case) as 10 regular oil filters from K&N or similar.

But... I'm looking at changing oil every couple of months, so two years of ownership should see at least a break-even in cost terms, assuming they can be reused a couple of dozen times. And, if the claims of better filtration and flow are true, it could be 'A Good Thing' anyway.

Has anyone tried one, used one, or know someone who has?

At 35 micron the dirt particles are almost visible. A std oil filter is 5-10 micron.

IMHO these are racing filters where the oil is being changed after each meeting and not suitable for use on the road with long service intervals.

[pete376403]

Oil filters and changing the oil often are the cheapest insurance you can get for your motor. Why would you risk an unknown over something that has been developed and proven over the past 90 odd years (Purolater invented in 1923)

[gjm]

Fair 'nuf.

Reading around a bit more, I've seen the K&N filters quoted at 10 and 20 microns - either is (theoretically) better than the 35 stated for the PCR filter.

Perhaps a box of K&N filters is a better way to go.

[BlackSheepLogic]

But... I'm looking at changing oil every couple of months, so two years of ownership should see at least a break-even in cost terms, assuming they can be reused a couple of dozen times

For a item your spending ~$10.00 a month does not seem worth a $220.00 outlay. Six oil changes a year - how many K's per year are you doing?

[gjm]

For a item your spending ~$10.00 a month does not seem worth a $220.00 outlay. Six oil changes a year - how many K's per year are you doing?
Could easily be upwards of 30000... (Yup - 4 zeroes.) And that's just the commute.

[AllanB]

Don't waste your money.

Standard filters are better and if you shop around on line you'll get bulk cheap. Or buy your oil filter in NZ as I do for my bike and cars from: http://nzairfilter.co.nz


10-15,000 kms per month? Courier? What's the guts mate?

If you dare (and I do suggest there is a risk of screwing up your head by doing so) the internet has lots of info re oil filters - one theory is that a oil filter improves with age up to a limit. One thing to consider also is factory recommended service intervals. Lots of bikes are now 10-15,000 kms so common sense dictates the filters are designed to do their job for at least that period.

Also look at Hiflow filters - I did some research into these years back, chances are your factory XX brand oil filter is actually a Hiflow filter branded Suzuki, Honda, Triumph etc.
http://www.hiflofiltro.com/

[BlackSheepLogic]

One theory is that a oil filter improves with age up to a limit.

I could see that material build up in the oil filter would restrict it's flow thereby restricting particulars from passing though. However I think that thinking probably goes hand-in-hand with those who believe in extended oil changes.

I prefer to subscribe to regular oil changes with synthetic oil to minimize the engine wear rather than try and filter out excess wear a old oil filter may be capturing due to extended oil changes.

[gjm]

Don't waste your money.

Standard filters are better and if you shop around on line you'll get bulk cheap. Or buy your oil filter in NZ as I do for my bike and cars from: http://nzairfilter.co.nz


10-15,000 kms per month? Courier? What's the guts mate?

If you dare (and I do suggest there is a risk of screwing up your head by doing so) the internet has lots of info re oil filters - one theory is that a oil filter improves with age up to a limit. One thing to consider also is factory recommended service intervals. Lots of bikes are now 10-15,000 kms so common sense dictates the filters are designed to do their job for at least that period.

Also look at Hiflow filters - I did some research into these years back, chances are your factory XX brand oil filter is actually a Hiflow filter branded Suzuki, Honda, Triumph etc.
http://www.hiflofiltro.com/


I could see that material build up in the oil filter would restrict it's flow thereby restricting particulars from passing though. However I think that thinking probably goes hand-in-hand with those who believe in extended oil changes.

I prefer to subscribe to regular oil changes with synthetic oil to minimize the engine wear rather than try and filter out excess wear a old oil filter may be capturing due to extended oil changes.

After a little looking around, I can get the K&N filters for under $20 a pop. Puts things into perspective. The Hiflow filters I know less about, but that's what was fitted to the bike when I bought it. I've no issues with regular oil and filter changes - it's not as if it's a difficult thing to do.

Allan - I'm not doing 10000km+ a month! - possibly 30000km a year. Slight miscalcuulation, perhaps? I did put 98000km on a GSXR1100 in 12 months while in the UK, again in commuting. 120 miles each way, 5 days a week.

Extended oil changes I regard as the future but don't personally adhere to. Oil and filters are certainly better now than they were even 10 years ago, but (for instance) the computer in our BMW diesel tells us there could be well over 13000 miles - 20000km - between services. Not a chance! 7000 miles seems much more reasonable. 420000km in 12 years suggests we're doing something right, although I am going to swap the turbo sometime soon.

We put some miles on our transport, perhaps more than most people. But the cars and bikes we have are well looked after. :)

[AllanB]

I run full synthetics in all my vehicles (excluding the lawn mower - but it was topped up with some recently!). Got a pile of packs sitting waiting for the next changes. Filters too.

Oil threads are always interesting - I read some of the truck ones a while back - these guys do huge miles on the oil and do regular technical oil tests for toxins etc in the oil. Mind you the trucks have half a dozen oil filters and hold a shit load of oil.

Interesting stuff to read on a wet day.

I've been known to cut open my used oil filters for a perve - particularly interested in the Hornets when it had it's first ever oil change (new engine) after all the net woffle about swarf particles etc left in new engines. The filter was absolutely spotless - looked as new. Hondas aye.