New Police road campaign

[mada]

Perhaps they could look at focusing on dangerous U-turns (especially by their own officers) which appear to be very common nowadays. It's only a matter of time before fatalities occur. :facepalm:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/65103420/pair-lucky-to-be-alive-after-crash-with-police-car

[HenryDorsetCase]

Perhaps they could look at focusing on dangerous U-turns (especially by their own officers) which appear to be very common nowadays. It's only a matter of time before fatalities occur. :facepalm:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/65103420/pair-lucky-to-be-alive-after-crash-with-police-car

They are unsympathetic "victims" so I dont care. (stupid nerdy dyed hair "alternative" fuckwit with his tattoos and his piercings. What a wonderful "individual" snowflake he is. She appears to have EATEN at least one policeman)

If they were a nice young married, church going couple, he had a nice steady job, was wearing a suit and tie, short back and sides, 2.1 children and a mortgage then I might be sympathetic. But probably not.

[TheDemonLord]

They are unsympathetic "victims" so I dont care. (stupid nerdy dyed hair "alternative" fuckwit with his tattoos and his piercings. What a wonderful "individual" snowflake he is. She appears to have EATEN at least one policeman)

If they were a nice young married, church going couple, he had a nice steady job, was wearing a suit and tie, short back and sides, 2.1 children and a mortgage then I might be sympathetic. But probably not.

Not sure if Sarcasm

[MisterD]

stupid nerdy dyed hair "alternative" fuckwit with his tattoos and his piercings.

Plus, son of TV psychic, so shouldn't he have known it was going to happen?

[Madness]

Plus, son of TV psychic, so shouldn't he have known it was going to happen?

It can't have been in the script.

[awayatc]

How many ill advised u turns do the popo perform that result in near misses...?
lets say yhat we get... what?.. one in 20 that result in a headline making crash...?

All the fatal u turns , and a few other ones I know off ( including this one ) were made by cops on traffic duty.....

Not chasing bad guys or saving lives.....
just chasing another infringement notice to add to their (non existing) quota...

pot / kettle/ black....

[Swoop]

SO many things here...

Firstly: How is any vehicle going to stop with "who ate all the pies" in the front seat? Especially a toymota corona?

#2: "He was a nice officer. I expected him to be raging but he admitted he was at fault."
Sorry love, but the "independent police complaint's authority" will not come out with that conclusion.

#3: People need to stop using "stuff" as a news site.

[Scuba_Steve]

And if they were "speeding" they could have avoided the crash all together :shifty:

[Mushu]

I bet they'll claim he was doing 1km/h over the limit that way they can claim the cop only has partial responsibility and can use it as justification to keep zero tolerance all the time rather than just public holidays

[Berries]

I'd tap it.

[Waihou Thumper]

If the car driver had had "anticipation skills"


You mean like ESP and a crystal Ball? Don't be fucking ridiculous!
So called 'anticipation skills' do not put you in the mind of the fucking driver right?
Sure you can look at the drivers wheels at an intersection to see if he or she is creeping and thinking 'yes' let's go...
BUT......come on...surely you jest?

[nodrog]

Fuck it must of been pretty bad, they have shrapnel all through their heads, he has the cigarette lighter embedded in his ear, and she's clearly ingested the airbags.

[unstuck]

Wonder if the loud crunch on impact was the sound of the bag of chips in her face getting squashed.

[James Deuce]

I am not speaking about myself having them but others that claim to have them on here. I was hit by a u turning driver myself and some on here said I would not have been hit if I had anticipation skills which another poster on here is trotting out to mean mind reading ability of other drivers who he has claimed 90% of motorcyclists have and over 50% of car drivers have. When I suggested he remove his indicators to prove that he went quiet.

The world is very black and white in what passes for your mind.

I would suggest that the only thing that the petal involved in the accident can anticipate is someone passing a bong.

I avoided two accidents this week. Spent a couple of hours at one of them helping the people in the car that crashed and providing statements. In both instances I anticipated and reacted to something that hadn't happened. In one instance there was no accident due to my actions. In that instance the problem started behind me and I reacted to the driver's behaviour behind me. In the other I saw that the chap was a metre off line entering a corner and I slowed dramatically to avoid the inevitable over reaction that the inattentive have to the consequences of their inattention.

Why do you insist that people are incapable of reading driver behaviour especially when many of us have an expansive lexicon of incidents from which to draw experience and we can use that experience to respond BEFORE the accident happens?

You are a dangerous idiot. The kind of dangerous idiot who advocates laxity, inattention, and a dumbing down of skill to the bare ability to control machinery all the while adhering to a set of rules that assumes that everyone is traveling at speeds less than that which will cause injury. Which is, incidentally, 20kph. That is the very upper limit at which the human body can come to a dead stop and consciousness inhabiting it can survive.

I have stopped before and I will do it again, when I have come upon a Police vehicle and another vehicle sitting on the side of the road and all doors are shut and the occupants are in the vehicles. The person pulled over is often aggreived and can do something dumb when they start off again. Cops often go from one call to the next. Better safe than sorry. I'm not saying it's saved my arse, but when I'm on a bike, the only guarantee I can give you is that it hurts when someone knocks you off, even when they don't mean it.

[bogan]

Fuck it must of been pretty bad, they have shrapnel all through their heads, he has the cigarette lighter embedded in his ear, and she's clearly ingested the airbags.

That's not the worst of it, he clearly was propelled through the firewall and had his chin in the brake fluid, and the power steering res upended on his head.

[nodrog]

That's not the worst of it, he clearly was propelled through the firewall and had his chin in the brake fluid, and the power steering res upended on his head.

No, I think that's what happens when you get drunk and fuck a My Little Pony, up the Arse.

[Katman]

I was hit by a u turning driver myself and some on here said I would not have been hit if I had anticipation skills which another poster on here is trotting out to mean mind reading ability of other drivers who he has claimed 90% of motorcyclists have and over 50% of car drivers have.

A car cannot perform a U-turn without giving away clues.

You clearly weren't paying attention.

[dangerous]

farks wrong with the cop... they could have easly U turned and made it through that kids ear lobe with out crashing... shits with that self mutalation crap any way :lol:

[nodrog]

A car cannot perform a U-turn without giving away clues.

You clearly weren't paying attention.
over react much?


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc8_1414943701

[HenryDorsetCase]

Tadvocates laxity, inattention, and a dumbing down of skill to the bare ability to control machinery all the while adhering to a set of rules that assumes that everyone is traveling at speeds less than that which will cause injury.

Dude, harsh. Thats always worked for *crash* me...

[HenryDorsetCase]

No, I think that's what happens when you get drunk and fuck a My Little Pony, up the Arse.

yeah nah thats NOT how you get a unicorn. DAMHIK

[Katman]

No, I think that's what happens when you get drunk and fuck a My Little Pony, up the Arse.


yeah nah thats NOT how you get a unicorn. DAMHIK

That's a shame.

<img src="https://multiplospop.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/robocop-riding-a-unicorn.jpg"/>

[Swoop]

I think it was a Marlborough cop that killed 1 or 2 motorcyclists by U turning some years back. If the car driver had had "anticipation skills" like some on here he would not have got hit.

No. Wrong again.
The cop did not kill the two riders but certainly put them in hospital with very serious injuries.
He pulled a U-turn in a gorge which said manoeuvre could never happen. A three point turn was the only thing possible in that space.

[awayatc]

. I was hit by a u turning driver myself .

Can't blame him......
Was probably not an accident...
just somebody who knew you and your charming ways....?

[MD]

over react much?


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bc8_1414943701

No surprises there. That was a bunch of Asian drivers. Shit they really are useless at basic car control.

So the white car starts to move right towards the camera car's lane by a metre or so, didn't even get to cross the lane markings, no impact, no need for major panic stations. But no, alas, the camera car driver demonstrates their piss poor car control and over reacts, slams into the railing and then half the other cars on the bridge! He was probably driving to the airport to fly to NZ and rent a camper van so he can swerve out of control all over our roads

[EJK]

Don't worry, they are emos. They will kill themselves eventually.

[bogan]

I honestly think you should give up riding if you spend your whole time seeking out and anticipating real or imagined crashes as riding can not be much fun with your mind focussed on potential crashes all the time. That's very brave of you to offer assistance to cops if you think they might get attacked by angry motorists. Keep in mind though if they attacked the cop they would likely also attack you. I guess in comparison to you I have a positive attitude when I ride and for some weird reason you think that is not being in control. If there is any particular group of motorcyclists that I feel you should be concerned about its the multivehicle overtaking (under pressure) group riders and if you have never seen any you need to come down to ChCh and ride the ChCh to Akaroa Rd any Saturday or Sunday. That's what I call dangerous riding and I have actually seen it unlike your dreamt up perception of my riding ability.

And this is where the troll crosses the line. I'm glad people are still responding to you, your attempts to teach other people bad riding techniques just to get a reaction are absolutely despicable; but at least others here care enough about safer riding techniques to keep correcting you.

[Berries]

I honestly think you should give up riding if you spend your whole time seeking out and anticipating real or imagined crashes as riding can not be much fun with your mind focussed on potential crashes all the time.
And there you have it. Advice from someone who rides around (allegedly) in a world of their own who relies on everyone else to do the right thing and who has no concept whatsoever of defensive riding.

[Ender EnZed]

I honestly think you should give up riding if you spend your whole time seeking out and anticipating real or imagined crashes as riding can not be much fun with your mind focussed on potential crashes all the time. That's very brave of you to offer assistance to cops if you think they might get attacked by angry motorists. Keep in mind though if they attacked the cop they would likely also attack you. I guess in comparison to you I have a positive attitude when I ride and for some weird reason you think that is not being in control. If there is any particular group of motorcyclists that I feel you should be concerned about its the multivehicle overtaking (under pressure) group riders and if you have never seen any you need to come down to ChCh and ride the ChCh to Akaroa Rd any Saturday or Sunday. That's what I call dangerous riding and I have actually seen it unlike your dreamt up perception of my riding ability.

You're a fucking retard.

[swbarnett]

I honestly think you should give up riding if you spend your whole time seeking out and anticipating real or imagined crashes as riding can not be much fun with your mind focussed on potential crashes all the time.
I've highlighted in bold the bit where you fail. Yes, to start with your mind is occupied with crash avoidance. After a while it becomes second nature and you conscious mind is once again free to enjoy the journey.

Not doing this is simply a riskier way to ride. Whether that risk is acceptable is up to the individual.

[awayatc]

I honestly think you should give up riding if you spend your whole time seeking out and anticipating real or imagined crashes as riding can not be much fun with your mind focussed on potential crashes all the time.

Good thing is that if you ride as you proclaim , we won't have to suffer you much longer.
You will have to become just another statistic....
just hoping you won't take some poor sod with you..

every day you put that helmet on is like playing Russian roulette...
speaking of helmet...you sure you need one ?

[RDJ]

With individual honourable exceptions, the police are basically presently engaged in full-on efforts to protect themselves as the primary function of their everyday roles.

Their (policymakers) are no longer primarily concerned at either a policy and operational level, with serving or protecting the public who pay their salaries and employ them.

This is clearly demonstrated by both the policies that direct them, and the individual actions of many police-car drivers.