Adventure gear - what are you wearing?

[Night Falcon]

Need a new jacket and thinking about a compression suit and enduro jacket.
Considering the Klim Traverse jacket with Leatt foam or plastic pressure suit or should I just stick with the adv type jacket setup? Protection is my no1 priority, which both these options have, but the snugger fitting armour of a compression top is appealing.

Have never worn a compression suit before but from what I've read the newer foam gear is pretty comfy and not overly hot to wear. My last Dri-Rider jacket,destroyed in my crash, performed well but had zero chest protection - which is why I'm contemplating a bit more armour.

Anyone using/used this type of setup? (I asked this question in the Gear section with 82 views and no responses, so maybe nobody's ever contemplated this before for ADV riding?)

[clint640]

I recently upgraded my jacket to an RST paragon, same as R650R's, but have been using it with the armour stripped out over a cheap Axo pressure suit. It works pretty well - when hot just take off the jacket entirely & as soon as you get moving it's almost as cool as riding in a t-shirt. When cold add a few extra layers & it's nice and warm, the waterproofing seems good. Haven't crash tested it yet but it's gotta be good for that. Pressure suit is comfortable. Only downside is having to put on / take off 2 layers rather than 1.

Over winter I will probably put the armour back in the jacket & use it like that.

The Klim Traverse does look like a good shell option, $$$ though & I wanted a bit more of a winter focus to my jacket.

I've settled on a similar strategy for pants - mx knee armour, mx pants or some old cordura road pants with the lining & knee armour stripped out. Extra layers + waterproof overtrou for when its wet/cold.

Cheers
Clint

[Eddieb]

I use a DRIRIDER AIR RIDE 2 MESH JACKET in summer and love the fit. It has a rain liner which acts as a good wind resistance layer for a little extra warmth. I have similiar pants from another brand which unfortunately aren't available anymore as they rock.

http://motorcyclegear.co.nz/2012-dririder-air-ride-2-mesh-jacket-mens-ladies.html

http://motorcyclegear.co.nz/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/500x/602f0fa2c1f0d1ba5e241f914e856ff9/k/e/kernel_images_actualrender.asp_strimagecode_41.623 6.jpg

[Oscar]

I got a Leatt Pro Jacket for summer riding, which I would rate as about 7 out of 10 at keeping the rain out.
I need a new cold weather/rain jacket though.

I found some KTM riding pants on sale in Sydney and these are great (you need to add knee protection, though).

[Night Falcon]

Lots of jackets have 2 liners these days for weather and warmth. My last Dri Rider only had a thermal liner but I never got wet in it, even in heavy rain. They went with the separate liner so you can remove it to enable the jacket to breathe more in hot weather but there are a few obstacles with that set up for me:

1. They rain liner is flimsy and easy to damage especially if your wearing armour
2. The breathable outer jacket gets water logged
3. More zippers

I like the Leatt 3DF airfit compression suit although at $300.00 its not cheap; add in a $450.00 Traverse jacket and its about the price of a top quality adv jacket, like the Revit Sand2, great jacket but two liners again. Klim Badlands is the bees kees but $1400. I like the idea of a jacket with built-in hydration compatibility, as it does away with my camel back, but cant find a gortex enduro jacket that has one?

I bought some Alpinestars Gortex Excursion pants; good knee and hip protection - but will likely remove the knee pads and use braces like Clint. I find it near impossible to keep knee pads in pants in the right place. My Tech10 boots were repaired and I have a new XD4 helmet so just the jacket decision and I'm all set. :cool:

[clint640]

x2 on removable internal rain liners being a dumb idea, they only do it like that cos it's cheap & easy to make vs a zip off outer.

If you want to get something with a pocket for your camelbak try it on with a full bladder in it (no not that one:rolleyes:) My old jacket had a little backpack thing that clipped on but it pulled the front of the jacket up into my neck when even lightly loaded so I never used it. I have heard similar complaints from people with hydration equipped jackets.

Cheers
Clint

[Night Falcon]

If you want to get something with a pocket for your camelbak try it on with a full bladder in it (no not that one:rolleyes:) My old jacket had a little backpack thing that clipped on but it pulled the front of the jacket up into my neck when even lightly loaded so I never used it. I have heard similar complaints from people with hydration equipped jackets.

Cheers
Clint

That's good intel. My bride repaired my camelback bag but the bladder was torn so have to get a new one and thought it would be easier to incorporate in the jacket.....maybe a water bottle or two in my tank bag is the way to go?

[Oscar]

That's good intel. My bride repaired my camelback bag but the bladder was torn so have to get a new one and thought it would be easier to incorporate in the jacket.....maybe a water bottle or two in my tank bag is the way to go?

Kathmandu make a real good water bladder.
http://www.kathmandu.co.nz/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/450x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/6/1/61525_hydrationbladder_wlp-pro_602.jpg

It has a nice wide opening for cleaning and is shaped so as not balloon out when full.
Tip - chuck it in the freezer when not in use - it stops stuff growing in the tube or bladder.

[Crim]

Tip - chuck it in the freezer when not in use - it stops stuff growing in the tube or bladder.

great tip! - will chuck it in there when I get home

[Night Falcon]

Kathmandu make a real good water bladder.

It has a nice wide opening for cleaning and is shaped so as not balloon out when full.
Tip - chuck it in the freezer when not in use - it stops stuff growing in the tube or bladder.

spooky....just saw one of those at Kathmandu in Hastings - nice bit of kit and 50% off at the moment :yes:

Was checking out their gortex jacket range but meh...nothing really suitable - by comparison the Klim Traverse jacket is pretty good value I thought.

[Oscar]

great tip! - will chuck it in there when I get home

Yes, I learned it the hard way.
I had a hydration pack that looked like a feckin' rain forest was growing inside...

[Waihou Thumper]

Yes, I learned it the hard way.
I had a hydration pack that looked like a feckin' rain forest was growing inside...

Like filtering the water....:) for ya...

[Waihou Thumper]

Was browsing the Net over Christmas and found this on Trade Me....
The right size, brand spanking new....with tags...$190!!

Zippered sleeves too.

308476

[Big Dog]

Yes, I learned it the hard way.
I had a hydration pack that looked like a feckin' rain forest was growing inside...

When it has already gotten away on ya, if you don't want to buy the tabs at $20: warm water, premix with household bleach, one teaspoon per litre, and a teaspoon of salt or malt vinegar.
Make sure you don't still have liquid in the hose. Fill her up and burp her.

When the water has gone cold leave for a further 2 hours. Tip the bag out and re fill full with warm water.
Squeeze the bag and open the bite block until mostly empty. Tip the rest out.
Repeat last step.
Fill with cold water.
Can you taste the salt or the vinegar?
Yes? Repeat the flush step.
No? Your done. Commence using, or freeze it for another day.

Pro tip 1/3-1/2 fill the bag first so you have cold water most of the day next time you fill it.

Source: I'm a tight bastard with no other use for specialist pipe cleaners or tablets.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Night Falcon]

Pro tip 1/3-1/2 fill the bag first so you have cold water most of the day next time you fill it.


cool idea :whistle:

[Big Dog]

Chilling how quick the retort!
Nothing like freezing your assets.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Ocean1]

Yes, I learned it the hard way.
I had a hydration pack that looked like a feckin' rain forest was growing inside...

Not enough vodka.

[Trials Rider]

Hi Guys
Great discussion on riding gear and the varying needs/ wants/ preferences of each rider.
If you add up the cost of each item you are looking for it is surprising
Dri rider Adventure jacket $399.00
Leatt protection suit $300.00
Rain jacket dri rider $90.00
Camelback average $150.00
So we are up to $940.00

So for an extra $400.00 you get the best, Badlands Jacket 840 Codura, Goretex Pro, waterproof breathable all in one, complete with D30 armour – unmatched protection, integrated hydration pocket, pockets that stay dry, no need to layer up for the rain, you don’t get cold in the rain because the jacket doesn’t get wet or heavy, and now you have gone through that F%&ken rain storm and its sunny again, no need to layer down, just unzip some vents and rock on.

http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=5

Yes I love my Klim Badlands

[Waihou Thumper]

If you add up the cost of each item you are looking for it is surprising
Dri rider Adventure jacket $399.00
Yes I love my Klim Badlands

That's why I waited and sure enough one came up brand new unworn with tags for $190...:)
I love my Dri rider....:)

I actually contacted Dri rider seller and he promised to get a jacket in for me to try out.
I was prepared to pay the $399 plus...
BUT, never called, never followed up, so they lost out. AND as fate would have it found just what I was looking for anyway.
I cannot afford the high prices of Klim, as much as I want it, it is just too expensive here in New Zealand.
Good luck selling and promoting it though, it is nice kit. Just a tad pricey here.

[pete376403]

Boots? Most MX boots have a smooth sole, hopeless for when you need to push the bike in mud. I've got some Forma (ex trademe, no idea of the model) that are semi-ok but a bit too small. Apart from obviously getting the right size, what other recommendations can you offer?

[Trials Rider]

That's why I waited and sure enough one came up brand new unworn with tags for $190...:)
I love my Dri rider....:)

I actually contacted Dri rider seller and he promised to get a jacket in for me to try out.
I was prepared to pay the $399 plus...
BUT, never called, never followed up, so they lost out. AND as fate would have it found just what I was looking for anyway.
I cannot afford the high prices of Klim, as much as I want it, it is just too expensive here in New Zealand.
Good luck selling and promoting it though, it is nice kit. Just a tad pricey here.



Yes agree a big difference in price, and your gear has to be paid for by hard earned cash however once you have worn the Klim gear it is very nice to have the Goretex and all the practical features, and being totally honest we have sold a lot more gear than we anticipated and budgeted for which has blown us away really but it shows there is a market for all levels of riding kit.

I had one customer come to see me and his words were, I am sick of getting F&%ken wet, I am sick of getting F&%ken cold, I can't be F&%ked layering up, I have bought so much shit over the years because it was cheap.

I must admit I wanted to employ him to sell some gear

[Night Falcon]

Boots? Most MX boots have a smooth sole, hopeless for when you need to push the bike in mud. I've got some Forma (ex trademe, no idea of the model) that are semi-ok but a bit too small. Apart from obviously getting the right size, what other recommendations can you offer?

I don't mind the old slip in the mud (although try to avoid mud whenever I can) for the added ankle protection of my Tech10 boots. I broke an ankle and 3 metatarsal bones in my foot wearing a pair of comfy "adventure" boots that had little support when it counted - I do confess I've become a bit of an anti-adventure boot internet troll - think they were Forma boots I was wearing but they were cheap at the time.....an oh so comfy:devil2:

[Waihou Thumper]

I don't mind the old slip in the mud (although try to avoid mud whenever I can) for the added ankle protection of my Tech10 boots. I broke an ankle and 3 metatarsal bones in my foot wearing a pair of comfy "adventure" boots that had little support when it counted - I do confess I've become a bit of an anti-adventure boot internet troll - think they were Forma boots I was wearing but they were cheap at the time.....an oh so comfy:devil2:

I got Caterpillar boots, nice tread and steel toes. Very comfortable. I also have some Timberland Pro boots, 8 inch and these are the bees knees...
I want something I can walk around in, go inside and eat wearing them without looking like a plonker :)
These are very comfortable on the bikes as well as Draggin jeans and I also got some Cordura Carhatt carpenters dungarees. Perfect for the bike. If it rains, I open up the top box and slip into the
waterproof RD1 obtained wet weather gear.

Some motorcycle specific equipment/clothing/boots just don't cut the mustard anymore and the prices do not indicate quality or fit for purpose....
Learn from the rural sector and the contacting sector....I did...:)

[Ocean1]

Boots? Most MX boots have a smooth sole, hopeless for when you need to push the bike in mud. I've got some Forma (ex trademe, no idea of the model) that are semi-ok but a bit too small. Apart from obviously getting the right size, what other recommendations can you offer?

I've been trying to wear out my Gaerne Aquatechs so I could justify buying another pair of these:http://www.fc-moto.de/Gaerne-Balance-Oiled-Brown-Trial-Boot

Unless you're planning a lot of MX hours you just can't beat them.

[Trials Rider]

Boots? Most MX boots have a smooth sole, hopeless for when you need to push the bike in mud. I've got some Forma (ex trademe, no idea of the model) that are semi-ok but a bit too small. Apart from obviously getting the right size, what other recommendations can you offer?

The bigger issue for me is how flexible the sole is, if I am standing a lot I prefer my enduro boots for the support, if I am sitting more I am happy with the adventure boots.

[Oscar]

I don't mind the old slip in the mud (although try to avoid mud whenever I can) for the added ankle protection of my Tech10 boots. I broke an ankle and 3 metatarsal bones in my foot wearing a pair of comfy "adventure" boots that had little support when it counted - I do confess I've become a bit of an anti-adventure boot internet troll - think they were Forma boots I was wearing but they were cheap at the time.....an oh so comfy:devil2:

I have to agree.
I have a nice pair of Alpine Star Adv boots and I found out the hard way that they lack crash protection.
Bruised the crap out of both ankles when I had an unscheduled lay down on my 950.

[bart]

Yes, I learned it the hard way.
I had a hydration pack that looked like a feckin' rain forest was growing inside...

I always put mine away full, with no bubbles. Most bugs need air to grow. After about 4 years it started tasting a bit off, so ran some 'home brew' bottle steriliser through it (about $4 from the supermarket). Seems to work well, and a small bottle of powder steriliser should be enough for about 20 cleans.

[Big Dog]

Boots? Most MX boots have a smooth sole, hopeless for when you need to push the bike in mud. I've got some Forma (ex trademe, no idea of the model) that are semi-ok but a bit too small. Apart from obviously getting the right size, what other recommendations can you offer?

I may not have done a lot of adventure riding but:
I have a set of fox Trackers I really like but when I wore out one of my sets of Gaerne Aquatechs I had a hiking sole out on. Perfect for the rides where gravel, tar and mud sections are in equal measure. They make kickstarting a toes affair though if you don't want to twist your ankle as there is so much grip.

Trackers while "old stock" and unfashionable are better for bush bashing. Still have the kick start tread rather than the newer flat sole.

Gaerne - 1 pair fucked boots plus $55 for a resolve and leather recondition. The heel needs reglueing after approx 10,000 kms of mostly road use.
Fox - Brand spankers on clearance $99

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Trials Rider]

I always put mine away full, with no bubbles. Most bugs need air to grow. After about 4 years it started tasting a bit off, so ran some 'home brew' bottle steriliser through it (about $4 from the supermarket). Seems to work well, and a small bottle of powder steriliser should be enough for about 20 cleans.

Shit you are doing that the hard way, I just drain it out and stick it in the freezer, works a treat, no greenies, no goobies, thaw it out and ready to rock

[Big Dog]

I have to agree.
I have a nice pair of Alpine Star Adv boots and I found out the hard way that they lack crash protection.
Bruised the crap out of both ankles when I had an unscheduled lay down on my 950.

The eternal trade off: comfort vs protection.

Sounds like how my first 3 kids came into my life. :doh:


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Tazz]

Man great thread.


I don't mind the old slip in the mud (although try to avoid mud whenever I can) for the added ankle protection of my Tech10 boots. I broke an ankle and 3 metatarsal bones in my foot wearing a pair of comfy "adventure" boots that had little support when it counted - I do confess I've become a bit of an anti-adventure boot internet troll - think they were Forma boots I was wearing but they were cheap at the time.....an oh so comfy:devil2:

Cheers for the insight into your experience. I definitely feel slightly over dressed but way safer in my MX boots, which are average at best but much better than my other current options.
I think any boot you can't spend a day standing on the pegs in is probably not going to do you any favours in a decent off, but they can put you off exploring around a bit off the bike.

Would love a pair of those hinged MX Sidis, but out of my reach price wise.

Was it you that had an off while wearing the same jacket Waihou Thumper mentioned? How did it hold up? Deanos got one the same but said the armour on the outside was a bit hopeless. Built in camel pack is cool though. One just went for $50 with a bunch of other gear thrown in.

[Waihou Thumper]

Man great thread.



Cheers for the insight into your experience. I definitely feel slightly over dressed but way safer in my MX boots, which are average at best but much better than my other current options.
I think any boot you can't spend a day standing on the pegs in is probably not going to do you any favours in a decent off, but they can put you off exploring around a bit off the bike.

Would love a pair of those hinged MX Sidis, but out of my reach price wise.

Was it you that had an off while wearing the same jacket Waihou Thumper mentioned? How did it hold up? Deanos got one the same but said the armour on the outside was a bit hopeless. Built in camel pack is cool though. One just went for $50 with a bunch of other gear thrown in.


Even Knights in medieval times fell off their steeds and I bet some hobbled away with broken bones...:)
I guess there is a trade off for comfort versus safety? these days...
Certainly it does depend on where and what you are doing....BUT, yes, you cannot foresee what lies around the corner or what might decide to gallop out at you.
Marty can attest to that.
The thing is though, whatever you decide and wear, you only know whether it will protect you in a fall, despite all the blurb, the AS/NZS, ANSI CE etc. Maybe the best thing is not to find out and do your damndest to prevent.
I work in an industry where all of the above is important but if you ain't trained or competent, it means diddly squat.
Afterall, all we are doing here is mitigating, and the price spent on this sometimes outways the sensibilities perhaps?

[Oscar]

Shit you are doing that the hard way, I just drain it out and stick it in the freezer, works a treat, no greenies, no goobies, thaw it out and ready to rock

Is there an echo in here?

[Arctic Wolfe]

Common sence says "Rather sweat than bleed" . . .so no compromise on gear.

All the Gear . . . . All the Time . . . . Every time.

[Oscar]

Common sence says "Rather sweat than bleed" . . .so no compromise on gear.

All the Gear . . . . All the Time . . . . Every time.

So you made it over here.
Tell the chaps your opinions on KTM's...

[Night Falcon]

Was it you that had an off while wearing the same jacket Waihou Thumper mentioned? How did it hold up? Deanos got one the same but said the armour on the outside was a bit hopeless. Built in camel pack is cool though. One just went for $50 with a bunch of other gear thrown in.

Mine was a Dri-rider Summit Pro Jacket so didn't have the external armour. The jacket saved my bacon from more serious injury, no doubt about it. Most of the impact was on the left side with general scuffing over the rest of it. I had a camelback on, which the medics cut off, but it survived pretty well with only scuffing to the straps - burst the bladder though.

The key thing was the internal armour stayed in place (mostly)and the jacket did not disintegrate from sliding down the road. Left shoulder pad did eventually come loose and shift when the seam ripped apart, so I lost some skin, but pretty minor; for a $300 jacket I have no complaints, it stood up very well.


The thing is though, whatever you decide and wear, you only know whether it will protect you in a fall, despite all the blurb, the AS/NZS, ANSI CE etc. Maybe the best thing is not to find out and do your damndest to prevent.


I concur! Hard impacts are going to hurt you no matter what you have on - BUT good gear WILL mean less recovery time. Every cent you think you cant afford when buying protective gear is spent a thousand fold after you crash in lost earnings, Insurance excesses, Physio part payments etc. etc.....so its a bit of a false economy, but we all have a budget to live with.


There is no shortage of gear that is comfortable to wear on a bike but believe me, comfort is a poor cousin to protection when it counts. The comfort trade-off isn't that unworkable with modern gear anyway. My personal, lesson driven, priority when budgeting for new gear is PROTECTION 1st, comfort 2nd......but then I've had more than the average number of hard spill lessons to learn from <_<

[bart]

Shit you are doing that the hard way, I just drain it out and stick it in the freezer, works a treat, no greenies, no goobies, thaw it out and ready to rock

Hard way? I don't have to remove the bladder from my pack. Just top up and put away in a dark cupboard (light makes shit grow too). Drain and fill when you're ready to ride.

After my missus has been rumaging in the freezer, the bladder would always be at the bottom, under the pork roasts and porterhouse steaks.

[Trials Rider]

Hard way? I don't have to remove the bladder from my pack. Just top up and put away in a dark cupboard (light makes shit grow too). Drain and fill when you're ready to ride.

After my missus has been rumaging in the freezer, the bladder would always be at the bottom, under the pork roasts and porterhouse steaks.

Ha yeah, not a good idea to turn up to a ride with a frozen porterhouse

[Night Falcon]

Hard way? I don't have to remove the bladder from my pack. Just top up and put away in a dark cupboard (light makes shit grow too). Drain and fill when you're ready to ride.

After my missus has been rumaging in the freezer, the bladder would always be at the bottom, under the pork roasts and porterhouse steaks.

pork roasts and porterhouse steak.........wanna swap freezers Bart? we got loads of sausages and mixed vegies :shifty:

[bart]

pork roasts and porterhouse steak.........wanna swap freezers Bart? we got loads of sausages and mixed vegies :shifty:

The perks of being broke and having generous family who own a farm. :bleh:

[MarkH]

pork roasts and porterhouse steak.........wanna swap freezers Bart? we got loads of sausages and mixed vegies :shifty:

Vegies aren't food, vegies are what food eats!

[MarkH]

I'm new to dual sport riding and was thinking of buying a textile jacket & pants for the purpose of this sort of riding.
Does anyone have any experience with Scott gear?
Looking at fcmoto I can see some adventure gear that seems OK by the description and would only cost $300 for the jacket and pants.

I'd actually like to buy the Klim badlands jacket and pants but $2400 is a bit much to spend right now.

[Night Falcon]

I'm new to dual sport riding and was thinking of buying a textile jacket & pants for the purpose of this sort of riding.
Does anyone have any experience with Scott gear?
Looking at fcmoto I can see some adventure gear that seems OK by the description and would only cost $300 for the jacket and pants.

I'd actually like to buy the Klim badlands jacket and pants but $2400 is a bit much to spend right now.

Don't know about the scott gear except they do a lot of MX stuff. If your after good value jacket and pants combo you could check out the Dririder stuff or Neo which is available here in NZ from heaps of places. Trade me has some good deals in the gear section, or have a look at Cycletreads site, they're always having specials.

[RMOTO]

Need a new jacket and thinking about a compression suit and enduro jacket.

Each to their own but that's certainly my pick for the best protection. On long trips a pressure suit can be a bit of a pain in the butt as it adds extra time to stripping base layers to match the air temp/riding terrain plus gearing up in the morning and gearing down at night but to me the protection is worth the effort in the long run.


Considering the Klim Traverse jacket with Leatt foam or plastic pressure suit or should I just stick with the adv type jacket setup?

The Klim Traverse (http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=6&aff=rm&tc=bp)is priced the way it is because it is good; and worth every cent. It has been outstanding at keeping me dry it the heaviest of West Coast torrential rain. It is basic, but brilliant if staying dry on wet days and staying cool on hot days is important to you. I team this jacket up with a Thor Impact Rig (http://www.remotemoto.com/articles/thor-impact-rig-armored-shirt/) and it provides great weather protection, body protection and good ventilation for hot days.

I recently purchased a Klim Latitude (http://www.remotemoto.com/articles/klim-latitude-jacket/) jacket which is a step up from the Traverse if you want a little more functionality. It is a heavier grade material with even better ventilation plus D30 armour which can be removed to use as a shell jacket also. A little pricier but a simply a great jacket and worth paying for if you want to be comfortable, protected and dry. Lets not forget how cool they look too :cool:

I don't have any photos of my Latitude gear, but here is a video of me wearing it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-j3A7fQypk), it's nice looking gear

As for boots, the SIDI Gortex Adventure Rain Boots (http://www.remotemoto.com/articles/sidi-adventure-gore-tex/) have been great for both protection and ability to walk reasonable distances with the hinged ankle

And that's my 2 cents :msn-wink:

[MarkH]

The Klim Traverse (http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=6&aff=rm&tc=bp)is priced the way it is because it is good; and worth every cent. It has been outstanding at keeping me dry it the heaviest of West Coast torrential rain. It is basic, but brilliant if staying dry on wet days and staying cool on hot days is important to you.

I have been trying to decide what to buy, I'm thinking that the Traverse Jacket and Traverse Pants are probably what I'll buy, motomox has a price close enough to the overseas sites so I'd definitely look at buying from them.
However: Currently I don't have the necessary money and I really need to get something.
I'm thinking about getting a jacket and pants that may not be suitable for winter but are decent in Summer, by winter I should have the money for the Klim Traverse gear.
Or maybe just get something affordable and use it later as a backup set of gear.

TBH I'm not a huge fan of Dririder, they seem to be average to poor quality in my experience.
This looks a bit better than Dririder for a similar price: http://motorcyclegear.co.nz/rst-jacket-alpha-2-textile.html
RST seems to have a better reputation for quality, maybe it would be worth giving them a try.
These pants would probably do the trick too: http://motorcyclegear.co.nz/roadbike-gear/mens/pants-1/textile/rst-pants-adventure-textile.html

[Night Falcon]

The Klim Traverse (http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=6&aff=rm&tc=bp)is priced the way it is because it is good; and worth every cent. It has been outstanding at keeping me dry it the heaviest of West Coast torrential rain. It is basic, but brilliant if staying dry on wet days and staying cool on hot days is important to you. I team this jacket up with a Thor Impact Rig (http://www.remotemoto.com/articles/thor-impact-rig-armored-shirt/) and it provides great weather protection, body protection and good ventilation for hot days.

I recently purchased a Klim Latitude (http://www.remotemoto.com/articles/klim-latitude-jacket/) jacket which is a step up from the Traverse if you want a little more functionality. It is a heavier grade material with even better ventilation plus D30 armour which can be removed to use as a shell jacket also. A little pricier but a simply a great jacket and worth paying for if you want to be comfortable, protected and dry. Lets not forget how cool they look too :cool:

I don't have any photos of my Latitude gear, but here is a video of me wearing it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-j3A7fQypk), it's nice looking gear



Cheers for that. Like the feedback on the traverse jacket so will likely go that way.

One question I asked Paul was how the fit is as an adv jacket? - Have no doubts it will keep the rain and wind out but It would need to accommodate a compression suit plus another couple layers during the odd winter blat around The Bay. Have you worn yours as a winter jacket and did you buy oversized to allow for extra layering? According to Revzilla's video it is quite loose fitting although I don't want a big baggy jacket for summer.....maybe I'm asking too much of an enduro jacket?

[flashg]

Shit you are doing that the hard way, I just drain it out and stick it in the freezer, works a treat, no greenies, no goobies, thaw it out and ready to rock


+1 In this warmer weather i fill the bladder half full, blow air through hose " to clear water" then lay flat in freezer. Then when i want it, take out run cold water over it then fill it completely. Nice iced water and last's ages.

[pampa]

kinda late but here i go
* I wear Leatt pressure Armour find it quite comfortable and is effective, as it is the other Armour I have and also use (can't remember brand). I have tried them many times with good result.
* Fox titanium knee pads (not braces).
* The Jacket is RevIt adventure and wouldn't buy it again. It allows the water bladder to be attached.
* THe other Jacket is a Axo which and also allows the water bladder to be attached.
* Same with BMW rally 2 pants, although they're good quality and very good padding they're not waterproof on the outside. I find that not ideal.
* also use camelback 2L which is essential for me as I drink lots of water
* AStar 8 boots
* Various gloves (me like gloves :shifty:). I like the Fox Racing Bomber for hot riding (on longer rides I always take winter and summer gloves they light and easy to carry)

The thing with pants and Jacket is they need for me to be waterproof but well ventilated as once you get on the slow pace places it gets warm quickly

BTW Take a look at Klim Overland bit up than Latitude but down from Badlands.

[fridayflash]

intersting coming across this thread marty, id been thinking the same thing lately, i have a fox enduro jacket which i like bit it has no armour so ive just ordered a compression suit a few days ago, should be here tmw with some luck, good to have the extra protection that you know will stay put
im thinkin i could remove the foam armour from my technic jacket and wear that over the compression jacket also..when its colder and or more likely to rain on me! same thing with motocross pants..tempting to wear them in hotter weather but gotta have decent knee/shin guards and at least some form of foam armour for the hips

[Night Falcon]

intersting coming across this thread marty, id been thinking the same thing lately, i have a fox enduro jacket which i like bit it has no armour so ive just ordered a compression suit a few days ago,


kinda late but here i go
* I wear Leatt pressure Armour find it quite comfortable and is effective, as it is the other Armour I have and also use (can't remember brand). I have tried them many times with good.

Thanx for posting your gear preferences Amigos. What type of armour was it your using guys? Foam or plastic? Funny thing all this talk on compression and I just had my shoulder Decompressed yesterday :laugh:

[fridayflash]

shit, you were up late...or is that early? lol howd the latest hospo visit go? as far as armour goes, the one i bought is a generic non branded zip up job with plastc armour...yes it was cheap on trademe :devil2: i just thought well, at that price i can afford to test my theory, with a bit of luck itll be fairly comfortable and breathe ok. surely its gotta be better than my old fox throwover job from the eighties :rolleyes:
also the new zip up job will (providing its bearable to wear) will also serve duty for when trail riding too:scooter:

[Night Falcon]

yup agree Ed, armour plus jacket combo gives lots of options. My only concern was the comfort of the armour but most guys say its pretty good.

Lots of folks are quite happily using plastic armour from what I can tell, although the foam gear is getting more popular. One comment was stones don't ricochet off the foam so its better as a roost guard. As I've never worn either I have know idea so appreciate your efforts as my surrogate lab rat :laugh:

Bit early to judge the success of the hospital visit but my surgeon said it went well so hopefully will see some real progress in the recovery. :Punk:

[RMOTO]

Cheers for that. Like the feedback on the traverse jacket so will likely go that way.

One question I asked Paul was how the fit is as an adv jacket? - Have no doubts it will keep the rain and wind out but It would need to accommodate a compression suit plus another couple layers during the odd winter blat around The Bay. Have you worn yours as a winter jacket and did you buy oversized to allow for extra layering? According to Revzilla's video it is quite loose fitting although I don't want a big baggy jacket for summer.....maybe I'm asking too much of an enduro jacket?

Hi ya Night Falcon

Revzilla's vid is not on the mark for fitting, I had to send mine back to get different sizes (before Paul was the NZ Klim disributor) as Anthony said it is loose fitting when it is not. To measure for Klim gear I wear all my thermal layers plus the compression suit then measure my chest and order according to the Klim size charts.

I like it as a winter shell jacket, it is lightweight yet robust, comfortable, it has good pocket and vent placement, but most importantly it keeps me dry and that's the most important thing. I am now riding with the Klim Latitude which is a step up and I enjoy this a little more however both the Traverse and Latitude have proven to be equally waterproof.

Cheers

Josh

[Night Falcon]

Thanks Josh

Have decided to go with the traverse jacket with leatt 3DF airfit armour. Just need to sort a cool hot deal with our local Klim/Leatt man from the southern land. :shifty:

cheers
Marty.

[Trials Rider]

Thanks Josh

Have decided to go with the traverse jacket with leatt 3DF airfit armour. Just need to sort a cool hot deal with our local Klim/Leatt man from the southern land. :shifty:

cheers
Marty.

Hi Marty

Well it was the end of a long weekend and I am looking at the Traverse Jacket and the Leatt 3D Airfit and thought well time to give this a run. :wings:

Leatt 3D Airfit http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=190

I also got some new Dakar in boot enduro pants :D and Dakar Gloves :woohoo: so I have had fun with the wardrobe this weekend, oh and a new helmet.:cool:

Pants http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=30#prod_images

Gloves http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=29

Helmet http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=158

Now interestingly the old armour I had was fox which was good armour but bulky so I would have needed a large Traverse jacket, my Badass jacket is Medium, I put on the Leatt 3D and a Medium Traverse jacket and it all fitted nicely so off for a ride to trail test it, and then off to the cemetery to get more flowers for Deb. :shit:

OK what did I find on the trail, no flowers for Deb but maybe next time :no: however the Traverse jacket has a stack load of room to articulate because it is moving separate to the armour, the Leatt 3D Airfit is very comfortable to wear and all the padding is locked in the right place.

Technical shit

The Badass Jacket weighs 3.2kgs,

The Traverse and 3D together weighs 2.7kgs so about 500 grams lighter.

Overall it is a great combination, nice fitting armour, plenty of room to move and plenty of ventilation from the Traverse jacket.

And the Dakar pants with the big front vents are awesome.

Big thumbs up, works well :2thumbsup:2thumbsup

Will be in touch

[Night Falcon]

Hey Paul, that's some cool gear but anit ya'll in danger of becoming like the hungry baker that went broke eating all his own donuts?:Oops:

look forward to hearing from ya.

[Trials Rider]

Hey Paul, that's some cool gear but anit ya'll in danger of becoming like the hungry baker that went broke eating all his own donuts?:Oops:

look forward to hearing from ya.

Oh yes, I have had my wee spend up so back to work :weep:

[BrendanZX9R]

you skinny fella's are lucky! You get the luxury of choosing your gear - us fatties just have to take what fits!!:laugh:

That said at 140 odd kgs and 6ft 3 I've managed to find what I feel safe and comfortable in. I wear a Shoei Hornet helmet, alpinestars cape town air jacket and an older pair of teknic goretex cordura pants. My boots are sidi discoverys that my dad bought and used a couple of times before deciding he didn't like them and my gloves are dririder mesh gloves for summer and rev-it winter gloves for the colder months. I have a dririder rain jacket to go over the top if it totally piddles down. I've had it for years from when I was compensating for a less than perfect jacket - for what it packs down to I chuck it in on a longer ride just in case.
The key thing for me, along with getting what fits, was getting gear that will work should I have the misfortune of having an accident. My cousin was knocked off by a tourist on the wrong side of the road a few years back and owes his life to good gear, 14 broken bones but no abrasions, no neck/spinal injuries and no head injuries. Night Falcon said it earlier and I have to agree that protection should be the number one priority. Comfort and budget should follow next depending on whatever you consider the most important.

For me I feel I've got a good mix of comfort and protection at a fair price. I made do with what gear I had whilst I shopped around for a while. I was lucky to get the jacket for $250 at cyclespot Honda in Auckland when I was up there on a work trip (yes I skipped a meeting go to the bike shops!:shifty:

If I wasn't such a porker and hadn't just bought the alpinestars jacket I'd be really keen on dropping the coin on some klim gear, wonder if it would fit??

[BrendanZX9R]

you skinny fella's are lucky! You get the luxury of choosing your gear - us fatties just have to take what fits!!:laugh:

That said at 140 odd kgs and 6ft 3 I've managed to find what I feel safe and comfortable in. I wear a Shoei Hornet helmet, alpinestars cape town air jacket and an older pair of teknic goretex cordura pants. My boots are sidi discoverys that my dad bought and used a couple of times before deciding he didn't like them and my gloves are dririder mesh gloves for summer and rev-it winter gloves for the colder months. I have a dririder rain jacket to go over the top if it totally piddles down. I've had it for years from when I was compensating for a less than perfect jacket - for what it packs down to I chuck it in on a longer ride just in case.
The key thing for me, along with getting what fits, was getting gear that will work should I have the misfortune of having an accident. My cousin was knocked off by a tourist on the wrong side of the road a few years back and owes his life to good gear, 14 broken bones but no abrasions, no neck/spinal injuries and no head injuries. Night Falcon said it earlier and I have to agree that protection should be the number one priority. Comfort and budget should follow next depending on whatever you consider the most important.

For me I feel I've got a good mix of comfort and protection at a fair price. I made do with what gear I had whilst I shopped around for a while. I was lucky to get the jacket for $250 at cyclespot Honda in Auckland when I was up there on a work trip (yes I skipped a meeting go to the bike shops!:shifty:

If I wasn't such a porker and hadn't just bought the alpinestars jacket I'd be really keen on dropping the coin on some klim gear, wonder if it would fit??

[Trials Rider]

you skinny fella's are lucky! You get the luxury of choosing your gear - us fatties just have to take what fits!!:laugh:

That said at 140 odd kgs and 6ft 3 I've managed to find what I feel safe and comfortable in. I wear a Shoei Hornet helmet, alpinestars cape town air jacket and an older pair of teknic goretex cordura pants. My boots are sidi discoverys that my dad bought and used a couple of times before deciding he didn't like them and my gloves are dririder mesh gloves for summer and rev-it winter gloves for the colder months. I have a dririder rain jacket to go over the top if it totally piddles down. I've had it for years from when I was compensating for a less than perfect jacket - for what it packs down to I chuck it in on a longer ride just in case.
The key thing for me, along with getting what fits, was getting gear that will work should I have the misfortune of having an accident. My cousin was knocked off by a tourist on the wrong side of the road a few years back and owes his life to good gear, 14 broken bones but no abrasions, no neck/spinal injuries and no head injuries. Night Falcon said it earlier and I have to agree that protection should be the number one priority. Comfort and budget should follow next depending on whatever you consider the most important.

For me I feel I've got a good mix of comfort and protection at a fair price. I made do with what gear I had whilst I shopped around for a while. I was lucky to get the jacket for $250 at cyclespot Honda in Auckland when I was up there on a work trip (yes I skipped a meeting go to the bike shops!:shifty:

If I wasn't such a porker and hadn't just bought the alpinestars jacket I'd be really keen on dropping the coin on some klim gear, wonder if it would fit??

Ha Love it, I am at the other end, short and weak :eek5: my own shadow scares me:lol: when buying riding gear it is easier but when I buy a bike my biggest consideration is can I cut 40mm out of the set so I can touch the ground and if I drop it can I pick it up, I was lucky enough to have Shrek with me when I needed a crane to lift the DR650 out of a rut

[BrendanZX9R]

Ha Love it, I am at the other end, short and weak :eek5: my own shadow scares me:lol: when buying riding gear it is easier but when I buy a bike my biggest consideration is can I cut 40mm out of the set so I can touch the ground and if I drop it can I pick it up, I was lucky enough to have Shrek with me when I needed a crane to lift the DR650 out of a rut

I guess there are some advantages to being a big fella. I'm lucky enough to be able to touch the ground on most bikes pretty easy, and if I have to then I can pick the 990 up - but I really don't want to make a habit of having to do that too often!

Gear has been the only problem for me, boots, gloves and helmets are fine, its just finding pants, jackets etc that can stretch over my ample assets!! There is gear available for bigger guys, but the choice is limited and often it lacks the features and safety you might expect.
But after a bit of looking I have to say I'm very pleased with the gear I have, especially at the price I paid.

[MarkH]

My RST Alpha 2 jacket and pants arrived today, not bad . . . for the price!
There is a definite downside to the cheaper gear though and I'll have to see if I can put enough money together before next summer for better stuff.
The pricier gear has things like vents and removable lining so you can keep comfortable in hotter weather, the cheaper gear often doesn't.
I guess you get what you pay for, pity most of us don't have the funds to always go for the very best.

[Night Falcon]

At some point I will need to think about new gloves - have some good ones for trail riding but adventure gloves are another quandary - my dri rider gloves were good except they always got soaked in the rain, then the inner lining would stick to your hands and pull out - trying to get it back into the fingers was never an easy feat :crazy: but they were comfy and had excellent armour. What you guys using?

in other news....

Klim jacket and Leatt 3d armour arrived yesterday - thanks motomox - armour fit is very comfortable and reasonably easy to put on and off (even with a dodgy shoulder) - makes you feel like Iron Man ;)

Had to send the Traverse jacket back as the size (L) was too small across the shoulders with the armour under it....XL will be about perfect I think. There is lots of room around the chest in the jacket but the shoulders are quite narrow - and I have narrow shoulders for a bloke....hence my modelling career never took off :crazy: Very impressed with the Klim quality and the storage pockets/capacity is just right for me.

[vegeman]

yo....I've been buying all the good stuff because I'm also sick of cheap stuff (mid life crisis), and with my US trip later this year...I'm justifying the extra expense anyway I can :-D

I've had the klim badlands for awhile now and have ridden them in all conditions. Things I've noticed. The jacket arms are quite narrow and by the time I add a fleece jacket for thermal warmth the forearms are damn snug...and I aint known for big arms (81Kg)!. Having All the vents are awesome for 30C plus days and make riding with a full goretex. full armour jacket brillant. I did notice that since the vent zips are the waterresistant type, they are quite a fine tooth, which means after a full day of hot, dusty conditions...the zips can get a bit clogged, which just means taking some care on zipping them back up ie stopping, and doing it nicely. The jacket occassionally leaks and lets some water through the arm zips but that because of high speed water forcing its way back up them, but hey...it's not much. I also thought about using the internal hydration pocket for the water bladder but it's a pain to refill...far easier to have an external camelbak, and plus I still have other gear to carry in it anyway.

The D30 armour has been really good...however, they don't like the cold and go hard as which means that until they warm up, the won't do shit for you. I've left my jacket on the balcony overnight when it was about 8C..and come the morning, the elbows would hardly bend. - just something to be aware of.

I've just notice a bit of leaking in the badland pants left leg which annoys the shit out of me. They used to be perfect, so I'm working my way through the official cleaning and reproofing (and checking for holes). I may have hit gorse bushes etc and made holes...but who knows . They don't leak in the crotch area which is the main thing.

I use Sidi crossfire boots. I like full length MX boots style protection they offer, and the crossfire has an articulated ankle meaning you can walk when required. I've never struggled to walk/push in them AND wierdly they have to be the most waterproof boot I've ever had...amazing considering they aren't supposed to be. The badland pants fit fully overthem so its a nice combo.

I have alpine star goretex 365 gloves for most riding, plus a another set of alpine star summer gloves...not sure which ones, but a superbike version that still had carbon knuckles and well vented.

Shoei Hornet DS skidlid for puttin my noggin in...

Thats the main stuff...

[JATZ]

My Opinion.... :sunny:

Gloves... some sort of Fox MX gloves with hard protection across the knuckles, leather palms and thin enough to allow me to feel whats going on at my fingertips. Also, I don't have to take them off to take pics. They're getting pretty worn out though, with extra ventilation where it shouldn't be :msn-wink: I've been looking around in some shops and haven't found a set similar to replace them with yet. I have some thick BMW jobbies for the winter but find the inner liner a PITA when it gets wet, sometimes it's nigh on impossible to get the fingers to sit where they're supposed to sit.
Jacket and pants... Revit Sand II. Yes they have removable liners for rain and cold, but so what, it only takes a couple of minutes to put them in (so long as I remember to take them with me :facepalm: ) Certainly a step up from the cheap gear I was using. Enough vents to keep things cool on hot days, enough waterproofing to stop me getting wet from passing showers, and plenty of adjustments on the sleeves/waist/collar/cuffs. I've taken the knee protection out of the pants as I prefer to wear strap on knee/shin guards as they don't move.
Boots... some sort of Sidi MX thing I got of trademe years ago. Comfortable enough to wear for days on end, about as waterproof as a pair of socks, although it means the water drains away too, which is a bonus :D I wouldn't like to walk for kilometer after kilometer in them, but thats why I have a bike :niceone:

[Waipukbiker]

My few cents worth on gear, Forma Adventure Boots. A solid ,heavy duty boot, Very comfortable to walk in from day one, Deep treads for traction, A high boot with 3 strong over centre type straps and hooks. Absolutely storm proof. Ive ridden through surface water on roads with the water blasting back against the front of the boots and not one drop has ever got in. Revit sand pants II. Very comfortable, removable thermal and rain liners. Air vented, light and cool in the summer. Rain liner easy to zip in if required. Technic Freeway Jacket, Prob more of a roady jacket but very comfortable, 5 available vents that can be opened and you can feel the air circulating around inside, lovely on a hot day. Done up properly, this Jacket, like the boots is totally storm proof. The label says 100% waterproof and it is. Ive never had to use the thermal liner even in winter, I just use a Merino long sleeve top against the skin and a Polar fleece top and the jacket does the rest. With a Balaclava on and every thing done up right its air and water tight. Dri Rider Summer gloves, Very Comfortable with vents on top of the Knuckles. Dri Rider Winter Gloves, had the same problems with water getting in from the jacket sleeve and making it nearly impossible to get the fingers back in. Solved this by having the jacket sleeve on the outside and still able to keep it airtight, the jacket sleeve has a big Velcro strap which clamps it tight against the glove. Haven't tried this in heavy driving rain but try to avoid that anyway.

[Night Falcon]

Looks like the sticky glove problem is pretty universal. Tried putting sleeves over the gloves but water still got in plus went up ya arm - maybe the trick is to carry a cut-off knitting needle for finger realignment? hmmmm the newest adv riders "must-have" piece of kit :killingme

BOOTS:
I use Alpinestars Tech10 boots which are the comfortable-ist MX boots I've owned and easy to walk in, plus have arguably the best ankle support of any boot, the big BUT :shake:, socks & roman sandals are more waterproof. Sidi crossfires offer way better water protection from all accounts but I still prefer the Tech10's superior ankle protection, plus they are resole-able and repairable if damaged during the unlikely event of an emergency :rolleyes:

[Takataka]

Looks like the sticky glove problem is pretty universal. Tried putting sleeves over the gloves but water still got in plus went up ya arm - maybe the trick is to carry a cut-off knitting needle for finger realignment? hmmmm the newest adv riders "must-have" piece of kit :killingme


Yep same problem here with my Macna gloves. Total pain getting them back on. It is worth poking them back in with something cos there's nothing worse than gloves that are not seated properly. Problem is, just when you have it all sorted out and are about to start the engine, you hear a text come in and have to take one off again to check your phone :brick:

[Waihou Thumper]

you hear a text come in and have to take one off again to check your phone :brick:

And therein lies your problem? Cell phone and text messages? Turn it off and enjoy the ride without the distraction, surely!

[Big Dog]

Or when you are taking your gloves off and know them to be wet:
1 grab the middle finger and ring finger at the first knuckle curl your pinky and forefinger a little as you pull toward your pulling hand. Stop as soon as your fingers are clear of your grip.
2 grab your thumb at the first knuckle, if the forefinger did not slip free grab that too. Pull as if going around your fingers toward the pinky.

If you pinky slipped free your glove should come free in one motion with the gloves gizzards still inside the glove.


Works most if the time. Works best when your gloves have leaked proper. I can't remember the last time I had to push more than one finger back in.
3 if it did not grip the pinky and ring finger at the first knuckle and pull as if going around your finger tips to get to your thumb.




Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[JATZ]

Orrrrrrr.......
Put a couple of stitches in the finger tips (remove hand first).
Or try finger less gloves


Your welcome :D

[Tazz]

Just incase you don't see the rep Jatz try some Five RFX4 gloves on. Lightweight as but still have protection. The brand seems to have a good (but spendy-ish) range.


Yep same problem here with my Macna gloves. Total pain getting them back on. It is worth poking them back in with something cos there's nothing worse than gloves that are not seated properly. Problem is, just when you have it all sorted out and are about to start the engine, you hear a text come in and have to take one off again to check your phone :brick:

Just got to be careful taking them off, or last winter I wore thin woolen gloves as inner ones and didn't have that problem. Switching to thinsulate ones this winter.

On the text front, if you have an android get the radiodrive app (made by a dude on here) and some headphones, it reads them out to you so you only need to stop to reply or call someone if it is something important.
Not having to worry about time or that sort of stuff would be awesome, but not everyone is in a position that allows it.

[nooles]

Gidday guys , im currently in the market for new gear to take to Aussie with me for the APC Rally (Perth to Byron Bay). Being Aussie and most of the first 2 weeks being in the Desert im concerned about the heat and want a jacket that is going to keep me safe but also cool or warm at the same time. Being in Taranaki we dont have to many choices in regards to gear but a local shop in NP has a Dririder Multitek $399 and a Alpinestars Andes Jacket $399 in my size. Does anyone have or use these jackets and have any reviews on them. Once I get to Byron bay then im gunna ride round the outside so need a jacket for road miles as well. Cheers Neal

[rian]

i did a 6000km desert trip a few years back wearing the dri rider rally cross 2, jacket and pants.

they worked well in the heat and the cold.

hope this helps, if budget allows the klim gear is awesome, i use the dakar pants, and looking to buy one of their jackets.

[BrendanZX9R]

Gidday guys , im currently in the market for new gear to take to Aussie with me for the APC Rally (Perth to Byron Bay). Being Aussie and most of the first 2 weeks being in the Desert im concerned about the heat and want a jacket that is going to keep me safe but also cool or warm at the same time. Being in Taranaki we dont have to many choices in regards to gear but a local shop in NP has a Dririder Multitek $399 and a Alpinestars Andes Jacket $399 in my size. Does anyone have or use these jackets and have any reviews on them. Once I get to Byron bay then im gunna ride round the outside so need a jacket for road miles as well. Cheers Neal

sounds like an awesome trip. Out of those 2 choices I'd be inclined to go with the alpinestars. I just got the alpinestars cape town air jacket and the venting and quality is great. We'll see how helpful the venting is at the brass monkey rally this year, but with a windproof layer underneath I'll be fine (fingers crossed!).
Anyway - the quality of the alpinestars stuff really impressed me for the relatively low $$'s involved. But the venting on the dri-rider looks a bit better than the alpinestars andes jacket. Not sure on the venting on the andes jacket, but it looks ok from what I can see from a quick google search. I can understand buying locally, nothing better than being able to try the stuff on when making a choice.

[Night Falcon]

Gidday guys , im currently in the market for new gear to take to Aussie with me for the APC Rally (Perth to Byron Bay). Being Aussie and most of the first 2 weeks being in the Desert im concerned about the heat and want a jacket that is going to keep me safe but also cool or warm at the same time. Being in Taranaki we dont have to many choices in regards to gear but a local shop in NP has a Dririder Multitek $399 and a Alpinestars Andes Jacket $399 in my size. Does anyone have or use these jackets and have any reviews on them. Once I get to Byron bay then im gunna ride round the outside so need a jacket for road miles as well. Cheers Neal

What an epic adventure! :banana:

The Dri-rider multitek jacket has serious venting! you can even remove sections of the outer layer to let the breeze in. I looked at them but it was a little too complex for my needs and too many zippers. I have no doubts it will be warm enough as my last Dri-Rider was excellent for that; just add or remove the thermal liner. If you do decide on one, your review would be a great help for anyone else looking at them given where you'll be taking it.

[nooles]

What an epic adventure! :banana:

The Dri-rider multitek jacket has serious venting! you can even remove sections of the outer layer to let the breeze in. I looked at them but it was a little too complex for my needs and too many zippers. I have no doubts it will be warm enough as my last Dri-Rider was excellent for that; just add or remove the thermal liner. If you do decide on one, your review would be a great help for anyone else looking at them given where you'll be taking it.

Yeah thats what I was concerned about as the zips are only small not those big YKK ones, it is also quite heavy when all the liners etc are in it, but im going for a couple of months maybe 3 so I'll encounter a fair bit of different weather and they said they honor warranty for 24 months.
Hopefully below is a pic of the machines

[400sm]

[QUOTE=Night Falcon;.......maybe the trick is to carry a cut-off knitting needle .......... adv riders "must-have" piece of kit


Just as we suspected all along, eh Johnny ! :laugh:

[Tazz]

I just spent way too much on some other boots because I forgot about these, so thought I'd share.
Really good rep as adventure boots from the advrider community and Atomic moto.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=865947639

Just need to upgrade the jacket now. Heading towards getting some axo armour and a using a ski jacket at the moment. Sick of putting on a wet jacket but too poor for top of the line stuff.

[MarkH]

I just spent way too much on some other boots because I forgot about these, so thought I'd share.
Really good rep as adventure boots from the advrider community and Atomic moto.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=865947639

Just need to upgrade the jacket now. Heading towards getting some axo armour and a using a ski jacket at the moment. Sick of putting on a wet jacket but too poor for top of the line stuff.

Tempting - right size, I need adventure boots & I like my Gaerne touring boots.
BUT: Too much for 2nd hand, I can buy these from fc-moto for $233 shipped for brand new GX-1 EVO boots, $200 second hand is way too close to the new price I can buy them for.
I'm not going to pay a premium price just because the NZ price is high.

[mstriumph]

what am I wearing? ... WTF?!

[Tazz]

Tempting - right size, I need adventure boots & I like my Gaerne touring boots.
BUT: Too much for 2nd hand, I can buy these from fc-moto for $233 shipped for brand new GX-1 EVO boots, $200 second hand is way too close to the new price I can buy them for.
I'm not going to pay a premium price just because the NZ price is high.

Probably be able to talk him down. They're 250 NZD + shipping for me on there so $180-200 looked about right for little wear. Do you have a discount code or something? Spill! :2thumbsup


what am I wearing? ... WTF?!

Yeah, when you're not riding from home to a coffee shop/back in fair weather it's important to have decent gear/know what works from others experience. Pretty easy to get hypothermia on a bike or break an ankle in some shitty boots that had a bullshit review from a retailer.

[Waihou Thumper]

Do you have a discount code or something? Spill! :2thumbsup



Take them to the check out page and it calculates NZD minus the VAT....With shipping $233.12 NZD....

[MarkH]

Probably be able to talk him down. They're 250 NZD + shipping for me on there so $180-200 looked about right for little wear. Do you have a discount code or something? Spill! :2thumbsup

I did the same as WT.
To me it is good if the 2nd hand boots have little wear, but I still wont be OK with paying near new prices. If paying near new prices I might as well just buy new boots.

My current Gaerne boots cost around $90 and I've been wearing them every weekday as well as plenty of weekends for over a year. I've ridden close to 25,000 kms with these boots.
They were in near new condition but sold at under half new price.

[mstriumph]

........................ Pretty easy to get hypothermia on a bike or break an ankle in some shitty boots that had a bullshit review from a retailer.

yeah - I suppose this flimsy little black lace teddy would tend to end up in hypothermia on a bike in cooler weather ... but I fail how to see how my stilleto-heeled thigh boots would end in a broken ankle? :rolleyes:

[Big Dog]

yeah - I suppose this flimsy little black lace teddy would tend to end up in hypothermia on a bike in cooler weather ... but I fail how to see how my stilleto-heeled thigh boots would end in a broken ankle? :rolleyes:

Need pics to give an informed answer.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Tazz]

yeah - I suppose this flimsy little black lace teddy would tend to end up in hypothermia on a bike in cooler weather ... but I fail how to see how my stilleto-heeled thigh boots would end in a broken ankle? :rolleyes:

So long as the colour didn't clash with the rest of your outfit and matched the bike you'd get a thumbs up from the BMW riders at least :love: I find my teddy bunches in all the wrong places when I ride offroad sadly.


I did the same as WT.
To me it is good if the 2nd hand boots have little wear, but I still wont be OK with paying near new prices. If paying near new prices I might as well just buy new boots.

My current Gaerne boots cost around $90 and I've been wearing them every weekday as well as plenty of weekends for over a year. I've ridden close to 25,000 kms with these boots.
They were in near new condition but sold at under half new price.

Cheers for the hint WT.
Yeah I was going off a higher price as mentioned. Just as well I didn't buy them for 200 I guess :laugh: Well rated boots either way.

[JimmyC]

Revzilla have the Badlands Pro on closeout, 25% off. New iteration imminent??

[R650R]

Tempting - right size, I need adventure boots & I like my Gaerne touring boots.


I bought a pair of these off Amazon last year and they have been awesome :)

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/gaerne-g-adventure-boots

[puddytat]

Im wearing Lynx a lot lately.....supposedly it makes it more likely that women will like my muddy smelly arse ....

[MarkH]

I bought a pair of these off Amazon last year and they have been awesome :)

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/gaerne-g-adventure-boots

Interesting . . .

It's amazing how much dearer revzilla is than fc-moto. Revzilla is US$280 and then you add shipping. FC-Moto is ~NZ$250 including shipping to NZ. That's quite a big difference.

[R650R]

Im wearing Lynx a lot lately.....supposedly it makes it more likely that women will like my muddy smelly arse ....

You cheap arse southerner... ;p

Classing it up in the North island with Paco Rabanne....

http://images.zoomnaoferta.com/images/ofertas/225/46045/1366863241-perfume-paco-rabanne-1-million-100ml-ou-lady-million-80mljpginterna.jpg

[R650R]

Interesting . . .

It's amazing how much dearer revzilla is than fc-moto. Revzilla is US$280 and then you add shipping. FC-Moto is ~NZ$250 including shipping to NZ. That's quite a big difference.

Just used that as example of boot version. Got mine much cheaper too through powersports superstore. Prices always changing at these places

[Night Falcon]

Have used the Leatt compression armour a few times on my trials bike. Fit is excellent, makes you feel a bit like iron man. Breathes really well and VERY light weight. As far as compression suits go its easy to get on and off. Works well with the Klim Traverse jacket. Highly recommend both them.

[puddytat]

Have used the Leatt compression armour a few times on my trials bike. Fit is excellent, makes you feel a bit like iron man. Breathes really well and VERY light weight. As far as compression suits go its easy to get on and off. Works well with the Klim Traverse jacket. Highly recommend both them.

I've got some Leatt armour that I use that's O.K. apart from that I feel it doesn't give me any lower back protection.(or not enough for my liking)
I also use a really nice Boehm road race chest & back protector which covers my back & chest nicely, but does nothing for my shoulders & arms.
So I'm thinking a compression suit will be the shizz.
Prices vary amazingly, but no doubt you get what you pay for...
And I'm pain adverse, so I luvs amour.

[Tazz]

I've got some Leatt armour that I use that's O.K. apart from that I feel it doesn't give me any lower back protection.(or not enough for my liking)
I also use a really nice Boehm road race chest & back protector which covers my back & chest nicely, but does nothing for my shoulders & arms.
So I'm thinking a compression suit will be the shizz.
Prices vary amazingly, but no doubt you get what you pay for...
And I'm pain adverse, so I luvs amour.

I have an Axo suit and I find the back bit too long sometimes. Might be good for you :laugh: (It's more because my pants always work their way lower and it pops out.) Haven't had an off more than a light tumble in it yet though so can't give any judgement for protection.

[Oscar]

I have a new Shoei Hornet DS size XL that's never been taken out of the box.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQmDFnj_HSXPWsMs6OSQzK6JCv16Zskx 0mixplgv1fK5msIrsDrUA

I'm gonna put it on TM shortly, but if one of you guys want it - $400

[puddytat]

I have an Axo suit and I find the back bit too long sometimes. Might be good for you :laugh: (It's more because my pants always work their way lower and it pops out.) Haven't had an off more than a light tumble in it yet though so can't give any judgement for protection.

Well I do have to have a long backed backpack for tramping as I obviously have a long back...couple that with short legs & knuckles I drag along the ground, I'm kind of hard to fit...

[thepom]

Nice helmet Oscar....xl !,,,fucking huge head ha ha..

[Oscar]

Nice helmet Oscar....xl !,,,fucking huge head ha ha..

Yeah, one of my mates said the same thing within earshot of the missus.
She said, "...don't tell me, I had his children!"

[JimmyC]

Revzilla have the Badlands Pro on closeout, 25% off. New iteration imminent??

I'll answer my own question... new iterations of Badlands and Latitude :cool:

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/klim-badlands-hi-vis-jacket

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/klim-latitude-jacket

[R650R]

Anyone had textile gear repaired???
Outside warranty now, waterprrof membrane in pants has broken up with wear and tear and outer zip on jacket ferked....
Tough choice looking at replacement options....

[RMOTO]

Anyone had textile gear repaired???
Outside warranty now, waterprrof membrane in pants has broken up with wear and tear and outer zip on jacket ferked....
Tough choice looking at replacement options....

If the membrane damage isn't too wide spread, Aquaseal can be a viable and effective solution. I always carry a tube in my kit as it is magic and fixes anything from shoes, tents, clothing, drybags you name it. All my drybags have little aquaseal dots on the holes from rubbing over time to keep them waterproof.

RemoteMoto Info here: Info on Aquaseal (http://www.remotemoto.com/articles/aquaseal-repair-glue/)

You can buy it from here: Buy Aquaseal (http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=312&aff=rm&tc=bp)

It is the recommended repair product for most Gortex garment repairs like jackets, waders, packs even airhawk seat cushions. It sets in a flexible form so is very user-friendly.

Otherwise, it may be flash shiny new gear time :)

[Night Falcon]

If the membrane damage isn't too wide spread, Aquaseal can be a viable and effective solution. I always carry a tube in my kit as it is magic and fixes anything from shoes, tents, clothing, drybags you name it. All my drybags have little aquaseal dots on the holes from rubbing over time to keep them waterproof.

RemoteMoto Info here: Info on Aquaseal (http://www.remotemoto.com/articles/aquaseal-repair-glue/)

You can buy it from here: Buy Aquaseal (http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=312&aff=rm&tc=bp)

It is the recommended repair product for most Gortex garment repairs like jackets, waders, packs even airhawk seat cushions. It sets in a flexible form so is very user-friendly.

Otherwise, it may be flash shiny new gear time :)

I need to get the hole in my new gortex pants fixed :doh:, might get some of that stuff a go. Raymond, Jet Leathers might be worth a call, they might do repair work or sell ya a bikie jacket?

[Transalper]

...
RemoteMoto Info here: Info on Aquaseal (http://www.remotemoto.com/articles/aquaseal-repair-glue/)

You can buy it from here: Buy Aquaseal (http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_single_product.php?prod=312&aff=rm&tc=bp)...

That stuff is pretty good, it's currently keeping the air in my Airhawk pillow on the WR after the valve stem got a leak around its base.

[george formby]

A wee review on my Givi X.01 Tourer hemlet.

I was given the helmet during the summer, my Dad brought it with him to use while over here on holiday and left it for me. The reason he bought it is because of the removable chin guard. Which is securely fastened I might add. He rides a lot in Spain and prefers open face due to the heat.
It's a modular design so can be used with or without peak and chin guard. Pretty much covers every helmet requirement except moto x.

I've not suffered any buffeting from the peak at open road speeds but the helmet is noisy, I have to use ear plugs on the highway.

The main visor comes pin lock ready. It is semi ratchet, not a positive click click like some road helmets. It also has an internal sun visor.
I had an issue with this. No doubt just one of those things rather than a reflection on the helmets quality. The sun visor is held in place by a small screw and captive nut on each side, located in the main visor mechanism. One of mine came loose and fell into the helmet shell leaving the visor flopping about. I figured our how to remove the liner, cheek pads and side panels in the helmet, a job which needs to be done carefully and retrieved the screw and locating washer which were rattling around. A bit of fiddling and faffing got it back in place.

Check your sun visor mounting!

Visor and peak are held in place with T pin screws. Half a turn to lock or release. Work fine if kept clean and siliconed. I've never bothered taking a helmet to bits before but with a bit of patience to figure it out and a bit of care the Givi was hassle free. Just got to make sure everything goes on and off in the right order. Care needs to be taken with the cheek pad studs. The bottom arm of the panels they click onto are not robust.


The helmet sits quite low on my forehead, not an annoyance but noticeable compared to my other helmets. It becomes more noticeable the longer I ride. I have seen a similar comment on line about this. Defo have a good fitting test if your thinking of getting one. The helmet fits snuggly so I think this could be a Mediterranean forehead design. Mines Nordic. Should fit perfectly if you look permanently startled.

Side visibility is excellent and the visor stays put doing a life saver before overtaking.

It's secured to your scone by a ratchet strap with quick release tab. I like it. No fumbling for clips with your gloves on.

As a multi purpose helmet it's compromised in some ways but excellent in others. As an open face gravel touring helmet it's excellent. Noise lets it down on the highway over long distance. I combine highway and gravel so being able to whip off the chin guard at the end of the tar seal is great.
It feels light to me, 1600g with everything attached.
I have been a fan of internal sun visors for years. Would not have a helmet without one.

I think that's about it, I'm not intending crash testing it for KB.:brick:

[Night Falcon]

Nice write up George. I have an old HMF adventure helmet with a snap release chin strap which I find totally frustrating to adjust. For ease of adjustment there's just no beating the old faithful Double D set up IMO. I went right off internal sun visors after reading how one of the Nelson lads got the end of his nose lopped off when the visor slammed down after an abrupt stop! The helmet never came with a big nose warning, but that's snout relevant for him now I guess. :pinch:

[Waipukbiker]

Saw the ad online for the latest Klim Badlands jacket. Very impressive specs then I saw the price. Is it really worth more than twice the price of some other well specced jackets?. Hard to benchmark jacket value in the true sense of :are you really getting what you pay for?. Must check out some online reviews such as Webbikeworld.

[george formby]

Nice write up George. I have an old HMF adventure helmet with a snap release chin strap which I find totally frustrating to adjust. For ease of adjustment there's just no beating the old faithful Double D set up IMO. I went right off internal sun visors after reading how one of the Nelson lads got the end of his nose lopped off when the visor slammed down after an abrupt stop! The helmet never came with a big nose warning, but that's snout relevant for him now I guess. :pinch:

LOL. I keep thinking about that nose chopping incident. I can see how it could happen. Not sure if the sun visor was loose or the helmet itself. I will continue to take my chances, I like the convenience and being able to whip the visor up approaching shaded areas.
Good point on strap adjustment, too. All my quick release helmets require 10 minutes of off and on to get right. The strap on the Givi is quite long and if not secured beats a wee tattoo out on the side of the helmet. I may just have a small chin...<_<

Recently bought an FFM commander for trials practice and it has D rings. First time I've used them in eons and, yeah, bang on every time. It's strangely comforting putting a helmet on and pulling the strap tight. It sets the mood. Hard to beat old school.

[XF650]

Did someone mention the nose chop incident?

[timg]

Did someone mention the nose chop incident? Poor bugger. He'll never live that down :)

[Trials Rider]

Poor bugger. He'll never live that down :)

Or this one :shit:

[george formby]

Or this one :shit:


Pfffffft. That's amateur. I had a certain DT up to the top of the tank.....:facepalm: Pulled it out with an oyster barge.

Might stick a bit of rubber on me sun visor in case of a bogey.

[Trials Rider]

Pfffffft. That's amateur. I had a certain DT up to the top of the tank.....:facepalm: Pulled it out with an oyster barge.

Might stick a bit of rubber on me sun visor in case of a bogey.

Ha I bet it didn't go any better underwater than Woodmans KLR

[george formby]

Saw the ad online for the latest Klim Badlands jacket. Very impressive specs then I saw the price. Is it really worth more than twice the price of some other well specced jackets?. Hard to benchmark jacket value in the true sense of :are you really getting what you pay for?. Must check out some online reviews such as Webbikeworld.

Barry of Enduro Cross Training fame, on Youtube, is sporting some very Star Trek Klim off road gear. Last vid I saw he had 60+ hard rides and the gear was faultless. Apart from the exhaust melt on his strides. He's impressed and I get the impression he lives on a bike.
Just sayin.

[george formby]

Ha I bet it didn't go any better underwater than Woodmans KLR

Bet it was easier to pull out, though. Does a great Sperm whale impersonation when you take the plug out.

[Trials Rider]

Bet it was easier to pull out, though. Does a great Sperm whale impersonation when you take the plug out.

I bet it was to, the KLR is a heavy bike

[george formby]

I bet it was to, the KLR is a heavy bike

Yeah, make their own gravity apparently. I'm not familiar with the poor chap who is being pilloried but he obviously rides just like me. I would probably like him if we met.

[timg]

Or this one :shit: Well, yeah. But KLR riders.....:facepalm:

[Night Falcon]

Did someone mention the nose chop incident?

Every time I see that picture of poor old Nige's nose nip, it makes my eyes water :doctor:

[Woodman]

Did someone mention the nose chop incident?

The scars are healing slowly.


Or this one :shit:

that was a fun couple of hours in the hot sun aye:no:


Yeah, make their own gravity apparently. I'm not familiar with the poor chap who is being pilloried but he obviously rides just like me. I would probably like him if we met.

He rides a leeetle bit more sensibly these days.


Well, yeah. But KLR riders.....:facepalm:

Agreed, they are special.:clap:


Every time I see that picture of poor old Nige's nose nip, it makes my eyes water :doctor:

You should have been sitting where I was!

Mind you every other internal visor helmet I have checked out since, the visor springs back with very little pressure, whereas mine locked in place.

[R650R]

Saw the ad online for the latest Klim Badlands jacket. Very impressive specs then I saw the price. Is it really worth more than twice the price of some other well specced jackets?. Hard to benchmark jacket value in the true sense of :are you really getting what you pay for?. Must check out some online reviews such as Webbikeworld.

I think Klim and Dainese command the price as they have goretex who guarantee the waterproof part for lifetime warranty.
For the good run I've had out of my gear its do I replace with like and the keep original for dry weather thereby making new stuff last longer or buy expensive stuff and hope it doesn't wear out the same....

[Waipukbiker]

Yeah, If I was after a new jacket and the money was available I wouldnt hesitate with the Klim but my current jacket is still completely waterproof after 4 years and doing what it was designed to do so all good for now.

[XF650]

Pfffffft. That's amateur. I had a certain DT up to the top of the tank.....:facepalm

I know the feeling....

[R650R]

After considering all options I pulled the pin on new RST Adventure II setup. Got a great deal from Erikkson Honda who've looked after me in the past with regards to gear.
Price is actually cheaper than to buy overseas so a great deal. Wanted black and silver (Klim look) but we only get black option in NZ.
Previously had the RST Paragon II jacket, they now at Paragon 4 and been lots of little changes. The RST has vents for Africa and they are big ones which addresses my previous only real problem with them.
Bought in same size and jacket feels like a much nicer better cut fit and style wize and the ADV specific pants feel better in seated position and vented well too.
Best of all the waterproof membrane can be zipped out making repair easy, have it last longer by not in when you don't need it and technically replaceable on its own.
Pushed for info on wether the membrane could be bought on its own as spare part in future, sounded possible but unconfirmed. Hopefully they willas be good marketing, point of difference on service for them.
Now all I need is some shitty weather for decent test lol :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh-unM9qK_4

[Box'a'bits]

I've got the RST Adventure (not II). Looking at the video, the II is mostly a slight cosmetic update with a throat coat added. I found that the inner waterproof liner isn't entirely up to spec, & leaks a bit. Also, the jacket once wet acts as a heat exchanger. So in really heavy weather I run an external waterproof system.

I'm really happy with the jacket in most other conditions, especially the ability to vent via the mesh panels.

[JimmyC]

As an aside, do any of you factor in colour and its subsequent potential heat issues in the sun when choosing gear? My last jacket (Revit Cayenne) was all black and was pretty warm, when stopped in traffic it was definitely noticeable. It didn't vent terribly well however. My current jacket (Revit GTX Defender) is very light in colour, even more than the RST above. It definitely felt cooler but then the venting was better also.

I'm seriously contemplating getting the Klim Badlands set in the next few months whilst I'm in a position to, but I'm not a big fan of the grey\black combo purely from a cosmetic point of view. Wondering if there'd be much, if any, difference between that and the black set when it comes to heat in direct sunlight? My ponderings stem from having recently moved to Tauranga from Wellington, it gets a lot hotter up here with much less wind, but when it rains, it's usually like a biblical event.

[Big Dog]

As an aside, do any of you factor in colour and its subsequent potential heat issues in the sun when choosing gear? My last jacket (Revit Cayenne) was all black and was pretty warm, when stopped in traffic it was definitely noticeable. It didn't vent terribly well however. My current jacket (Revit GTX Defender) is very light in colour, even more than the RST above. It definitely felt cooler but then the venting was better also.

I'm seriously contemplating getting the Klim Badlands set in the next few months whilst I'm in a position to, but I'm not a big fan of the grey\black combo purely from a cosmetic point of view. Wondering if there'd be much, if any, difference between that and the black set when it comes to heat in direct sunlight? My ponderings stem from having recently moved to Tauranga from Wellington, it gets a lot hotter up here with much less wind, but when it rains, it's usually like a biblical event.
Most coloured gear stops at 3xl.
I wear whatever I can buy in a 5-7xl.

Sent via tapatalk.

[R650R]

I've got the RST Adventure (not II). Looking at the video, the II is mostly a slight cosmetic update with a throat coat added. I found that the inner waterproof liner isn't entirely up to spec, & leaks a bit. Also, the jacket once wet acts as a heat exchanger. So in really heavy weather I run an external waterproof system.

I'm really happy with the jacket in most other conditions, especially the ability to vent via the mesh panels.

The absence of the throat coat would have been your problem. When I got lazy/caught out from time to time without it on the Paragon II a surprising amount of water finds its way in via your neck.
Never had problem like you say with paragon which is made out of same material, perhaps your outer shell needed a repellent freshen up, a small degree of maintainance is needed for these type of things.
Really impressed with RST warranty service in past so not worried about any issues.

As for someone elses comment about black colour, don't think it matters much when you have such a solid barrier. I find leathers actually cooler in hot sun if keeping on the move, I reckon the problem with getting hot is all down to lack of venting.

Just noticed they supplied a separate polypropel type black neck balaclava too, nice touch.

[R650R]

Adventure spec helmets... aside from the ability to wear googles (which is not going to be often for me) are there any other advantages apart from big beak sunvisor?
Most of my ADV miles are predomoinantly on road getting to somewhere interesting, should is tick with road style helmet???
Will only be interested in top of the line Arai or Shoei so not interested in quirks of any of the cheap stuff....

[Gremlin]

As an aside, do any of you factor in colour and its subsequent potential heat issues in the sun when choosing gear?
I think about it, but often the colours don't work out. My previous jacket was a Revit Off Track, in khaki and black, was fine with it. Defender is all black. Ultimately I don't think it really gets that hot in most of NZ to be too much of a factor, unless it's a lot of slow going stuff. Manufacturers seem to enjoy putting out bright reds or blues in their colour pattern, which a, I don't like and b, will shortly look like shit. I'm not keen on the light colours as they show dirt very quickly (my idea of washing my gear is riding in rain) but that said, mud doesn't match black too good either :laugh:

[clint640]

Adventure spec helmets... aside from the ability to wear googles (which is not going to be often for me) are there any other advantages apart from big beak sunvisor?
Most of my ADV miles are predomoinantly on road getting to somewhere interesting, should is tick with road style helmet???
Will only be interested in top of the line Arai or Shoei so not interested in quirks of any of the cheap stuff....

Just the sunshade aspect of a peak is pretty damn useful, especially if you have a dusty/dirty visor. Another thing I've found handy is that when riding scrubby tracks offroad, with the visor up cos it's slow & sweaty, the peak protects your face & visor from roost, branch & blackberry attack - just dip your head to fend it off. I've had road helmet visors ripped off before when riding scrubby tracks.

Cheers
Clint

[Trials Rider]

I think about it, but often the colours don't work out. My previous jacket was a Revit Off Track, in khaki and black, was fine with it. Defender is all black. Ultimately I don't think it really gets that hot in most of NZ to be too much of a factor, unless it's a lot of slow going stuff. Manufacturers seem to enjoy putting out bright reds or blues in their colour pattern, which a, I don't like and b, will shortly look like shit. I'm not keen on the light colours as they show dirt very quickly (my idea of washing my gear is riding in rain) but that said, mud doesn't match black too good either :laugh:

My old ADV was black and for me it was like wearing a solar panel, I sweat a lot and don't like wearing layers, I wear the Klim Bladlands in Grey and I noticed a huge difference in lower heat absorption and with ten good vents on the jacket alone I can get plenty of venting on demand, the D3O back plate has channels across it to vent nicely too.

Winter is fine because it is complete wind stopper and that works extremely well too.

[Night Falcon]

My old ADV was black and for me it was like wearing a solar panel, I sweat a lot and don't like wearing layers, I wear the Klim Bladlands in Grey and I noticed a huge difference in lower heat absorption and with ten good vents on the jacket alone I can get plenty of venting on demand, the D3O back plate has channels across it to vent nicely too.

Winter is fine because it is complete wind stopper and that works extremely well too.

Black gear gets pretty uncomfortable in HB in summer if you don't have lots of good vents.

On the helmet peak discussion - I had to raise my peak on the Arai XD4 to max position as it blocked out my field of view too much when standing. Still keeps the sun out better than my old Shoei Hornet-don't know why they even put a peak on those they don't do anything....look ok though

[JayDNZ]

So I'm quite new to this and totally underestimated the amount of gear required, building my kit up slowly, but what's the main advantage of an adventure jacket over a road jacket? I assume better moment and ability to better controll temperature? Ie more vents? Probably different padding/protection too?

[flashg]

So I'm quite new to this and totally underestimated the amount of gear required, building my kit up slowly, but what's the main advantage of an adventure jacket over a road jacket? I assume better moment and ability to better controll temperature? Ie more vents? Probably different padding/protection too?


You're a fast learner, you can heat up fast, when exploring, good venting is very important, water proof, warm with removable lining, they usually have a big pocket in the lower back that the liner will fit in, don't rush it, have a good look at some, pick what suits you. Best of luck

[Night Falcon]

Have been using the Klim Traverse jacket and Leatt 3D Airfit pressure suit for a bit now so here's my thoughts.

The armour is very light weight and comfortable to wear. I usually have Tee shirt under it and it doesn't get hot at all. The elbow pads can get uncomfortable when you put first put the suit on but seem to soften up once you get moving.

Klim Traverse jacket is the best jacket I've owned. Super tuff, waterproof and heaps of ventilation; handy for riding over the HB summer. Plenty of pockets and the zips are easy to use. Being amerkin the main zip is on the girls side which had me wondering why I couldn't disconnect it on a few occasions but am used to it now. I bought the next size up in fit so I can shove extra layers under it for winter - worked well and its not noticeably baggy when I only have the pressure suit under it.

Wasn't sure if this setup would work for me, after using a full adventure jacket, but it is great and knowing the armour cant move around much in a crash is reassuring- especially if you crash as often as I do. Having said all that I do have an old adventure jacket that I used on some real cold days for short rides cos it was just easier. Great gear and worth the doe.

[Gremlin]

Not too familiar with road jackets, but aren't some pre-formed for shape while on the bike? Adv jackets are more neutral, usually 3/4 type length (so past your waist). Often quite technical 3-4 season and multi-layer (2 at a minimum, many are 3 layer now). Mix and match the layers to suit.

Add in 1 million zips (and almost as many pockets) you'll find some new ones after owning it for a few years. As said, usually a pouch on the lower rear for liners or rain jacket etc.

Idea being that for a 4 season jacket, you can have it fully venting for heat (and I've been in 50+ degrees) but also warm and dry in the depth of winter. This winter part I'm not so sure of, and just chuck a rain jacket over the top...

[Waipukbiker]

Can only comment on what I have. Technic Freeway, Big pocket on the lower back , Five big vents so plenty of air flowing through on a hot day. small pocket in the left sleeve for keys. Main front pockets are waterproof. Ive had it now for about 4 years and it is still totally waterproof. Been over the Desert rd in driving rain and sleet in mid Winter and was warm and dry.

[JayDNZ]

good venting is very important, water proof, warm with removable lining, they usually have a big pocket in the lower back that the liner will fit in, don't rush it, have a good look at some, pick what suits you. Best of luck

Thanks!... I bought a Dririder Apex 3 when I bought my bike, mostly because it was reasonably priced and I didn't have a clue :rolleyes:

It's got a removable thermal and bunny pocket on back, It's fine for the road and warm in winter, but gets really hot fast on bumpy stuff, and not many vents.... to cool off I gotta zip halfway down and angle my body just right to get some decent airflow :facepalm:

On the plus side it didn't break the bank so no big loss and handy to throw on for commuting.


Have been using the Klim Traverse jacket and Leatt 3D Airfit pressure suit

Klim seem to be one of the most respected brands in this space, nice kit. By having the armor are you less concerned about armor in the jacket? do you still keep the armor in the jacket or no?


Not too familiar with road jackets, but aren't some pre-formed for shape while on the bike?

Yeah, my jacket prefers it if I'm hunched down like road-rash


Add in 1 million zips (and almost as many pockets) you'll find some new ones after owning it for a few years.

:laugh::laugh:


Can only comment on what I have. Technic Freeway

I just watched a review on Revzilla, looks good... but was 2012, maybe they don't do that jacket now? or renamed it maybe.


Next question - Whats the main difference between an adventure jacket and enduro jacket??.... Adventure more geared up for the bad weather / rain maybe?

[Night Falcon]

Klim seem to be one of the most respected brands in this space, nice kit. By having the armor are you less concerned about armor in the jacket? do you still keep the armor in the jacket or no?



No, I don't have any armour in the jacket although you can fit some.

I found out (the hard way) that the armour in adventure jackets can move about in a crash. So I went looking for a pressure suit that holds the armour in place better. The Leatt 3D airfit also has chest, waist and a better back protector than nearly all the adventure style jackets I looked at with the exception of other more expensive Klim gear like the Badlands range.

It is more time getting dressed for a ride but for me that's a small price to pay for better protection on longer rides. I still use an old adv jacket if I need to nip out for short errands but am now sold on the pressure suit and enduro jacket setup. When I started this thread I wanted to see what other guys using a pressure suit for adv riding thought about it......turned out there weren't many so its not everyone's cup of tea.

[flashg]

Next question - Whats the main difference between an adventure jacket and enduro jacket??.... Adventure more geared up for the bad weather / rain maybe?


I might be wrong but I bought an enduro jacket off torpedo 7, it has no armour or lining and has removable sleeves and i think it might be shower proof if I'm lucky, but I bought it for trail riding in winter (snow etc ) perfect over my leatt suit.
My adventure jacket is a dririder with armour and removable linings and even removable sleeves, extremely well vented, extra armour on outside on shoulders and elbows. There are mixed opinions on everything out there, but remember what its for and your budget, you'll find what suits you,heaps to choose from. Good luck
PS make sure you're wearing winter clothes when trying on for size, so it fits in winter OR if you've had to many pies.

[Tazz]

Next question - Whats the main difference between an adventure jacket and enduro jacket??.... Adventure more geared up for the bad weather / rain maybe?

Adventure is more layered and usually much warmer, which also means heavy and cumbersome by comparison.
Enduro is ideally light and mega breathable which means at speed the wind will cut right through. I think a lot of enduro dudes just wear MX gears. Being wet doesn't matter too much when you're slogging and have a change of clothes back at the car.

[clint640]

Thanks!... I bought a Dririder Apex 3 when I bought my bike, mostly because it was reasonably priced and I didn't have a clue :rolleyes:

It's got a removable thermal and bunny pocket on back, It's fine for the road and warm in winter, but gets really hot fast on bumpy stuff, and not many vents.... to cool off I gotta zip halfway down and angle my body just right to get some decent airflow :facepalm:

On the plus side it didn't break the bank so no big loss and handy to throw on for commuting.



My strategy of a warmish jacket (RST Paragon 2) with the armour stripped out, worn over a pressure suit (Axo air cage) has now been thoroughly tested - it worked pretty well through 8500km, 5 weeks, 3800m of elevation change & 20 degrees of latitude in Patagonia earlier this year.

So you could just get a pressure suit & do this with your old jacket. Just take the jacket off when the going gets hot & you are still protected.

You can get some seriously techo $$$$ adv gear that tries to do everything in every season but I'm unconvinced it's the best answer. Even if a jacket can go from uber weatherproof winter mode to mega venting MX mode successfully you are left with the problem of either not being able to fit enough warm gear under it in winter, or as NF notes above, the armour flopping around in summer.

Cheers
Clint

[JayDNZ]

My strategy of a warmish jacket (RST Paragon 2) with the armour stripped out, worn over a pressure suit (Axo air cage) has now been thoroughly tested - it worked pretty well through 8500km, 5 weeks, 3800m of elevation change & 20 degrees of latitude in Patagonia earlier this year.

So you could just get a pressure suit & do this with your old jacket. Just take the jacket off when the going gets hot & you


Sounds like a dream trip!!

I like the idea of whipping the jacket off, will check out the Armour options, superior protection too most likely.

Cheers all for the tips!!

[JayDNZ]

it worked pretty well through 8500km, 5 weeks, 3800m of elevation change & 20 degrees of latitude in Patagonia earlier this year.

Any photos/stories from the trip on the forum?

[JayDNZ]

Axo Air Cage arrived today from Torpedo7... Impressed with the build quality, cant go wrong for $175. I'm 6'4" and around 105KG's, all the reviews said to order big so I went for XXXL, thinking I might order a XXL for comparison and return one, definitely happy with this one if the other is too small.

Would have been nice to have it yesterday for Lee's Valley as I was a bit of a sweat box in full jacket and pants in 20+ degrees... Oh well.

Don't feel the urge to go looking for a new jacket now, granted I haven't road tested it yet, but feeling quite happy with this set-up.

Cheers all for the advice.

[Scubbo]

air cage is great, though some of the hold in place straps are just glued and come loose, the shoulder straps that hold shoulder armour in place have pulled away on mine as was just a little glob of glue -- no biggy but yeah?

[JayDNZ]

air cage is great, though some of the hold in place straps are just glued and come loose, the shoulder straps that hold shoulder armour in place have pulled away on mine as was just a little glob of glue -- no biggy but yeah?

Good intel.. Thanks!

[puddytat]

I got my self a Leatt Pro jacket off trademe for 150 bucks.....down from 299 at the mo, but were listed @ 499.....:crazy:
Happy with it overall, its waterproof & breathable with heaps of venting front, rear & on the arms, which can also zip off.....
has a pocket for a water bladder & a rear pocket for the waterproof liner. Oh, its also neck brace friendly....
I got the large size which is actually too big for me but within tolerances & which allows me to put umpteen layers on underneath.
One of which will be most likely the Leatt 3df Airfit, which is what I've decided to get as a lot of armour seems to have pronounced edges on plasticky bits & Im a tad worried that edges may damage inner linnings on jackets......:blink:

There's a medium on sale here...http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/jackets/auction-1006471877.htm

[MarkH]

I really need some better gear, my current gear is way too hot for summer. I need something with decent venting at least.
What do you guys think about Klim Badlands Pro pants, they are now discontinued so I can get a pair for around $500 which is pretty cheap compared to the newest incarnation of Badlands pants - worth picking up the older version?

[MarkH]

What do you guys think about Klim Badlands Pro pants

Decided to order a pair, NZ$465 is too good to ignore.
I'd buy the 2015 Badlands pants but $1199 is too big a chunk out of my finances and I need a jacket & some boots too.
Ordered a Klim Overland jacket, hopefully it is decent for the money.

I'm thinking about trying on some Sidi Adventure boots, any opinion on these?

[Tazz]

I got my self a Leatt Pro jacket off trademe for 150 bucks.....down from 299 at the mo, but were listed @ 499.....:crazy:
Happy with it overall, its waterproof & breathable with heaps of venting front, rear & on the arms, which can also zip off.....
has a pocket for a water bladder & a rear pocket for the waterproof liner. Oh, its also neck brace friendly....
I got the large size which is actually too big for me but within tolerances & which allows me to put umpteen layers on underneath.
One of which will be most likely the Leatt 3df Airfit, which is what I've decided to get as a lot of armour seems to have pronounced edges on plasticky bits & Im a tad worried that edges may damage inner linnings on jackets......:blink:

There's a medium on sale here...http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/helmets-clothing-footwear/jackets/auction-1006471877.htm

How'd the waterproof test go?


Decided to order a pair, NZ$465 is too good to ignore.
I'd buy the 2015 Badlands pants but $1199 is too big a chunk out of my finances and I need a jacket & some boots too.
Ordered a Klim Overland jacket, hopefully it is decent for the money.

I'm thinking about trying on some Sidi Adventure boots, any opinion on these?

Score. Where'd you pick them up from?

[eldog]

I'm thinking about trying on some Sidi Adventure boots, any opinion on these?

Take a pair of the socks you are going to wear when you try them on.
Takes a while for them to free up

I really like them, the buckles are micro adjustable and it pays off to adjust them just one notch to get the feeling right. Easy to slip on and off and the materials are good quality.

The leg is slightly bent forward but not too much like a racing boot.

I used Snow-Seal to seal and protect mine.

The ankle 'bends' and allows a reasonable bending to walk. Could walk a fair way in them (probably a few ks) and still be comfortable. Occasionally they become too hot when I am just sitting in the sun. I use Summer and Winter socks (Revit from Motomail)with air channels and that helps. Took me a while to get the hang of them but after a few months of riding I wouldn't be without them.

I do find on really chilly nights the top of the feet become cold but that is just me I guess.
The soles are quite a good grip, just be careful on wet tiles they can slip like any boot.

I like the easy way of putting them on, then sliding my trouser leg down over the top. Keeps the rain from filling them up.

I think the insole is a bit thin and may look at a gel insole-but I haven't got round to it:wait:

I haven't used them in an adventure application (yet) that's on the bucket list.

Revzilla has a video review on it.

[MarkH]

Score. Where'd you pick them up from?

The usual place - fc-moto.de
https://www.fc-moto.de/Klim-Badlands-Pro-Pant

Unfortunately the jacket is out of stock on L or XL sizes (for all 3 colour options) so I couldn't grab a cheap one of those.

[clint640]

I'm thinking about trying on some Sidi Adventure boots, any opinion on these?

I like mine. Done 10K+ km in em now. The sting of the price has mostly faded :pinch: The most protection you'll get in a waterproof boot & as eldog says, not bad for walking around in. The goretex is still doing the business - much better than previous experiences with other types of 'waterproof' membrane boots.

Also try on the Alpinestars Toucan, these also have goretex & are fairly solid, at a similar price, but I found the Sidi's to be a better fit on my feet plus the ankle protection seemed slightly better.

Cheers
Clint

[Tazz]

My creditcard is pretty stoked there's none in my size :laugh: Probably still 200 more than I'd ever want to spent on something I like to roll around on the side of a hill in, but they certainly are a good bit of kit.

Those Forma Adv boots seem to have a good buzz about them too.

[Gremlin]

Those Forma Adv boots seem to have a good buzz about them too.
Been using a set for the last 5 odd years. I certainly like them, and they were initially waterproof, but now no longer. Only an issue when wading through streams... They're not as hard core adventure as the Sidi Adventure etc, but I can wear them all day, walk in them etc.

[flashg]

I'm thinking about trying on some Sidi Adventure boots, any opinion on these?


Hi MarkH, I was just having a good look some of those today, Very well made. I have some Forma adventure boots which only came in tan colour, but now available in black, these are fantastic to walk in and are water proof. From what I've noticed from the amount of people wearing them they appear very popular. I think you should try some on, you might like them or not. They were cheaper than Sidi's at the time. Best of luck 🍀

[Night Falcon]

My next pair of boots will be Sidi Crossfires cost their water protection is excellent, that's if I ever wear my tech10's out.I was wearing Forma adventure boots when I managed to break both my ankle and several metatarsals in my foot so have been ut off soft bike boots - to be fair though I don't if even a tech 10 would have done much better with 210kgs of 990 landing on em :facepalm:

[puddytat]

Those Forma Adv boots seem to have a good buzz about them too.

I like my pair...:yes: heaps of people wearing them. Although if I was riding a 220kg plus bike id probably use metal boots like them deep sea dudes.

As for the Leatt jacket waterproofnesstestnumber 1....bit of a fail. Yes it was raining, but not really heavily...
Did I stay dry? Kind of...my torso did. Arms didn't.
What did I like about the jacket?... All the venting, the watercooling was a bonus.
Would I recommend? yeah.....naaaaa. Not as a rain stopper.
I do like the venting options & the elbow & shoulder armour is similar to the 3df stuff, as in nice & flexible.

I'd be a tad fucked off if I'd payed RRP. But for 150.00 well.....

[Woodman]

I have gaerne short waterproof boots. Very good, but waterproof is a bad idea IMHO because if you walk or ride through deep water the water gets in through the top and cannot get out unless you stop and drain your boot.

[eldog]

I have gaerne short waterproof boots. Very good, but waterproof is a bad idea IMHO because if you walk or ride through deep water the water gets in through the top and cannot get out unless you stop and drain your boot.

Yes that is one issue I have yet to encounter. The Sidi ADV ones stop just under my knee, haven't been in water that deep as yet. The doctors thought I should have broken my Achilles with all the bruising and damage too my foot(not that the bike landed on it). I put that down to the boot - it still looks like new.

[Tazz]

Cheers for the run down bud. My current jacket does the same so no point snapping that medium up eh. Full on yellow heavy as fark wet weathers are still a distant plan x or y at this stage but ebbing closer haha

The collar setup all good?

I'd like waterproof boots but with warm socks I have to say I haven't found sieve like boots to really be any hassle. Socks dry quick enough anyway. One day though. Maybe waterproof gloves and heated grips too. Dreams are free!

[puddytat]

The collar setup all good?

I'd like waterproof boots but with warm socks I have to say I haven't found sieve like boots to really be any hassle. Socks dry quick enough anyway. One day though. Maybe waterproof gloves and heated grips too. Dreams are free!

Yeah the collar setup seems ok, though not having a brace means I cant really give an informed opinion, but I can see it'll work.
Funny thing today happened as I was in Murch searching for a pie. I came across a couple of fellas on bikes
(a LC ktm & CRF450) who were hummin & ha- ing over their rain affected plans for the Maruia saddle, Mackley rides. One of them was wearing the leatt adventure jacket with a waterproof shell over it....also not waterproof.
Both of them were wearing neck braces.They mentioned that the Maruia saddle was impassable with the rain...a creek blew out somewhere.

As Woodman said, waterproof boots hold water really well too. My waterproof boots are good in rain, but hopeless in knee deep water:rolleyes:

[Tazz]

Yeah the collar setup seems ok, though not having a brace means I cant really give an informed opinion, but I can see it'll work.
Funny thing today happened as I was in Murch searching for a pie. I came across a couple of fellas on bikes
(a LC ktm & CRF450) who were hummin & ha- ing over their rain affected plans for the Maruia saddle, Mackley rides. One of them was wearing the leatt adventure jacket with a waterproof shell over it....also not waterproof.
Both of them were wearing neck braces.They mentioned that the Maruia saddle was impassable with the rain...a creek blew out somewhere.

As Woodman said, waterproof boots hold water really well too. My waterproof boots are good in rain, but hopeless in knee deep water:rolleyes:

We live in a day and age with such technological marvels as the waterproof teabag, yet they can't advertise correctly or apply the same properties to a wee jacket eh. Very disappoint.


:laugh:

[eldog]

If it's too waterproof and doesn't breathe like a waterproof tea bag, I find that humidity from me makes it feel like it's raining on the inside.:crazy::brick::nya:

a dri as a bone seems to help

[puddytat]

That's true...I have been using techni-flex jacket & over trou which are advertised as breathable & waterproof (farmer Ken stuff)....waterproof they are but breathable they aint. That may have something to do though to the amount of sweat an adventure rider may generate as they manhandle their machine in their quest for adventure & the meaning of life...

Does oilskin stand up to the wind pressure associated with rain riding?

[MarkH]

Holy Shit!
My jacket and pants from Germany just arrived, WTF?
I was expecting a call asking for some GST and a little forcible butt secks from customs, but no, package just turned up.
It cost me NZ$1100 so I was sure I couldn't avoid customs holding the package until they squeezed me for some of my hard earned.

Now that I'm over two hundred bucks richer than I thought I'd be I might have to go over to Hamilton to look at some new boots.

[JayDNZ]

Holy Shit!
My jacket and pants from Germany just arrived, WTF?
I was expecting a call asking for some GST and a little forcible butt secks from customs, but no, package just turned up.
It cost me NZ$1100 so I was sure I couldn't avoid customs holding the package until they squeezed me for some of my hard earned.

Now that I'm over two hundred bucks richer than I thought I'd be I might have to go over to Hamilton to look at some new boots.

Spend some of that $200 on lotto ticket if I was you!! ;)

[Waihou Thumper]

Holy Shit!
My jacket and pants from Germany just arrived, WTF?
I was expecting a call asking for some GST and a little forcible butt secks from customs, but no, package just turned up.
It cost me NZ$1100 so I was sure I couldn't avoid customs holding the package until they squeezed me for some of my hard earned.

Now that I'm over two hundred bucks richer than I thought I'd be I might have to go over to Hamilton to look at some new boots.

They got your number boyo!
Was that a door knocking? ;)
Lucky you is all I can say.....better be worth that $1100 smackers!
So I won't be the best dressed DR650 rider in Matamata Piako district anymore!

[MarkH]

[I]better be worth that $1100 smackers!


That's pretty cheap:
The 2015 Badlands Jacket - $1695
The 2015 Badlands Pants - $1200
When I look at those prices I think my Klim jacket & pants for $1100 seems pretty cheap.
If I only had $2895 kicking about spare I could get the really nice stuff, but that is a big chunk of change to spend.

My Badlands Pro pants & Overland jacket seem pretty nice considering they cost only 38% as much money.

[eldog]

Holy Shit!
My jacket and pants from Germany just arrived, WTF?
I was expecting a call asking for some GST and a little forcible butt secks from customs, but no, package just turned up.
It cost me NZ$1100 so I was sure I couldn't avoid customs holding the package until they squeezed me for some of my hard earned.

Now that I'm over two hundred bucks richer than I thought I'd be I might have to go over to Hamilton to look at some new boots.

So, what do you think of them, once you've had a chance to give them a go of course.

[MarkH]

So, what do you think of them, once you've had a chance to give them a go of course.

I checked how they fit, I think I managed to work out the size exactly right.
I'll try wearing them to work & back tomorrow, the vents will be nice for the ride home.
I ride to work at 3am where the cheap non-vented gear has been fine, but then I ride home around midday where vented gear would be real nice.

I'll report back after work tomorrow with my initial impression.

[Night Falcon]

Went for a 2hr ride on the 530 round midday, temps were above 30:sweatdrop ....loving the venting on the Traverse jacket and XD4 helmet!

[MarkH]

Riding home today at 12:30pm it was pretty warm, the vents definitely helped although the ST1300 does have a lot of bodywork that blocks the air.
The Badlands Pro pants are a little baggy (something that I've read about and the newer model has been improved in this respect) but are not ridiculously so.
The Overland jacket is really nice and the vents cooled my pits.
Definitely a step up from my other textile gear.

The Klim gear is supposed to be completely waterproof, will have to wait for some wet weather to test that.

[MarkH]

Tested the gear more thoroughly on the weekend, the Badlands pants and Overland jacket worked pretty good, much better than the cheaper gear I had been using. It was still hot work but the vents did help. I had a few offs with no problems except for an achy wrist (can't blame the gear for that one).
I bought some Gaerne Adventure boots and I was pretty happy with them, until putting my feet down in water higher than the tops of the boots - oh well, without wearing waders I guess there's nothing I can do about that. I had also bought some better gloves for off-road riding, they allow some air through and really helped a lot in the hot weather while riding Fishers Track & 42nd Traverse - I'm not too sure one what gloves they are except they are made by Rev-It.

[Night Falcon]

Tested the gear more thoroughly on the weekend, the Badlands pants and Overland jacket worked pretty good, much better than the cheaper gear I had been using. It was still hot work but the vents did help. I had a few offs with no problems except for an achy wrist (can't blame the gear for that one).
I bought some Gaerne Adventure boots and I was pretty happy with them, until putting my feet down in water higher than the tops of the boots - oh well, without wearing waders I guess there's nothing I can do about that. I had also bought some better gloves for off-road riding, they allow some air through and really helped a lot in the hot weather while riding Fishers Track & 42nd Traverse - I'm not too sure one what gloves they are except they are made by Rev-It.

photos of the weekend Mark? :corn:

hope that wrist is OK mate!

[MarkH]

photos of the weekend Mark? :corn:

hope that wrist is OK mate!

Wrist will come right, left hand is fine so my sex life wont take a dive.

Not all that many photos, got some of my camp setup and packed on the bike:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qULAGTQwgdk/VsoykWWZVhI/AAAAAAAAFHg/jpEq0ylNd9w/s1032-Ic42/Taumaranui_camp_1b.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DtvPKs8b-cU/Vsoypy3a7dI/AAAAAAAAFHg/YutKgTdSB_U/s1032-Ic42/Taumaranui_camp_1h.jpg

Apart from borking the wrist it was heaps of fun!

[Night Falcon]

Wrist will come right, left hand is fine so my sex life wont take a dive.

Not all that many photos, got some of my camp setup and packed on the bike:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qULAGTQwgdk/VsoykWWZVhI/AAAAAAAAFHg/jpEq0ylNd9w/s1032-Ic42/Taumaranui_camp_1b.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DtvPKs8b-cU/Vsoypy3a7dI/AAAAAAAAFHg/YutKgTdSB_U/s1032-Ic42/Taumaranui_camp_1h.jpg

Apart from borking the wrist it was heaps of fun!

my plan is to do it next year on the 530.....lack of further injury/crashing/surgery/ISIS invasion permitting :facepalm:

[JayDNZ]

Morning all - I picked up a pair of Alpinestars Durban Gore-Tex pants at Avon City Suzuki yesterday, $799 RRP, down to $300 for end of line, it's not what I was actually shopping for (jeans) but I did need some ventilated and breathable pants so seemed like a no brainier.

Keen to know if anyone else owns these and what they think?

[pete-blen]

now thats one packed up DR...:shit:

[thepom]

Hi jayDNZ.....I ve the jacket and trousers and very happy with them....the gore tex lining alone is worth its weight in gold.....especially if you can get the jacket too......I ve been off the bike and the material has held together pretty well....it seems to look pretty dirty and dusty after a while compared to my mates expensive klim gear but hey who can afford 18oo bucks for a jacket.....only trouble is the zips are a bit sticky and can be quite annoying but overall I m more than happy with it.

I was at the bannockburn bike week last two year and it was freezing,snowy and wet and t he gear was an absolute life saver and kept me warm and dry with minimal underclothing.......I ve has so many good deals from the same shop and just keep going back....always ask for a discount if its not a sale and you ll always be pleasantly surprised.

[Transalper]

$300 down from $800 has got to be good value no matter what.

[R650R]

The RST adventure gear finally got a decent wet weather downpour few weeks back, performed flawlessly.

[Black Knight]

$300 down from $800 has got to be good value no matter what.

Does this not really show just how much markup there is on this gear-I doubt very much that the shop made a loss on this sale.I fully understand that a reasonable markup is required to support the business,but what is reasonable.In this day and age where shops seem to carry fuck all stock and instead "get them in for you"should these high markups be justified especially seeing they have your money before they pay the supplier.End of rant.

[george formby]

.only trouble is the zips are a bit sticky and can be quite annoying


I've discovered that Armourall, the stuff you use to make your car dash look shiney, is a fantastic zip lube. Put some on a cloth and run it up and down the zip. Stays effective for a long time, too.

I guess any good silicone product would work.

Just thought I'd mention it.

And yeah, BK. I really miss places like Hein Gerich in Y'erp. Huge range, great prices. I guess we suffer the economy of scale. Still, our riding opportunities are world class straight out the front door, maybe better. I will put up with high prices and low choices.

[Tazz]

Does this not really show just how much markup there is on this gear-I doubt very much that the shop made a loss on this sale.I fully understand that a reasonable markup is required to support the business,but what is reasonable.In this day and age where shops seem to carry fuck all stock and instead "get them in for you"should these high markups be justified especially seeing they have your money before they pay the supplier.End of rant.

More people won't buy without a discount though, so more shops are marking things up to have room to mark them down.

Of course the retailer isn't the only one to add a mark-up to their product too...so unless you know the wholesale cost it is all speculation.

And then there is the fact the retailer is actually there to make a profit, not get buy on the bones of their arse like most would have them do so they can get a good price all the while usually complaining they don't get paid enough in their own profession :facepalm:

[Trials Rider]

Does this not really show just how much markup there is on this gear-I doubt very much that the shop made a loss on this sale.I fully understand that a reasonable markup is required to support the business,but what is reasonable.In this day and age where shops seem to carry fuck all stock and instead "get them in for you"should these high markups be justified especially seeing they have your money before they pay the supplier.End of rant.

I can tell you that the markup on riding gear is not a get rich quickly scheme and sometimes not even a get rich slowly scheme :no:, I work in the motorbike Industry, Fire and Rescue Industry and Storage industry, they are all profitable and I make no bones about it :2thumbsup, if it wasn't profitable you would been gone in two months, however out of the three industries the motorbike stuff produces the least amount of money for the time involved and the Storage is the best time for money, (bugger that's all my trade secrets gone :facepalm:)

If the shop has had the item in stock for a while they are better to write it off and discount rather than counting it for two stock takes and payment tax twice.

These are our web sites
www.motomox.co.nz
www.firequip.co.nz
www.kaiapoistorage.co.nz

Now I will watch all these storage units pop up, just not in Kaiapoi please

[george formby]

And then there is the fact the retailer is actually there to make a profit, not get buy on the bones of their arse like most would have them do so they can get a good price all the while usually complaining they don't get paid enough in their own profession :facepalm:

Quid pro quo.