Remedy found for those cutting corners in Paradise [Archive]

FJRider

1st February 2015, 22:03

On one particular corner in the Kawerau gorge here in Paradise ... Police have often focused on photographing those crossing the double yellow center lines. Well .. no more. The remedy has been found and installed.

Below is a few recent pics of the corner in question. The skid marks on the road tell a few stories .... :shifty:

The yellow posts go for 200 meters total.

A few posts missing (already) and tyre marks on most ... :laugh:

Berries

1st February 2015, 22:37

Imagine a campervan coming round that corner and just clipping a post enough to send it flying in to the path of a rider going the other way. Clearly if some are missing they are getting hit. That'll be a nice surprise as you set up for the corner at night.

In one direction (your 4th photo) you can see clearly that there are no vehicles coming and thus is is not unsafe to cut the corner. Fuck, it was a decent overtaking opportunity until the double yellows got painted. If there were a shed load of crashes caused by people crossing the centre line here then I could understand it, but there aren't any. So all that has happened is an unnecessary hazard has been introduced for all road users but one that could be particularly bad for motorcyclists. And only a week or two before MSAC come down here and tell us about all the good work they are doing making the roads safer for motorbike riders.

Bollocks.

AllanB

1st February 2015, 22:37

Road to Queenstown?

Interesting solution - writing tickets does not work.

Madness

1st February 2015, 23:06

Bollocks.

Someone should start a partition!

ellipsis

2nd February 2015, 00:42

Someone should start a partition!

...putting a wall there would be a little extreme...

unstuck

2nd February 2015, 06:01

Had lots of scary moments through there in the spray truck, I think the addition of those things would make it worse.:eek:

haydes55

2nd February 2015, 10:45

I like how the sticks are painted to blend into the center line :facepalm:

caspernz

2nd February 2015, 11:14

Yippee! A solution... What was the problem though?

Bit like the Rimutaka Hill...it just had to have that solid double yellow all the way across :no:

ellipsis

2nd February 2015, 11:58

Akzle

2nd February 2015, 13:02

Akzle

2nd February 2015, 13:03

@op.

SLALOM BABY!

Banditbandit

2nd February 2015, 14:48

FJRider

2nd February 2015, 15:51

In one direction (your 4th photo) you can see clearly that there are no vehicles coming and thus is is not unsafe to cut the corner.

To be fair ... I took the pic standing off the road on the hard right hand side of the road. 50 meters to the cliff face as the road veers to the right and then left up the hill.

Had I taken it more to the left ... you would lose sight of the uphill bit very soon after that point.

Interestingly ... visitors to the area have less issue with this corner than the locals ... go figure ...

FJRider

2nd February 2015, 15:54

Road to Queenstown?

:yes:

Interesting solution - writing tickets does not work.

:no:

Berries

2nd February 2015, 18:37

Statistically campervan drivers are bad for keeping left anyway. They look a lot safer for a bike to hit than the Cheese Cutter barriers though and maybe they will install them if these don't work. Some of you will just have to slow down a bit more on that road eh?
If anyone was going to pick up the wrong end of the stick it was you. Statistically campervans are wider than cars and therefore much more likely to hit these posts. As are trucks, and buses, as witnessed by the fact that at least three of them were down at the weekend, just waiting to be flicked back in to the lane by a passing vehicle. My concern is with a post being knocked out and flung towards someone riding past, the type of incident that is almost impossible to avoid regardless of what speed you are riding.

FJRider

2nd February 2015, 19:02

My concern is with a post being knocked out and flung towards someone riding past, the type of incident that is almost impossible to avoid regardless of what speed you are riding.

They're actually a very soft plastic. You can squeeze them with your fingers. Your kids could safely have sword fight with them ...

Since they were installed a few weeks ago ... four have gone missing. It may get expensive for the authorities ... if they continually need replacing.

The average flow of traffic is slower through there now though ... and I'm through there about three times a week in a truck (often more times) and I haven't hit one yet.

Did you note the skid marks in photo three ... any ideas how they got there ... being halfway down the hill .. ??? :scratch:

scumdog

2nd February 2015, 19:08

In one direction (your 4th photo) you can see clearly that there are no vehicles coming and thus is is not unsafe to cut the corner.

IF you're already on the wrong side of the road.

What's the view like on the left-hand side of the road????

unstuck

2nd February 2015, 19:09

any ideas how they got there ... being halfway down the hill .. ??? :scratch:

Braking for cyclists would be my guess. The busses were the ones that used to give me the shits through there when in the spray truck or side arm mower. Apart from the CromTran truck that hit the rear wheel on the Deutz and nearly pushed me through the barrier.:shit:

FJRider

2nd February 2015, 19:37

IF you're already on the wrong side of the road.

What's the view like on the left-hand side of the road????

This point in the gorge is easily found on Google maps streetview.

Berries

2nd February 2015, 19:42

They're actually a very soft plastic. You can squeeze them with your fingers. Your kids could safely have sword fight with them ...
Closing speed of over 100km/h? I think not. And have you noticed that the bases are coming away with a big lump of the road attached?

What's the view like on the left-hand side of the road????
Not bad if you set your self up, although pointless now that the yellow lines are there.

kiwi cowboy

2nd February 2015, 20:07

@op.

SLALOM BABY!

fuck ya I was lining up to say that but ya beat me ya cooont:devil2:

Berries

3rd February 2015, 05:53

Would still rather be hit by one of those than a campervan though. I would give up riding if I felt it was as likely to happen as much as you do. I only drive that road about once or twice a year though and may think differently if it was my everyday commuting route.
I go through there several times a month but I was actually thinking about you and everybody else who rides through the gorge, not just myself. The chance of it happening is slim, but the hazard is totally unnecessary.

awayatc

3rd February 2015, 07:26

Straight roads are boring.....

I go out of my way to find some nice twisty bits....

why the fuck would any biker want to straighten those bits out when they find them.....?

also not very impressed when anything comes towards me in MY lane....

forget about soft yellow dildos...
they should get a tap on the head with a baseballl bat....

Ocean1

3rd February 2015, 17:44

@op.

SLALOM BABY!

There's some of them around Grays road locally. Traffic calming measure apparently.

I can honestly say that taking every second one on the other side avoids any tendency to fall asleep.

FJRider

3rd February 2015, 17:56

Closing speed of over 100km/h? I think not.

ANY motorcyclist getting in range of being hit by one is an idiot.

And have you noticed that the bases are coming away with a big lump of the road attached?

No.

Not bad if you set your self up, although pointless now that the yellow lines are there.

Apart from the fact that most motorists ignore the double yellows here ... this corner can be taken at/near the open road speeds ... without issues.

Experienced motorcyclists should have no bother with this road. Unless they are used to Motorways ...

FJRider

3rd February 2015, 18:00

... forget about soft yellow dildos...
they should get a tap on the head with a baseballl bat....

On this bit of road ... those leaning into the right hand corners might get "Tapped" on the head by one of those soft yellow dildo's ...

AllanB

3rd February 2015, 18:08

Christchurch drivers could power through there at speed - we are well versed in the art of high speed navigation between road cones.

swbarnett

3rd February 2015, 18:11

ANY motorcyclist getting in range of being hit by one is an idiot.
I hit poles of this type at about 80kph in my first year of riding. I was avoiding a truck that didn't like the fact that I honked at them when they tried to park on my 30 seconds earlier.

Even though they hit my largely unprotected knee (jeans only) I didn't feel a thing. They just bent under my and sprang back afterwards. I would've been history if they were cheese graters.

FJRider

3rd February 2015, 18:35

I hit poles of this type at about 80kph in my first year of riding. I was avoiding a truck that didn't like the fact that I honked at them when they tried to park on my 30 seconds earlier.

Even though they hit my largely unprotected knee (jeans only) I didn't feel a thing. They just bent under my and sprang back afterwards. I would've been history if they were cheese graters.

I hate people that try to make issues from what would be a non event.

I hope Berries reads your post.

Berries

3rd February 2015, 19:47

ANY motorcyclist getting in range of being hit by one is an idiot.

I hope Berries reads your post.
I wasn't talking about riding along and hitting one, I was talking about one being hit by oncoming traffic and it being thrown at you. I'd rather not have to take avoiding action just there given the lack of run off on either side.

swbarnett

3rd February 2015, 21:06

I wasn't talking about riding along and hitting one, I was talking about one being hit by oncoming traffic and it being thrown at you. I'd rather not have to take avoiding action just there given the lack of run off on either side.
Ah, you mean a broken one flying at you. Yeah, that would be nasty.

FJRider

4th February 2015, 17:46

I wasn't talking about riding along and hitting one, I was talking about one being hit by oncoming traffic and it being thrown at you. I'd rather not have to take avoiding action just there given the lack of run off on either side.

In that part of Paradise ... more chance of being hit by a Campervan. ;)

Being hit by a yellow dildo would be preferable. :yes:

Maha

4th February 2015, 17:50

In that part of Paradise ... more chance of being hit by a Campervan. ;)

Being hit by a yellow dildo would be preferable. :yes:

This from Berries is brilliant ''Statistically campervans are wider than cars'' Statistically? :laugh: I would say Actually.

Berries

4th February 2015, 18:03

In that part of Paradise ... more chance of being hit by a Campervan. ;)
Never happened. There has not been a crash on that corner for years.

Like you said earlier, it is the locals who cut the corner so perhaps I should have said bus or truck rather than campervan. It was the width of the vehicle I was highlighting, not any particular driving practices.

This from Berries is brilliant ''Statistically campervans are wider than cars'' Statistically? :laugh: I would say Actually.
You want to see my Pontiac.

Madness

4th February 2015, 18:57

I would say Actually.

Perhaps you should stick to really bad sheep jokes? A Holden Commodore is almost 2" wider than a Toyota Hiace.

FJRider

4th February 2015, 19:29

Like you said earlier, it is the locals who cut the corner so perhaps I should have said bus or truck rather than campervan.

With the big yellow dildos in place ... unlikely at that corner. The poles are only on 200 meters of the roadway. Plenty of road in the rest of the gorge you can (and have been) get/been clobbered by a campervan.

You want to see my Pontiac.

Nah ...

Maha

5th February 2015, 05:40

Perhaps you should stick to really bad sheep jokes? A Holden Commodore is almost 2" wider than a Toyota Hiace.

A Hiace is just a van, add curtains and a mattress, it is still just a van.

How do you make a ewe turn?

unstuck

5th February 2015, 05:56

How do you make a ewe turn?

Finger up the bum?

Maha

5th February 2015, 13:50

Perhaps you should stick to really bad sheep jokes? A Holden Commodore is almost 2" wider than a Toyota Hiace.

If I were to put some curtains/bedding and a two burner cooker in our Nissan SUV, would it (statistically) become a camper?

Why does Akzle wear track pants?
Because the sheep started running when they heard a zipper.

scumdog

5th February 2015, 19:55

a) no SUVs are for faggots and women

b) RBJIAFP!

i actually havent heard that one before.

NOW there's a revlation - something Akzle HADN'T heard of before!:wait:

Madness

5th February 2015, 20:59

If I were to put some curtains/bedding and a two burner cooker in our Nissan SUV, would it (statistically) become a camper?

Probably not. I'd say you'd have more chance (statistically) of just looking like a homeless person.

Unless you were in Mangakino.

Maha

6th February 2015, 06:36

Probably not. I'd say you'd have more chance (statistically) of just looking like a homeless person.

Unless you were in Mangakino.

Everyone has home there, it's so affordable.

: Why did akzle dump his goat friend? because he didn't want to shear her.