I just don't get Harleys. MBB, copping negative Rep since ages ago.

[madbikeboy]

I just don't get Harleys.

I was following a super shiny Harley with hard paniers and top box yesterday. It was very shiny in a candy burgundy. I, and the shit-tonne of cars behind me, got a really good view given he was doing 20K's under the speed limit. Even the old couple in the camper three vehicles back were road raging.

I just don't get Harleys. Even shiny ones. I'm assuming they come with matching slacks and panty liners.

[f2dz]

What were you riding/driving at the time? Learn to overtake maybe?

People ride/drive at their own pace. Some people are slow.

I don't understand the point here..

[Old Steve]

Don't think it was the Harley's fault.

The rider was doing 20 Ks below the speed limit, the bike had nothing to do with it.

He could have been on a Triumph Rocket III and still been doing that speed and he would have been just as much a nuisance to following vehicles. Or on a Goldwing, or a Boulevard M109, or a Kwaka V1700, or any other bike.

[puddytat]

Its that "Fuck you" attitude which comes free with purchase....

[madbikeboy]

What were you riding/driving at the time? Learn to overtake maybe?

People ride/drive at their own pace. Some people are slow.

I don't understand the point here..

I was in the cage. If I had of been on the bike, there would have been a Harley riding posting something about riders who are about to become roadkill.

[madbikeboy]

Its that "Fuck you" attitude which comes free with purchase....

He was brilliant about waving at other Harleys. I thought he was going to crash on one bend as he was waving (using his throttle hand)...

[avgas]

I think pre-1950's Harleys are slightly cooler. pre-1930's Harleys are fookn awesome.

VRod was ok......but I would expect nothing less from Porsche Design. They made a air cooled Flat Four in a crappy 2 door commuter cool.

[mossy1200]

Mighta been running it in.........................

After its third rebuild.

[skippa1]

I just don't get Harleys.

I was following a super shiny Harley with hard paniers and top box yesterday. It was very shiny in a candy burgundy. I, and the shit-tonne of cars behind me, got a really good view given he was doing 20K's under the speed limit. Even the old couple in the camper three vehicles back were road raging.

I just don't get Harleys. Even shiny ones. I'm assuming they come with matching slacks and panty liners.
Mehhh.....i dont get cunts that live in aussie and post on a kiwi forum.....but there ya go, different strokes

[AllanB]

I hate those Harleys that are hauling arse and fanging it hard around the corners and you have to make a concentrated effort to stay with.

WTF are those guys thinking? Do they not realise they have a image to keep up?

[Madness]

I've never ridden one but there are at least 3 models I would consider owning. I'm just not old enough yet.

[madbikeboy]

Mehhh.....i dont get cunts that live in aussie and post on a kiwi forum.....but there ya go, different strokes

Go fuck yourself. I'm in NZ for the summer. And I'm a kiwi.

[madbikeboy]

I hate those Harleys that are hauling arse and fanging it hard around the corners and you have to make a concentrated effort to stay with.

WTF are those guys thinking? Do they not realise they have a image to keep up?

Haven't seen that, ever.

[skippa1]

Go fuck yourself. I'm in NZ for the summer. And I'm a kiwi.
A real kiwi doesnt live in aussie........cunt

[awayatc]

You got no idea what that means to me......

devastated

[scumdog]

Haven't seen that, ever.


You've not seen too many Harleys then?

Even my one with another KBer riding it would leave plenty of 'other brands' in the dust.

But I suggest you unbunch your panties, slow and inconsiderate rider are out there on all sorts of bikes.

[pete-blen]

He was a new or wantabe that just spent his saveing on his new image..But now he's kooooooooooool... :lol:

[Madness]

...with another KBer riding it...

The Ginga?

There's a couple of old bastards I know of down Welly way that can steer a Harley over the Rimutakas quicker than most on sprotsbikes. Russ from Feathers on a mid-90's FXDX is worthy of particular mention here. Russ is a man that's not content with just grinding footpegs, any fool can do that.

[Tazz]

http://photos.imageevent.com/peteh/motorcyclepics/huge/NoWords.jpg

[Bikemad]

Even my one with another KBer riding it would leave plenty of 'other brands' in the dust.


what.........you mean just after it fell over??

[bingslayer]

theres no bigger douche on the road than the guy on the Harley. Its unfortunate really, but isnt that the lifestyle, you dont give a fuck? you dont give a fuck that everyone thinks you are a gigantic douche.

I know im stereo typing here but still.....

[Swivel]

[QUOTE=madbikeboy;1130828967]I just don't get Harleys.

lol, Harley's most
Commonly used accessories are tow trucks

[Headbanger]

Fuckin skippy/kiwi hybrids.

Its unnatural, Like those infected with the gayness, and the strange womens not content with a life based around the kitchen.

No good will come of it, mark my words.


Next we will be fucking spiders.

[Headbanger]

[QUOTE=madbikeboy;1130828967]I just don't get Harleys.

lol, Harley's most
Commonly used accessories are tow trucks

Fuck off, Its fucking tassels.

Long, flowing in the wind, glorious tassels.


Tow trucks are good for fuck all, what you want is a good strong trailer attached to a reliable recovery vehicle.


And tassels.








Because tassels.

[Flip]

I love the tassels also.:blink:

The fuck you attitude is a special HD thing. Its like a fine wine and develops with age. But in this case most of the attitude is a special thing saved up for jap bike riders with a chip on their shoulder.:yes:

I take it the rider on the HD did not wave at you?:violin::violin::violin::violin::violin::violi n:

[awayatc]

theres no bigger douche on the road than the guy on the Harley. Its unfortunate really, but isnt that the lifestyle, you dont give a fuck? you dont give a fuck that everyone thinks you are a gigantic douche.

I know im stereo typing here but still.....


I am saving up to buy a 250...,..

coz I want to be as cool as you.....

[awayatc]

[QUOTE=madbikeboy;1130828967]I just don't get Harleys.

lol, Harley's most
Commonly used accessories are tow trucks

Funny coming from somebody with a cheap japanese harley wanna be (but can't afford it ) rip off......learners bike.:bash:



Number of times my Harley has broken down in 6 years.....?. Zero.

[awayatc]

You've not seen too many Harleys then?

Even my one with another KBer riding it would leave plenty of 'other brands' in the dust.

But I suggest you unbunch your panties, slow and inconsiderate rider are out there on all sorts of bikes.

Wish I got a beer for every cool bike I have passed on a Harley over the years....

must be soul destroying for Rossi wanna bees on crotchrockets to get passed by an old cunt on an armchair......

(Tassels flying coz hair is gone......)

[unstuck]

Most tractors these days have a 50kmh gearbox, so 80kmh is pretty good actually. :msn-wink:

Who cares what your riding, you could be riding an FA50 for all I care, as long as you are grinning while doing it. But then I don't really give a fuck about what anyone else thinks of me. Especially not a bunch of halfwit "Bikers". :Punk::Punk:

[Maha]

Stereotyped Harley Couple..

He = Big grey/orange mustache (grey because of his age and orange because he still smokes Park Drive)
The leather vest/jacket with 856 badges attached from the 856 events he has attended over the years.
Can’t miss the Lion Red induced waistline hanging over the faux bull denim jeans which barely cover the 1970’s etched Tan leather cowboy boots.

She = Ashen/Skinny and wearing arseless chaps.

[willytheekid]

...Even my one with another KBer riding it would leave plenty of 'other brands' in the dust.


http://ppchero.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/pick_me_kitten.jpeg

...I love the pritty sparks they make going round corners at excessively fun speed :drool: (You have good insurance aye?:blink:)

[unstuck]

Stereotyped Harley Couple..

He = Big grey/orange mustache (grey because of his age and orange because he still smokes Park Drive)
The leather vest/jacket with 856 badges attached from the 856 events he has attended over the years.
Can’t miss the Lion Red induced waistline hanging over the faux bull denim jeans which barely cover the 1970’s etched Tan leather cowboy boots.

She = Ashen/Skinny and wearing arseless chaps.

You have met my neighbors then.:lol: Although I would not call her skinny, more "big boned".

[Drew]

Hard paniers and top box, hmmm, I'm thinking electraglide.

One in Welly a few years ago was good for over 200ks, nick named 'Big Bertha'. Hey Pete, was it Bernie that had that and put it in a paddock up Himitangi way?

Anyhoo, I know more good cunts that ride Harleys, than proper cunts.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Even my one with another KBer riding it would leave plenty of 'other brands' in the dust.

.

Yeah I've not been over taken too many times whilst hogging it.


Hard paniers and top box, hmmm, I'm thinking electraglide.

One in Welly a few years ago was good for over 200ks, nick named 'Big Bertha'. Hey Pete, was it Bernie that had that and put it in a paddock up Himitangi way?

.

Sure was.

[Drew]

Yeah I've not been over taken too many times whilst hogging it.



Sure was.
There is tale of old, where some took superglide two up over the takahs. Bit of drizzle and nek minute, he's overtaking sports bikes the long way round and giving them a hiding.

[iranana]

the excitement in riding is all about the cornering... ya know, leaning in hard, winding it up to edge of the powerband and then letting it rip as you exit said bend. I could never enjoy a harley for how damn badly they seem to corner (or maybe its the rider, who knows).

[Crasherfromwayback]

There is tale of old, where some took superglide two up over the takahs. Bit of drizzle and nek minute, he's overtaking sports bikes the long way round and giving them a hiding.

Lol. Many years ago I gave a superglide a serious hiding with my GF of the time on the back. Hit the dip in the road before the 2nd bridge going into Featherston so hard it twisted the lower frame rail with the sump guard on it out of the way and punched a hole through the sump on the road surface. Bought the thing back with triangulated mufflers and no footpegs to speak of. Was told in no uncertain terms that next time I did that I'd be fixing it.

[buggerit]

Lol. Many years ago I gave a superglide a serious hiding with my GF of the time on the back. Hit the dip in the road before the 2nd bridge going into Featherston so hard it twisted the lower frame rail with the sump guard on it out of the way and punched a hole through the sump on the road surface. Bought the thing back with triangulated mufflers and no footpegs to speak of. Was told in no uncertain terms that next time I did that I'd be fixing it.

This is always a risk with those big boned lasses:innocent:

[madbikeboy]

Lol. Many years ago I gave a superglide a serious hiding with my GF of the time on the back. Hit the dip in the road before the 2nd bridge going into Featherston so hard it twisted the lower frame rail with the sump guard on it out of the way and punched a hole through the sump on the road surface. Bought the thing back with triangulated mufflers and no footpegs to speak of. Was told in no uncertain terms that next time I did that I'd be fixing it.

A+ for effort.

[madbikeboy]

A real kiwi doesnt live in aussie........cunt

Almost a million of us real Kiwi's live overseas. And go fuck yourself some more.

[Crasherfromwayback]

This is always a risk with those big boned lasses:innocent:

Nah. Wee Nan was just that. She was about 5 foot nothing and 50kgs.


A+ for effort.

Lol. Cheers. FXD's certainly aren't over endowed with ground clearance though. That one had considerably more once I'd finished with it though.

[madbikeboy]

Nah. Wee Nan was just that. She was about 5 foot nothing and 50kgs.



Lol. Cheers. FXD's certainly aren't over endowed with ground clearance though. That one had considerably more once I'd finished with it though.

The lack of steering head angle is the biggest problem, as you turn in, you lose any feel for what the front end is doing - even if it had 60 degrees of lean angle available, it's still hard to get it turned in and stay upright. Anyone who can ride a big harley fast is endowed with mucho testicale.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The lack of steering head angle is the biggest problem, as you turn in, you lose any feel for what the front end is doing - even if it had 60 degrees of lean angle available, it's still hard to get it turned in and stay upright. Anyone who can ride a big harley fast is endowed with mucho testicale.

Nah. FXD's are 28 deg in the steering head so not too bad. Can be punted quite hard. Biggest drawback is how the swing arm is mounted. It only goes through the back of the transmission...not the frame. And because the engine is rubber mounted...they get a bit *rubbery* when pushed. Softails don't have that issue. So if I'm trying to make a prick of myself on a big Harley...it's normally on an FXST or similar. They're slower in the steering but waaaaaay stiffer in the chassis.

[pritch]

Nah. Wee Nan was just that. She was about 5 foot nothing and 50kgs.



I hope she was older than twelve? :devil2:

Was out for a ride one day with a group mostly comprising cruisers. The road was wet but through the Uruti valley the Harley riders were cruising at 90kph and slowing for the bends!

On the way beck coming up Mt Messenger I was being a bit careful as the patches of road that were shaded were still damp. Three of the Harley dudes passed me on a bend going like the clappers. Like totally different riders. At the car park on top they were jumping out of their skins, really hyper, they had been going for it. I still haven't figured that out.

[madbikeboy]

Nah. FXD's are 28 deg in the steering head so not too bad. Can be punted quite hard. Biggest drawback is how the swing arm is mounted. It only goes through the back of the transmission...not the frame. And because the engine is rubber mounted...they get a bit *rubbery* when pushed. Softails don't have that issue. So if I'm trying to make a prick of myself on a big Harley...it's normally on an FXST or similar. They're slower in the steering but waaaaaay stiffer in the chassis.

You recall in the 80's that saying about frames having a hinge in the middle…?

The sensation is weird for a sports bike rider, as you turn in the bike wants to push, and the feedback through the bars is like it's going to tuck. I rode a GSXR11 home many years ago with a leaky front tyre, same feeling. The thing I like about sports bikes is that the bike will turn as fast as you want, and the level of grip and feedback are awesome; you can slide the front at will. Hence harleys leaving me cold.

[madbikeboy]

I hope she was older than twelve? :devil2:

Was out for a ride one day with a group mostly comprising cruisers. The road was wet but through the Uruti valley the Harley riders were cruising at 90kph and slowing for the bends!

On the way beck coming up Mt Messenger I was being a bit careful as the patches of road that were shaded were still damp. Three of the Harley dudes passed me on a bend going like the clappers. Like totally different riders. At the car park on top they were jumping out of their skins, really hyper, they had been going for it. I still haven't figured that out.


Wasn't it Moses who used a Harley to part an ocean?

[Crasherfromwayback]

I hope she was older than twelve? :devil2:

.


Considerably!


You recall in the 80's that saying about frames having a hinge in the middle…?

The sensation is weird for a sports bike rider, as you turn in the bike wants to push, and the feedback through the bars is like it's going to tuck. I rode a GSXR11 home many years ago with a leaky front tyre, same feeling. The thing I like about sports bikes is that the bike will turn as fast as you want, and the level of grip and feedback are awesome; you can slide the front at will. Hence harleys leaving me cold.

I was there Mate! But you get used to lazyish steering. A decently setup Harley is much like riding a heavy dirtbike.

[Flip]

Yep, my road king has 28 deg camber and the rubber mounted motor-swingarm. I have 3" dia mufflers which gives me 1/2" extra ground clearance exactly where it is needed (like mounting the pegs 19mm higher on a sports bike). it also has hard urethane motor mounts. Its a bit more rigid than stock but can still get a bit wild when I hit a pothole mid corner (just like a 350 kg trail bike). The other thing that helps me is fitting Conti Milestone tyres, they are a lot softer and chop out faster but are a tire a lot like the old Conti Blitz IMHO.

Its funny that the white nuckle bregade always say "but they are so slow in the corners" well yep they are not sports bikes. When I am out for a fling in the sports car I find all bikes painfully slow in the corners, they brake way to early and are just a PITA to follow. If the corners are your thing on a bike you have to try a "propper" performance car. A good car will carry about 25% more speed through any corner. It's just the bikes have a better power to weight and go like stink after the exit.

The attitude comes with not really giving a fuck. The OP is a prime example, what kind of fuckwit baggs another riders bike. A few years ago there was a keyboard warrior in Chch who I took exception with, I caught up with him on a KBWNR from the pic of his bike. He sure talked like a hard man but when I walked up to him he was a funny wee androgenous boy who didn't come up to my shoulder and I would have been a good 40kg heavier than him. I let the rage I had go, I am not that hard a man, but I know many who are.

[awayatc]

No matter what bike you ride, you will at times push things to the limit.
Harley's limits are far lower then a proper sport's bikes limits

Most riders however aren't anywhere near Rossi s skill levels, thus all of this becones less relevant.
when I push things and work hard, I get a good workout with plenty of fun and challenges...
the real speed I manage on the day will be less then some, but higher then other's....
But it will be my best on the day...
all I need.

[GrayWolf]

I hate those Harleys that are hauling arse and fanging it hard around the corners and you have to make a concentrated effort to stay with.

WTF are those guys thinking? Do they not realise they have a image to keep up?

I agree WTF are they doing??? They must be well insured by the wife/girlfriend/blonde bimbo............ Harley 'death weave', that HD deny, yet it seems to happen!!

http://tinyurl.com/o3e3tnm

http://tinyurl.com/lusdj56

[madbikeboy]

The attitude comes with not really giving a fuck. The OP is a prime example, what kind of fuckwit baggs another riders bike. A few years ago there was a keyboard warrior in Chch who I took exception with, I caught up with him on a KBWNR from the pic of his bike. He sure talked like a hard man but when I walked up to him he was a funny wee androgenous boy who didn't come up to my shoulder and I would have been a good 40kg heavier than him. I let the rage I had go, I am not that hard a man, but I know many who are.

I'm that sort of fuck wit. And I'm less polite in real life.

[madbikeboy]

Considerably!



I was there Mate! But you get used to lazyish steering. A decently setup Harley is much like riding a heavy dirtbike.

I've ridden a mate's hypermotard a few times, and I can't get to grips with it. He likes to point out that motocross and road racing share the commonality of two wheels and little else. Riding style and loose nut on top of the bike are 95% of the speed...

[Crasherfromwayback]

............ Harley 'death weave', that HD deny, yet it seems to happen!!

]

9 times out of ten it's the rider pulling on the handle bars that sets up the weave.

[Flip]

I'm that sort of fuck wit. And I'm less polite in real life.

Yep you are a Auzy!

[Tazz]

I love having a chat with the odd Harley rider outside the shop and opening with 'shit that's a nice Honda' :laugh:
Quick way to learn who's a funny bugger and who thinks a lot of themselves.

No other bike marque that gets a bit of stick cries about it as much as Harley owners, which makes you want to take the piss out of them more.

[madbikeboy]

Yep you are a Auzy!

I've spent far more time in the US than Australia, and I've been living between Austin, SF, and Sydney for work for the last year or so. Does that make me American?

[Flip]

I've spent far more time in the US than Australia, and I've been living between Austin, SF, and Sydney for work for the last year or so. Does that make me American?

Well only two things come from Texas....... SF and Sydney........ How do you feel about Hondas?

[madbikeboy]

Well only two things come from Texas....... SF and Sydney........ How do you feel about Hondas?

Steers and queers huh? You've got to see the women in Austin to understand the attraction. Plus, there's a pretty nice race track there as well. SF has Sonoma park raceway, and it's close to Monterey (Laguna Seca). Fucking awesome part of the world, even the cops are reasonable considering how I ride. Sydney is like Nazi germany without the spiffy uniforms and tanks - if you ride here, you'll get to meet most of the local cops reasonably quickly. But the nightlife (and wildlife) makes up for it.

[Flip]

Steers and queers huh? You've got to see the women in Austin to understand the attraction. Plus, there's a pretty nice race track there as well. SF has Sonoma park raceway, and it's close to Monterey (Laguna Seca). Fucking awesome part of the world, even the cops are reasonable considering how I ride. Sydney is like Nazi germany without the spiffy uniforms and tanks - if you ride here, you'll get to meet most of the local cops reasonably quickly. But the nightlife (and wildlife) makes up for it.

I worked in Galverston, Freeport, Beaumont area for a while for Mobil Oil. The nice thing about Aust is the Tasman sea.

[Maha]

You have met my neighbors then.:lol: Although I would not call her skinny, more "big boned".

Maybe they roll play? :sick:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Here's what ya want.

http://www.cycleworld.com/2011/08/11/mule-motorcycles-super-street-tracker-special-feature/

[f2dz]

Don't be so quick to judge Harley riders.

Some of the nicest riders I've met ride Harleys and a couple could easily out-ride most people I see on sports bikes.

[Banditbandit]

Haven't seen that, ever.

I have .. I was pushing it across the Napier-Taupo one day .. around 180+ klicks and having fun ... no bikes at all .. approaching Te Haroto I glanced in the rear view mirror and there was a fucking Harley on my arse .. fuck knows where he came from .. he was a mate I thought I'd left way way back ...


You've not seen too many Harleys then?

Even my one with another KBer riding it would leave plenty of 'other brands' in the dust.

But I suggest you unbunch your panties, slow and inconsiderate rider are out there on all sorts of bikes.

Yeah .. I imagine you would .. and yes slow riders on all sorts of bikes ..

[nzspokes]

The attitude comes with not really giving a fuck. The OP is a prime example, what kind of fuckwit baggs another riders bike. A few years ago there was a keyboard warrior in Chch who I took exception with, I caught up with him on a KBWNR from the pic of his bike. He sure talked like a hard man but when I walked up to him he was a funny wee androgenous boy who didn't come up to my shoulder and I would have been a good 40kg heavier than him. I let the rage I had go, I am not that hard a man, but I know many who are.



I ride regularly with Harley riders that love the bikes. They are not my thing but I appreciate the bikes for what they are.

[scumdog]

Nah. FXD's are 28 deg in the steering head so not too bad. Can be punted quite hard. Biggest drawback is how the swing arm is mounted. It only goes through the back of the transmission...not the frame. And because the engine is rubber mounted...they get a bit *rubbery* when pushed. .

I've learned to live with that sensation.

That and scruffy bottoms on the mufflers...

[scumdog]

Stereotyped Harley Couple..

He = Big grey/orange mustache (grey because of his age and orange because he still smokes Park Drive)
The leather vest/jacket with 856 badges attached from the 856 events he has attended over the years.
Can’t miss the Lion Red induced waistline hanging over the faux bull denim jeans which barely cover the 1970’s etched Tan leather cowboy boots.

She = Ashen/Skinny and wearing arseless chaps.

Well you can't mean me and CB 'cos we look nothing like the above - does that mean we're not real Harley riders??:confused:

[bingslayer]

I am saving up to buy a 250...,..

coz I want to be as cool as you.....

That was years ago, I should really change it. I would still rather be on the lil zxr than a harley. Smart choice :niceone:

[Swoop]

No other bike marque that gets a bit of stick cries about it as much as Harley owners, which makes you want to take the piss out of them more.

I was slightly perplexed with the Harley going up Lincoln Rd the other day. The rear tyre was half deflated! Guess it improved the handling in some way?
The "operator" seemed quite oblivious to it and was happily revving and annoying the other road users, so left him to it.

[Motu]

I do a 40km open road commute, the only other bike I see on the road is a Harley - he's decided he'll give me a discreet wave now. Fuck that! I ride a BMW, I don't even wave to scooters, let alone another BMW. It's summer, and the only bike I see in 80km a day is a Harley.

[TheDemonLord]

Harley's aren't my thing.

They represent everything I don't like about America - but if you like them, good for you....

[Motu]

There are more Harleys out there riding, day and night, all year round than all other motorcycles put together. They may be stupid bikes with dickhead riders, but they sure aren't scared of getting out there and riding the things.

[Jezxa]

There are also a lot that just sit in garages and never get ridden though.
Like the guy I was talking to today, said he was a Harley rider so naturally I asked if he'd had a good ride over the weekend. His response was he hadn't taken the soft tail out of the garage in over 7 years.

[Crasherfromwayback]

There are also a lot that just sit in garages and never get ridden though.
Like the guy I was talking to today, said he was a Harley rider so naturally I asked if he'd had a good ride over the weekend. His response was he hadn't taken the soft tail out of the garage in over 7 years.

I've got quite a few bikes that sit around never being ridden. Doesn't mean they're not cool as shit to own.

[scumdog]

There are more Harleys out there riding, day and night, all year round than all other motorcycles put together. They may be stupid bikes with dickhead riders, but they sure aren't scared of getting out there and riding the things.

At the rally in the week-end Harleys and Triumphs combined probably outnumbered all the other bikes put together.

But of course sadly there's a certain amount of Harleys that ARE garage-queens.:(

[haydes55]

Given the choice of: light weight, lower displacement, better power, better efficiency, handling and all round speed.
Or big displacement, crap power for the cc, heavy as shit, crap suspension, wallowy handling, drinks gas like a funnel and slow...

I'd take the latter..... If it was a car.

I'd rather an old muscle car than a new faster, better handling, lighter car.

Change one word, from car, to bike.... And my opinion flips, give me the faster one.

People who ride Harleys, look at their bikes as the hot rods of the bike world. Hot rods make a lot of noise, are built for looks with over sized engines with horrible hp/displacement ratio. But I'd bet boy racers etc would bag on hot rods just the same for being slow to corner etc.

[Crasherfromwayback]

People who ride Harleys, look at their bikes as the hot rods of the bike world. Hot rods make a lot of noise, are built for looks with over sized engines with horrible hp/displacement ratio. But I'd bet boy racers etc would bag on hot rods just the same for being slow to corner etc.

The thing is...you've obviously never ridden a hot rodded Harley. It's that simple. They're really impressive.

[scumdog]

The thing is...you've obviously never ridden a hot rodded Harley. It's that simple. They're really impressive.

And standard ones are not thirsty - 97kph each on our 1200cc and 1450cc bikes for a combined total of just over 13 litres of fuel.

[Monsterbishi]

The thing is...you've obviously never ridden a hot rodded Harley. It's that simple. They're really impressive.

When compared to what???

[Crasherfromwayback]

When compared to what???

Anything really. If you get the chance to ride a 120R do so. It'll change your perspective totally. Trust me.

[skippa1]

Almost a million of us real Kiwi's live overseas. And go fuck yourself some more.
You can polish a turd but its still a turd and youre still a cunt

[ellipsis]

The thing is...you've obviously never ridden a hot rodded Harley. It's that simple. They're really impressive.


The thing is...you've obviously never ridden a hot rodded Harley. It's that simple. They're really impressive.


...just had to post it again Pete...

...or any Harley at all, I would venture...would be like their first fuck..if they have had one at all...I cant be fucked giving the percentage of SB riders that hold me up, thinking they are going for it...and that's on my Sporty...been racing jappys for so long that having a cool ride within the bounds of semi legality on a non problematic, cool looking, low stressed motor is like a holiday...I wonder if the cool dude wank fuck percentage of sprots that cook their nuts over us, came out and had a race day with us , how they'd go by the end of the day...bit ragged, I reckon...

[Motu]

At the rally in the week-end Harleys and Triumphs combined probably outnumbered all the other bikes put together.(

It appears they don't like it that there are more riders out there all the time on scooters and Harleys than go fast sports bikes. That's how we get threads like this. Something about protesting too much...

[Monsterbishi]

Anything really. If you get the chance to ride a 120R do so. It'll change your perspective totally. Trust me.

A 2 litre, 137hp motor which was quite literally developed at a facility that used to be Briggs and Stratton - yup, that's really got me wanting it! :lol:

[haydes55]

The thing is...you've obviously never ridden a hot rodded Harley. It's that simple. They're really impressive.


Compare a hot rodded Harley to a hot rodded sports bike then....

That efficiency comment was more aimed at the old school cars. But I'd imagine a Harley ridden in anger wouldn't sip the gas.... Although neither will a sportsbike.

Just giving a bit of perspective.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The thing is...you've obviously never ridden a hot rodded Harley. It's that simple. They're really impressive.


...just had to post it again Pete...

...or any Harley at all, I would venture...would be like their first fuck..if they have had one at all...I cant be fucked giving the percentage of SB riders that hold me up, thinking they are going for it...and that's on my Sporty...been racing jappys for so long that having a cool ride within the bounds of semi legality on a non problematic, cool looking, low stressed motor is like a holiday...I wonder if the cool dude wank fuck percentage of sprots that cook their nuts over us, came out and had a race day with us , how they'd go by the end of the day...bit ragged, I reckon...

Lol. The thing is...most people simply bag the things because of their own insecurities. I mean...a turbo charged GSXR1000 must be a fucking beast of a thing right? And for sure they are. But they only produce the same amount of torque as a 120R Harley engine. (around 121ftlb). A mate of mine has run his 120R equipped Fatbob (all 320kg's of it) down the 1/4 mile @ 10.2. And he's never drag raced in his life. With someone on it that knows what they're doing...you're talking a nine sec 1/4 here. ZX14 territory. Slow? Like fuck!

[skippa1]

A 2 litre, 137hp motor which was quite literally developed at a facility that used to be Briggs and Stratton - yup, that's really got me wanting it! :lol:
Youre embarassing youself.......

[Crasherfromwayback]

Compare a hot rodded Harley to a hot rodded sports bike then....

.

Ok. GSXR1000 turbo. 120 ftlb torque. 120R equipped Harley = 120ftlb torque. One weighs around 190 kgs and will run a 9 sec 1/4, the other over 300 and will still do so. How's that for a comparrison?

[Virago]

That was years ago, I should really change it. I would still rather be on the lil zxr than a harley. Smart choice :niceone:

Just out of interest, how many Harleys have you ridden?

[Crasherfromwayback]

A 2 litre, 137hp motor which was quite literally developed at a facility that used to be Briggs and Stratton - yup, that's really got me wanting it! :lol:

And you ride a motorcycle that's made by a company that makes pianos. Sounds legit.

[MIXONE]

I just don't get people who bag other people's rides.
All good in jest between mates but otherwise I think it could be a case of penis envy.




Why can't we all just get along...

[Laava]

Compare a hot rodded Harley to a hot rodded sports bike then....

That efficiency comment was more aimed at the old school cars. But I'd imagine a Harley ridden in anger wouldn't sip the gas.... Although neither will a sportsbike.

Just giving a bit of perspective.

Here is some perspective. Plus it is quite amusing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDIeXqysMUI&sns=em

[Monsterbishi]

And you ride a motorcycle that's made by a company that makes pianos. Sounds legit.

You just compared the 120r to my bike that's 21 years old, has a engine 1/3 the size of a 120r and will out brake, out turn and nearly as quick.

They've developed a motor that for all good measure, is still less powerful than the 2 litre from a early 90's Nissan Primera.

I don't have a problem with Harleys, those who ride them or what they like to wear when they do, but trying to compare them is pointless, they have their place, just like sportsbikes, trail bikes, multi purpose bikes, etc - all have their strengths and weaknesses, it's your own choice what you celebrate.

[ellipsis]

strengths and weaknesses


...egos have no time for sensibilities...

[jasonu]

A mate of mine has run his 120R equipped Fatbob (all 320kg's of it) down the 1/4 mile @ 10.2. And he's never drag raced in his life. With someone on it that knows what they're doing...you're talking a nine sec 1/4 here. ZX14 territory. Slow? Like fuck!

Until you get to a corner...

Some of the best mc racing I ever saw in NZ was when they had the HD 883 class. The 'cheap' bike and good prize money attracted some of the better riders in NZ at that time. Same thing over here when national racing was still on the tv.

[Drew]

Until you get to a corner...

Some of the best mc racing I ever saw in NZ was when they had the HD 883 class. The 'cheap' bike and good prize money attracted some of the better riders in NZ at that time. Same thing over here when national racing was still on the tv.
It's amusing that you mention this. Pete was a front runner in that class, and could lap Manfeild faster than a lot of guys I know on current sports bikes.

Without flash mods or tyres.

Compound K for the win!

[Maha]

I just don't get people who bag other people's rides.
All good in jest between mates but otherwise I think it could be a case of penis envy.




Why can't we all just get along...

I have a standard post (#30) that I copy/paste into any Harley thread, all good fun from where I sit. What I observe though, is threads of this nature brings out the lurkers who obviously take the interwebby thing a little to seriously. Honda owner/riders don't react like Harley owner/riders do on similar threads, they just take it on the chin (pun intended) :niceone:

[unstuck]

Honda owner/riders don't react like Harley owner/riders do on similar threads, they just take it IN THE BUM :niceone:

Fixed that for ya.:niceone:
Oh wait I like Hondas.:shit:


The world will be a better place when men can stop waving their dicks at each other.:weird:

[imdying]

Monsterbishi vs Crasher, 5 laps round Ruapuna. Monsterbishi can ride whatever Jappa he can get his hands on, Pete likewise with a HD. No race bikes. Loser pays the others expenses.

[Drew]

Monsterbishi vs Crasher, 5 laps round Ruapuna. Monsterbishi can ride whatever Jappa he can get his hands on, Pete likewise with a HD. No race bikes. Loser pays the others expenses.

Ruapuna is the worst track for a Harley methinks. Lots of flicking from side to side.

Prolly still back Pete though, he can ride okish.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Monsterbishi vs Crasher, 5 laps round Ruapuna. Monsterbishi can ride whatever Jappa he can get his hands on, Pete likewise with a HD. No race bikes. Loser pays the others expenses.

Lol. I need my 883 back then...and to lose 10 kgs so I can get back into my leathers! Still got 'em tucked away just in case. This was Ruapuna. 308865

[Bikemad]

Monsterbishi vs Crasher, 5 laps round Ruapuna. Monsterbishi can ride whatever Jappa he can get his hands on, Pete likewise with a HD. No race bikes. Loser buys all of KB a round.

thats betterer me thinks

[imdying]

Ruapuna is the worst track for a Harley methinks. Lots of flicking from side to side.It's local for Monsterbishi, no excuses for him to pussy out.

[Tazz]

...egos have no time for sensibilities...

Yeah that about sums it up haha Makes people get fired up over nothing, but usually that's entertaining anyway so it's not all doom and gloom :D

[jasonu]

Lol. I need my 883 back then...and to lose 10 kgs so I can get back into my leathers! Still got 'em tucked away just in case. This was Ruapuna. 308865

Fat old cunt:oi-grr:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fat old cunt:oi-grr:

Lol. Cheers! Need to do a bit of VMX to slim down a *tad*.

[madbikeboy]

This post has fuck all to do with the subject.

[caspernz]

This post has fuck all to do with the subject.

Lovely necklace...:bleh:

[Banditbandit]

I get Harleys - I wanted one real bad in the 1970s (when they were scarce as hen's teeth) ... Now I'm having too much fun on big Jap IL4s ... maybe when I'm older ...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Lovely necklace...:bleh:

mmmmm pearl.

[Swoop]

And you ride a motorcycle that's made by a company that makes pianos.
Is this why they need "tuning" occasionally?:blip:

Badoom, tish!.

[SIMPSONS MODE] A single cough is heard in a large hall, in the distance a bell clangs and a tumbleweed blows past. [/SIMPSONS MODE]

[madbikeboy]

Apparently, there is a Harley in this photo; I've been looking and I've been unable to locate.

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[caspernz]

mmmmm pearl.

Good to see someone is as twisted as me :laugh:

[madbikeboy]

Good to see someone is as twisted as me :laugh:

Twisted is a requirement for longevity on this site. Bitter helps also. Cynical is a bonus. All three is the trifecta.

[roogazza]

Lol. I need my 883 back then...and to lose 10 kgs so I can get back into my leathers! Still got 'em tucked away just in case. This was Ruapuna. 308865

Great photo, pah MM and his 55 degrees.

[Old Steve]

While I've been in tropical Queensland, my wife has taken to riding pillion with me. Now we're going to return to NZ in a couple of months we're having to think of the best bike for our touring purposes, her with a gammy hip and all. So the choices seem to come down to a Honda Goldwing, a Harley Ultra Glide or a Harley Road King with the clip on top box/pillion seat like on an Ultra Glide.

I never thought I'd be looking at a Harley, but they're two out of the three bikes that seem to best suit what we need. And it was a Road King that I hired up in Cairns that convinced the wife that riding pillion was a neat experience. For that I'll forever be thankful to the Motor Company.

It's not the bike that rides slow and who doesn't wave. It's the rider. And there are assholes on any type of bike and there are nice people on any type of bike, that's how the world works. I get more waves from HD riders here in north Qld than from all the other bikes. Maybe it's because I ride an white ex-Police Honda ST1100 that they might think they've been waved to by a cop and give a wave back in surprise :laugh: I've even had highway patrol cops wave to me, though that could have been a "slow down a bit or we we'll turn around and give you a ticket" kind of wave. Some of my most enjoyable rides have been accompanying a friend on his Harley.

All bikes are designed for a purpose, and those purposes are varied and many. Harleys are designed for cruising and might be best suited to the freeway cruising that you get in the U.S.A., but they're a bike for F*** sake and we should celebrate that there are riders out there on two wheels whether they're riding a Harley or some other brand or style of bike.

We're all together on two wheels, rejoice in that and marvel at our diversity. And if someone doesn't wave back or is riding too slow, don't get your knickers in a twist, just enjoy what you are doing and let the other guy get on with what he's doing.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Great photo, pah MM and his 55 degrees.

Lol. Hardly! But they're quite narrow...so when jacked up in the bum can be tipped over a reasonable way. 308872

[madbikeboy]

Lol. Hardly! But they're quite narrow...so when jacked up in the bum can be tipped over a reasonable way. 308872

Dude?! WTF???! Why aren't you waving?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Dude?! WTF???! Why aren't you waving?

Too busy scratching my balls!

[Banditbandit]

Apparently, there is a Harley in this photo; I've been looking and I've been unable to locate.



It's the large white lump beneath the horse-faced person wearing bugger all ..

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's the large white lump beneath the horse-faced person wearing bugger all ..

She has great abs.

[TheDemonLord]

She has great abs.

But you don't deposit your Baby-Gravy on her abs....

[madbikeboy]

Too busy scratching my balls!

You must have balls the size of grapefruit to ride that thing that way.

[madbikeboy]

Public service announcement.

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[HenryDorsetCase]

But you don't deposit your Baby-Gravy on her abs....

I totally would, given the opportunity.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You must have balls the size of grapefruit to ride that thing that way.

Nah. Just a pea for a brain.

[madbikeboy]

Nah. Just a pea for a brain.

Smart has the brains. But brave has the balls.

[madbikeboy]

I totally would, given the opportunity.

Oh. Yes. I like girls who are very lean. I don't get the fat girl thing. Maybe that's why I don't get Harleys.

[BuzzardNZ]

Oh. Yes. I like girls who are very lean. I don't get the fat girl thing. Maybe that's why I don't get Harleys.

Unstuck can explain that to you... in great detail :eek:

[MIXONE]

I get Harleys - I wanted one real bad in the 1970s (when they were scarce as hen's teeth) ... Now I'm having too much fun on big Jap IL4s ... maybe when I'm older ...

Me too.
Now if I won lotto there would be a hd in the garage along with multiple other marques.I'd still keep my current ride though.

[eelracing]

Lol. I need my 883 back then...and to lose 10 kgs so I can get back into my leathers! Still got 'em tucked away just in case. This was Ruapuna.[/ATTACH]

My money is on monsterbishi.

[Crasherfromwayback]

My money is on monsterbishi.

Pretty safe bet seeing as I don't have an 883 Twinsport bike any more!

[TheDemonLord]

Oh. Yes. I like girls who are very lean. I don't get the fat girl thing. Maybe that's why I don't get Harleys.

I likes my ladies like I likes my Bikes:

Padded enough to do some serious mileage on them, yet agile enough to have some serious fun with on the Twisties.

Sport Tourers FTW

[vifferman]

The fuck you attitude is a special HD thing.
Y'know, I think that for an awful lot of Harley riders (and other people as well), it's not a "Fuck you!" attitude so much as a desperate need to be noticed. That would certainly account for the arseholes with "drag pipes" or (as I've heard too often lately) open pipes with no baffles at all, riding along revving the bike up, as if to yell, "Look at me! LOOK AT MEEEE!!!!"
Dicks. :mad:

And for some reason Joe Public (and for that matter, possibly Joe Cop as well) seem to think it's OK for Harleys to not comply with the noise regulations everyone is subject to.
By all means, ride your overpriced posing pouch, but get out of my face. And ears.

[madbikeboy]

Y'know, I think that for an awful lot of Harley riders (and other people as well), it's not a "Fuck you!" attitude so much as a desperate need to be noticed. That would certainly account for the arseholes with "drag pipes" or (as I've heard too often lately) open pipes with no baffles at all, riding along revving the bike up, as if to yell, "Look at me! LOOK AT MEEEE!!!!"
Dicks. :mad:

And for some reason Joe Public (and for that matter, possibly Joe Cop as well) seem to think it's OK for Harleys to not comply with the noise regulations everyone is subject to.
By all means, ride your overpriced posing pouch, but get out of my face. And ears.

Maybe the cops are just scared they'll have to listen to an hour of whining from the mid-life crisis accountant try hard that's riding the Harley?

[swarfie]

Y'know, I think that for an awful lot of Harley riders (and other people as well), it's not a "Fuck you!" attitude so much as a desperate need to be noticed. That would certainly account for the arseholes with "drag pipes" or (as I've heard too often lately) open pipes with no baffles at all, riding along revving the bike up, as if to yell, "Look at me! LOOK AT MEEEE!!!!"
Dicks. :mad:

And for some reason Joe Public (and for that matter, possibly Joe Cop as well) seem to think it's OK for Harleys to not comply with the noise regulations everyone is subject to.
By all means, ride your overpriced posing pouch, but get out of my face. And ears.

+1. We've got friends from Oz staying with us at the mo and we went for a pleasant ride on back roads last evening. Ended up at the Tuakau Hotel for a meal (the place has recently been tastefully renovated and well recommended) and there was the above LOOK AT MEEEE!!!! plonker riding up and down on his Harley Ferguson Chop with straight slash cut pipes making a complete :tugger: of himself. Him...LOOK AT MEEEE...us...why don't ya piss off ya douchbag.

[Banditbandit]

Public service announcement.



That's NOT a harley in the photo ..

[caspernz]

That's NOT a harley in the photo ..

C'mon now focus! She's indoors, in her lingerie and on her knees...he's just getting around to what he wanted to talk about, his sexual fantasies :bleh:

[madbikeboy]

C'mon now focus! She's indoors, in her lingerie and on her knees...he's just getting around to what he wanted to talk about, his sexual fantasies :bleh:

She's not tied to the kitchen, so it's unlikely it's one of my fantasies. :bleh:

[caspernz]

She's not tied to the kitchen, so it's unlikely it's one of my fantasies. :bleh:

The bonds may well be mental instead of physical, there's a movie coming out about that shortly :devil2:

[madbikeboy]

I'd rather an old muscle car than a new faster, better handling, lighter car.

Change one word, from car, to bike.... And my opinion flips, give me the faster one.



Yeah, I'd agree with that. I collect old muscle cars, people assume they're fast, but really, they're not (unless you spend a lot of time and money, and even then, they're still not that fast). But the experience of driving them is good. I've tried using my 67 Mustang as a daily driver, but I always default back to a boring and vanilla car (usually a wagon) because it's way less noticed (and I like being invisible). The running costs of a muscle car are academic, they appreciate more than the gas you're pouring into it.

Bikes on the other, the whole reason for being is for performance. So, unless it makes the bike go faster, it doesn't belong on the bike.

I read a post on this thread a moment ago that cars can out corner a bike - in the rain perhaps. In reality though, point to point, or especially if there's traffic, the bike is faster. On a race track - it depends on the match, the track, the driver/rider, and the weather.

[madbikeboy]

The bonds may well be mental instead of physical, there's a movie coming out about that shortly :devil2:

Most of the women I've dated are a bit mental. LOL. It's supposed to be very tame, it's not like kink.com or extreme tube.

[caspernz]

Most of the women I've dated are a bit mental. LOL. It's supposed to be very tame, it's not like kink.com or extreme tube.

No argument with most women being a bit mental. And yeah I even found the books tame (long haul flights to Europe and back) so if the movie is watered down...:oi-grr:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, I'd agree with that. I collect old muscle cars, people assume they're fast, but really, they're not (unless you spend a lot of time and money, and even then, they're still not that fast). .

I Bee (see what I did there?) wanting one of these. REAL bad.

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[caspernz]

I Bee (see what I did there?) wanting one of these. REAL bad.

You must have a Super sized service elevator at your apartment block then Pete.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You must have a Super sized service elevator at your apartment block then Pete.

I'd live in the car mate.

[madbikeboy]

I Bee (see what I did there?) wanting one of these. REAL bad.

308899

I can sell you a perfectly nice 70 'Cuda (340/727, numbers matching). The price of everything Mopar went crazy out of control around 2009 when collectors moved from being normal people to "investors" (which is another name for rich fucktards).

[madbikeboy]

No argument with most women being a bit mental. And yeah I even found the books tame (long haul flights to Europe and back) so if the movie is watered down...:oi-grr:

I've been told I make women mental, like my personal instability is contagious. So long as I don't make them pregnant.

There is a definite change in dating since the books became widely known. Prior, if you tied up a chick on a one night stand, there would be a police report. Post the books becoming mainstream, single women carry accessories with them in their huge purses. The same accessories carried by a guy would be called a rape kit. Funny enough, in Australia, you look for the women who carry the bulky handbags into bars, it's like the signal. Plus, women are more into rougher, toys, etc. Thanks to the author of the book.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I can sell you a perfectly nice 70 'Cuda (340/727, numbers matching). The price of everything Mopar went crazy out of control around 2009 when collectors moved from being normal people to "investors" (which is another name for rich fucktards).

Whilst I love most things Mopar...Cuda's ain't one of them for whatever reason. And I have no money.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I would like a Valiant VG two door coupe. Or a 57 Bel Air 210 wagon.

there was a Valiant 2dr in Welly that looked like your Dad's one, vanilla paint (seriously - off white) with a vinyl roof, steel wheels with hubcaps (widened on the inside and tubbed). It looked basically stock. It had a 440 in it :) I was putting $15 worth of gas in my bike and he was putting $100+ of gas into his car..... worth it. totally.

[madbikeboy]

I would like a Valiant VG two door coupe. Or a 57 Bel Air 210 wagon.

there was a Valiant 2dr in Welly that looked like your Dad's one, vanilla paint (seriously - off white) with a vinyl roof, steel wheels with hubcaps (widened on the inside and tubbed). It looked basically stock. It had a 440 in it :) I was putting $15 worth of gas in my bike and he was putting $100+ of gas into his car..... worth it. totally.

The VG is an awesome car. I had a VG Pacer in my youth, when they weren't worth anything. It burned to the ground on the harbour bridge. The 440 is a fucking awesome motor.

57 2 door wagon is a neat ride - the 210 trim is actually quite rare now, and Bel Airs (Nomads) are worth moonbeams. I like the 57 Pontiac Safari two door wagon - it's rarer (18,000 versus 1,300 for the 55-57 years), and it's more interesting with all the rocket trim on it; hence collecting.

[madbikeboy]

Whilst I love most things Mopar...Cuda's ain't one of them for whatever reason. And I have no money.

They're a neat car - the 340 AAR 'Cuda was one of the first "handling" cars that Mopar did, and they're a sweetheart of a motor with all sorts of nice forged bits internally. Coronets are stupendously expensive now - and Chargers are basically unobtainium. Cudas and Challengers are mid sized, and they go really well (unless you buy a 318 powered anything, those need a bullet (or a Keith Black Hemi)).

[Robbo]

Lol. I need my 883 back then...and to lose 10 kgs so I can get back into my leathers! Still got 'em tucked away just in case. This was Ruapuna. 308865

Have your leathers shrunk too Pete? Same with mine. You just can't rely on the quality these days. LOL :whistle:

[caspernz]

I've been told I make women mental, like my personal instability is contagious. So long as I don't make them pregnant.

There is a definite change in dating since the books became widely known. Prior, if you tied up a chick on a one night stand, there would be a police report. Post the books becoming mainstream, single women carry accessories with them in their huge purses. The same accessories carried by a guy would be called a rape kit. Funny enough, in Australia, you look for the women who carry the bulky handbags into bars, it's like the signal. Plus, women are more into rougher, toys, etc. Thanks to the author of the book.

The big purse thing is tricky though, because now how do you tell the working girl from the open minded girl? Either way you'd get to play I suppose, and we all pay one way or another :blink:

[HenryDorsetCase]

57 2 door wagon is a neat ride - the 210 trim is actually quite rare now, and Bel Airs (Nomads) are worth moonbeams. I like the 57 Pontiac Safari two door wagon - it's rarer (18,000 versus 1,300 for the 55-57 years), and it's more interesting with all the rocket trim on it; hence collecting.

theres one done on tardme as the 150 (base) trim NASCAR pace car which I like. Nice Pontiac Catalina on there too.

I also really like the 57 two door tradesman wagon (I forget the model name) but there is a rodded one around and it is hell cool. I saw one from the States that had had windows put in the side and was done up as a hearse. It was cool.

[Crasherfromwayback]

They're a neat car - the 340 AAR 'Cuda was one of the first "handling" cars that Mopar did, and they're a sweetheart of a motor with all sorts of nice forged bits internally. Coronets are stupendously expensive now - and Chargers are basically unobtainium. Cudas and Challengers are mid sized, and they go really well (unless you buy a 318 powered anything, those need a bullet (or a Keith Black Hemi)).

I'll take it! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Coronet-R-T-National-Award-Winning-Restored-1-of-1-Coronet-R-T-426-Dual-Quad-HEMI-V8-/221682523574?forcerrptr=true&hash=item339d4eddb6&item=221682523574&pt=US_Cars_Trucks


Have your leathers shrunk too Pete? Same with mine. You just can't rely on the quality these days. LOL :whistle:

Yeah. Fucking things.

[scumdog]

Have your leathers shrunk too Pete? Same with mine. You just can't rely on the quality these days. LOL :whistle:

It's keeping them in cupboards that does it, everybody knows lack of daylight shrinks leather...:msn-wink:

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's keeping them in cupboards that does it, everybody knows lack of daylight shrinks leather...:msn-wink:

I've got a bunch of people down a well so I can get nice supple leather for my next set. It puts the lotion on its skin............

[ellipsis]

Bikes on the other, the whole reason for being is for performance. So, unless it makes the bike go faster, it doesn't belong on the bike.




...'sez who...

[madbikeboy]

theres one done on tardme as the 150 (base) trim NASCAR pace car which I like. Nice Pontiac Catalina on there too.

I also really like the 57 two door tradesman wagon (I forget the model name) but there is a rodded one around and it is hell cool. I saw one from the States that had had windows put in the side and was done up as a hearse. It was cool.

I think they're known as sedan delivery wagons. They look a little different, the Nomad (like the Safari) has a sloped B pillar - the delivery has an upright one (and no windows and no back seat. They're a neat car to drive - they get a weird scuttle shake over bumps because the front end isn't very rigid, but they're actually very forgiving to drive. I've been lusting after an Art Morrison chassis (Tri 5 with Corvette suspension and brakes). A mate in LA has one under a 55 (with an LS7), it goes pretty well, and it goes round corners surprisingly well.

I had a Pontiac Laurentian (283, ex wedding car) when I was younger. Catalina (and Tempest) are far prettier.

[madbikeboy]

I'll take it! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Coronet-R-T-National-Award-Winning-Restored-1-of-1-Coronet-R-T-426-Dual-Quad-HEMI-V8-/221682523574?forcerrptr=true&hash=item339d4eddb6&item=221682523574&pt=US_Cars_Trucks



$100k for a genuine Hemi car isn't unreasonable.

[madbikeboy]

...'sez who...

….Me. (Well, I wrote it). LOL.

[Crasherfromwayback]

$100k for a genuine Hemi car isn't unreasonable.

I know mate. And WHEN I win lotto I'll fucking fly over there and buy such a car! Meantime...I'll site here and pull my willy over such beasts.

[madbikeboy]

I'll take it! .

http://classiccarliquidators.com/classic-cars/1969/dodge/coronet-rt/WS23L9G154539

[madbikeboy]

I know mate. And WHEN I win lotto I'll fucking fly over there and buy such a car! Meantime...I'll site here and pull my willy over such beasts.

If you're willing to buy a lesser car, you got a lot of car for your money. 426 is a pain in the ass on the street. 440 is a better street engine. 1/5th the price. If you buy unrestored, you can get a decent car for $20k NZ landed. I see cars that I've passed up in the states, landed here and sold by people for 200% mark ups. Mustangs and second gen Camaros are dirt cheap; same car here is expensive. Chevelles are another one - $10k USD buys a very good Chevelle.

[madbikeboy]

The big purse thing is tricky though, because now how do you tell the working girl from the open minded girl? Either way you'd get to play I suppose, and we all pay one way or another :blink:

The working girls are always sober, they have better manners, and they let you know fairly quickly.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The working girls are always sober, they have better manners, and they let you know fairly quickly.

also, according to a client, the best part is that you pay them, they smile and give you a kiss, and leave. And they dont take your house with them.....

[Crasherfromwayback]

If you're willing to buy a lesser car, you got a lot of car for your money. 426 is a pain in the ass on the street. 440 is a better street engine. 1/5th the price. If you buy unrestored, you can get a decent car for $20k NZ landed. .

Say what? Where do I sign? And I love 1970 split bumper Camaros

[Tazz]

Say what? Where do I sign? And I love 1970 split bumper Camaros

That's the year they went to that fugly (by comparison) duck nose innit? Wouldn't throw it out of the garage but 69< is the hot cousin.

[jasonu]

Say what? Where do I sign? And I love 1970 split bumper Camaros

Send me $20k and I'll make sure you receive any one of these gems....:yes::yes::yes:

http://bend.craigslist.org/cto/4838611634.html
http://bend.craigslist.org/cto/4809433509.html
http://bend.craigslist.org/cto/4826033869.html
http://bend.craigslist.org/cto/4886373041.html

[Crasherfromwayback]

Send me $20k and I'll make sure you receive any one of these gems....:yes::yes::yes:

http://bend.craigslist.org/cto/4838611634.html
http://bend.craigslist.org/cto/4809433509.html
http://bend.craigslist.org/cto/4826033869.html
http://bend.craigslist.org/cto/4886373041.html

They're all pig ugly!

[Banditbandit]

They're all pig ugly!

They've all got too many wheels for me to feel excited about them ...

[madbikeboy]

also, according to a client, the best part is that you pay them, they smile and give you a kiss, and leave. And they dont take your house with them.....

They're also cleaner, less fucked up, cheaper than a date… As for the house thing, that happened to me once, and it'll never happen again.

[madbikeboy]

Say what? Where do I sign? And I love 1970 split bumper Camaros

The second generation Camaro is actually a pretty neat car - you can run basically any motor you want (lots of LS swap kits available), they're really cheap (you can buy good runners for $5-9k USD), and they're easy to work on. The first Gen Camaros (and Firebirds for that matter) are too expensive. The past year, there's been a tonne of really good second Gen Camaro's on the show circuit and at SEMA.

However if you leave it stock, you'll need to buy a stupid cowboy hat and a white singlet (they're called wife beaters), you'll need to be drunk all the time, and your meth lab needs to be in your trailer.

[HenryDorsetCase]

However if you leave it stock, you'll need to buy a stupid cowboy hat and a white singlet (they're called wife beaters), you'll need to be drunk all the time, and your meth lab needs to be in your trailer.

where do I sign?

[madbikeboy]

where do I sign?

Meth is bad, mmkay.

308939

[Crasherfromwayback]

The second generation Camaro is actually a pretty neat car - you can run basically any motor you want (lots of LS swap kits available), they're really cheap (you can buy good runners for $5-9k USD), and they're easy to work on. The first Gen Camaros (and Firebirds for that matter) are too expensive. The past year, there's been a tonne of really good second Gen Camaro's on the show circuit and at SEMA.

However if you leave it stock, you'll need to buy a stupid cowboy hat and a white singlet (they're called wife beaters), you'll need to be drunk all the time, and your meth lab needs to be in your trailer.

Like this Hombre http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-RS-1970-camaro-split-bumper-rs-style-oklahoma-car-very-nice-/261765600145?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3cf2721391&item=261765600145&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

[jasonu]

They're all pig ugly!

Most Camaros are.

[madbikeboy]

Like this Hombre http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-RS-1970-camaro-split-bumper-rs-style-oklahoma-car-very-nice-/261765600145?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3cf2721391&item=261765600145&pt=US_Cars_Trucks

That's at the high end of the price range. I missed on out a 70 Split, with a 502 crate for $9,500 at Pomona, and it was similar in condition (but blue) - I went back to the truck to grab the cash, and in that 15 minutes, someone else handed him the cash. Well pissed off.

[Crasherfromwayback]

That's at the high end of the price range. I missed on out a 70 Split, with a 502 crate for $9,500 at Pomona, and it was similar in condition (but blue) - I went back to the truck to grab the cash, and in that 15 minutes, someone else handed him the cash. Well pissed off.

Stink buzz!

[scumdog]

That's at the high end of the price range. I missed on out a 70 Split, with a 502 crate for $9,500 at Pomona, and it was similar in condition (but blue) - I went back to the truck to grab the cash, and in that 15 minutes, someone else handed him the cash. Well pissed off.

Hell! What a bargain that would have been 'cos normally Pomona prices are right up there!

[unstuck]

Went for a quick ride on my mates 79 sporty today, feels like my hands are still vibrating, kinda like I have been using a chainsaw for 8 hours.:crazy:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Went for a quick ride on my mates 79 sporty today, feels like my hands are still vibrating, kinda like I have been using a chainsaw for 8 hours.:crazy:

Lol. Yep. You need 04 - on rubber mounted ones mate.

[scumdog]

Went for a quick ride on my mates 79 sporty today, feels like my hands are still vibrating, kinda like I have been using a chainsaw for 8 hours.:crazy:


A '79?

I had a '81, never had that problem, did some longish trips on it - ya can't have ridden it fast enough to get out of the vibe range!

Them iron-heads are getting thin on the ground and sought-after.:cool:

[scumdog]

Lol. Yep. You need 04 - on rubber mounted ones mate.

Nah, takes the 'tightness' out of them.;)

[ellipsis]

...vibes, man....

[unstuck]

A '79?

I had a '81, never had that problem, did some longish trips on it - ya can't have ridden it fast enough to get out of the vibe range!

Them iron-heads are getting thin on the ground and sought-after.:cool:

Too many of your mates around today, so had to keep things cool.:innocent: Me being licensed and all.:bleh:

[Flip]

Lol. I need my 883 back then...and to lose 10 kgs so I can get back into my leathers! Still got 'em tucked away just in case. This was Ruapuna. 308865

Same track, completely different bike.

[Flip]

Yeah, I'd agree with that. I collect old muscle cars, people assume they're fast, but really, they're not (unless you spend a lot of time and money, and even then, they're still not that fast). But the experience of driving them is good. I've tried using my 67 Mustang as a daily driver, but I always default back to a boring and vanilla car (usually a wagon) because it's way less noticed (and I like being invisible). The running costs of a muscle car are academic, they appreciate more than the gas you're pouring into it.

Bikes on the other, the whole reason for being is for performance. So, unless it makes the bike go faster, it doesn't belong on the bike.

I read a post on this thread a moment ago that cars can out corner a bike - in the rain perhaps. In reality though, point to point, or especially if there's traffic, the bike is faster. On a race track - it depends on the match, the track, the driver/rider, and the weather.

This is a turn around because I collect small english sports cars. I just don't get americian cars. Too big, heavy and large. Americian car drivers are a special breed, I got caught between a couple of tanks recently and they were not happy when I asked if the bigger the car the smaller the penis? (I was in a MG Midget).

I did a VCC run with a couple of those new Ford shelby cobras. They tried to keep up with me in the Lotus on a windy mountain road and by the end of the run were a bit pissed off.

I did a track day with a stingray in the MG and he just had a few MPH on me at the end of the straight, and that was the only place. I did another track day with a AC Cobra with 550 hp and I never saw him after the first lap I was in the Lotus. The Cobra driver too the pip and split.

I have however been thinking about buying my bros Mk2 Thunderbird. My uncle drove one in the Spy loved me movie and this is almost exactly the same car.

[haydes55]

I just don't get americian cars. Too big, heavy and large. Americian car drivers are a special breed


Change the word "cars" to "motorbikes".

[Flip]

Change the word "cars" to "motorbikes".

At least we are duplicitous in our vehicle tastes.

[awayatc]

After having ridden the old harley for a few years, everthing else feels like a bmx by comparison....
And yes lots of bikes will outperform , outcorner and out brake a Harley....

[HenryDorsetCase]

This is a turn around because I collect small english sports cars. I just don't get americian cars. Too big, heavy and large. Americian car drivers are a special breed, I got caught between a couple of tanks recently and they were not happy when I asked if the bigger the car the smaller the penis? (I was in a MG Midget).

I did a VCC run with a couple of those new Ford shelby cobras. They tried to keep up with me in the Lotus on a windy mountain road and by the end of the run were a bit pissed off.

I did a track day with a stingray in the MG and he just had a few MPH on me at the end of the straight, and that was the only place. I did another track day with a AC Cobra with 550 hp and I never saw him after the first lap I was in the Lotus. The Cobra driver too the pip and split.

I have however been thinking about buying my bros Mk2 Thunderbird. My uncle drove one in the Spy loved me movie and this is almost exactly the same car.

Tell me more about your Lotus. I love them. Colin Chapman was the John Britten of his day.

[Flip]

I was thinking about fitting a 8 port head, 5 speed box and stronger dif to the midget. This included cutting the wheel arches, new suspension, better stronger brakes and probably a roots blower. But the Midget is a tidy original car and I decided that something a little better could be purchased new.

[GrayWolf]

Well you can't mean me and CB 'cos we look nothing like the above - does that mean we're not real Harley riders??:confused:

No Pete, we know that's not true, you are both 'real' HD riders, it's just we KNOW that she wears the jeans, and you wear the arseless chaps :scratch::cool:

[GrayWolf]

It appears they don't like it that there are more riders out there all the time on scooters and Harleys than go fast sports bikes. That's how we get threads like this. Something about protesting too much...

Your half right. I'm one of the ones who IS on his bike 365, and yup plenty of scooters on the road. But, sorry, most HD's I see are at weekends and in the summer. That isnt being 'anti' for the sake of it either. I've ridden HD's since the 70's as a lot of guys I knew owned them, iron head AMF sporties, pan's, shovel's, the Evo when it first came out in the 1980's. Only HD 'types' I haven't ridden are the twin cam and Vrod. I'd have owned an XR1200X if I hadnt brought my current bike, and that's coming from someone who would rather, and has, owned Guzzi's over HD's.
There are indeed some who can ride the arse off the big blocks, but again few and far. Oh and I can surprise the fark out of a poor rider on a sprotty on my 'tractor' too :innocent:

[Crasherfromwayback]

No Pete, we know that's not true, you are both 'real' HD riders, it's just we KNOW that she wears the jeans, and you wear the arseless chaps :scratch::cool:

Lol. He ain't Pete!

[scumdog]

No Pete, we know that's not true, you are both 'real' HD riders, it's just we KNOW that she wears the jeans, and you wear the arseless chaps :scratch::cool:

'Pete'?

Who is this 'Pete' you speak of??:confused:

[Swivel]

[QUOTE=LATE RIDER;1130829245]

Funny coming from somebody with a cheap japanese harley wanna be (but can't afford it ) rip off......learners bike.:bash:



Number of times my Harley has broken down in 6 years.....?. Zero.

Lol, you mean you have never ridden your bike in 6 years, harley wannabe lol, the EN500 is a inline twin you silly boy, Im offended that you accuse me as a wannabe harley owner lol, I would not have if you said Triumph wannabe, I dont want any association with dead beat bikes thanks, also I can afford a hardley I mean harley when I get my full licence but why would I want a pile of loud limp lame over priced junk lol, when I can own a real bike that's reliable better performance cheaper parts, and less attention seeking.

[Berries]

Good night out was it?

[Laava]

[QUOTE=awayatc;1130829256]

Lol, you mean you have never ridden your bike in 6 years, harley wannabe lol, the EN500 is a inline twin you silly boy, Im offended that you accuse me as a wannabe harley owner lol, I would not have if you said Triumph wannabe, I dont want any association with dead beat bikes thanks, also I can afford a hardley I mean harley when I get my full licence but why would I want a pile of loud limp lame over priced junk lol, when I can own a real bike that's reliable better performance cheaper parts, and less attention seeking.

Haha, you should really have just let it go rather than dredge it all back up again!

[rocketman1]

:msn-wink:People like to poke fun at other bike brands, beginning generally in light humour, but some people seem to take this jest as gospel and it festers in small minds to become something bigger than itself. In a similar fashion we all know that from the problems in the middle east, dont we.
Come who can blame a Harley for the way its ridden. Come on get a life, and stop stirring. There are bigger problems in life to worry about I can assure you. They are riding a motorbike, and thats what its all about.

[Virago]

Lol, you mean you have never ridden your bike in 6 years, harley wannabe lol, the EN500 is a inline twin you silly boy, Im offended that you accuse me as a wannabe harley owner lol, I would not have if you said Triumph wannabe, I dont want any association with dead beat bikes thanks, also I can afford a hardley I mean harley when I get my full licence but why would I want a pile of loud limp lame over priced junk lol, when I can own a real bike that's reliable better performance cheaper parts, and less attention seeking.

Wow, that's an awfully long sentence from someone with an awfully short penis.

Ridden many Harleys have you?

PS - read your own signature...

:rolleyes:

[pete-blen]

I have nothing against Harleys... If yer want one go for it...
I will say they have prob the best finish , attention to detail
of any motor cycle brand...
I will never own one... alway think most Harley owners are
buying a image more than a motor bike..

[scumdog]

I have nothing against Harleys... If yer want one go for it...
I will say they have prob the best finish , attention to detail
of any motor cycle brand...
I will never own one... alway think most Harley owners are
buying a image more than a motor bike..

So, what IS my image??:confused:

[JimO]

So, what IS my image??:confused:
..................310900

[ellipsis]

So, what IS my image??:confused:

...^...
... ...

[awa355]

http://media.motortopia.com/files/32660/vehicle/4f3fbb552b8ba/tn_423x423_COP_PULLS_OVER_LITTLE_KID_ON_HARELY.jpg

[Virago]

http://media.motortopia.com/files/32660/vehicle/4f3fbb552b8ba/tn_423x423_COP_PULLS_OVER_LITTLE_KID_ON_HARELY.jpg

Firstly, that's you're, not your. Second, it's a Yamaha Virago.

You're welcome. :bleh:

[mossy1200]

I might buy a hardly one day if they make one for tall people that doesn't need multiple alterations to fit on.
They seem to be designed for short fat people.

[Berries]

Second, it's a Yamaha Virago.
I think he meant the bike without stabilisers.

[Swivel]

Wow, that's an awfully long sentence from someone with an awfully short penis.

Ridden many Harleys have you?

PS - read your own signature...

:rolleyes:

Hahaha stop it.

[Swivel]

[QUOTE=LATE RIDER;1130854467]

Haha, you should really have just let it go rather than dredge it all back up again!

yeah yeah ok right on.

[awayatc]

[QUOTE=awayatc;1130829256]

Lol, you mean you have never ridden your bike in 6 years, harley wannabe lol, the EN500 is a inline twin you silly boy, Im offended that you accuse me as a wannabe harley owner lol, I would not have if you said Triumph wannabe, I dont want any association with dead beat bikes thanks, also I can afford a hardley I mean harley when I get my full licence but why would I want a pile of loud limp lame over priced junk lol, when I can own a real bike that's reliable better performance cheaper parts, and less attention seeking.

Amazing how uninformed yet opinionated some people can become after a few weeks of limited riding experience.
I hope for you that both you and your "bike" live long enough to get your full licence....
not that I will miss you if you don't.

next time be polite when taking part in adult conversations....
on a forum everybody is allowed to have an opinion, if you don't agree you can respond if you feel thus inclined.
No need to red rep,
not even if you are a tosser...

[awa355]

Firstly, that's you're, not your. Second, it's a Yamaha Virago.

You're welcome. :bleh:

You got me there,:rolleyes: The text was already on the pic. I should've looked a bit harder before cutting and pasteing.

[Flip]

I might buy a hardly one day if they make one for tall people that doesn't need multiple alterations to fit on.
They seem to be designed for short fat people.

I'm over 6 foot and mine fits just fine. Why do you think they are made for shorties?

310904

[scumdog]

I might buy a hardly one day if they make one for tall people that doesn't need multiple alterations to fit on.
They seem to be designed for short fat people.

You seven feet tall or something.....:shifty:

[puddytat]

Why do you think they are made for shorties?

310904

Maybe...just maybe, I reckon they're made as they are because its not so much getting your leg over, its getting the Gut over too.....

[mossy1200]

You seven feet tall or something.....:shifty:

6.5
Went for a ride on demo with wifey on back. Knees were above tank height. Body was leaning back so far wife could barely sit on the back.
Plus it scraped the muffler on the very first corner.
WMC offered a solution though.

New seat positioned further back, new bars and highway pegs 3 inches forward plus new pipes plus upgraded suspension.
Made the good value 34k bike even more valuable.

Maybe next time ill try a Roadking or Ultraglide.

[scumdog]

6.5
Went for a ride on demo with wifey on back. Knees were above tank height. Body was leaning back so far wife could barely sit on the back.
Plus it scraped the muffler on the very first corner.




Sheesh what were you on - a Sportster Iron or something?:gob:

[mossy1200]

Sheesh what were you on - a Sportster Iron or something?:gob:

Was a softail custom. Im not up with the codes but fxstc is possibly the one I was on. Think it would have been 2007. Never got on another Harley since. Plus I was getting offered a laughable low trade in value at the time. Ended up buying a bmwr1200s instead.

[Flip]

I'm hankering after a GS1200 myself. Not that I would quit the HD. The only thing I really miss on the HD is the other 50% of the power to weight ratio I lost going to a Harley from the T1200.

What did I gain? A hell of a lot of comfort, not fast comfort as I really don't want to go much faster than 120kph normally on any bike these days. Also the HD is just brillant and I mean stuningly brillant in strong cross winds.

[mossy1200]

I'm hankering after a GS1200 myself. Not that I would quit the HD. The only thing I really miss on the HD is the other 50% of the power to weight ratio I lost going to a Harley from the T1200.

What did I gain? A hell of a lot of comfort, not fast comfort as I really don't want to go much faster than 120kph normally on any bike these days. Also the HD is just brillant and I mean stuningly brillant in strong cross winds.

Only reason I am even thinking Harley again is I have the café racer for one up fun and the ninja travelling at 1/3 max speed seems overkill.
Road block is serious lack of trade in due to Harley dealerships tending to think you will sacrifice anything to buy one and the fact home ownership creates light wallet syndrome now. Find 15k to Harley up or 15k for new roof and carpet in master bedroom plus concrete for the back steps and coloured stones for the clothes line area.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Was a softail custom. Im not up with the codes but fxstc is possibly the one I was on. .

Try a Dyna mate. Bigger frame than the Softail. Quite a bit more leg room.

[mossy1200]

Try a Dyna mate. Bigger frame than the Softail. Quite a bit more leg room.

My budget has diminished now so its not going to happen before WMC drops dealership. After my last attempt I would need sell the ninja prior to looking also. I think the Harley is going to be a fair way off for me. Time to get me would have been pre race and house days.

[Gremlin]

Road block is serious lack of trade in due to Harley dealerships tending to think you will sacrifice anything to buy one...
Or they just don't want your dirty jappa :lol:

[Flip]

Only reason I am even thinking Harley again is I have the café racer for one up fun and the ninja travelling at 1/3 max speed seems overkill.
Road block is serious lack of trade in due to Harley dealerships tending to think you will sacrifice anything to buy one and the fact home ownership creates light wallet syndrome now. Find 15k to Harley up or 15k for new roof and carpet in master bedroom plus concrete for the back steps and coloured stones for the clothes line area.

I do remember what it was like after I brought my first house, just hang on it gets easier very quickly.

I looked at a Rocket 3 and a road king, the HD dealer did a much better deal and took my T1200 as a fair trade in. Glad I went for the HD as it has done 100k and has been brillantly reilyable. That and I never forgave Triumph NZ for ripping me off for parts that never arived.

[mossy1200]

Or they just don't want your money you dirty ja%#a :lol:

But they sell Suzuki.

[yevjenko]

I have nothing against Harleys... If yer want one go for it...
I will say they have prob the best finish , attention to detail
of any motor cycle brand...
I will never own one... alway think most Harley owners are
buying a image more than a motor bike..
You obviously haven't seen one in the last couple of years. Mate of mine bought a brand new 48 speedster a couple of years ago (had to buy it up country as he couldn't get anyone from Wellington scooters to serve him!). Within months of him having it in Wellie, the spokes on the wheels started to rust. Apparently quite common. In the US the dealers will change the wheels if this happens, but not here...

[ellipsis]

...I have never ever seen a blemish of rust or fading or any bodily malfunctions emanating from any of the Japanese motorcycles I have owned over the last 43 years...I don't think I have ever seen a Japanese engined motorcycle engine break and whatsmore they are far more mundane and less likely to be drooled over or stolen...so suck that you fucken useless HD owners...cunts...fat people...slags...posers...penile deficient people...latte louts...

[Flip]

...I have never ever seen a blemish of rust or fading or any bodily malfunctions emanating from any of the Japanese motorcycles I have owned over the last 43 years...I don't think I have ever seen a Japanese engined motorcycle engine break and whatsmore they are far more mundane and less likely to be drooled over or stolen...so suck that you fucken useless HD owners...cunts...fat people...slags...posers...penile deficient people...latte louts...

What cralled up your ass and died?

[ruaphu]

Hmmmmmmm love to have a decent touring HD, of the Rushmore variety, just can't afford the 35-43 G for one. Went got me self a massive Jappa cruiser a couple years back, love it, reliable, looks good, sounds good, easy to service, parts are cheap, accessories are plentiful.................Hmmmmmm but it still ain't no HD tourer.




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[ellipsis]

What cralled up your ass and died?


...I really would like a 'real' sarcasm font...fuck Akzle's sans fuckin whatever shit...surely it wouldn't be that fucking hard...surely to goodness...it's just another variation on a fucking well recognized system of symbols that all can recognize...most anyway, maybe not all on here...notice my yankee friendly spelling... why can't some cunt on X Factor come up with a really simple little thing like a fucking sarcasm font...if I wasn't so fucking busy getting angry about the lack of one I'd do it my fucking self...it's only fucking Tuesday, fuck off...

[Tazz]

...I have never ever seen a blemish of rust or fading or any bodily malfunctions emanating from any of the Japanese motorcycles I have owned over the last 43 years...I don't think I have ever seen a Japanese engined motorcycle engine break and whatsmore they are far more mundane and less likely to be drooled over or stolen...so suck that you fucken useless HD owners...cunts...fat people...slags...posers...penile deficient people...latte louts...


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/df/c3/fd/dfc3fd463453b5b63485f5bc57b2ba3c.jpg

[Flip]

...I really would like a 'real' sarcasm font...fuck Akzle's sans fuckin whatever shit...surely it wouldn't be that fucking hard...surely to goodness...it's just another variation on a fucking well recognized system of symbols that all can recognize...most anyway, maybe not all on here...notice my yankee friendly spelling... why can't some cunt on X Factor come up with a really simple little thing like a fucking sarcasm font...if I wasn't so fucking busy getting angry about the lack of one I'd do it my fucking self...it's only fucking Tuesday, fuck off...

Oh, I see your point.

No, really I do.

Ok, wtf are you on? What ever it is is fucking your mind!

[madbikeboy]

This is a turn around because I collect small english sports cars. I just don't get americian cars. Too big, heavy and large. Americian car drivers are a special breed, I got caught between a couple of tanks recently and they were not happy when I asked if the bigger the car the smaller the penis? (I was in a MG Midget).

I did a VCC run with a couple of those new Ford shelby cobras. They tried to keep up with me in the Lotus on a windy mountain road and by the end of the run were a bit pissed off.

I did a track day with a stingray in the MG and he just had a few MPH on me at the end of the straight, and that was the only place. I did another track day with a AC Cobra with 550 hp and I never saw him after the first lap I was in the Lotus. The Cobra driver too the pip and split.

I have however been thinking about buying my bros Mk2 Thunderbird. My uncle drove one in the Spy loved me movie and this is almost exactly the same car.

99% of the speed of a motorcycle is the lose nut on top. Same with the muscle car thing. I've driven a lot of pro-touring Camaros, mustangs, even pick ups, that are surprisingly quick. So, using a good fraser as a benchmark, I've driven a couple of Cobra's (Factory Five replicas with LS7's/427's) that would spank a good 2 litre fraser - the difference is that the Cobra is much trickier to drive fast.

Most pro-touring Camaros / Mustangs would be slower than a Fraser on a tight course. The real difference is in the development. For example, I've got a 67 Mustang with at least $20k in suspension mods, big Wilwoods all round, and a worked (good) Shelby HiPo. Despite the money in it, it's still a 1960's Ford Falcon parts share car underneath. Is it fast? Well, it's quick, but not fast. It'll do 12 second quarters, and it'll turn and stop (sorta). A stock WRX would kill it. It's more fun to drive than the WRX, and there's more drama (and tyre smoke as well). Would it beat a Fraser? Not in a million years.

So, take a second Gen Camaro, or a 70 'Cuda. If you take time and money, (lots of money), and you're willing to drive bravely, then yes, you can beat a Fraser if you're a reasonably ballsy driver. It's a physics lesson, take a 2800 pound car, stuff 1200 horsepower worth of late model LS or Hemi turbo goodness, and stick enough rubber under it, and it's fast. I've seen Caterham's raced against said set up in the US, so I'm not basing it on opinion, but results.

But, it's kind of missing the point a little. Take a 1960 Impala (or the 58 Impala like I took to the beach hop this year) - with a two speed power glide, the cars just cruise smoothly and effortlessly. The carry lots of weight, and they have tiny brakes. They're also expensive and most of the parts are completely unobtainium. They made a million Mustangs, you can order any part you want. Try ordering parts for a 59 Imperial, or a 57 Pontiac Safari - I've been waiting for years for a couple of trim pieces to come up for sale. With that in mind, you don't risk the cars by racing. Bluntly, I prefer driving the Mustang in 90% of situations, it's the intellectual equivalency of banging rocks together for fun, but that all goes out the window when you can create rubber smoke in any gear. On a hot summers day, I'd prefer the 60 Impala Bel Air convertible, no question. Keep in mind, I'm the guy who thinks 800 k's out of a rear tyre on a thou is perfectly acceptable and normal.

As for racing performance of x versus y - same as bikes, the losest nut wins.

Okay, the TBird. Really great car. You can buy any part you want for them. They have great resale. They're not cheap to run (depending on the motor you get), but they're a great cruising car. You get in, start driving, and spend the day smiling at all the attention. They're easy to work on. You've got to be mindful of rust, make sure you check them out very carefully. I would never buy a US restored car unless I saw the restoration and the car in bare metal, and they ran out of bondo that year in the states. Chuck a couple of friends in it, and then find all the events you can.

I actually decided to add some more to war and peace. I like old cars, and I like some car people - normally the old guys who carry shotguns when they see someone driving up their driveway. Old car guys are like old bikers, same thinking, same realness. I fucking hate anyone who belongs to the Mustang club in NZ, or Australia. Half of them have never been to the US, and yet they can explain why you're wrong about everything your car has or hasn't got. Also against the wall when I take over are the Jaguar owners, the Porsche owners, and the Chev owners club guys. I have a special hate in my heart for Ferrari club members, dem fuckers need a life. Bikers are different. I mostly like bikers. You get complete fucktards online and IRL, but for the most part bikers are different, there's a different moral code. Car people are less cool. I have a $2500 alarm in the 67 with a GPS unit, because I know car people are covetous. The 67 lives long periods in a place when the welcoming committee believe in eminent domain laws, and carry Winchester pumps as a greeting. I've never had a biker steal from me, and I'd trust another biker long before I'd trust a muscle car person or a person in a suit. I'd trust a Mopar guy before a chevy guy. But I'd trust a Harley owner long before any of them. And I'm a sportsbike guy.

[ellipsis]

I've never had a biker steal from me, and I'd trust another biker long before I'd trust a muscle car person or a person in a suit. I'd trust a Mopar guy before a chevy guy. But I'd trust a Harley owner long before any of them. And I'm a sportsbike guy.

...what position of trust would the milkman have as opposed to the postman...

[Flip]

The "old school bikers" are a much more social bunch than the car brigades. The bikers are also a lot harder on dick and meat heads, who usually get the message and split.

The MG CC people are a nice bunch. Quite a few of them like me own modern sports cars. I also like most of the Landrover owners, most of them are "as mad as a meat axes".

I personally don't click well with any of the american car clubs. I have never felt entirely comfortable with them. I almost got in a punch up whan I was stuck between two big yank cars on the rivers run in Chch and asked if there was any truith in the saying "the bigger the car the smaller the dick?". I was in a MG midget at the time.

[yevjenko]

Harley "Customs" sales are dropping off...

% change graph
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/vexbuo2n1yotucdwpgim.png

Sales for cruisers and smaller bikes seem to be going up, but the tassels panniers and screens brigade seem to be dropping thru the floor.

HD have lowered their delivery expectations from 287,000 to 281,000 as well.
According to their earnings statement, income made from customs has gone from $29.1M to $23.4M in the last year, while the Sportster and Street line increased by a little over $2M, and Touring bikes have brought in around $2.5M more.Also while overall sales are only slightly down, parts and accessories income has dropped by over $15M. Harley’s US market share slipped from 56% to 51.3%

[scumdog]

99% of the speed of a motorcycle is the lose nut on top. Same with the muscle car thing. I've driven a lot of pro-touring Camaros, mustangs, even pick ups, that are surprisingly quick. So, using a good fraser as a benchmark, I've driven a couple of Cobra's (Factory Five replicas with LS7's/427's) that would spank a good 2 litre fraser - the difference is that the Cobra is much trickier to drive fast.

Most pro-touring Camaros / Mustangs would be slower than a Fraser on a tight course. The real difference is in the development. For example, I've got a 67 Mustang with at least $20k in suspension mods, big Wilwoods all round, and a worked (good) Shelby HiPo. Despite the money in it, it's still a 1960's Ford Falcon parts share car underneath. Is it fast? Well, it's quick, but not fast. It'll do 12 second quarters, and it'll turn and stop (sorta). A stock WRX would kill it. It's more fun to drive than the WRX, and there's more drama (and tyre smoke as well). Would it beat a Fraser? Not in a million years.

So, take a second Gen Camaro, or a 70 'Cuda. If you take time and money, (lots of money), and you're willing to drive bravely, then yes, you can beat a Fraser if you're a reasonably ballsy driver. It's a physics lesson, take a 2800 pound car, stuff 1200 horsepower worth of late model LS or Hemi turbo goodness, and stick enough rubber under it, and it's fast. I've seen Caterham's raced against said set up in the US, so I'm not basing it on opinion, but results.

But, it's kind of missing the point a little. Take a 1960 Impala (or the 58 Impala like I took to the beach hop this year) - with a two speed power glide, the cars just cruise smoothly and effortlessly. The carry lots of weight, and they have tiny brakes. They're also expensive and most of the parts are completely unobtainium. They made a million Mustangs, you can order any part you want. Try ordering parts for a 59 Imperial, or a 57 Pontiac Safari - I've been waiting for years for a couple of trim pieces to come up for sale. With that in mind, you don't risk the cars by racing. Bluntly, I prefer driving the Mustang in 90% of situations, it's the intellectual equivalency of banging rocks together for fun, but that all goes out the window when you can create rubber smoke in any gear. On a hot summers day, I'd prefer the 60 Impala Bel Air convertible, no question. Keep in mind, I'm the guy who thinks 800 k's out of a rear tyre on a thou is perfectly acceptable and normal.

As for racing performance of x versus y - same as bikes, the losest nut wins.

Okay, the TBird. Really great car. You can buy any part you want for them. They have great resale. They're not cheap to run (depending on the motor you get), but they're a great cruising car. You get in, start driving, and spend the day smiling at all the attention. They're easy to work on. You've got to be mindful of rust, make sure you check them out very carefully. I would never buy a US restored car unless I saw the restoration and the car in bare metal, and they ran out of bondo that year in the states. Chuck a couple of friends in it, and then find all the events you can.

I actually decided to add some more to war and peace. I like old cars, and I like some car people - normally the old guys who carry shotguns when they see someone driving up their driveway. Old car guys are like old bikers, same thinking, same realness. I fucking hate anyone who belongs to the Mustang club in NZ, or Australia. Half of them have never been to the US, and yet they can explain why you're wrong about everything your car has or hasn't got. Also against the wall when I take over are the Jaguar owners, the Porsche owners, and the Chev owners club guys. I have a special hate in my heart for Ferrari club members, dem fuckers need a life. Bikers are different. I mostly like bikers. You get complete fucktards online and IRL, but for the most part bikers are different, there's a different moral code. Car people are less cool. I have a $2500 alarm in the 67 with a GPS unit, because I know car people are covetous. The 67 lives long periods in a place when the welcoming committee believe in eminent domain laws, and carry Winchester pumps as a greeting. I've never had a biker steal from me, and I'd trust another biker long before I'd trust a muscle car person or a person in a suit. I'd trust a Mopar guy before a chevy guy. But I'd trust a Harley owner long before any of them. And I'm a sportsbike guy.

Pretty much my view too!

On little cars with grunt: I had a '62 Mistral kit-car, warm 302 Windsor, 5-speed and Mk5 4.1 Cortina suspension and brakes.

Went like a shower of shit off a hot shovel and handled like a go-kart on steroids.:cool:

[Drew]

The "old school bikers" are a much more social bunch than the car brigades. The bikers are also a lot harder on dick and meat heads, who usually get the message and split.

The MG CC people are a nice bunch. Quite a few of them like me own modern sports cars. I also like most of the Landrover owners, most of them are "as mad as a meat axes".

I personally don't click well with any of the american car clubs. I have never felt entirely comfortable with them. I almost got in a punch up whan I was stuck between two big yank cars on the rivers run in Chch and asked if there was any truith in the saying "the bigger the car the smaller the dick?". I was in a MG midget at the time.
You're my new fucken hero.

[madbikeboy]

The "old school bikers" are a much more social bunch than the car brigades. The bikers are also a lot harder on dick and meat heads, who usually get the message and split.

The MG CC people are a nice bunch. Quite a few of them like me own modern sports cars. I also like most of the Landrover owners, most of them are "as mad as a meat axes".

I personally don't click well with any of the american car clubs. I have never felt entirely comfortable with them. I almost got in a punch up whan I was stuck between two big yank cars on the rivers run in Chch and asked if there was any truith in the saying "the bigger the car the smaller the dick?". I was in a MG midget at the time.

Yeah, totally agree with the first paragraph.

I met a bunch of LR owners when I spent a year driving around Australia in an old Landy, they were all very helpful (albeit a bit odd in a couple of cases) when they found out what I was up to.

Me neither. Hence not belonging to any car clubs at all here in NZ. Do you think you might have started something there (keep in mind it takes 62 IQ points to tie shoe laces, and 94 IQ points to have a sense of humour - 94 IQ points might have been a stretch for some of the car guys).

[madbikeboy]

Pretty much my view too!

On little cars with grunt: I had a '62 Mistral kit-car, warm 302 Windsor, 5-speed and Mk5 4.1 Cortina suspension and brakes.

Went like a shower of shit off a hot shovel and handled like a go-kart on steroids.:cool:

This thread is useless without pics. Power to weight is everything - next time you stop a Fraser or Lotus 7, ask for a ride, you'll be shocked how fast they are...

While I have a little experience with 260/289/302's, I have a whole lot of love for 351 Windsors. They make a great basis for a fast project, bigger mains, head bolts, easier to make power - and basically bolt in compared to the 289/302. Deck height is everything since you can't bore them. I'm looking for a donor 351w for a rotating assembly I have sitting in my shed. While we're at it, anyone know of a 429/460 that needs some internal stuffing?

[madbikeboy]

...what position of trust would the milkman have as opposed to the postman...

I'm not sure, but I think a few people here on KB have the defective genes of a wandering postman or milkman...

[Genie]

Judge the rider, not the bike.

[Swoop]

(keep in mind it takes 62 IQ points to tie shoe laces, and 94 IQ points to have a sense of humour - 94 IQ points might have been a stretch for some of the car guys).
So... If some of these retards are laughing, don't ask them to simultaneously tie their shoelaces?
"The braincell is currently occupied. Please try again later". - sort of thing?

[madbikeboy]

So... If some of these retards are laughing, don't ask them to simultaneously tie their shoelaces?
"The braincell is currently occupied. Please try again later". - sort of thing?

Wow. I need to think about this. I'm assuming that 62 IQ points are required for a single activity of trying shoe lacing, and that single RAM available at that point can't multi-task. But, I may have got this wrong. It might mean they can laugh, drink beer, make lots of thug babies - with perhaps 3 IQ points (because of hard coding) - and then 62 for the shoelaces meaning a total requirement of 65.

[madbikeboy]

Judge the rider, not the bike.

Ma'am, without massive sweeping generalisations and the f-word I'd be totally lost for words and unable to write anything on this incredibly factual forum.

[scumdog]

This thread is useless without pics. Power to weight is everything - next time you stop a Fraser or Lotus 7, ask for a ride, you'll be shocked how fast they are...

While I have a little experience with 260/289/302's, I have a whole lot of love for 351 Windsors. They make a great basis for a fast project, bigger mains, head bolts, easier to make power - and basically bolt in compared to the 289/302. Deck height is everything since you can't bore them. I'm looking for a donor 351w for a rotating assembly I have sitting in my shed. While we're at it, anyone know of a 429/460 that needs some internal stuffing?

I've got a 429 AND a 460 - so what kind of 'internal stuffing' are you talking about?

[Flip]

This thread is useless without pics. Power to weight is everything - next time you stop a Fraser or Lotus 7, ask for a ride, you'll be shocked how fast they are...



Its the speed they carry through corners that is the most impressive aspect.

Being hunted down by my car on the Napier Taupo Rd.

[Flip]

You're my new fucken hero.

You frighten me!