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Crasherfromwayback
9th February 2015, 15:09
Hey there people. Finally got my hands on the colour I've always wanted. Had two dark blue/white ones and a black and red one...but it's this one I've longed to own. Fell in love all over again. They're an incredibly easy bike to ride. Nice and narrow...skinny tyres make it tip in easy and it's incredibly flickable. Pretty original and tidy. 31000km's. This one's a keeper. Aye.
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Katman
9th February 2015, 15:33
Polished Rockers, here we come.
nodrog
9th February 2015, 15:37
I see your sex dungeon is empty, where did all the dudes go?
Crasherfromwayback
9th February 2015, 15:40
Polished Rockers, here we come.
Hadn't thought of that! Must get hold of the organizers and see if they're gonna do it again. Had you have had your new seat last time...:msn-wink:
BuzzardNZ
9th February 2015, 15:54
It looks amazing Pete. Very nice find :2thumbsup .I remember seeing those new on the showroom floor many years ago at Wellington Motorcycles!
Crasherfromwayback
9th February 2015, 15:57
It looks amazing Pete. Very nice find :2thumbsup .I remember seeing those new on the showroom floor many years ago at Wellington Motorcycles!
Cheers mate. It's a nice one for sure. Not perfect...but pretty original and genuine. Feels nice and tight to ride. Not baggy at all. Fast enough for this old cunt too.
MIXONE
9th February 2015, 15:58
Went for a ride yesterday with a mate who has got one of the square headlight 1100s.Funny how his bike and my 15 year old honda were getting all the comments etc whilst surrounded by HDs,triumphs,bmw etc.
Nice bike by the way Pete.
Crasherfromwayback
9th February 2015, 16:00
Went for a ride yesterday with a mate who has got one of the square headlight 1100s.Funny how his bike and my 15 year old honda were getting all the comments etc whilst surrounded by HDs,triumphs,bmw etc.
Nice bike by the way Pete.
Cheers mate. The thing with old shit is...people don't get to see too many of them any more. So when they do see a nice one...like I do...they dig it.
BuzzardNZ
9th February 2015, 16:00
Cheers mate. It's a nice one for sure. Not perfect...but pretty original and genuine. Feels nice and tight to ride. Not baggy at all. Fast enough for this old cunt too.
Pics taken at Mt Crawford Prison?
Also, what's with the Slabby name for these?
sidecar bob
9th February 2015, 16:06
Did you get that off Mr Collard?
I just bought my favourite color 1100g a couple of weeks back too, the red & blue, same as I raced when they were new.
I cant believe how daily useable they still are.
James Deuce
9th February 2015, 16:07
Put it in the lounge.
Crasherfromwayback
9th February 2015, 16:15
Pics taken at Mt Crawford Prison?
Also, what's with the Slabby name for these?
Yep. Because they're slab sided.
Did you get that off Mr Collard?
I just bought my favourite color 1100g a couple of weeks back too, the red & blue, same as I raced when they were new.
I cant believe how daily useable they still are.
Sure did. And yeah. Lazy as all fuck to ride eh! Red and Blue is my 2nd fav colour!
Put it in the lounge.
No room. I have another vintage KX on the way that'll share it with the SR. That...and I want to ride this thing every now and then!
mossy1200
9th February 2015, 17:25
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-845118135.htm
We could be chips. You can be Ponch and ill be not as cool Jon.
Crasherfromwayback
9th February 2015, 17:33
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-845118135.htm
We could be chips. You can be Ponch and ill be not as cool Jon.
Lol. I'll roost in your face! Is that a crease in the tank on the left side?
mossy1200
9th February 2015, 17:36
Lol. I'll roost in your face! Is that a crease in the tank on the left side?
That's the mounting surface for the puzzy magnet. Only 750s need an external P magnet. The 1100 has one built in.
sidecar bob
9th February 2015, 17:50
Here's mine. I got it from Timaru when I went down South for the road race nationals.
Give me a bike with SACS, big beautiful SACS.
Crasherfromwayback
9th February 2015, 17:51
Here's mine. I got it from Timaru when I went down for the road race nationals.
VERY nice mate! Love that colour too. How many km's travelled?
mossy1200
9th February 2015, 17:53
I had one as a loan bike in the late 90s while my guzzi was being repaired. I didn't want to give it back. It seemed to have a endless amount of low and mid range grunt.
sidecar bob
9th February 2015, 17:56
VERY nice mate! Love that colour too. How many km's travelled?
It's a Canadian import from virtually brand new & is on a black number plate. It has 21,000 miles.
It makes me feel less guilty about riding it everywhere at 110.
Drew
9th February 2015, 18:11
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-845118135.htm
We could be chips. You can be Ponch and ill be not as cool Jon.
Same as my old man's one. I don't see that many with the stripes that flicks up at the front.
Katman
9th February 2015, 18:14
Is that a crease in the tank on the left side?
It better not be if he's describing it as mint for it's age.
mossy1200
9th February 2015, 18:16
Same as my old man's one. I don't see that many with the stripes that flicks up at the front.
Its got a rg250 look to it. The model just before the banana arm had the same shape around the foot pegs.
skippa1
9th February 2015, 18:19
Hey there people. Finally got my hands on the colour I've always wanted. Had two dark blue/white ones and a black and red one...but it's this one I've longed to own. Fell in love all over again. They're an incredibly easy bike to ride. Nice and narrow...skinny tyres make it tip in easy and it's incredibly flickable. Pretty original and tidy. 31000km's. This one's a keeper. Aye.
Fucken beauty!
nzspokes
9th February 2015, 18:20
Shit that's nice Pete. :yes:
T.W.R
9th February 2015, 20:16
Farkin NICE! Pete :niceone:
Basically a year to the day since I'd PM'd you about that other one & you said what you were after ..... all good things come to those who wait aye :cool:
Enjoy :msn-wink:
Paulo
12th February 2015, 11:35
Thats bloody nice Pete ! so have you kept the GS1200SS ?
Crasherfromwayback
12th February 2015, 11:38
Thats bloody nice Pete ! so have you kept the GS1200SS ?
Cheers Paul. And yeah. It's worth fuck all so I'll continue with the plans of chopping and hacking it up into an XR69 rep of sorts.
willytheekid
12th February 2015, 11:51
Very Nice Pete :yes:
...that the short wheel base model? (The one that wheelies like hell! :Punk:)
Love that era of bike, carbs cubes and lots of grunt!, great buy mate...enjoy the ride :D
Paulo
12th February 2015, 12:12
Cheers Paul. And yeah. It's worth fuck all so I'll continue with the plans of chopping and hacking it up into an XR69 rep of sorts.
Good stuff !
Arronduke
17th February 2015, 21:06
Nice bike, cant agree more love my 86 R - Red and Blue, the faster model.
Was the bike waiting for you on your release?
Crasherfromwayback
18th February 2015, 07:36
Nice bike, cant agree more love my 86 R - Red and Blue, the faster model.
Was the bike waiting for you on your release?
Lol. Yep. Fantastic old things really. An FZR1000 is prob the better bike...but they just don't have the same appeal to me having owned a few of each. And nah...but it could put me behind bars if I'm not careful.
jasonu
18th February 2015, 16:24
Lol. Yep. Fantastic old things really. An FZR1000 is prob the better bike...but they just don't have the same appeal to me having owned a few of each. And nah...but it could put me behind bars if I'm not careful.
I had an FZR1000, the last one before exup. It was bland and did nothing exciting. My 1986 (or was it 1987) GSXR1100 was and still is a much better bike to own.
Crasherfromwayback
18th February 2015, 16:31
I had an FZR1000, the last one before exup. It was bland and did nothing exciting. My 1986 (or was it 1987) GSXR1100 was and still is a much better bike to own.
I think the FZR1000T is def a better bike that the GSXR1100G...but pride of ownership and the fun factor of the GSXR are far greater to me. So I'm happy as a sandboy. Both need another gear though!
Drew
18th February 2015, 16:47
For performance and value, the FZR1000 destroys the Gixxer in every way...I'd still have the Gixxer.
Crasherfromwayback
18th February 2015, 17:27
For performance and value, the FZR1000 destroys the Gixxer in every way...I'd still have the Gixxer.
Agreed 100%.
jasonu
18th February 2015, 17:41
Both need another gear though!
I remember thinking that of the GSXR but don't recall it being an issue on the Jamajar.
mossy1200
18th February 2015, 17:42
For performance and value, the FZR1000 destroys the Gixxer in every way...I'd still have the Gixxer.
Only boys ride FZRs. Real men put busa conrods in Gixxer motors.
Crasherfromwayback
18th February 2015, 17:43
I remember thinking that of the GSXR but don't recall it being an issue on the Jamajar.
The FZR750's six speeder goes straight into the thou anyway...easy fix.
Drew
18th February 2015, 17:47
I remember thinking that of the GSXR but don't recall it being an issue on the Jamajar.The five speed lets them down on the track, having to use first gear after ya leave the line kills lap times on all those old boxes.
Only boys ride FZRs. Real men put busa conrods in Gixxer motors.
How do different rods make a difference, unless one changes the stroke at the same time?
Drew
18th February 2015, 17:49
The FZR750's six speeder goes straight into the thou anyway...easy fix.
So does the 750 Gixxer to the 1100
Crasherfromwayback
18th February 2015, 17:51
So does the 750 Gixxer to the 1100
Choice! May have to do that then!
mossy1200
18th February 2015, 17:51
How do different rods make a difference, unless one changes the stroke at the same time?
Its French for the FZR is a nice track bike but idd rather own a Hot Rod Gixxer as a road bike. Very easy to build a big powerful gsxr. Very limited engine mods for FZR.
Drew
18th February 2015, 17:54
Its French for the FZR is a nice track bike but idd rather own a Hot Rod Gixxer as a road bike. Very easy to build a big powerful gsxr. Very limited engine mods for FZR.
Yeah, the early oil burner Gixxer can get massive cams and 1340 kits on standard barrels.
Drew
18th February 2015, 17:56
Choice! May have to do that then!
I threw three of them out when they didn't fit the RF. I need a six speed from a WP or newer 750 pre SRAD.
mossy1200
18th February 2015, 17:59
Yeah, the early oil burner Gixxer can get massive cams and 1340 kits on standard barrels.
My FZR had power but it was in revs you wouldn't ride on the road. FZRs tend to tune and sacrifice usability for peak power when you can lift the GSXR torque and hp everywhere at the same time.
Crasherfromwayback
18th February 2015, 18:03
Yeah, the early oil burner Gixxer can get massive cams and 1340 kits on standard barrels.
I'm a gonna be doing that shit to my GS1200SS.
Drew
18th February 2015, 18:07
I'm a gonna be doing that shit to my GS1200SS.
Is it not water cooled?
James Deuce
18th February 2015, 18:12
Is it not water cooled?
Where the hell did you get that idea from?
Crasherfromwayback
18th February 2015, 18:15
Is it not water cooled?
Only when it's raining Bro.
Drew
18th February 2015, 18:33
Only when it's raining Bro.
I just figured the GS would have come out with the GSXR motor of the same year. Since it isn't fitted with the big fin motor like the original XR.
Crasherfromwayback
18th February 2015, 18:37
I just figured the GS would have come out with the GSXR motor of the same year. Since it isn't fitted with the big fin motor like the original XR.
Nah. Tis the early GSF1200 engine with soft cams, small carbs and tame ign. Easy fix though eh! I'll go as big as practical...big cams and flatslides.
mossy1200
18th February 2015, 18:40
http://www.bigccracing.com/shop/product.asp?idproduct=293
Drew
18th February 2015, 18:45
http://www.bigccracing.com/shop/product.asp?idproduct=293
Yeah, that kit needs replacement barrels and case work. Pretty sure 1340 is as big as they get without all that jazz.
mossy1200
18th February 2015, 18:49
Yeah, that kit needs replacement barrels and case work. Pretty sure 1340 is as big as they get without all that jazz.
I think that's what Martin Peck was running. I think he had filled a section of the back of the block in with ally prior to installing sleeves.
Drew
18th February 2015, 18:57
I think that's what Martin Peck was running. I think he had filled a section of the back of the block in with ally prior to installing sleeves.
140 ponies at the tread is easy and off the shelf, plenty for carrying 37kilos of Pete round.
T.W.R
18th February 2015, 19:19
I'm a gonna be doing that shit to my GS1200SS.
:devil2: 130 ish can be done for next to nothing
This thing has to north of 150 easy :cool:
Crasherfromwayback
18th February 2015, 19:20
http://www.bigccracing.com/shop/product.asp?idproduct=293
And I don't want to run 13:1 comp for street use either.
Crasherfromwayback
18th February 2015, 19:21
:devil2: 130 ish can be done for next to nothing
This thing has to north of 150 easy :cool:
Interesting mix of new and old there. I want mine to look more old XR69ish.
James Deuce
18th February 2015, 19:29
http://www.goobike.com/bike/stock_8801108B30150104001/
T.W.R
18th February 2015, 19:33
Interesting mix of new and old there. I want mine to look more old XR69ish.
Something like this :whistle:
Though it's actually interesting to see what sort of prices good 12s go for back in Japan these days
mossy1200
18th February 2015, 19:45
And I don't want to run 13:1 comp for street use either.
Yes that's why you would run busa rods which are longer+stronger and pick the ally base cylinder spacer for below the barrels. Its available in differing sizes so you can select your desired compression.
http://www.orientexpress.com/c-439-cylinder-spacers_suzuki-sport-gsxr1100.aspx
Crasherfromwayback
18th February 2015, 19:58
http://www.goobike.com/bike/stock_8801108B30150104001/
Something like this :whistle:
Though it's actually interesting to see what sort of prices good 12s go for back in Japan these days
Correct. Wonder where those cunts got those tanks from!
Drew
18th February 2015, 20:55
Correct. Wonder where those cunts got those tanks from!
Have a gander at the one on the Gixxer. They look to be modded versions of that to me.
T.W.R
18th February 2015, 22:12
Correct. Wonder where those cunts got those tanks from!
Japan ;) there's all sorts of goodies available for them over there; full XR69 bodywork kits were available.... dug pretty deep into the web a few years ago when I had my GS looking for bits n pieces; went all ga-ga over a mandrel bent yoshi pipe until I did the maths on the exchange rate & shipping costs at the time :crazy:, came up roses though when I scored a basically new/unused Yoshi titanium headers/mid pipe & cyclone can off TM for peanuts :2thumbsup
Paulo
18th February 2015, 23:25
http://www.goobike.com/bike/stock_8801108B30150104001/
Ah bugger I had just about gotten over selling mine, I knew I'd regret it, this isn't helping.
jasonu
16th March 2015, 06:20
Hey there people. Finally got my hands on the colour I've always wanted. Had two dark blue/white ones and a black and red one...but it's this one I've longed to own. Fell in love all over again. They're an incredibly easy bike to ride. Nice and narrow...skinny tyres make it tip in easy and it's incredibly flickable. Pretty original and tidy. 31000km's. This one's a keeper. Aye.
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http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-856757748.htm
How does this one stack up when compared to your blue and white one? Price???
Crasherfromwayback
16th March 2015, 08:39
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How does this one stack up when compared to your blue and white one? Price???
Can't really tell from their pics. But from what I've seen of their bikes, they're not that flash. I paid $8500.00 for mine. Don't really care what it's worth. I wanted it, and had to pay that to get it. I'll be owning it for a long time so it doesn't really matter!
mossy1200
16th March 2015, 17:00
Can't really tell from their pics. But from what I've seen of their bikes, they're not that flash. I paid $8500.00 for mine. Don't really care what it's worth. I wanted it, and had to pay that to get it. I'll be owning it for a long time so it doesn't really matter!
8.5k is about the same as the loss on a new bike in the first year.
You could sell it to me in a years time for 1k and still be ahead.
Crasherfromwayback
16th March 2015, 17:23
8.5k is about the same as the loss on a new bike in the first year.
You could sell it to me in a years time for 1k and still be ahead.
Depends on what it is. You'll not take an 8.5k hit if you buy a GSXR600 @ 13k for example! :msn-wink:
And...yeah...nah.:sunny:
Drew
16th March 2015, 17:56
Depends on what it is. You'll not take an 8.5k hit if you buy a GSXR600 @ 13k for example! :msn-wink:
And...yeah...nah.:sunny:
There will likely be fucktards trying to only take a $500 hit in a years time.
mossy1200
16th March 2015, 18:01
Depends on what it is. You'll not take an 8.5k hit if you buy a GSXR600 @ 13k for example! :msn-wink:
And...yeah...nah.:sunny:
Don't go bringing your under priced new bikes that should be sold for more coins into this.
Ill negotiate on the 1k. How low will you go?
mossy1200
16th March 2015, 18:03
There will likely be fucktards trying to only take a $500 hit in a years time.
11months time so they don't need pay for a rego and wof.
Drew
16th March 2015, 18:10
11months time so they don't need pay for a rego and wof.
Chopping off the hippy hair has made you so cynical.
mossy1200
16th March 2015, 18:15
Chopping off the hippy hair has made you so cynical.
I think of it as reducing skull temperature to increase brain performance.
rocketman1
17th March 2015, 18:36
Here's mine. I got it from Timaru when I went down South for the road race nationals.
Give me a bike with SACS, big beautiful SACS.
Nice bike, these early GSXR's are very popular in Europe now, good ones demand reasonable $.
jasonu
7th May 2015, 13:05
Here 's mine.
1988 GSXR1100. I got it a couple of weeks ago off Ebay. It was somewhat as described except for the leaking forks, 3 different shades of red and the buggar wouldn't idle. I fixed the forks. I found the airbox seam split so had to add some nut plates to hold it together, that also has the added benefit of now being able to remove the airbox from the frame without having to completely dismantle the rest of the bike. I found 2 of the carb slide diaphragms split so replaced those.
Still wouldn't idle. Many thanks to Grumphs International Tuning Services (or G.I.T.S. for short) for recommending fiddling with the pilot screws and hay presto, fixed.
It will never be a minter like Crashers but is really tidy and a good bang for the bucks spent.
I had an '86 1100R last century and after reading this thread just had to have another. When (if) I get bored with it I will always easily be able to get my money back.
Crasherfromwayback
7th May 2015, 13:42
Here 's mine.
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Choice one! Every time I ride mine I get off it grinning like an idiot. Still prefer your tank shape!!!
nzspokes
7th May 2015, 20:20
My GSF1200 with an opened up airbox and jetting makes a wonderful noise at revs. I can only imagine what a GSXR1100 sounds like.
One day I may track down some 750 cams and a head for it.
Grumph
8th May 2015, 06:42
[QUOTE=jasonu;
Still wouldn't idle. Many thanks to Grumphs International Tuning Services (or G.I.T.S. for short) for recommending fiddling with the pilot screws and hay presto, fixed.[/QUOTE]
That's OLD G.I.T.S. to you please mate....
Brings back memories, looking at that. Nice bikes but never the easiest to work on. And the one long ride I ever did on one, I didn't think I would ever be able to stand upright again. Nice on track though.
sidecar bob
8th May 2015, 08:00
My GSF1200 with an opened up airbox and jetting makes a wonderful noise at revs. I can only imagine what a GSXR1100 sounds like.
To be honest, my 1100G, completely stock including the muffler and is what I imagine an electric bike would be like to ride. virtually silent & no need for the gearbox at anything over 80km.
jasonu
17th May 2015, 14:52
The rocker cover was a bit weepy here and there so I bought some new seals and opened it up.
I expected to helicoil some or all of the threads that the rocker cover screws thread into but wasn't expecting this.
skippa1
17th May 2015, 14:54
The rocker cover was a bit weepy here and there so I bought some new seals and opened it up.
I expected to helicoil some or all of the threads that the rocker cover screws thread into but wasn't expecting this.
Bugger.....ingenious but.....bugger
sidecar bob
17th May 2015, 17:26
The rocker cover was a bit weepy here and there so I bought some new seals and opened it up.
I expected to helicoil some or all of the threads that the rocker cover screws thread into but wasn't expecting this.
Oh fuckin dear, only in America. Don't they have tig welders there?
Were the bolts already loose too?
nzspokes
17th May 2015, 18:30
Wow. Just wow.
T.W.R
17th May 2015, 18:43
The rocker cover was a bit weepy here and there so I bought some new seals and opened it up.
I expected to helicoil some or all of the threads that the rocker cover screws thread into but wasn't expecting this.
:pinch: I'd be going over the rest of the bike with a fine tooth comb :yes:
jasonu
26th May 2015, 14:52
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Suzuki-GSX-R-/251961629596?nma=true&si=Xn%252BDKM1lmYdtAMy8DC2mVfdpAE0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
$8k usd reserve not met.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161713985004?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
This one will be interesting.
Crasherfromwayback
26th May 2015, 15:07
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Suzuki-GSX-R-/251961629596?nma=true&si=Xn%252BDKM1lmYdtAMy8DC2mVfdpAE0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
$8k usd reserve not met.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161713985004?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
This one will be interesting.
Yeah saw those.
Grumph
26th May 2015, 15:27
The rocker cover was a bit weepy here and there so I bought some new seals and opened it up.
I expected to helicoil some or all of the threads that the rocker cover screws thread into but wasn't expecting this.
Ha, only just seen this...i got used to shit like that when i did a lot of TQ GSXR750's. If it wasn't broken like that, my fix for stripped threads there was to retap to 10x1.5 and make up an insert from 10mm threaded steel rod, tapped 7x1.0...Wind it in hard using loctite, cut it off and grind flush. Even the speedway guys never buggered one of those.
sidecar bob
26th May 2015, 17:12
Ha, only just seen this...i got used to shit like that when i did a lot of TQ GSXR750's. If it wasn't broken like that, my fix for stripped threads there was to retap to 10x1.5 and make up an insert from 10mm threaded steel rod, tapped 7x1.0...Wind it in hard using loctite, cut it off and grind flush. Even the speedway guys never buggered one of those.
You can buy them off the shelf now, you should have patented the idea. http://www.mechanicstoolsandbits.com/inserts-for-all-kits-time-sert-18125117n-m8x125-core-kit-insert-p-5758.html
jasonu
27th May 2015, 11:34
Yeah saw those.
Relisted. I hope he gets his asking price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-GSX-R-/251973002655?vxp=mtr
sidecar bob
27th May 2015, 12:01
Relisted. I hope he gets his asking price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-GSX-R-/251973002655?vxp=mtr
It would owe aprox $NZ17-18,000 on the road if it were imported here, thats a lot for a US spec one without the factory exhaust,
Im sure they will come to that, but theyre not there yet.
Crasherfromwayback
27th May 2015, 12:26
Relisted. I hope he gets his asking price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-GSX-R-/251973002655?vxp=mtr
I've had two in that colour scheme. Tis my least fav.
jasonu
27th May 2015, 13:12
It would owe aprox $NZ17-18,000 on the road if it were imported here, thats a lot for a US spec one without the factory exhaust,
Im sure they will come to that, but theyre not there yet.
What's the spec. difference between the Yank and NZ bikes? The California models have some emissions control stuff but apart from that I thought they were pretty much the same.
sidecar bob
27th May 2015, 17:21
What's the spec. difference between the Yank and NZ bikes? The California models have some emissions control stuff but apart from that I thought they were pretty much the same.
Big blinkers, side reflectors, different tank vent, evaporative emission control on carbs, MPH speedo, no headlamp switch (permanently on)
Mine is US spec, but been in NZ long enough to have a black number plate.
I will convert the blinkers to Jap spec & toss all the Evap shit when its turn comes for a tidy up.
Crasherfromwayback
27th May 2015, 17:53
Big blinkers, side reflectors, different tank vent, evaporative emission control on carbs, MPH speedo, no headlamp switch (permanently on)
Mine is US spec, but been in NZ long enough to have a black number plate.
I will convert the blinkers to Jap spec & toss all the Evap shit when its turn comes for a tidy up.
Totally diff tank shape too. I much prefer the US shape. I want one!
sidecar bob
27th May 2015, 18:18
Totally diff tank shape too. I much prefer the US shape. I want one!
Really? My US spec G has the same tank as my nz new jap spec chassis number 000003 (third one ever built) had, the H or J is more sloped at the rear. Or am I about to learn something?
Crasherfromwayback
27th May 2015, 18:28
Really? My US spec G has the same tank as my nz new jap spec chassis number 000003 (third one ever built) had, the H or J is more sloped at the rear. Or am I about to learn something?
Check the profile at the rear.
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US ones are more curved.
sidecar bob
27th May 2015, 18:39
Check the profile at the rear.
US ones are more curved.
W.i.b.f. I just compared photos of my 00003 bike to my current US spec & they are different.
I couldn't work out why I couldn't ride the US bike with my elbow on the tank, chin in hand like I rode my first bike for hours at a time without my elbow slipping down towards me. I thought it was due to the different material jacket.
I prefer the jap tank, but it's all about what means the most to me from back in the day.
jasonu
9th September 2015, 13:06
I did a couple of base runs on the dyno and here is the sheet. It has quite a dip in the 5-6k rpm range (running rich? I live at 3500ft above sea level)
The Suzuki spec says it had 130hp at the crank when new. Allowing for sales bullshit in reality I think it would have had around 120-125 crank hp when new. I guess the drive train eats around 15%+- so my 102hp isn't too bad for an old bike. It did smoke a fair amount from the exhaust while being caned on the dyno and it does eat a small amount of engine oil when being ridden.
AllanB
9th September 2015, 19:35
What's the spec. difference between the Yank and NZ bikes? .
US bikes are set up as left hand drive like their cars.
Grumph
9th September 2015, 19:39
That peak is about par for the course. Can't remember if yours has a stock pipe or aftermarket ?
That dip is characteristic 4:1 pipe with CV carbs. They just can't make up their mind what to do there...the resonances go all to fuck.
It's often still there witn flatslides but much much less.
Best dyno I ever saw was an 1100L Modified Mini sprint speedway motor. Dead stock internally except for a good 3 angle valve job and dialled cams.
Methanol, 39 FCR Keihins and a pipe - 148hp at the wheels at just under 10 grand.
Crasherfromwayback
9th September 2015, 21:32
I did a couple of base runs on the dyno and here is the sheet. It has quite a dip in the 5-6k rpm range (running rich? I live at 3500ft above sea level)
The Suzuki spec says it had 130hp at the crank when new. Allowing for sales bullshit in reality I think it would have had around 120-125 crank hp when new. I guess the drive train eats around 15%+- so my 102hp isn't too bad for an old bike. It did smoke a fair amount from the exhaust while being caned on the dyno and it does eat a small amount of engine oil when being ridden.
The std exhaust on my slabbie is incredibly heavy and restrictive. I've just fitted a period correct Kerker. Saved around 10kgs and gained lots of torque.
jasonu
10th September 2015, 04:01
That peak is about par for the course. Can't remember if yours has a stock pipe or aftermarket ?
That dip is characteristic 4:1 pipe with CV carbs. They just can't make up their mind what to do there...the resonances go all to fuck.
It's often still there witn flatslides but much much less.
Best dyno I ever saw was an 1100L Modified Mini sprint speedway motor. Dead stock internally except for a good 3 angle valve job and dialled cams.
Methanol, 39 FCR Keihins and a pipe - 148hp at the wheels at just under 10 grand.
The std exhaust on my slabbie is incredibly heavy and restrictive. I've just fitted a period correct Kerker. Saved around 10kgs and gained lots of torque.
Yes my bike is completely stock except for a K&N air filter in the stock airbox and, good or bad, that is the way I like it. The dyno guy suggested the pipe is a likely cause of the dip along with the slides possibly being a little slow to react. Looks like I am stuck with what I got...
How about a picture of the kerker?
Drew
10th September 2015, 06:32
Yes my bike is completely stock and, good or bad, that is the way I like it. The dyno guy suggested the pipe is a likely cause of the dip along with the slides possibly being a little slow to react. Looks like I am stuck with what I got...
How about a picture of the kerker?
My dad had a 750 that was tuned for a full Yoshi system. Thing went great. After a crash the headers got a bit twisted, and a huge hole appeared at about 3500rpm. Perhaps they're just really sensitive to exhaust flow, and yours is a bit blocked up.
Just a thought.
jasonu
10th September 2015, 06:46
My dad had a 750 that was tuned for a full Yoshi system. Thing went great. After a crash the headers got a bit twisted, and a huge hole appeared at about 3500rpm. Perhaps they're just really sensitive to exhaust flow, and yours is a bit blocked up.
Just a thought.
Fair point. The dyno guy suggested the smoke might be build up in the exhaust. Hard for me to give it the thrashing it would take to clear it though. No local race track and lotsa cops.
jellywrestler
10th September 2015, 08:56
US bikes are set up as left hand drive like their cars.
yip with their headlights dipping opposite to ours.
many a person has brought in a bike and got to the warrant station and been failed for this.
Drew
10th September 2015, 09:00
yip with their headlights dipping opposite to ours.
many a person has brought in a bike and got to the warrant station and been failed for this.
It's a pain in arse when the diffuser is how the beam is directed, rather than the bulb rotation. I've managed to modify the mounting points of the bulbs to get them slanted the other way. On those bikes, only low beam is slightly skewed.
Grumph
10th September 2015, 11:42
Fair point. The dyno guy suggested the smoke might be build up in the exhaust. Hard for me to give it the thrashing it would take to clear it though. No local race track and lotsa cops.
Never had one of those mufflers apart to see if it's got packing..i'd suggest a soak in caustic if it doesn't have packing. They're a one piece system too - bugger.
You can at least clean out the headers fairly easily. Flex drive on a good drill does it. Wound curtain hanging wire makes a good flex drive and it's easy enough to put a wire brush on the end. I'd seriously doubt if even a good thrash would clean out much baked on carbon.
J.A.W.
10th September 2015, 14:20
Funny, after pioneering Nippon liquid cooled production bikes back in the `70s with their GT 750 & RE 5..
..Suzuki tried to be clever with the bloody flimsy slabby-flabbies & spray heaps of oil around inside instead..
No wonder it found its way into the pipes.. but hey, at least it stopped 'em rusting out, eh.. give 'er heaps, like a 2T, shit'll burn out..
jasonu
1st October 2015, 03:28
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-GSX-R-/131614996236?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1ea4dd770c&item=131614996236
Crasherfromwayback
1st October 2015, 14:22
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-GSX-R-/131614996236?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1ea4dd770c&item=131614996236
That's a nice one.
sidecar bob
4th October 2015, 08:25
Not an 1100, but I just bought this little sweetie sight unseen.
Pic should stay up for a couple of days until the funds show his end.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=958951069
Grumph
4th October 2015, 08:30
Aw jeez Bob - i hope that's not going to be your donor frame....
Can i have it to use till you come south again ?
sidecar bob
4th October 2015, 08:43
Aw jeez Bob - i hope that's not going to be your donor frame....
Can i have it to use till you come south again ?
Most definitely not a donor bike, I have a spare 4 or 5 hundred for one of those, but this one is far too good.
I got it as a wedding anniversary present for my wife. Same method as I used to get the '66 R50 BMW I got her last year that I enjoy riding. ;)
Do you know Gary that owned it? a British gentleman about your age.
Kickaha
4th October 2015, 08:52
Aw jeez Bob - i hope that's not going to be your donor frame....
Can i have it to use till you come south again ?
I'm probably picking it up, pop around and I'll give you the keys
sidecar bob
4th October 2015, 09:18
I'm probably picking it up, pop around and I'll give you the keys
It will only be a donor bike by the time you pricks have all finished thrashing it.
Grumph
4th October 2015, 10:05
It will only be a donor bike by the time you pricks have all finished thrashing it.
He might....If you gave it to me it'd come back running better. (cough....)
Gary...Scots accent ?
Kickaha
4th October 2015, 10:09
It will only be a donor bike by the time you pricks have all finished thrashing it.
Is it WOF and regoed ? I'm sure I could find someone to t̶h̶r̶a̶s̶h̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶u̶c̶k̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶i̶t̶ ride it up gently to HD for you?
sidecar bob
5th October 2015, 19:13
He might....If you gave it to me it'd come back running better. (cough....)
Gary...Scots accent ?
I don't doubt that for a second, you'd probably overhaul the whole engine for $500 too.
Yeah, big time, can hardly understand him.
jasonu
6th October 2015, 12:45
, you'd probably overhaul the whole engine for $500 too.
.
Freight included???
Grumph
6th October 2015, 13:37
Freight included???
that's a no......
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