Obviously not KBers

[Edbear]

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/66559542/Motorcyclist-clocked-at-218kmh

"It appears in both cases the riders overestimated their ability..."

[nzspokes]

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/66559542/Motorcyclist-clocked-at-218kmh

"It appears in both cases the riders overestimated their ability..."

Slow down Rossi.:facepalm:

He will be walking for a while.

[Muftin_]

"We are disappointed that this crash appears to have almost an exact repeat of the crash on SH50, Hastings, on January 26," he said.

"In that crash, the male rider of a similar motorbike was travelling too fast upon exiting a corner, lost control and the bike and rider struck an oncoming van, killing him instantly

Sounds exactly like what happened on dec 23ish

[Akzle]

lets just sumarise:

guy travels in excess of 218km/h, and doesn't crash. is stupid enough to stop for police.

guy travels unindentified speed but obviously too fast for his ability/ the conditions, police do nothing to stop/save/avoid crash.


what's the fucking story supposed to be?

talent > no talent.

ed, you're a moron.

[ducatilover]

Sounds like the bikes were Ducati Diavels.

You heard them from down there? Fuck you've got good ears

[nodrog]

That would never happen in an mx5.

[ducatilover]

I may be wrong but I think the Diavels are the only Ducatis that come in black.

:lol::killingme:niceone: Grouse, made my night

[ducatilover]

That would never happen in an mx5.

I had one for a week and I had sex with men

[Kickaha]

"It appears in both cases the riders overestimated their ability..."
They were probably tourists

[bogan]

That would never happen in an mx5.

Oh I dunno, down a very steep hill and a good tailwind you might just penetrate that 218 mark :buggerd:

Also, SH5, what a fucking rookie, any road that begins with state highway is full of snakes...

[nzspokes]

I had one for a week and I had sex with men

A guy at work had a white one, he painted it brown and was very proud of it. Then we started calling it a poo on wheels. It got sold.

[Laava]

I may be wrong but I think the Diavels are the only Ducatis that come in black.

Diavel is italian for black, or dark grey matte.

[Laava]

I had one for a week and I had sex with men

Bet you ended up with heaps of product tho?

[skippa1]

ed, you're a moron.
Yep ...............

[AllanB]

Black Ducati ............. heaps of them.

[skippa1]

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/66559542/Motorcyclist-clocked-at-218kmh

"It appears in both cases the riders overestimated their ability..."
Bad taste ed.....meds wearing off?

[skippa1]

I may be wrong but I think the Diavels are the only Ducatis that come in black.
In plonkerville youre right. And since you are mayor, you would know.





fuckin twat

[awayatc]

I may be wrong but I think the Diavels are the only Ducatis that come in black.

At least you are consistent,
everytime you open your mouth, you are wrong and irritating...


Meanwhile in the real world, plenty of bikes can do 0 to 200 kph in under 10 sec.
so going from 100 to 218 kph may take all of....6 or 7 seconds.
Most likely on a straight stretch...
Cops pulled him over, he stopped and lost licence.

in the same province somebody on a bike died...
while overcooking a corner
last year somebody else also died in same province
on a motorbike overcooking a different corner.

So Obviously bad riding kills
But speeding doesn't....

some bikes are Ducatis,
some Ducatis crash..
2 Ducatis crashed in larger Taupo area in a year...
and 1 Ducati opened up a bit near a popo.

Yeah, that really sounds like something sinister is going on....

[neels]

I may be wrong but I think the Diavels are the only Ducatis that come in black.
Just popped out to the garage to check, indeed you are wrong.

[Edbear]

Bad taste ed.....meds wearing off?

I did think of that, mate, but the number of members lately harping on about how they should be able to ride as they please without any speed restrictions got my goat a bit.

Whenever anyone commented that the members who feel they are the best judge of their competence may not be right, they dismissed the suggestion.

In almost every case in recent times, it was loss of control at higher speeds behind the accident. Not just the younger, less experienced riders, but also the older ones, both experienced and returning riders. The lesson is that everyone is susceptible to loss of control and we should never overestimate our ability, no matter how long we have been riding.

80hp is plenty enough to get you into trouble and to exceed 200km/h as was the case with my old GSX600F, and the modern 150hp+ bikes are too much for many and catch them out by surprise for the same reason as the modern cars - you don't know how fast you're going. The speedo reading is just a number and drivers/riders are not aware of the physics of the speed they are doing when it comes to a corner or an avoidance maneuver.

Also, the thrill of riding fast all too often outweighs common sense.

[puddytat]

Well if I was on the flats outside of Taupo doin 218 km/h I'dhve stopped too as where tha fuck ya going to run to out there......

But 218 on a road I know with twisties & bolt holes......:shifty:

[MD]

They were probably tourists

Or rider was swerving to avoid a tourist. Honestly these bloody tourists lately are becoming a bigger menace on our roads than motorbikes.

218 kph..how come the universe didn't implode according to the marketing hype spat out by TPTB?

[puddytat]

Most of the dodgyness I see out on the roads nowadays is dodgy manoeuvres by impatient people wanting to pass.
The best thing the Govt. could do I reckon is to put more pullover places on roads where slower traffic can pull over to allow vehicles to pass which would be great in terrain where the cost & practicality of passing lanes are mitigating factors.
I often see well meaning souls pull over onto the side of a road when they can in pretty dodgy spots, but this often leads to vehicles following them being forced to pass in dodgy spots....:shit:

[Tazz]

They were both right handed too. How many right handed drivers/riders die on our roads each year? I think it's about time something was done about these right handed death bringers.


Or rider was swerving to avoid a tourist. Honestly these bloody tourists lately are becoming a bigger menace on our roads than motorbikes.

218 kph..how come the universe didn't implode according to the marketing hype spat out by TPTB?

:laugh: Yeah man! Came to work today and someone had eaten my packet of biscuits. Pretty sure it was one of those pesky tourists.
My knee is extra sore too which must be from the extra foreign traffic driving past disturbing more cold wind onto it, wankers.


Most of the dodgyness I see out on the roads nowadays is dodgy manoeuvres by impatient people wanting to pass.

Why should anything have to be done about a morons impatience? I hate having to wait 2 mins for my Uncle Bens rice, can we get the govt to fund research into a faster cooking microwave for me? Pretty please.

[James Deuce]

I remember about a year ago on here a guy posted about a rider who was riding "Fast and Safe" and I replied there was no such thing and boy did I get attacked for my view. There would be many on here who would think no different to the way these riders ride because they can "Scan" for anything bad before it happens.

You just keep applying your own conclusions and assumptions to everything you see and use the smallest possible sample to make a point and while you're at it assume that someone who died was behaving exactly the same way as the guy who was caught because that would be the nice person thing to do.

[James Deuce]

http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/66559542/Motorcyclist-clocked-at-218kmh

"It appears in both cases the riders overestimated their ability..."

I haven't exercised the ignore function in a while. But then seldom have I seen such sarcastic nastiness.

[swbarnett]

the number of members lately harping on about how they should be able to ride as they please without any speed restrictions got my goat a bit.
You do realise that it's been shown time and time again that the removal of speed limits actually leads to a reduction in carnage?


Whenever anyone commented that the members who feel they are the best judge of their competence may not be right, they dismissed the suggestion.
No, an individual rider might not be the best judge of their own "top speed" in any given circumstance. But then again they might be. Who are we to say? The cops sure as hell can't tell at the side of the road.

The real point here is "My body, my decision". And the crap about peripheral harm to one's loved ones doesn't wash either. I know my wife would rather I die horribly doing what I love than live in misery.

[Edbear]

You do realise that it's been shown time and time again that the removal of speed limits actually leads to a reduction in carnage?


No, an individual rider might not be the best judge of their own "top speed" in any given circumstance. But then again they might be. Who are we to say? The cops sure as hell can't tell at the side of the road.

The real point here is "My body, my decision". And the crap about peripheral harm to one's loved ones doesn't wash either. I know my wife would rather I die horribly doing what I love than live in misery.

I would be hesitant to say that would be so in NZ. The standard of driving here is woeful at best!

[rastuscat]

lets just sumarise:

guy travels in excess of 218km/h, and doesn't crash. is stupid enough to stop for police.

guy travels unindentified speed but obviously too fast for his ability/ the conditions, police do nothing to stop/save/avoid crash.


what's the fucking story supposed to be?

talent > no talent.

ed, you're a moron.

Predictable reaction, Azkill.

Now, how exactly is it that we should enforce "guy travels unindentified speed but obviously too fast for his ability/ the conditions"

Maybe when motorcyclists exceed their ability. a light should flash over their heads.

Trouble is, it's not clear that you outridden your ability until the guano hits the fan. Not much value in a flashing light in a ditch.

Great idea, that.

[Edbear]

No it is not nice but nevertheless the truth to point out that someone could die by riding at high speeds, but my view follows on from the police comment in the news article and they would have a far better idea of rider behaviour on big bikes than you as they attend the crashes. You just don't want to grasp the possibility that it could happen to you because you can "Scan" eh!!


Predictable reaction, Azkill.

Now, how exactly is it that we should enforce "guy travels unindentified speed but obviously too fast for his ability/ the conditions"

Maybe when motorcyclists exceed their ability. a light should flash over their heads.

Trouble is, it's not clear that you outridden your ability until the guano hits the fan. Not much value in a flashing light in a ditch.

Great idea, that.

Now there you guys go, getting all logical again..
:rolleyes:

[buggerit]

I did think of that, mate, but the number of members lately harping on about how they should be able to ride as they please without any speed restrictions got my goat a bit.

Whenever anyone commented that the members who feel they are the best judge of their competence may not be right, they dismissed the suggestion.

In almost every case in recent times, it was loss of control at higher speeds behind the accident. Not just the younger, less experienced riders, but also the older ones, both experienced and returning riders. The lesson is that everyone is susceptible to loss of control and we should never overestimate our ability, no matter how long we have been riding.

80hp is plenty enough to get you into trouble and to exceed 200km/h as was the case with my old GSX600F, and the modern 150hp+ bikes are too much for many and catch them out by surprise for the same reason as the modern cars - you don't know how fast you're going. The speedo reading is just a number and drivers/riders are not aware of the physics of the speed they are doing when it comes to a corner or an avoidance maneuver.

Also, the thrill of riding fast all too often outweighs common sense.


I think most riders would prefer to ride the open roads to the conditions than some nice round number that someone in treasury has come up with.

[Edbear]

I think most riders would prefer to ride the open roads to the conditions than some nice round number that someone in treasury has come up with.

Has anyone actually contacted the relevant dept. to find out how and why the speed limit is set?

[buggerit]

Has anyone actually contacted the relevant dept. to find out how and why the speed limit is set?

Its stayed the same for the last 30+ years, so it cant have anything to do with road or car quality.

[swbarnett]

I would be hesitant to say that would be so in NZ. The standard of driving here is woeful at best!
I think one of the truest things I've heard recently is that everyone thinks the driving in their own country is worse than most others. Humans are the same the world over.

I told a local when I was in Adelaide recently that I thought their driving was far better than it is in Auckland. Their opinion was the exact opposite - that Auckland driving is exemplary compared to Adelaide.

Removing the speed limits (or at least raising them to more realistic levels) in any country would have a positive affect - even if that's only relative the to the current situation.

[TheDemonLord]

I remember about a year ago on here a guy posted about a rider who was riding "Fast and Safe" and I replied there was no such thing and boy did I get attacked for my view. There would be many on here who would think no different to the way these riders ride because they can "Scan" for anything bad before it happens.

Orange Street Triple R on Akaroa Highway? (2 January)

If my Memory is correct - you got attacked because there was no video evidence, only the OPs assessment that it was both Fast and Safe, and since only the OP had observed the riding, everything else was pure conjecture.

[TheDemonLord]

You need to put the 2 words together in a general sense and if you look at the police comments in the news item by poster 1 they confirm my opinion to be correct that there is no such thing.

Except they don't

Fast is entirely dependant on situation, environment and a myriad of other factors and dependant on some of those factors depends on whether fast is safe or not. Fast does not necessarily equate to unsafe. if the comment was too fast for the conditions and safe - I would agree. but its not.

[buggerit]

You need to put the 2 words together in a general sense and if you look at the police comments in the news item by poster 1 they confirm my opinion to be correct that there is no such thing.

Maybe when he said "fast and safe "it was in comparison to someone "feebly slow and unsafe" rather than unsafe speeds;)

[swbarnett]

You need to put the 2 words together in a general sense and if you look at the police comments in the news item by poster 1 they confirm my opinion to be correct that there is no such thing.
Tell that to NASA.

[swbarnett]

So were you not aware an Apollo rocket exploded on take off then?
Yes, I was aware. Are you aware of how slow a rocket is just after take-off?

Since you seem to have so much trouble with basic comprehension let me spell it out for you. I was referring to the fact that, for example, the space shuttle had to reach 28,000km/h just to stay in orbit. If there was no such thing as fast and safe every astronaut would be dead after their first mission.

[Voltaire]

I rode 2 up from Ho Chi Minh city to Hanoi last year 2 up on a Honda Fighthawk 150 ( yep 150 cc) and the speed limit there on the open road for motorcycle is 60kmph and 80 kmph for cars.
About 11000 people are killed on the roads there a year.
It gave new meaning to riding to the conditions.

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/rednzep/IMG_1892_zpsb78d9c45.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/rednzep/IMG_1482_zpse098aa4c.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/rednzep/IMG_0218_zpsa25c1eda.jpg

[FJRider]

So you have got the belief from that post that riding fast can be safe just because a poster on here said so? You will come to grief one day if you take such posts as gospel.

Skilled and experienced riders CAN ride fast ... and be be safer than some sanctimonious female riders traveling at (or near) the posted speed limit .... :mad:

[FJRider]

Has anyone actually contacted the relevant dept. to find out how and why the speed limit is set?

If speed limits were set to the safe standard/formula as directed by LTSA ... there would be a REDUCTION in speed limits on some roads ...


Be careful what you wish for ...

[FJRider]

So were you not aware an Apollo rocket exploded on take off then?

As I recall ... the explosion was NOT related to SPEED. Nor was SPEED a factor or relevant in the explosion ... :rolleyes:

[buggerit]

So you have got the belief from that post that riding fast can be safe just because a poster on here said so? You will come to grief one day if you take such posts as gospel.

Re read my post, 60kmh is fast compared to30kmh, and may be appropriate in a 80kmh zone depending on conditions.

[FJRider]

But if they lack scanning ability they could end up dead too as they would not know in advance if a car driver who thought they were as equally skilled came around the bend on their side of the road. It's all in your mind until shit happens eh!

Do NOT judge ALL riders by your own woeful lack of skill, ability ... AND experience ....

What you think is a constant source of amusement to us ... but the humour is wearing thin.

[Dragon]

Quick question

Please don't flame me

If I pulled out onto the wrong side of a stretch of road that is straight and flat for 1km, I have clear visibility and as I have ridden this road in the other direction know that there are no pot holes.

I can see that no trees or foreign objects are on the road and no cars are coming, I happen to be focused on the road and the potential for cars coming towards me, as well as the car next to me that I am passing

Lets say I am on a GSXR 600, if I open the throttle up by the time I pass that car I could be well and truly above the speed limit before I indicate and move back into the correct side of the road

Would you class that as unsafe? or fast and safe

Lets take out the variables of animals running out. the car you are passing speeding up or anything like that and assume the road has a speed limit of 110km

Does anybody see any issue with this logic? Personally I want to be on the wrong side of the road for as short a period of time as possible

And before anybody says I should be content doing the speed limit to pass or the speed limit behind the car I am passing let me say that the car in front might be doing 100km or 90km or 80km

What if the car in front is an older person, a tourist or say a learner driver who is unable to drive to the conditions or just looking at the scenery

Is it not safer for a rider to be in front of the traffic? or away from someone who is driving unpredictably

I have no issue with speed limits being enforced however what I hate is the fact that no discretion is used anymore

But hey I am instantly going to die if I do 111km right?

Sorry for the minor rant

[buggerit]

Quick question

Please don't flame me

If I pulled out onto the wrong side of a stretch of road that is straight and flat for 1km, I have clear visibility and as I have ridden this road in the other direction know that there are no pot holes.

I can see that no trees or foreign objects are on the road and no cars are coming, I happen to be focused on the road and the potential for cars coming towards me, as well as the car next to me that I am passing

Lets say I am on a GSXR 600, if I open the throttle up by the time I pass that car I could be well and truly above the speed limit before I indicate and move back into the correct side of the road

Would you class that as unsafe? or fast and safe

Lets take out the variables of animals running out. the car you are passing speeding up or anything like that and assume the road has a speed limit of 110km

Does anybody see any issue with this logic? Personally I want to be on the wrong side of the road for as short a period of time as possible

And before anybody says I should be content doing the speed limit to pass or the speed limit behind the car I am passing let me say that the car in front might be doing 100km or 90km or 80km

What if the car in front is an older person, a tourist or say a learner driver who is unable to drive to the conditions or just looking at the scenery

Is it not safer for a rider to be in front of the traffic? or away from someone who is driving unpredictably

I have no issue with speed limits being enforced however what I hate is the fact that no discretion is used anymore

But hey I am instantly going to die if I do 111km right?

Sorry for the minor rant

What you have not mentioned, that may catch you out at any speed, is vehicles pulling out from side roads or drive ways
or the vehicle you are following making an unindicated right turn.

[Tazz]

What you have not mentioned, that may catch you out at any speed, is vehicles pulling out from side roads or drive ways
or the vehicle you are following making an unindicated right turn.

Hooking a right turn at 100kph+ kph!? Fuck you must be some kind of driver :clap:

[FJRider]

So riders who ride faster than the speed limit are more skilled than those who do by your logic. I bet those riders the news item said died thought they were just as skilled as you prior to shit happening for them. I also occasionally exceed the speed limit like you do too but unlike you know there is a greater chance of dying if shit happens.

Not ALL ... merely SOME. Skilled and experienced riders are aware when "Shit Happening" moments/incidents can occur. At such times ... they DO slow ...


Any rider not riding to possible results of "Shit Happening" on their rides ARE few (those few are idiots and are neither skilled or experienced) Any result of such riding actions ... are on THEIR head.


Only idiots think otherwise ...


ps: please a pic of your (possibly) epic boobs ... I'm curious ...

[swbarnett]

So riders who ride faster than the speed limit are more skilled than those who do by your logic.
God you really are thick.

What he said was:


Skilled and experienced riders CAN ride fast ... and be be safer than some sanctimonious female riders traveling at (or near) the posted speed limit ....

To spell it out for the mentally challenged - This does NOT mean that just because you are riding faster you are safer. Just that some riders are safer at 50kph over the speed limit than some others at the speed limit given the same circumstances.

[swbarnett]

Please don't flame me
No flame necessary. You are right. It's called the TED principle - Time Exposed to Danger. Within reason (as you say) the faster you overtake the better. Hence minimizing the TED.

[FJRider]

So wise guy at what level has your skill level been set at and by what authority? Or maybe your skill level has only been set by yourself eh?

My EXPERIENCE is (obviously) greater than yours ... :yes:

Skill level is (obviously) greater than yours. :yes:

BUT ... my own self preservation instincts ... restrict my time spent over the posted speed limit. :yes:


STILL ... awaiting pic's of (possibly) epic boobs ... soon is good ... :yes:

[Akzle]

"he was bright enough" to realize if I don't stop I will very likely die. Even car drivers die trying to outrun police did you know.
i did know!
but funnily enough, enough cop cars end up upside down because cops run out of talent too,
and five buck and a bag of chips (and like, negative eight traffic infringements) says i'm a better motorist than all the cops in the district.
:yes:


Now, how exactly is it that we should enforce "guy travels unindentified speed but obviously too fast for his ability/ the conditions"
you shouldn't. it's not your problem. I don't know how i can be any clearer about this. so i;ll type in capitals

IF I'M NOT FUCKING UP ANYONE ELSES DAY, TITS OR GTFO.

GO FIND THE SHIT THAT'S GOT ROBBED OFF ME AND GIVE THE LITTLE BLACK CUNTS A FUCKING HIDING.

or, to put it another way

DO SOMETHING USEFUL FOR ONCE IN YOUR MISERABLE FUCKING EXISTENCE


You need to put the 2 words together in a general sense and if you look at the police comments in the news item by poster 1 they confirm my opinion to be correct that there is no such thing.
highlighted the relevant bits.

proves you're stupid.

Except they don't

Fast is entirely dependant on situation, environment and a myriad of other factors and dependant on some of those factors depends on whether fast is safe or not. Fast does not necessarily equate to unsafe. if the comment was too fast for the conditions and safe - I would agree. but its not.
rbjiafp

As I recall ... the explosion was NOT related to SPEED. Nor was SPEED a factor or relevant in the explosion ... :rolleyes:
no, rather a leaking oxygen seal. damn engineers - we should fine them all! or some shit.


Do NOT judge ALL riders by your own woeful lack of skill, ability ... AND experience ....

What you think is a constant source of amusement to us ... but the humour is wearing thin.
rbjiafp


But hey I am instantly going to die if I do 111km right?
no they've moved the (arbitrary) limit cuz. 101km/h and you'll die now. true facts oi.


So riders who ride faster than the speed limit are more skilled than those who do by your logic. I bet those riders the news item said died thought they were just as skilled as you prior to shit happening for them. I also occasionally exceed the speed limit like you do too but unlike you know there is a greater chance of dying if shit happens.
you don't seem to have a grasp of any kind of "logic", so please refrain from using the word.

you have a greater chance of dying, whatever you're doing, because you're fucking stupid.

unfortunately, you probably wont, but rather, fuck someone elses day (or dog) up.

Hooking a right turn at 100kph+ kph!? Fuck you must be some kind of driver :clap:

rbjiafp!

[Voltaire]

So wise guy at what level has your skill level been set at and by what authority? Or maybe your skill level has only been set by yourself eh?

He has 10 000 more riding posts :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[FJRider]

have no issue with speed limits being enforced however what I hate is the fact that no discretion is used anymore

Police discretion in not one of the human rights NZ police subscribe to. Discretion is ENTIRELY up to the Police officer at the scene ... at the time.

[ducatilover]

So were you not aware an Apollo rocket exploded on take off then?

Correlation is not causation.
Plenty of people die by not going fast.

[Mike.Gayner]

The world will be a better place the day cassina is struck by an oncoming truck at or below the speed limit.

[Akzle]

Correlation is not causation.
Plenty of people die by not going fast.

80% in fact.

a clear majority. kill themselves or someone else...
below the posted speed limit


(statistically i'm safer 'speeding')

[awayatc]

List of annoyances......

ending a sentence in a post with a ?
ending a sentence in a post with "eh ?"
Saying the same things again in every post, in every thread, every day....
starting a post with "cassina"

Even worse would be to have to endure her in real life.....
just the thought of it....:crazy:

[cs363]

List of annoyances......

ending a sentence in a post with a ?
ending a sentence in a post with "eh ?"
Saying the same things again in every post, in every thread, every day....
starting a post with "cassina"
cassina starting a thread
cassina posting

Even worse would be to have to endure her in real life.....
just the thought of it....:crazy:


Missed a couple there.

Fixed it for you.

[scumdog]

i did know!
but funnily enough, enough cop cars end up upside down because cops run out of talent too,
and five buck and a bag of chips (and like, negative eight traffic infringements) says i'm a better motorist than all the cops in the district.
:yes:

you shouldn't. it's not your problem. I don't know how i can be any clearer about this. so i;ll type in capitals

IF I'M NOT FUCKING UP ANYONE ELSES DAY, TITS OR GTFO.

GO FIND THE SHIT THAT'S GOT ROBBED OFF ME AND GIVE THE LITTLE BLACK CUNTS A FUCKING HIDING.

or, to put it another way

DO SOMETHING USEFUL FOR ONCE IN YOUR MISERABLE FUCKING EXISTENCE


highlighted the relevant bits.

proves you're stupid.

rbjiafp

no, rather a leaking oxygen seal. damn engineers - we should fine them all! or some shit.


rbjiafp

no they've moved the (arbitrary) limit cuz. 101km/h and you'll die now. true facts oi.


you don't seem to have a grasp of any kind of "logic", so please refrain from using the word.

you have a greater chance of dying, whatever you're doing, because you're fucking stupid.

unfortunately, you probably wont, but rather, fuck someone elses day (or dog) up.


rbjiafp!

A long time since I've seen such a large amount of screen diarrhea....:oi-grr:

[Akzle]

A long time since I've seen such a large amount of screen diarrhea....:oi-grr:

really?
you've clicked "submit reply" on about 13, 600...

[Luckylegs]

Seriously, in a thread containing multiple posts from the stupidest person in the entire south island and you call ax out?

God forbid you think she's right or makes sense

A long time since I've seen such a large amount of screen diarrhea....:oi-grr:

[ducatilover]

80% in fact.

a clear majority. kill themselves or someone else...
below the posted speed limit


(statistically i'm safer 'speeding')

I'll believe it because it came from your e-mouth.
I'm out, got some speeding to do

[Berries]

If I pulled out onto the wrong side of a stretch of road that is straight and flat for 1km, I have clear visibility and as I have ridden this road in the other direction know that there are no pot holes.

I can see that no trees or foreign objects are on the road and no cars are coming, I happen to be focused on the road and the potential for cars coming towards me, as well as the car next to me that I am passing

Lets say I am on a GSXR 600, if I open the throttle up by the time I pass that car I could be well and truly above the speed limit before I indicate and move back into the correct side of the road

Would you class that as unsafe? or fast and safe

Lets take out the variables of animals running out. the car you are passing speeding up or anything like that and assume the road has a speed limit of 110km

Does anybody see any issue with this logic? Personally I want to be on the wrong side of the road for as short a period of time as possible

And before anybody says I should be content doing the speed limit to pass or the speed limit behind the car I am passing let me say that the car in front might be doing 100km or 90km or 80km

What if the car in front is an older person, a tourist or say a learner driver who is unable to drive to the conditions or just looking at the scenery

Is it not safer for a rider to be in front of the traffic? or away from someone who is driving unpredictably

I have no issue with speed limits being enforced however what I hate is the fact that no discretion is used anymore

But hey I am instantly going to die if I do 111km right?
Do you mean per hour or is your bike on a Speed IV distance timer?

You are on a bike, supposedly seeing as this is KB, but you never know anymore given this thread. Being on a bike all of the above is void. The whole point about a bike is to overtake at warp factor 15 whenever you want. A GSXR600 and you are worried about overtaking someone doing 80km/h on a 1km straight? You want a CB750 you do, or an MX5.

[pritch]

Maybe when motorcyclists exceed their ability. a light should flash over their heads.

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Why not? It works for you. :devil2: