Painting rims, advice needed please

[biketimus_prime]

Hi all,

I want to paint my rims in gold. I would rather do paint than powdercoating to save me taking the bearings out, removing tyres etc.

Can someone recommend me a place that does a good paint that will not chip? I hear 2K or something like that is the best. Where do you guys go?

Any tips from those who have done it in the past?

Thank you in advance

[bogan]

Why not just get a rattle can on do it on the bike, save you removing the wheels even :facepalm:

Do the job properly and take tyres off and bearings out.

[biketimus_prime]

Why not just get a rattle can on do it on the bike, save you removing the wheels even :facepalm:

Do the job properly and take tyres off and bearings out.

I've seen some good jobs with paint and I figured if I got a good enamel paint and prepped it well it'd do the trick. Like the stuff they use on brake calipers but was hoping for some better stuff than that.

[bogan]

I've seen some good jobs with paint and I figured if I got a good enamel paint and prepped it well it'd do the trick. Like the stuff they use on brake calipers but was hoping for some better stuff than that.

Not saying you can't do a good job with paint, just that doing a good job with the tyre still on it is going to be tricky.

[scumdog]

First give the rims a good wipe with Prepsol

Then a good rub-down with Scotchbrite.

Then another wipe down with Prepsol

Then a blast of etch-primer followed by the colour of your choice.

I find flouro-pink adds a touch of staunchness to a mans scoot...;)

[Murray]

First give the rims a good wipe with Prepsol

Then a good rub-down with Scotchbrite.

Then another wipe down with Prepsol

Then a blast of etch-primer followed by the colour of your choice.

I find flouro-pink adds a touch of staunchness to a mans scoot...;)

Where do you get prepsol. Im looking at doing something similar

Flouro - pink is that like a bright pig colour???

[JimO]

anywhere that sells car paint should sell prepsol

[mossy1200]

I just did mine.

Took the bearings out and bought new bearings. Took tires off (made my own bead breaker because I am cheap) and bought new tires.
Gave wheels to powder coaters. $250

They looks like they have been done professionally now.

[AllanB]

Search for paint supply companies in your City. In CHCH you can have any colour car paint mixed into a quality aerosol can.

If you prep the surface well and take care you can get a very good, durable job.

Side note - I repainted my sons scooter with this paint - it's had a couple years scooter type abuse since and holding up very well.

Tip for rattle can painting - temperature is important to get a top job. The surface temp of the object being painted and the can temp. The cans are easy to heat up in a bucket of warm water.


You want a decent paint for wheels as you will be frequently cleaning off brake dust from the front and chain oil from the rear with gold wheels.

[skippa1]

If you paint the rims with the tyres on, you will get the paint job you deserve

[bogan]

They looks like they have been done professionally now.

Until you showed us the pics...


ruuuffff kahhhhnt



Although the theory is sound, couldn't you just repurpose an engine hoist like the rest of us?
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I used one like that as the angle the two lowers poke out at is excellent for poking a brake disc or whatever through (obv not an issue for repainting), and you just replace the lift ram with a long steel bar; you can even use the bolt instead of some thudfuckerous drill bit :bleh:

[mossy1200]

ruuuffff kahhhhnt




At least I didn't drive over the tire with the van to break the bead. Was tempted to try it though.

[nzspokes]

Search for paint supply companies in your City. In CHCH you can have any colour car paint mixed into a quality aerosol can.

If you prep the surface well and take care you can get a very good, durable job.

Side note - I repainted my sons scooter with this paint - it's had a couple years scooter type abuse since and holding up very well.

Tip for rattle can painting - temperature is important to get a top job. The surface temp of the object being painted and the can temp. The cans are easy to heat up in a bucket of warm water.


You want a decent paint for wheels as you will be frequently cleaning off brake dust from the front and chain oil from the rear with gold wheels.

I to want gold wheels and have been slowly looking into it. I hadnt thought of rattle canning it as I suck at painting. Not a bad idea though.

[biketimus_prime]

I went and had a look, even if I leave the tyres on I can mask around the rim so closely that it'll paint even the outermost edge. I'm still having an internal debate as to whether to just say fuck it and get it all powdercoated but I just feel like I could paint it and get it to come out really well that way. I've rattle canned car wheels before and other things but you just need to be very patient and do thin coats so it doesn't run and ruin everything.

Would you clearcoat an enamel paintjob?

[AllanB]

I to want gold wheels and have been slowly looking into it. I hadnt thought of rattle canning it as I suck at painting. Not a bad idea though.

Quality cans (car paint) and good prep are key. Plus light coats of paint - better to do 4 - 5 light coats that two heavy ones full of runs of paint!

[nodrog]

I went and had a look, even if I leave the tyres on I can mask around the rim so closely that it'll paint even the outermost edge. I'm still having an internal debate as to whether to just say fuck it and get it all powdercoated but I just feel like I could paint it and get it to come out really well that way. I've rattle canned car wheels before and other things but you just need to be very patient and do thin coats so it doesn't run and ruin everything.

Would you clearcoat an enamel paintjob?

Are you in south Auckland?

[mossy1200]

Lets say you paint them yourself.

5 cans of White Knight enamel is $95.00
Sandpaper and cleaning gear $10.00

Powdercoat $250.00 and bearings $50.00

I would guess 2k in paint oven at paint shop if you do most prep will cost $250 plus bearings.


Option one, assuming you take tire off will work and depending on prep, skill and baking under heat lamps would be ok.

Option two or three will look best and last longest.

You just need decide if your skilled enough and if its a forever bike or a tidy up and flog off bike.
Idd spend the cash if you want to keep the bike.

[bogan]

Powdercoat $250.00 and bearings $50.00

Shit, they saw you coming :whistle:

Get mine for about half that :D

[ducatilover]

A mate of mine got his rims powder coated in Hastings for 60 bung a wheel if I recall correctly.

Just polish the cunts, because you can ignore the stone chips better then.

[Latte]

If you do choose to go ahead with it, use playing cards jammed between the tire and rim all the way round, very accurate masking job. Much better than you can do with tape etc. Then masking tape and newspaper over the top.

[scumdog]

If you decide to do it without taking the tyres off the rim try this:

Get some Lux-Liquid (or any dishwashing liquid and make up about 250ml mixture of 60%Lux Liquid and 40%water.

Get the rim lying on its side and pretty much level, propped up on thre bit of 4"X 2".

Use a fine bristle paint-bruch to brush on the Lux-Liquid mix onto the tyre VERY carefully so as not to get it onto the rim and BEFORE it drys out do the following with your paint:

'Spray and walk away' and when the paint feels hard and dry use a soft nail-brush to scrub the tyre where the overspray is, it will all come off and leave the tyre nice and black if you did things right.:woohoo::niceone:

Turn rim over and repeat.

[ducatilover]

If you decide to do it without taking the tyres off the rim try this:

Get some Lux-Liquid (or any dishwashing liquid and make up about 250ml mixture of 60%Lux Liquid and 40%water.

Get the rim lying on its side and pretty much level, propped up on thre bit of 4"X 2".

Use a fine bristle paint-bruch to brush on the Lux-Liquid mix onto the tyre VERY carefully so as not to get it onto the rim and BEFORE it drys out do the following with your paint:

'Spray and walk away' and when the paint feels hard and dry use a soft nail-brush to scrub the tyre where the overspray is, it will all come off and leave the tyre nice and black if you did things right.:woohoo::niceone:

Turn rim over and repeat. You could probably do that with anything that works as a release agent? So wax, or the missus' face scrub shit

[biketimus_prime]

Thanks for all your advice everyone. I plan to mask off the entire tyre if I leave it on. I forgot playing cards could work well in between the gaps. Thanks for the idea!

[scumdog]

Thanks for all your advice everyone. I plan to mask off the entire tyre if I leave it on. I forgot playing cards could work well in between the gaps. Thanks for the idea!


I've used the Lux-Liquid idea heaps and it works and is easy to apply, clean up etc so don't dismiss it.:niceone:

[AllanB]

The thing I do not like about powder coat on wheels is when it chips it tends to allow the chipped area to 'grow' . And it is a shit to change later as effectively needs to be removed. 'car paint' for want of a better term is the same as your factory wheels and can be touched up or re sprayed fairly easily. Bearings can remain in as there is no heat applied. If being painted by a spray shop the heat they often use to cure is not that high.

[bogan]

If you decide to do it without taking the tyres off the rim try this:

Get some Lux-Liquid (or any dishwashing liquid and make up about 250ml mixture of 60%Lux Liquid and 40%water.

Get the rim lying on its side and pretty much level, propped up on thre bit of 4"X 2".

Use a fine bristle paint-bruch to brush on the Lux-Liquid mix onto the tyre VERY carefully so as not to get it onto the rim and BEFORE it drys out do the following with your paint:

'Spray and walk away' and when the paint feels hard and dry use a soft nail-brush to scrub the tyre where the overspray is, it will all come off and leave the tyre nice and black if you did things right.:woohoo::niceone:

Turn rim over and repeat.

Sounds like a lot of work, why not just use black paint?

[scumdog]

Sounds like a lot of work, why not just use black paint?


OK. I'll bite - 'cos it fuckin' flakes off AND you still have to paint it on??

[bogan]

OK. I'll bite - 'cos it fuckin' flakes off AND you still have to paint it on??

So, shits all black there nobody will notice.

Or, on the other hand, you could just do the fucking job properly :whistle:

[scumdog]

So, shits all black there nobody will notice.

Or, on the other hand, you could just do the fucking job properly :whistle:

You've never used the Lux-Liquid method, have you??<_<

[bogan]

You've never used the Lux-Liquid method, have you??<_<

Fuck no.

Just like I've never rattle can'd my rims and tyre black either.

[biketimus_prime]

I would have thought a good enamel paint will stand up to abuse just as much as powdercoating. As mentioned above, you can even touch up paint over again if they do chip.

[ducatilover]

Fuck no.

Just like I've never rattle can'd my rims and tyre black either.

Your frame would look pretty swish in matt black. :devil2:

[scumdog]

Fuck no.

Just like I've never rattle can'd my rims and tyre black either.

You're not really the adventurous type, are you??

[John_H]

I just did mine.

Took the bearings out and bought new bearings. Took tires off (made my own bead breaker because I am cheap) and bought new tires.
Gave wheels to powder coaters. $250

They looks like they have been done professionally now.

I use a spade as a bead breaker!

[bogan]

You're not really the adventurous type, are you??

Thudfuckery is an adventure in the same way that a morning shit is a piece of artwork.

[Akzle]

If being painted by a spray shop the heat they often use to cure is not that high.

fifty degrees celsius.

fact of the day.

use the oven, if the missus is out. on "warm". preheat your shit. heat lamp / bake it only if 2 pot (use 20% less hardener), for rattlecans: no.

[Owl]

fifty degrees celsius.

fact of the day.

Wrong!:facepalm:

Oh and as a painter, take the fucking tyres off. This is not the 1980's.

[John_H]

I would have thought a good enamel paint will stand up to abuse just as much as powdercoating. As mentioned above, you can even touch up paint over again if they do chip.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think powdercoat is far tougher and more durable than paint.

[Akzle]

Wrong!:facepalm:

Oh and as a painter, take the fucking tyres off. This is not the 1980's.

enlighten me

[Maha]

enlighten me

An impossible task, wouldn't you agree?

[Owl]

enlighten me

Generally 60℃

[Grubber]

Wrong!:facepalm:

Oh and as a painter, take the fucking tyres off. This is not the 1980's.

I agree, do the job right and it will last forever. Don't cut corners.:crazy:

I'm with Bogan, get a touch up spray gun and compressor. sand it down and paint with 2k. Light coat first one and heavy 2nd is all you need with the new paints these days.

You will find a million uses for the compressor later by the way.:calm:

[Akzle]

Generally 60℃

are you talking in general or for rims specifically?

gunnee havv tae turn me ooven up nekk time!

[Owl]

are you talking in general or for rims specifically?

gunnee havv tae turn me ooven up nekk time!

In general (cars etc). Fibreglass products would be lower though best to avoid baking. Rims I'd bake higher than 60℃ if possible.

[Akzle]

In general (cars etc). Fibreglass products would be lower though best to avoid baking. Rims I'd bake higher than 60℃ if possible.

preheating. Not baking.
Meh. Ill try it one time.

[scumdog]

Thudfuckery is an adventure in the same way that a morning shit is a piece of artwork.

YOU call it thudfuckery.

I call it finesse:bleh:

[bogan]

YOU call it thudfuckery.

I call it finesse:bleh:

I rest my case :banana:

[vifferman]

Just polish the cunts, because you can ignore the stone chips better then.
That's not a bad idea. I did that to my VFR750 a few years ago. The rims were white :crazy: so showed every bit of dirt and chain spooge. A tin of paintstripper, roll of masking tape, some metal polish, and a bucket of elbowgrease, and the bike was transformed. Despite the naysayers ("Neeeeiighhhhhh!!!), the wheels were much easier to keep clean. I'm very tempted to do the same with the 800; it has silver painted wheels, but polished wheels would be better. Either that or I'll pay some bloke to paint them gold. (As a matter of fact, I *do* have more money than sense).:wacko:

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=180295&d=1252783241
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=180296&d=1252783241

[speights_bud]

Youtube "Plasti Dip Rims", this stuff looks highly addictive, and surprisingly lots of people are using it with success.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/139765-Plasti-Dip

It is also available in different colors, you might just have to order some in...

[biketimus_prime]

Nah plastidip is cool for about 2 weekends. If you have it on something like wheels especially, it turns to shit fast. The bring orange/green/whatever you have it painted turns to a shit darkened colour eventually as it catches all the dirt and you can't scrub it or anything.

[speights_bud]

Good point. Getting chain scum off rims would suck...